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morning edition
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mornin
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crayon pop
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Missing my gf lads.
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NIGE
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sophie
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>get up early
>too cold
>nothing to do
>just want to go back to bed
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are we just making new threads on page 4 now, is that it? are we throwing reason to the wind and embracing chaos, are we?
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Why has top level cooking become like modern art lads?

As in, it's shit, everyone knows it's shit, but everyone crowds around it and hails it as fantastic because they've been TOLD to hail it as fantastic and they don't want to lose the respect of their peers?

I was watching Master Chef the other say and they went to a top mitchelin star restaurant in Italy and the food they were serving was like £100 a plate and honestly looked shit. It was all tiny portions and they seemed to spend more time on making it look pretty.
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wōdlīce, adv: madly, furiously, franticly; blasphemously. (“wohd-lee-cheh”)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382294/Nigel-Farage-s-car-wheels-sabotaged-assassination-attempt-Ukip-leader-lost-control-Volvo-wheel-fell-motorway-police-confirm-foul-play.html

Our Nige edition
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Corbyn crashing the Tory-Lite plane with no survivors
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>>53121409
normies out
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>>53121429
Chaos is a ladder
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>>53121412
>i think modern art is shit

wow, edgy and original opinion there
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Why has top level cooking become like modern art lads?

As in, it's shit, everyone knows it's shit, but everyone crowds around it and hails it as fantastic because they've been TOLD to hail it as fantastic and they don't want to lose the respect of their peers?

I was watching Master Chef the other say and they went to a top mitchelin star restaurant in Italy and the food they were serving was like £100 a plate and honestly looked shit. It was all tiny portions and they seemed to spend more time on making it look pretty.
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Doing a laff
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going to end this boring tinder conversation and ask this girl to get a drink with me out of the blue
wish me luck lads
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lads, might buy this house, what you think?

http://www.domain.com.au/149-wellington-street-mosman-park-wa-6012-2011843547
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Why has top level cooking become like modern art lads?

As in, it's shit, everyone knows it's shit, but everyone crowds around it and hails it as fantastic because they've been TOLD to hail it as fantastic and they don't want to lose the respect of their peers?

I was watching Master Chef the other say and they went to a top mitchelin star restaurant in Italy and the food they were serving was like £100 a plate and honestly looked shit. It was all tiny portions and they seemed to spend more time on making it look pretty.
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>>53121448
What
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>>53121448
>Corbyn crashing the labour party

Fixed.

They're literally unelectable
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Do you think there is any artistic merit to this photo, or is it just a load of shite?
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>>53121443
I ate at one of the most exclusive restaurants in the state the other week and I was fuller after a big mac meal than this 5 course meal. the main was literally 3 pieces of chicken about the size of a coin
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Why has top level cooking become like modern art lads?

As in, it's shit, everyone knows it's shit, but everyone crowds around it and hails it as fantastic because they've been TOLD to hail it as fantastic and they don't want to lose the respect of their peers?

I was watching Master Chef the other say and they went to a top mitchelin star restaurant in Italy and the food they were serving was like £100 a plate and honestly looked shit. It was all tiny portions and they seemed to spend more time on making it look pretty.
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>Why has top level cooking become like modern art lads?

>As in, it's shit, everyone knows it's shit, but everyone crowds around it and hails it as fantastic because they've been TOLD to hail it as fantastic and they don't want to lose the respect of their peers?

>I was watching Master Chef the other say and they went to a top mitchelin star restaurant in Italy and the food they were serving was like £100 a plate and honestly looked shit. It was all tiny portions and they seemed to spend more time on making it look pretty.
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>>53121443
don't forget that if you eat meat then you're objectively a bad person
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>>53121494
pretty shite désú
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Hello! Post local autists!
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>>53121456
Are you implying that modern art isn't shit?
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>>53121464
virus don't click
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>if you eat meat then you're objectively a bad person
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>>53121496
I had a 5 course meal in Japan last week for the equivalent of 6 pound. Filled me up tbqh
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>>53121475
still waiting on that luck lads...
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>>53121490
They are not going to be on the 2020 ballot?!?

Fucking hell, someone tell the papers NOW
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>>53121529
no, that's you! you do these things!
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>>53121384
Buy one half as big and get a helipad for the rest of the money.
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>oh look at that big FAT arse you big fat shite
>don't you dare wipe your fanny on my towel
kek
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>>53121512
all of it? every last piece? that's a ridiculous thing to say
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6840134/Mum-36-had-threesome-sex-with-boy-15-and-his-young-pal.html
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>I think modern art is shit
>no I don't regularly go to art galleries
>no I down actually take much interest in the art world
>please take my opinion seriously
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>>53121494
probably overexposed now
It does have a certain aesthetic
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>>53121560
I've not seen a good piece of modern art yet.
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>>53121512
Yes

It's okay, it's not for you, and you don't have to like it.
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mum opened a bag of cashews upside down today

might kill her tonight
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>the labour party is literally unelectable
>I for one will be giving my vote to the UK independence party
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>>53121581
You should watch the moaning of life ep about modern art
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>>53121475
>>53121537
SOMEONE WISH ME LUCK
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>mum opened a bag of cashews upside down today
>might kill her tonight
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Hang the nonces, shoot the Muslims
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>>53121443
I guess everything needs an elevated form, something pretentious. I wouldn't pay 100 bucks for a plate of food just for the looks.
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>>53121591
Please tell me who the Labour Party actually represent
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>>53121563
>painting with period blood
>just throwing paint at a canvas
>art
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>>53121615
>Muh 99%
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>Dugher claims he was sacked for criticising Corbyn's aides

Homophobic prick got sacked. GOOD job Jez.
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where's that wasteman from the other thread with the REM alarm clock, I want to know which one he's got
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>the UK Independence Party is literally unelectable
>I for one will be giving my vote to the Labour Party
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>>53121605
good luck la is this pris or summin else
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yo
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>Labour supporters now think it's 'tory-lite' to win elections
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>>53121563
>Appeal to authority

>>53121582
So this is good art?
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>>53121618
it's supposed to be about the emotions that the artist was experiencing when they did it or some convoluted bollocks
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>>53121633
Good post
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>>53121615
Hard working families unlike the tories who represent the bankers and the bonuses and UKIP who represent old people who get triggered when they see a black person
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>the politics politics politics is politics politics
>I for politics will be politics my politics to the politics politics
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>>53121641
it's just an android app called "sleepclock", sorry m8

You set a time, put your tablet/phone on your bed and it tracks your movement, and wakes you up in between 30 minutes before your alarm to your alarm when you're moving most.
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>>53121600
The part with the Chinese "artist" pissed me off a bit desu.

>punches a piece of paper with a boxing glove with paint on it a few times
>sells it for a lot of money
>practically admitted he does it because he knows idiots will buy it
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*does a poo*

stinky xD
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>>53121652
The word "art" doesn't indicate value

I don't think Snow Patrol is good music but it's still music
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>>53121652
I can understand that art piece, is a frozen a time in her life. Sure it isn't talented like a realistic painting but it has some meaning.
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>Why yes, I'm very interested in politics
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>>53121673
>and wakes you up in between 30 minutes before your alarm to your alarm when you're moving mos

eh?

but okay senpai, nice one. How does it know when you're moving? do you have to lay it on you or something?
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>labour supporters believe they can win a general election under jezbollah
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>>53121690
>It has some meaning

So does a piece of shit on the floor but is it good art?
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>>53121665
>labour support hard working families by importing hundreds of thousands of third world immigrants into their communities and lowering wages, as well as raping thousands of their young girls over decades of grooming gangs

http://youtu.be/IKf8d4Y-NlM
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don't you love it when the protagonist has an American accent while everyone has a British accent
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>>53121711
thats entirely subjective
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>>53121691
you can't win with these fedora fucks
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>>53121714
sigh, not interested in talking to racists thanks
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>>53121682
I didn't say modern art isn't art I said modern art is shit.

And you seem to be agreeing with me.
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>>53121720

name 5 films where this happens
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>>53121674
But they looked so innocent and sweet.Also have a feeling they may have been japanese
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>you can't win with these fedora fucks
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>>53121737
*IGNORE THE FACTS IGNORE THE FACTS VOTES LABOUR COZ ME MUM ALWAYS HAS*

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/628640/Bank-of-England-migration-down-wages
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>>53121720
ngl it pissed me off in the Witcher
American accents are just jarring in medieval fantasy settings, it should be illegal
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Art used to be something to cherish

Now literally anything could be art

This post is art.
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>Diane Abbott could be in line for shadow defence secretary
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>>53121711
It's for the people who look at it to decide, I love Bob Dylan's music even though his singing isn't very traditionally talented with him hitting high notes or what ever and some people hate it. If you told me I shouldn't like it because his guitar playing and singing isn't "technical" or whatever I'd tell you to fuck off.
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quality of art is entirely subjective
declaring the entirety of a certain body of art to be unanimously shit is narrowminded
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>I vote
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>>53121762
>durr even though the bankers the bonuses are wrecking the country I'm going to blame poor innocent immigrants because they're brown and I hate brown people
that's you
that's what you sound like
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IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU'RE THE EEEHHHKKSPUURT MARK
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>>53121747
Is this shit?
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>>53121774
that the one jez banged?
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>the south is whi--
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>>53121764
>when Triss Merrygold starts talking
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>>53121781
>quality of art is entirely subjective
>declaring the entirety of a certain body of art to be unanimously shit is narrowminded
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>>53121702
Not exactly sure desu la, but it makes my mornings a lot easier
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>>53121800
The fact an image like this needs to exist is just sad ;_;
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>>53121798
Yes
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>>53121791
Did I say I hate mass immigration because of their skin colour? I hate them because they drive down wages and standard of living

>muh bankers muh bankers
Russell Brand gtfo
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>>53121791
>>53121800
>>53121774
>>53121762
>>53121737
>>53121714
>>53121708
give it a rest you melts
just tuck your keyboard into bed and give it a rest
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been getting a lot of matches lately lads
haven't changed anything about my profile either hmmmmm
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>>53121800
>glorious west country untainted
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>>53121748
playing witcher 3 atm
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>>53121793
That's not modern art
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>>53121848
Yes it is.
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>>53121800
What's that black bit in Scotland
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>>53121848
The Scream (Norwegian: Skrik) is the popular name given to each of four versions of a composition, created as both paintings and pastels, by the Expressionist artist Edvard Munch between 1893 and 1910. Der Schrei der Natur (The Scream of Nature) is the title Munch gave to these works, all of which show a figure with an agonized expression against a landscape with a tumultuous orange sky. Arthur Lubow has described The Scream as "an icon of modern art, a Mona Lisa for our time."[1]
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>>53121838
I can read between the lines, adolf
stay in denial
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>>53121800
Holy shit, there are blacks lining the shape of our country. We are trapped
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>>53121835
>the labour party of the United Kingdom
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Did a modern art lads
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>>53121838
Wages rose faster than ever during the 00s and late 90s
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>>53121867
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>>53121851
>Painted over 100 years ago
>MODERN art

Modern art is stuff like leftists smearing period blood on a canvas or throwing glass all over a room and calling it art.
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>Diane Abbott could be in line for shadow defence secretary

RIP the Labour party
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why does SETI have a twitter account?

literally the only thing they should tweet about is "we found aliens/evidence of aliens" and that never happens
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>>53121886
just let the racist loon tire himself out and realise it's not the 1950s any more
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>>53121886
You aren't actually trying to reason with him are you?
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>>53121906
no it isn't you fucking spastic
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>>53121793
The only piece of art I really like desu
It's hard to explain why I like it, it just makes me feel.
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>>53121910
if diane abbott is defence secretary, who will defend us from diane abbott?
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>>53121886
Because a minimum wage was introduced
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tired of edge lords criticizing Jeremy Corbyn desu
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>>53121906
Modern art includes artistic works produced during the period extending roughly from the 1860s to the 1970s, and denotes the style and philosophy of the art produced during that era.[1] The term is usually associated with art in which the traditions of the past have been thrown aside in a spirit of experimentation.[2] Modern artists experimented with new ways of seeing and with fresh ideas about the nature of materials and functions of art. A tendency away from the narrative, which was characteristic for the traditional arts, toward abstraction is characteristic of much modern art. More recent artistic production is often called Contemporary art or Postmodern art.
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>>53121906
t. uneducated plebeian who thinks degeneracy started in the 60s
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>>53121906
You're confusing modern, contemporary and post-modern.

>inb4 hurr durr interchangeable
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Lads
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Here is a real art lads
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>>53121987
more like a real fart haha
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>>53121933
This is what I got when I googled "modern art"

Must be 2deep4me
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>>53121982
but there interchangeable
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>>53121886
Nothing to do with the effects of the internet, nope. Nor European/American growth rates.
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@53122003
absolute aphid
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>>53121906
>thinks he can pass judgment on all modern art
>doesn't even know what 'modern' means
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Best Party to Handle Immigration:
Con: 24%
Lab: 15%
UKIP: 29%

Voting Intention:
Con: 39%
Lab: 29%
UKIP: 17%

FIRE IS RISING
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>>53121943
mate if you're gonna be racist don't be so obvious about it :/
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>>53121987
post Napoleonic art you cunt
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>>53121954
That's not why
That's just completely wrong
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>>53121987
oh wow you paint what you see
how insightful and interesting
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>>53122004
maybe you should have at least read the wikipedia article
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The Bank of England literally said that immigration lowers wages

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12063052/Mass-migration-driving-down-wages-offered-to-British-jobseekers.html
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this is modern art
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>>53121983
>cereal and kit kats
Basic bitch
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>>53122004
>No, your badly painted vagina does not represent the plight of middle eastern dirt farmers, it represents a fucking vagina. And not even well.
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>>53122004
you're supposed to project your own feelings onto the canvas you fucking uncultured swine
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>REAL ART are paintings commissioned by the super rich to show off their extreme wealth which I will never attained because I am a class/monarch cuck.

Most "modern art" sucks plebs
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So inspiring so thought provoking :)
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>>53122043
that's a modern fart haha
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>>53122030
you won't bait me friend, I'm already trying to trigger other genuine racists ITT
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real art is skill.

anyone can shit on a canvas but not everyone can sculpt a masterpiece like this.
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I've always liked a bit of basquiat
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@53122081

roach
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>>53122069
modern "art" is for people that have no talent.

Why bother to paint a master piece when you can just throw a bunch of wine bottles around a room and have people call it fantastic?
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>>53122004
>mfw someone got so triggered here by modern art he cut it up
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>>53122114
chinese workers can churn that out by the truckload in sweatshops

are they artists?
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>>53122114
So why are there so many sculptures then
Checkmate
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The best art is art made by severely mentally ill people desu, it's so fucking interesting.
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>>53122140

no they cant
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>>53122114
i could crank that shit out easily if you gave me 5 years and several hundred buckets of cocaine
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>>53120763
>"Extraordinary"
Beyond the ordinary and mundane
>"Supernatural"
Outside nature/the natural world
>"Inflammable"
I'll give you this one since I didn't realise it meant the same as flammable until they made a joke about it on Archer.

>English is a dumb language
Rasheed
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>>53122134
if it's that easy why don't you do it
>inb4 feeble excuses
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>>53122134
stop gassing youve already proven youve got no idea what youre on about
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>>53122136
haha BTFO
Wish I could've seen the upper class, art school faggots face when he sees his """art""" got fucked up
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>>53122197

>replying to a 1 hour old post

kill yourself
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If you don't know the difference between modern art and contemporary art you shouldn't even be talking about it desu.

and if you say >"art" unironically you should KYS
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Hundreds of years ago artists spent years sculpting masterpieces out of rock.

At the Los Angeles art museum there is literally just a rock. It's a 340 ton boulder.

And it's called art.
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Plato was full of shit desu
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>>53121494
It is rather nicely composed. Its a meme pic but there is still something to it.
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Not only am I smarter than you, but all of my opinions are right, while yours are wrong.
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>>53122225
Why is it that literally all media sources all this degenerate trash "modern art" and only you're saying "no no no that's contemporary art!!!"
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>>53122235
>muh nostalgia for sculptures of greek men with their willies out and defined muscle
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>>53122134
So why haven't got anything in the Tate modern?
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>>53122248
Are you me?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK0P1Bk8Cx4

danger zone 2bh
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>>53122275
because the media you read are as pleb as you
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>normies fuck off to school and work
>we have a discussion about art

>the normies will soon return
>it'll be back to shitposting

>the normies will be in bed by 3am
>well go back to having good discussions

Normies ruining shit isn't even a meme, it's a reality. For the whole of these last 2 weeks /brit/ has been non stop shit posting, but as soon as school starts back up the posts get better. Coincidence?
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>>53122319

Billy
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>this 'modern art' hogwash is simply repulsive, I can only appreciate art with a high level of technical skill
>it of course goes without saying I'm a huge metalhead
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>>53122319
Not surprising what so ever
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>>53122295
Why would I want to involve myself in something that I find disgusting? What kind of dumb question is that?

I could make money easily letting old men fuck me up the arse but I'm not going to do that either.
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>>53122319
>>we have a discussion about art
i'd say it's more like a shit flinging match
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>>53122275
https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/themes/what-is-modern-art
http://www.theartstory.org/definition-modern-art.htm
http://www.tate.org.uk/learn/online-resources/glossary/m/modernism#introduction
http://arthistory.about.com/od/modernart/f/what_is.-Eoj.htm
http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/modern-art.htm
http://www.getty.edu/education/teachers/classroom_resources/curricula/contemporary_art/background1.html
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should i have bolognese for breakfast or should i have soup
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>>53122275
Because there are defined periods in time where are art is collectivised into different era's.

Why are you finding this so hard to comprehend.

You wouldn't be confused between the bronze age and the medieval age.
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>>53121767
>I am so insecure that I need an authority to tell me what to cherish and the thought of deciding for myself is scary
Only morons care whether or not something is called art. People who matter will be discussing whether its actually good.
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>>53122319
>implying normies don't shitpost from work
>implying this "discussion about art" isn't just shit-flinging opinions
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hey guys
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>>53122372
alri newcunt
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>>53122372
people who matter will be discussing why they think its good rather than crying about muh modern poo poo art

>>53122382
im a normie neet and ive been here all morning wag1
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>>53122392
Hello
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why doesn't england have many famous painters
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>>53122352

>having all those sources ready in 3 minutes

mmm you argue about this a lot don't you?
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>>53121856
Castle Douglas?
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>>53122372
That's funny because modern art is all fucking appeal to authority.

It's all about standing around and pretentiously brown nosing each-other.
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>>53122432
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define+modern+art
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>>53122349
you're now discussing the very nature of logos itself dear chum
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>>53122431

instead of painting our talented men revolutionised the planet with engineering and industry
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-35229309

lol
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>>53122431
no time to paint when you're sailing the world enslaving brown people
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>>53122431
We have Banksy but nice try sweetheart :) x
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Which one of these pieces of art is better?

inb4 "muh subjectivity" one of these paintings is aesthetically more beautiful and shows a higher artistic skill than the other.
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thehe
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>>53122471
could sell the right for quite a bit more as well :^)
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>>53122431
I know of many famous painters and decorators,
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>>53122473
oops i meant to reply to >>53122114
soz
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>>53122465
>painters

Nice to see educated banksy supporters
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>>53122473

oi Israel, do the world a favour and just nuke all the muds surrounding you ok?
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>>53122465
really
you name banksy and not turner
also he said many not any
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>>53122424
what's up
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Just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc
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>>53122500
banksy has painted before you spacker
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>>53122519
Just woke up, so my dick at the moment
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>tfw not sure if I can make it to European civil war
I just want to remove some shitskins ffs 2bh kin
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>>53122533
no he hasnt that's a lie you're a liar
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telling the truth
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Was this the first historical occurrence of "be american get shot?"
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>>53122500
>>53122504

Go donate some lego to Weiwei you spackers.
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if UKIP are so good how come they only got 1(one) seat?
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>>53122533
>>53122554
didnt he buy up random forgotten ones and paint over them?
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here's every banksy piece
>ooh i've mixed something light and whimsical with something dark and depressing aren't I clever
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>oi mate come for a hop in the pool!
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>>53122583
Because most people in every other constituency voted for another party.
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>>53122235
Its almost as though the industrial revolution and technological advancements severely depreciated the skill of making inanimate objects look lifelike and this was picked up on by later artists.
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>>53122546
ok
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Fucking arrogant student art cunts. When they finally get out of their safe space and learn how the real world works they'll form some reason opinions like the rest of us:

-Modern art is shit
-Modern music is bad
-Uni is a waste of time
-Immigration is bad
-Working is a mugs game
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>>53122583
because the jewish propaganda against them is too strong
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>>53122628
>Modern music is bad

You're confusing modern music and contemporary music.
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>>53122628
t. cultured and worldly NEET
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>>53122583
Because out voting system doesn't work properly.
They're literally the third largest party on voter share.

SNP are the third largest party in parliament despite them getting only a tiny amount of votes.
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>>53122628
having seen some of the scores you sad acts got in that personality test the other day i wouldnt be surprised if a lot of you were genuinely like this
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>>53122626
About to have some breakfast now. Might make eggs bennedict
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>>53122684
and thank god, imagine if a one-issue joke party like UKIP got the amount of seats the SNP did. one shudders to imagine
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>>53122687
link it la I want to do it.
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>>53122628
>Modern music is bad
>Uni is a waste of time
>Immigration is bad
>Working is a mugs game

t. Failed normie NEET
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>>53122713
>one-issue joke part

Sounds like the SNP to me
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>>53122628
t. Graduated with a 2.1 in hard-knock studies from the University of Life.
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>>53122713
Isn't the SNP also a one issue joke party?
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>>53122713
>SNP aren't one issue
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>>53122471
Can you explain which is better? Keep in mind, being skilled at something or putting lots of effort into it doesn't make it any more valuable or worthwhile.
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>>53122718
http://www.seemypersonality.com/
warning its quite long (50 to 100 questions) but the results are quite specific, detailed and spookily accurate
and you get loads of cute little graphics and charts at the end
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>>53122732
>Implying any of that shit isn't 100% correct apart from music maybe

JUST
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>>53122762
The one that's better is obviously the one which is more expensive
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>>53122748
>>53122754
>>53122756
that's the joke muppets
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>>53122762
>being skilled at something or putting lots of effort into it doesn't make it any more valuable or worthwhile.

It literally does
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>>53122762

>being skilled at something or putting lots of effort into it doesn't make it any more valuable or worthwhile.

why not?

being skilled at other professions gives you worth so why not art?
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>>53122706
sounds good
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>>53122756
>>53122754
>>53122748
damn nerds 2 ez
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>last year
>be on train
>some students talking about optical illusions in paintings
>don't seem to know too much about it though
>one girl shows another Holbein's "Ambassadors" on a tablet
>they mention that they wonder who the people were
>butt in and tell them it's Georges de Selve and Jean de Dinteville, French ambassadors
>they ask me if I'm an art historian
>"no, I'm an engineer"
>chat with them for a while

It happened lads I don't care if you don't believe me.
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>>53122628

White neets aren't above working immigrants lad, you're both leeches on society.
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>mfw people genuinely get triggered by people who hate non-whites
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>>53122732
>Immigration isn't bad

Rasheed
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