Why won't the Mexicans turn to fascism to save them from their cartel problems?
Mussolini's fascist party supressed the Italian Mafia
America would just revive them like they did with mafia
>>53065817
Because then they would have problem of murricans dropping shitton of freedom upon them, after which probably putting one of those cartels in the lead of the country.
just legalise it and they will be gone
>>53065817
Mexican cartel problems are a direct result of the american appetite for drugs. Until americans stop giving billions in cash and guns to the cartels in exchange for their product, Mexico is powerless.
>>53065817
>fascist drug dealing countries
Check out Venezuela for your thought experiment
>>53065854
>>53065881
>>53065914
it's not us really
if it was only us colombia would be having the drug problem
>>53065854
We had Mafia before he came to power.
We were able to successfully castrate them in the 80s and 90s. Meanwhile, they still have major power in Sicily.
Why doesn't the whole world just become National Socialist? Jews wouldn't allow it.
because we are winning
>>53065914
This isn't shitposting. He's right. I think USA consumes like 40% of the cocaine in the world.
The war on drugs will never end as long as USA stops being such a faggot junkie country, as long as corruption is rampant in Mexico, and as long as there's so much money involved. Everyone benefits most with drugs being illegal.
dont be fools. Drug lords are uneducated dirty hobos, the mexican governmet can get rod of them in 1 day, but the mexican goverment loves the million dollars that uncle sam give us to fight drug issue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexico%27s_37_most-wanted_drug_lords
>>53065957
You don't get it, there was no mafia after fascism, but then the american army brought the mafia bosses like Lucky Luciano for the invasion of Sicily because they knew the place and left them there
>>53065991
I am happy you agree but am offended you assumed because of my flag that I would be shitposting. It's a complex feel
>>53065914
>mexican billionaires prey on weak-willed poor people
>ay caramba we woodent hab dese a-problems if u didint hab de deman ese
Like a flea blaming a dog for having so much blood so close to its skin.
>>53066029
But I thought Lucky Luciano had tons of contacts in south Italy, therefore his rings were still functional.
>>53066035
I myself didn't assume it, but as you can see, americans love to blame their problems on everyone but themselves thanks to these kind of dumbass analogies: >>53066036
>>53066029
He didn't rebuild the Mafia from the nothing with his bare hands. There were surviving elements despite Mussolini, which would have come back after Facism ended regardless of American mafiosos.
>>53066036
Trust an american to oversimplify the situation and miss the salient points
>>53066029
US always shitting in our world!
fast and furious op is that americans are selling powerful guns to the mexican cartels!
>>53066098
>dumbass analogies
It's literally true, though. Rich narcos prey on poor degenerates with their cheap and shit quality drugs, pay off the corrupt Mexican government to ensure survival, and then pathetic, spineless Mexicans like you blame us (while also crying when we try to secure the border) for getting preyed on.
>>53066168
>Brazil
looooool no fucking way
>>53066168
What's the source of this graph? I need to understand this further.
>>53066191
for Gods sake, its always your fault! or Syrian Rebels manufactured ak 47 in 1 day? hhahahahahahhahahahha US is the biggest machinery of death.
>>53066098
This is the only problem I have with America and Americans in general, actually. I love their country and all, but it seems that they are incapable of accepting their government does wrong sometimes, they simply can't take responsibility for anything because WE WUZ NAZI DESTROYERS N SHIT. If you ask them about the Mexican-American war, the blame is all on us and not in their manifest destiny, if you ask them about Pinochet, the blame is all on Chile and not them, if you ask them about the drug war, nope, it has nothing to do with the cartels, the list goes on. For some reason they NEED to be the good guys 100% of the times or else they lose it.
>>53066220
jajajajajajja tambien era un increduo como tu
http://thecatalist.org/2010/03/mexico-2050-the-world´s-fifth-largest-economy/
I LIVE IN THE BORDER AND I HAVE TO SAY TO AMERICANS NO MORE WEAPONS!
>>53066191
Or you could use your overwhelming financial and political power to properly address the drug problem in your country. Mexico is a developing nation, ripe for exploitation. There are shit people in every country, it's just that Mexico's lack of development means that they are unable to effectively deal with them. America is a fucking terrible neighbour.
>>53066168
yep, this is outdated
>>53066257
Exactly, the whole MUH FREEDOMS AMERICA FUCK YEAH AMERICA #1 attitude is annoying. I love USA, I live near the border and go there often but I probably wouldn't ever live there, and I tell them that americans go "OMG WHY NOT, USA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN DA WORLD, MEXIcO HAS A LOT OF VIOLENCE OMG!" They never believe me when I tell them I walk all the time at all hours and have never been mugged and my house has never been mugged.
Also their dumbass measuring system is annoying. The rest of the world uses metric system, but not USA cuz "WE WUZ ASTRONAUTS N SHIT"
>>53066168
>a few weapons were put into druglords hands to verify trazability of them
>hurr durr US is arming mexican drug armies
>>53065905
>just legalise it and they will be gone
America is the one who needs to legalize drugs.
The only one wanting to liberalize the drug laws in America is Sanders. And sadly he ain't gonna win.
>>53066231
>hhahahahahahhahahahha
>>53066281
>jajajajajajja
By the way. It isn't a simple problem OP, although some argue that the solution could be quite simple: legalizing all the drugs. However there are several factors involved in this issue as it currently stands:
>A very poor country, which allows anyone and everyone to become corrupt
>Druglords that have enough power to do as they please
>Government officials that are linked to or somehow allow the druglords to do what they will
>The US buying the druglords' goods, while at the same time providing them with weapons
>A society lacking cohesion, both morally and ideologically
All these factors are causing the issues, unfortunately aside from legalizing the drugs I have no idea what could help fix the problem
>>53065905
Stoners opinions cannot be taken into account
>>53066342
Si Colombia, vivo en Juarez, la Nueva Medellin, los cerdos texanos pueden comprar armas como si vas al 7 eleven. De pronto los sicarios sucios y mal educados tiene armas de alto poder.
>>53066231
>AK47
>American
Please stop your commie latin american rant
>>53066396
This is not a matter of being a stoner or not. It's fucking common sense.
>>53066415
señor parcero, vivo en la frontera con USA y depronto los narcos tienen armas fabricadas en USA. LO SIENTO, SI VOTE A ANDRES MANUEL EN 2012, DE LA IZQUIERDA MEXICANA.
>>53066427
No, it's not.
If drugs become legal, stoners and douchebags from everywhere will show at our's doors willing to get wasted in our streets. Littering problems, rape and other things they experience in Ibiza, southern Asia and others will multiply to a greater power in Bolivia, Perú and Colombia.
>>53066456
AK47's are not american made, friend.
>>53066407
The weapons are not thrown willingly into Mexico. There are smugglers from the USA to Mexico, it is not a government policy.
>>53066484
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47#Outside_of_the_Soviet_Union.2FRussian_Federation
>>53066464
EZ. Just legalise the manufacture and transport of drugs for export only. Let the consequences of american consumption sit with the americans only
>>53066231
>half-illiterate Paco manages to type out an off-topic reply with circa-2004 anti-American edginess
>>53066319
>Or you could use your overwhelming financial and political power to properly address the drug problem in your country.
We're not an island. We have a massive border with a chain of third-world countries that make up one of the largest drug-producing regions in the world.
>Mexico is a developing nation,
Because they're corrupt as sin.
>ripe for exploitation.
The same people who are exploiting them are exploiting us. The problem is, they reside in a sovereign country that can't manage them, so they spill over and prey on us.
If we invaded them, you'd call us imperialist fascists. "Supporting" a government that is infiltrated and corrupted by these narcos doesn't work very well, either.
Mexicans seem to want the solution to be every single poor American drug user to choose to stop consuming illegal drugs, rather than the more practical solution of reducing the parasites and their influence by force.
>>53066464
>If drugs become legal, stoners and douchebags from everywhere will show at our's doors willing to get wasted in our streets
Which they already do. Consumption doesn't stop a single bit if you make drugs illegal, it's the fucking same. Didn't you learned a thing when America made alcohol illegal? What happened? Mafias everywhere.
Making them legal and giving proper taxes (therefore increasing their price, like with cigars) might even have more chances of stopping consumption (a tiny bit) than outright banning them. And either way, I would rather have stoners than fucking beheadings in my street.
You are that one ultra-conservative Colombian that swears NAFTA is perfect, aren't you?
>>53066517
"we are victims, we don't consume drugs because we want to, my neighbor is selling coke so just HAD to try that shit out, responsibility isn't an american word"
Americans are corrupt too. Have you heard of fast and furious operations? Americans are sick, they are all drug addicts.
>>53066517
>just shoot them, that will solve the problem.
Most american post of 2016 thus far
>>53066484
>AK type rifles
Not AK47's, ours use a similar type of receiver.
Can you explain, though, how "we" managed to "supply" these rebels with Soviet serial AKM's?
>>53066617
Never touched a narcotic in my life, so you're wrong Vasquez.
>>53066561
Don't be a fool. Are you just trying to convince me that Colombia alone should house ALL the problems the drug business would represent if legal? NO WAY!
>>53066679
You buy in one place for delivery to another. It's not hard at all if you have half a brain
>>53066712
>that Colombia alone should house ALL the problems the drug business would represent if legal? NO WAY!
What? Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>53066679
That's what Mr. Red Mexico is trying to say, that the american government supplied with heavy amounts of AK's to the low-iq mexican drug armies
>>53066738
If you have problems with the understanding that drugs being legal imply swarms of stoners and cokeheads traveling to rural Perú, Bolivia and Colombia in order to satisfy their addictions, it's not my problem.
>>53066720
Sorry if I'm reluctant to believe that the US Government would purchase Soviet weapons from gun traffickers to give to criminals and incompetent rebels.
>>53066742
y asi es. Yo vivo en Juarez, la ciudad mas violenta como Medellin. Los Estados Unidos fabrican armas mortales, no importan si ellos no las fabricaron, te hace falta venir a Norteamerica parce. AMLO 2012
>>53066770
>imply swarms of stoners and coke heads traveling to rural Perú, Bolivia and Colombia in order to satisfy their addictions
How?
It is your problem is you make moronic statements that you can't back up.
ES TU CULPA ESTADOS UNIDOS
VIVA BOLIVAR Y EL CHE GUEVERA JAJAJAJAJAJJA
>>53066742
>Low IQ
I wish that was meant to be an insult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_s07BgD8xo
I'll leave this here and not post anymore, some of the posters are /pol/ tier ones, with whom I have little interest in debating with.
>>53066818
El parcero tiene razon, todos los narcos juarenses y buchones son retardados y no saben cuanto es 2+2
>>53066803
>How
Stop it.
>>53066818
What can you say about the intelligence level of a person who joins the drug bands despite the gruesome consequences everyone knows?
>>53066623
>just shoot them, that will solve the problem.
>just tell them what they're doing is wrong and they'll stop :^)
>just tell them to just say no to drugs :^)
>>53066566
"ajajajajajajaja we only infiltrated jor entire country with street gangs and broke every law jor nation set up to bring dese droogs here becuz sum ov jor criminalz seddey wanned sum ese"
"y ju made it so easy ajajajaajajaja"
"ju was practically begging for dem mang"
>>53066842
porque sus IQs es de lo mas bajo, de esos subhumanos.
>>53066833
Si, por desgracia no solo son ellos, es la sociedad en general, por eso digo que desearía que fuera un insulto, pero es la realidad.
>>53066842
>What can you say about the intelligence level of a person who joins the drug bands despite the gruesome consequences everyone knows?
FIERRO PARIENTE
>>53066783
Juat like they'd never sell arms to Iran that they will use to fight Iraq (who the US was also supporting) in order to fund terrorists in Nicaragua. Are you a troll?
>>53066874
La sociedad no tiene la culpa de que haya tanto narco imbecil, los buenos y listos somos mayoria.
>>53066881
But I thought those were american-made weapons
>>53066842
I didn't disagree with what you said, I am simply stating I wish there weren't that many idiots. That's all. I entirely agree with what you said.
>>53066881
Thank you for the complement but no.
If this is the case then what is the end goal for supplying these unstables?
Cheaper drugs? More secure border? Peace in the Middle East?
Or is it CIA fucking with people because they're bored over at Langley?
>>53066908
parce, sabemos que la ak 47 la inventaron los rusos, pero US es la mayor arma del mundo.
>>53066842
Oh, I see, you somehow thought that I said Colombia should legalize drugs and not that America should, silly me.
>>53065905
>>53066427
>>53066561
In these posts, I am talking about how America and Mexico should handle the problem, not Colombia. You would have to think ho to deal with the problem yourselves, but at this point, both America and to an extent, Mexico, need to legalize drugs.
Stoners travelling to Colombia as a result of this is some bullshit fantazy because you can't comprehend what I'm saying.
>>53065987
t. El chapo
>>53066944
I'm talking about those weapons they smuggled to Central America who were allegedly for the Iraq government to fight Iran
>>53066987
They legalized cannabis consumption first in the Netherlands and guess what happened?
>>53067061
Nothing?
>>53067061
mhhh 0 homicides?
eres el hijo de Santos?
>>53067061
They banned alcohol consumption first in America, wanna know what happened?
>>53067075
Foreign consumption within the Netherlands boosted up and with it, prostitution also grow. After that, the Netherlands regulated the thing.
>>53067100
Santos is eager to legalize the thing. He believes in surrender to drug kingpins and legalization of their business. Imagine if suddenly Joaquín Guzman becomes an important entrepeneur.
>>53067129
yes. Al capone and Americans had great parties in ciudad Juarez.
>>53067152
>After that, the Netherlands regulated the thing.
And they are still one of the best places in the world to live. Your point?
>>53067152
>if suddenly Joaquín Guzman becomes an important entrepeneur.
Are you fucking stupid? Legalizing drugs =//= forgiving murderers. Even if drugs were legal, he would still be a fucking criminal.
>>53067186
Legalizing will become a problem. Colombia is not Netherlands and consuming marihuana inside a coffee shop is not the same as snorting cocaine amongst the andean hills
>>53067226
>Colombia is not Netherlands
Hey, I'm not talking about Colombia, shithead.
>>53067222
And his figureheads who are clean of everything but drug trafficking? They will suddenly forget how to run and profit from the business?
>>53067244
So you have to use insults to discuss the subject? As I said before, I'm done with your angry-young-retard antifa attitude.
>>53067266
>They will suddenly forget how to run and profit from the business?
They wouldn't be relevant anymore. And they would still be persecuted by the police.
>>53067266
>Boo hoo, I'm a moron and I can't stand people calling me out because of this.
If you don't have a proper argument, then you are right, we are done.
But why Uruguay can legalize their ween and Colombia and Mexico not? if they UY is not a 1st world country as Netherlands?
>>53067333
Weed is different from cocaine
>>53067314
>If you don't have a proper argument
I'm not the one recurring to insults, mate. Therefore I made the day.
>>53067378
Thus Colombia and Mexico should legalize weed tomorrow, not cocaine.
>>53067378
Maybe if my arguments were purely based on ad hominems you would have a point. But no, I insulted you because you are moron, and then gave you reasons why you were wrong.
So there's that.
>>53067447
>i'm not ad hominem-ing
>i insult you because you're a moron
>>53067466
si lucha en lodo
Le American Boogeyman: The Thread
>>53065955
>it's not us really
Then why is there still a "drug war"?
The cartels, like any corporation, use the government as a means of sending products internationally without any competition domestic to the customer countries.
