How did Greece go from the cradle of Western civilization to, well, you know; and how can this be fixed?
>>53051982
turks
>>53052054
Yes we need Turkish administration there to fix Greece
>>53051982
>Democracy
>sports
You are using greek civilization.
>>53051982
Same like Italy and Spain
I blame the Anglos
to what? the best (it's not arguable) post-Ottoman society?
>>53051982
How come Greece was never converted to Islam like much of the northern balkans?
>>53052174
there were greek-speaking muslims in macedonia and (mostly) crete
>>53052174
Not much of the Northern Balkans converted to Islam my friend
>le muh cradle of civilization
These arguments are so fucking stupid,ancient greeks were surely less civilized than nowadays greeks
This is such a stupid perspective
>>53052149
always suspect were them to blame
>>53052253
It's about relativity Luigi, back then they were the the best of the best, now they're literal whos in denbts.
>>53052240
Then what are Bosnians?
We'll live, my Oriental friend.
>>53052408
living memes
>>53052174
actually there were alot of greek muslim they went to turkey after the population exchange between greece and turkey
>>53052491
the majority of muslims involved in the exchange were turkish-speaking (mostly transferred from Anatolia to the Balkans during the period of early Ottoman conquests). there actually weren't that many greek-speaking ones.
>>53052378
there are countries with more debts than them
>>53051982
I blame it all on cancerous neighbors and the fact that we don't border with any first world country.
>>53051982
>"Western civilisation"
>Fund by Southern European Greeks and Romans
>Religion came from the Levant in Asia
lol western european cucks
>>53052363
2perfidious4u2bh
Just imagine what Greece would be like if they were allowed to be saved by their Orthodox slavic brethen.
>>53051982
Everyone waxes and wanes. Maybe one day it will be Canada on top and people will post pics of US and West Europe and say "What went wrong?"
Hell maybe even Africa
>>53052615
debt as % of GDP on its own means nothing anyway. Greek debt is problematic for other reasons, compared to say German.
>>53052693
in truth, the UK has helped Greece more than any other country has...
>>53052491
Nah man it the other way around , many of the Turkish speaking Orthodox Karamans were sent to Greece
>>53052818
This ybh we love to bitch and moan about them but their help was much needed at that time
>>53052857
it was no "other way around", the exchange was purely religious: greek orthodox vs muslims. it just so happened that the vast majority of greek orthodox were also greek-speaking and the vast majority of muslims were also turkish-speaking.
>>53051982
there is only one man who can fix greece
pic related
>be Greek
>go out to grab some coffee
>only hear albanoturkish, gypsy, romanian, alahuakbarish, bulgarian
someone wake me up pls!
>>53051982
Everything went downhill once Greeks stopped wearing comfy natural togas and started wearing stifling constricting pants.
Prove me wrong.
>>53052796
>Maybe one day it will be Canada on top.
LOL
>>53053019
>this kills the foreigners
>>53053173
>Greek """""""music"""""""
>>53052408
he said not much of the Balkans was converted which is true, he didn't say no one converted. Bosnians converted for beneficial reasons anyway.
>>53053166
Freshwater my fat friend... Our day will come.
>>53052993
This guy looks literally sub-human, Greece is truly just Turkey now.
Simple, by disolving the EU.
>>53052818
>in truth, the UK has helped Greece more than any other country has...
you realize they were the ones who encouraged you to partake in the disastrous greco-turkish war after ww1
