Is it true that uni in yurop is 10x harder than it is in America?
Is that why so many European kids clamor to get into our colleges? An easy ride?
is it true that in some european universities education is free?
>>53048520
>mfw european unis are so autistically difficult yuropoors pay big stacks to learn in the US
>>53048597
>tfw you will never study in 1st world
>>53048477
It's hard to say based on the different academyc systems. In Spain university degrees consists in 4 years, sometimes 5 or 6, of specialized study in one field.
To comparing that to American Bachelor's studies where you can take gender studies, psychology 101, afroamerican hystory and graduate is a bit strange.
btw i'm probably taking the bait and displaying my ignorance in the american university system.
>>53048520
University is free in France, you only need to pay when you register, at the begining of each year, and if you meet the social criteras, even this is free.
>>53049544
cool
now fucking refugeez have 10x better education than me
I always thought Euros went to American Colleges because of the higher prestige related to the college itself or by being able to say they studied in America, again giving more prestige than getting a free ride in Yuropooran colleges
>>53049397
You are, everything you listed is a real life meme for everyone except those who took them.
>>53049652
I doubt the refugees could go to university.
>>53049652
Also scolarship based on social criteras does not apply to foreigners.
>>53049683
>those who took them.
so it's actually real ?
>>53048729
There's an american university in Kyrgyzstan. I studied on an exchange program there last semester, the quality of education was very comparable to my home school.
>>53048477
It's because an american college is basicly a 4 year vacation full of drinking fucking and "studying", it's when american girls go into heat and will fuck anything with a pulse and being a total whore is ok unlike here where you either have prostitutes or prudes that will only give it up after a year or two of dating and only after like 23, not to mention that american women go crazy for euros, even gypsies since it's hip and progressive, hope you have a daughter m8 cuz i'm coming over on vacation next summer
>>53048477
Somehow I doubt this
Can't you get kicked out of a program if you flunk too many exams or similar in the US?
In Sweden you can retake exams as many times as you want. You could lag several years behind and still get the degree
I signed up for every exam even if I hadn't studied, just for the sake of working the problems.
Also if you were unsure if you could get the top grade or not, you could just hand in a blank exam instead so you would fail and try to get the maximum grade at the next opportunity
>>53049926
I bet it was expensive af? We have same schools here too, 1 year of studying costs about 3500$ -5000$
>>53049814
but at least they can get free education
>>53050079
Wow that's stupid even the biggest idiot could become a doctor in sweden after he did the samd question 50 times, don't you worry about that? A literal retard might be prescribing you antibiotic or cianide, who knows which?
>>53050090
It was pocket change compared to my home school; but yeah, those figures are around what a year costs.
The university has a program for full-ride scholarships though. You take an entrance exam, if you get a high enough grade then you study a basic curriculum for either a year or semester (I can't remember which). If you get high enough grades during that time, you're awarded free tuition for all 4 years.
>>53050079
>In Sweden you can retake exams as many times as you want.
What's the motivation to study then?
>>53048477
Studying is the US has a good reputation for proving you are "international".
I think the Euro system is more like "the weak shall perish" whereas the US system is more like "lets support people individually".
>>53050090
Yeah, they can.
>>53050425
1) You only get full benefits if you finish a set amount of credits each term. There is still leeway to flunk a lot of exams though. I had a backlog of 5 exams at one point
2) If you study longer than you're supposed to, you are using up your benefits for post-grad studies (you can only get benefits up to MSc level plus one year or something like that)
3) You will look like a jackass and a failure with a peculiar resume
It is also hard to live off the benefits alone. I had a negative net because of my rent alone
>>53050722
In Spain you can retake failed subjects but every year that you repeat you need to pay more. It gets to the point where a subject that initially costs 100 euros can end up costing 1000 after 3 years of retaking it.
Education here is dirt cheap compared to the US, yet a lot of people complain of it getting more expensive. I have no idea how our colleges quality is compared to the US but i can say that we don't have any colleges in the european top50 ranking.
>>53050079
>In Sweden you can retake exams as many times as you want. You could lag several years behind and still get the degree
Good idea.
Too bad British uni isn't free.
>>53051047
>Too bad British uni isn't free.
People keep saying this like we don't have lower taxes and a decent-ish loans system.
>>53051084
>Implying getting in debt at 18 years old is anything "decent"
>>53051141
>Le debt meme for students or higher taxes for everyone
kk
i never understood why People study.
i met a lot of People who study, they are just as stupid as People who dont + think they smart.
>>53051084
are master's degrees expensive in Britain?
Here they don't go lower than 10.000€ per year
>>53049845
Yes but people who make it their focus (Major) are almost always complete and utter failure bar a few outstanding cases where the people had exceptional connections. Anyone else who takes the class will only do it to fulfill Freshmen (1st year) requirements as many colleges require you to take certain categories of courses in your 1st year, ex. a math class, a history class.
I would never go to uni in the states. I'm perfectly happy here and the fees are so much lower.
>>53051199
It's not a meme, getting a loan is getting in debt, even if it's easy to refund.
>>53051210
good job opportunities often require higher education degrees
not everybody wants to be a plunder or a bartender
>>53051047
>English
ftfy
t. jock mchaggis
>>53051381
But he already has a point... most of people think that by studying they're entitled to a good job opportunity
>>53051210
>they are just as stupid as People who dont
But not as naive.
I didn't go to uni because of the debt. About a third of the people I went to school with didn't go to uni, about half of them because they didn't want the debt.
It doesn't matter how the government words it or how it is paid back, some people just don't see how paying back £50,000 the rest of their lives to do a 3 year course for a degree in some bullshit liberal art or humanities is worth it, especially when the terms aren't fixed.
>>53048477
>Is it true that uni in yurop is 10x harder than it is in America?
Not at all
It's structured differently though, less emphasis on class attendance. You're required to do more of your own work. The types of exams and papers are the same but in the US there's more of a repetitive class - work - class schedule, while it's Irregular in Europe (at least Germany) with more of a "finish this by the end of the year"
Graduate degrees are much more similar across the Atlantic.
>>53051254
>many colleges require you to take certain categories of courses in your 1st year, ex. a math class, a history class.
See that's what i meant before, in Spain if you major in history you take 4 years of history, if you do maths you do 4 years of maths. Why do you go to university and waste time studying unrelated stuff?
This leads me to believe that undergraduate majors are even more useless in the US than they are here (they are pretty terrible here)
>>53051447
>most of people think that by studying they're entitled to a good job opportunity
And you think they shouldn't be?
>>53051650
No. Market is the only true source of which jobs are on demand or not. No one can force the commerce and industry ventures to hire people they do not want and/or need.
>>53051579
>liberal art
>humanities
why not go and study something useful instead? the 3 year course would probably pay off that way
>>53051582
>US there's more of a repetitive class - work - class schedule, while it's Irregular in Europe (at least Germany) with more of a "finish this by the end of the year"
I wish we had that too desu
Always had excellent grades then in uni once I moved out and there was no mandatory attendance or any form of routine in my life I became a massive slacker
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>>53051714
By your logic we should be forcing people to work in jobs that they don't want to do, just because the market demands it.
Nobody is forcing the industry and corporations to hire people they don't want/or need. That's why my country has a 50% of young unemployement and that's why most of us former college students are migrating to places that actually have that demand.
>>53051759
I'm just too thick. The only thing I was really good at was humanities, so it makes more sense for me to just get a proper job rather than pay £50,000 and waste 3 years for a useless degree.
>>53051511
>But not as naive.
Not even close
>>53051874
I get you
I was shit at math and had to go for social sciences in order to get a chance at a working. But in my case, the bachelor's is going to cost less than 5000€, not £50000. And it's 4 years instead of 3, which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you see it.
>>53051893
If you're implying those who do not study are already informed.
>>53040272
That's because in america your course is done in parralell with a textbook while we are just given random paper written by our teachers (sometime they don't even give papers they just orally teach something).
So in our system it's difficult to get back at work when you did nothing for 3 months because we got absolutely no references exept what we did in the classes we were supposed to go to
>>53052146
>going to cost less than 5000€
you are lucky, it's more than 10.000 where i live
>>53051872
At first, working in any job is something no one wants to do.
Last but not least, if you force companies to hire people no one needs or wants, you're forcing them to flunk their profits and ultimately forcing them to fire people.
TL;DR: Permanently unemployed fags are those who choose badly and trying to blame others for personal failures is adding insult to the injury
>>53052413
Aren't public uni cheaper in your country ? Ours are like 150€ a year without even mentionning the gov helps you get
>>53052413
is it a very technical degree? Maybe it's also a pretty good college.
But yeah every year I'm paying around 1200€ total
>>53051210
>i never understood why People study.
Because it's fun and you get a better job. It's nothing like high school
>>53052503
Dude relax
>working in any job is something no one wants to do.
This isn't communist russia, people are free to pick their job because obviously some people are going to handle certain tasks better than others.
>if you force companies to hire p-
I said nobody is forcing companies to do so. That's why economic migrants exist, to fill the job opportunities that other people won't take in other countries.
And I don't even know who you're talking about. Permanenltly unemployed fags who blame others for personal failures? That's certainly not most of the people who have college degrees. Even if the market can't handle the offer of graduates, a lot of us end up working in low paying uneducated jobs anyway.
>>53052526
>>53052534
Around 2100 € every year in a public university studying a degree in the "health science" field.
can't make this shit up
>>53052772
forgot to say that this are the perks of living in Catalonia
>>53052745
Journalists, social workers and related graduates from lib-arts suffer the most in a crisis, just because of their degrees.
>>53052772
>>53052824
Health science is pretty technical. You probably have a lot of practical lessons with hi tech machines and stuff like that. I can see why it is more expensive.
Also health science graduates usually have way better job prospects than all the other ones, you'll probably earn what your degree costed you in less than a year of work.
Is it UB? If so then there's even more chances for you.
>>53052880
Well that's their problem for picking a degree that is not very marketable.
College isn't made exclusively out of liberal art students.
>>53052957
It's psychology m8
Masters are the only hope
>>53053139
Oh shit then yeah you're as fucked as I am.
Probably going to take my master's outside of the country for the extra CV points.
Good luck
>>53053223
good luck to you too
>>53048477
Aren't the 2 first years of american college "High school 2: Electric boogaloo"?
And then you only do 2 year in a specialized field?
I did 1 year in a German uni. It was fucked up. You take like 10 classes but you don't have any reading or exams. In some cases I got credits based on doing a short presentation.
>>53048520
YEAH
ITS FREE HERE
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>>53053934
non-STEM degree detected
>>53049397
No, you're completely right. Its actually required in my state's colleges that you take some kind of brown people studies class to graduate.
>>53051579
>what is a student loan
>what is an interest free loan which is only paid back in small installments (usually around £5) monthly but only when the student is earning more than £21,000 a year
>>53048477
American universities are three-tiered generally.
Public research universities and elite private universities are usually top notch and outperform generally most European schools. Funding and pay is way better in the states than anywhere else, which is why a lot of European scientists and academics migrate to NA.
Tier 2 and 3 are generally shitty and have non-existent research/science departments. IE one of those christian universities.
>>53053934
Can't be too hard for the Americans, u kno
>>53048477
>>53048520
yes and yes
I unironically think that the American system, in which students are encouraged to become proficient in a variety of subjects before homing in one major, is far superior than the English system and (theoretically) produces a much more rounded and intelligent graduate. It only fails to do so because universities in the USA
are, far more than anywhere else in the world, money-making machines where genuine intellectualism is being replaced by left-wing ideology.
College is a joke, but you misunderstood the purpose of any 'core' liberal arts subject if you assumed it was designed to educate. The purpose is to lay down the thought structures needed for later media and pseudoinformation to find fertile ground, to guard the path to knowledge while making straight the path to deception and death. So, in that sense universities primarily prevent education as you think the term is understood
>>53058683
_>*tips tinfoil hat*
