Well, at long last I finally finished my balkanized US map. What do you guys think?
>>53021080
try again with less squares. use a physical map with rivers and stuff
>balkanized
>US
never going to happen
>>53021080
Western connecticut belongs to NYC.
Rural northern New York belongs to New England.
>>53021103
It's a map with all the counties in the US, they're not just random squares.
>>53021080
>georgia in the same region as maryland
>delaware on its own
>>53021080
Disgusting
>>53021128
The problem with CT is that right now, NJ, LI, NYC, and the upstate commuting counties are all independent from each other, so CT would either have to be with that small community, independent, or with New England.
Don't have a justification for Northern NY, just a clash of opinions.
>>53021160
Maryland would be quite poor on it's own, because they're now severed from the rest of the NEC, and DC, no longer being the nations capital, now has no wealth.
Delaware is on it's own because it's a tax haven.
>>53021434
> no idea what to call it
Aztlan.
Also fix the spelling of desert
>>53021434
Hawaii needs to be independent
Cascadia should have all of Oregon and none of Idaho
West Virginia belongs in the South
Mexico, Colorado and Arizona should be their own country
>>53021527
Fuck off, all of that is bullshit.
>>53021508
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Deseret
>>53021508
deseret is what utah territory was called.
All I care about
>>53021434
>New England + New Scotland + New Ireland (Newfoundland) isn't New Britain
Reality
>>53021080
Give northern Florida to Green and/or Blue.
>>53021568
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hawaii
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
>http://www.britannica.com/topic/Southwest-Indian
I mean really bruh
>>53021663
>Reality
>any secessionist faggots getting their way
pick one
>>53021619
This
>>53021080
A H O U S E D I V I D E D
>>53021704
>>53021080
>Colorado's southern boundary not being the Arkansas River
pfffff
This is how the new world should be divided.
>>53021527
That's all dumb, nigger
>>53021775
I refer you to
>>53021679
>>53021762
>English
>Germanic
Do people still believe this meme?
>>53021782
>Cascadia
>wanting mormons
>>53021289
I like that heavily populated areas are independent, but I think CT and LI should be a faction t.bh family
>>53021803
My point is to not include the filthy heretics in the great nation of Cascadia, you abortion.
>>53021782
>Mexico, Colorado and Arizona
Wrong. Even if that was supposed to say New Mexico, only the very southern part of Colorado would be part of it.
>>53021793
The effect of the Normans on the English language is mostly the adoption of loanwords. In most cases they didn't even completely replace the pre-Norman equivalent. Among all non-English speakers, Germans are the ones who have the least trouble learning English.
>>53021836
>Cascadia should have all of Oregon
That's the opposite of what you are saying here.
Also
>Hawaii
>Natives having a say
>>53021859
It's not just the Normans. Modern English is such a mongrel tongue it should be in it's own classification.
The real divisions in American society.
>>53021841
It was meant the say New Mexico, family. And where else would you put Colorado if not with them? The only reason that only the southern part of it is included in that map is because that's the only part with Navajos in it but there are plenty of native populations.
>>53021924
Also
>>53021934
We really don't like New Mexico, We have more in common with Wyoming and Utah.
t. Coloradoan
>>53021888
I'm saying Cascadia should have all of Oregon and none of Idaho. That's what I've been saying the whole time. There are more disgusting Mormons in Idaho than Oregon.
>>53021999
Parts of Oregon have Mormons, parts of Idaho don't. Fuck off with your idiotic all or nothing bullshit.
>>53021992
So you wanna be with the Mormons?
>>53022030
>kek
it wasn't about the Mormons until some autist posted that map. It's about Cascadia having all of Oregon and none of Idaho like in >>53021679
>>53021704
This needs to happen
>>53022033
we already have Mormons here, they spillover from Utah as it is.
It wouldn't change life here.
I could see potentially Colorado/Utah/Wyoming/Montana/East Idaho all being together as one rocky mountain blob. Culture doesn't seem that different between us and i've been to all of those states before.
New Mexico, Arizona and possibly Nevada could be together though.
>>53021704
>>53022077
You're an idiot. This is the actual Cascadia, it includes MORE of Idaho than it does Oregon. Fuck off you idiot, state borders are meaningless straight lines drawn by east coasters.
>>53022099
I agree I guess except for Nevada. The Southern part should be with California and the northern part is better off with the rocky mountain blob.
>>53022115
I find that Maine flag hideous, why is it like that? Also the old man of the mountain is gone...
Also what are those parties supposed to be?
Also why do I care so much about a stupid imaginary map?
>>53022099
>>53022167
give vegas back
>>53022140
>state borders are meaningless
>"I would rather have my country be the shape of an ugly semen stain than a realistic nation"
You must be Serbian
>>53022226
Fair enough
>>53021934
>there are plenty of native populations
Not anymore. Pueblo to Trinidad (Spanish Peaks country) and the San Luis Valley belong with AZ and NM. Everything north of Fountain and Cañon City belongs with Utah and Wyoming, with the Denver/Boulder area being autonomous.
>>53022229
>Cascadia is x so you can't change that
>No Cascaida is y [proof]
>Lel ugly borders
>is literally demanding a box
God you're an idiot. You definitions of "Cascadia" is an ugly rectangle. It will be Portugal 2.0.
>>53021434
pretty good
>>53022209
Because deep down we both know New England should be a sovereign state.
>>53022361
family we've already reached a verdict with colorado
observe:
>>53021992
>>53022033
>>53022099
>>53022167
>>53022226
>>53022292
>>53022421
Sorry. It's late, and I'm stoned.
t. Southern Coloradan
>>53022392
>Criticizing me for saying your proposed borders are ugly
>Unironically saying my proposed borders are ugly in literally the same post
>Megakek
>>53022448
In Oregon right now. Legalization is the shit
>>53021080
>appalachia joining with arkansas and missouri
how about no. If this shit were to happen the deep south would likely be one entity, missouri/arkansas would be questionable but might be included.
>>53022522
My "proposed borders" are the real bioregion as described by biologists. It is the only Cascadia that actually currently exists.
I am however going to call you an idiot for liking rectangles as borders. The bioregion is objectively better looking.
>>53022544
>Legalization is the shit
Especially if you're a 30-something with a job. I don't have time to be hunting for weed, and even less time to be arrested for it.
>AZ and NM unite, grab Las Vegas because why not
>take rightful clay on the gulf of california
>build wall commences
>>53022689
>the real bioregion as described by biologists
Don't know why you think this matters
>the only Cascadia that actually currently exists
It literally doesn't exist though that's the whole thing. If it existed be wouldn't need to discuss it's nonexistent borders
>I am however going to call you an idiot for liking rectangles as borders
I guess most of the borders of the Western USA were designed by idiots
>The bioregion is objectively better looking
like I said, semen stain.
Go back to reddit, newfag
>>53022709
What would be the capital? And what gives them that clay?
>>53021924
What's up with all the tiny yankee areas spread over the country?
>>53022892
A lot of places don't have MLB teams, and the Yankees are so popular and often pretty good so they are kind of the default if you don't have a home team. Same with the Red Sox.
>>53022892
niggers who like them because of New York and regions who don't like baseball defaulting to the most popular team
>>53022874
The US offered to buy that bit of coastline with the Gadsden purchase but Mexico didn't want to lose its land link to the baja peninsula.
A better (untrue) story is that the surveyors mapping the US/Mexico border got thirsty after they left Nogales and realized their next beer would be in Yuma, so they turned northwest and went straight there instead of continuing west and giving us our coastline.
Prescott could be capital in my fantasy world.
>>53022957
>"niggers who like them because of New York"
>Canada pretending to understand Americans
Go back to curling
>>53022834
>designed by idiots
Or by east coasters that didn't give a shit
>It literally doesn't exist
Except it does as a bioregion which you're to dense to understand
>any shape that doesn't have 4 flat sides is a semen stain
You seem to obsessed with cum, disgusting
Clearly you are the newfag.
This is silly, just take an election map by county and give the red to white people and the blue to democraps and niggers.
>>53021114
this
>>53021924
So many random enclaves of Yankees and Red Soc
>>53023108
>The south is white
>The upper midwest and New England are black
>>53023108
>>53023139
>The south is white
Mostly, blacks only make up 13% of the population and a lot of them are spread around the countries major cities
>>The upper midwest and New England are black
Democraps are honorary black people and can have the blue until red takes it from them.
Vermont will probably secede and go purple or red though.
>>53023187
>Vermont
>red
Pfft dear lord you are out of touch with reality.
>>53023229
>vermont is as c.ucked as the rest of the blue country
>very white
>extremely low crime rates
>very progun
Give me one reason they stay with blue country.
>>53023099
>Or by east coasters that didn't give a shit
Maybe, but they are now the established boundaries, and we should necessarily change them based on a bioregion
>Except it does as a bioregion which you're to dense to understand
This is the funniest part. I understand it, but you are incapable of seeing why this doesn't matter. The borders of nations are not based on biology. Look at a map.
>You seem to obsessed with cum, disgusting
Relevant because...?
>Clearly you are the newfag
Kekekekekekek
>>53023282
They elected Bernie fucking Sanders consistently for years. They attempted and failed to created universal health care. They are the least religious part of the country. Lowest crime rates are a blue thing.
>>53023290
>walking meme
You're from /r/4chan
>>53023391
>Lowest crime rates are a blue thing.
haha what?
>>53023391
>>53023436
>>53023436
>>53023465
>>53023391
Just no.
>>53023436
>all democrats are black
>>53023465
Note how if you took out five cities on there, from either end, they would be quite similar.
>>53023488
Urban poverty =/= rural poverty
>>53023488
>Appalachia
LOL I have some family up in the mountains there. They have a huge cultural aversion to go to the cops for things, so lots of violent crime is unreported and handled outside the court. Really they just don't like government at all.
>>53023574
>>all democrats are black
All black cities are democrat
>Note how if you took out five cities on there, from either end, they would be quite similar.
None of the red ones are in the 55 murders per capita end
>They have a huge cultural aversion to go to the cops for things
What are black people
>>53023696
>All black cities are democrat
And all rectangles are squares.
None of the red ones are in the 55 murders per capita end
I said to take out five, and I was wrong. You need to take out six.
>>53023668
The government hates their guts so not really surprised.
>>53023742
Why do I need to take any out?
>>53023786
Because extremes like to skew stats. It's equivalent to cherrypicking. This is honestly the laziest shitposting I've ever seen.
>>53021080
t-thanks for including Washtenaw county
>>53023831
>extremes
>cherrypicking
>red have no murder warzones
>stop cherry picking all these democrat run nigger warzones
>blue obviously equates to low crime when you ignore all the blue areas
>>53023900
I'm not saying take out the top half, I'm saying take out six.
>>53021674
Fuck off, traitor
This will never happen because of sports. Prove me wrong.
>>53021983
>only based on proddy sects
immensely shit map.
>>53023939
Why should I take out any?
>here is some data proving blue is where violence happens
>"well if you remove 6 blue cities it does not look as bad!
The amount of cities has no bearing on the argument, the fact that the only cities that have these gigantic crime rates are blue is the issue and removing a few is not going to change that.
>>53024003
Yes it does. If I take only the towns in Maryland where the blacks are richer than whites, and say that that clearly applies to the entire US, then I'd be wrong, because that's cherrypicking.
>>53024001
>No religion
lol nope
>>53024003
>not all white men with semi automatic weapons are mass shooters and rapist it's only a select few
>I DON'T CARE THAT IT'S ONLY SIX CITIES THE WORST APPLIES TO ALL
>>53024048
then make a map with every major city and show me some red cities anywhere near those black and blue ones.
>>53021434
>West Virginia part of the Great Lakes
>>53024217
75% of the ones in your own chart overlap with the red.
>>53024248
The overlap are mostly white/hispanic cities
Vermont is blue but has low crime because it's pretty racially homogeneous, the blacker the cities get the higher the homicide rate is.
>>53024326
>The overlap are mostly white/hispanic cities
WAIT YOU MEAN TO TELL ME BLACKS COMMIT CRIMES AT A HIGHER RATE THAN WHITES? FOR THE FIRST TIME MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED, AND AT LAST I TRULY SEE.
Lmao we're discussing the red/blue divide, not race shit.
>>53024367
We are discussing both considering a large portion of blue country by county is blue country due to the high black populations in those counties.
I'll admit blue can have low crime but it has to be racially homogeneous and these are small cities, the moment you introduce brownies into a blue area your crime rates will skyrocket.
If blue country would be more like Vermont I would be all over it.
>>53024426
So your entire argument is dems are bad because blacks vote for them? You do realize that they make up less than 25% of our voter share, right?
>>53024471
My argument is that in the occurrence of some sort of balkanization/splitting of the country I would rather be in whiteopia than blue controlled, black filled nigger mad mad ville
I have my disagreements with dems on plenty of issue but as of right now I'm talking about this threads topic kind of.
>>53024560
mad max ville*
>>53024560
so why not just post a map of race instead of red vs blue
>>53024560
Well duh, but thanks to the rectangles aren't all squares argument, you would see that if you split the country by political lines, there are still plenty of places you can go, no matter which side you're on.
>>53024591
Because I think the balkanization would be caused by more than race and the general areas that are already established on both sides of the aisle seem like reasonable estimations of where people will stand on one side or the other.
>>53024620
I guess, I guess dindus really won't spread out among the blue areas just because they are blue areas.
>>53021080
You're autistic
>>53022140
>state borders are meaningless straight lines drawn by east coasters
And Cascadia is a subreddit, not a region
