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>"why yes! My language DOES have genders!"
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>"why yes! My language DOES have genders!"
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english has remnants of it too
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>English pronounciation
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>>52984284
>that amputee

Also, I bet your language doesn't even have dual.
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>>52984284
>My language
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>"My l-languare doesn't difference genders!"
>Still calls a giraffe a she and a lion a him
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>>52984337
such as?
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>No, I don't speak fusional language!
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>>52984729
Both are referred to as 'it' in English tho.
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>>52984780
I don't know if this is a gender remnant but regular items are referred to as "he" and countries "she".
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>>52984780
Blond & blonde, for example
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>hey, where's your bike?
>he's over there
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>>52984780
Little ones such as actor/actress waiter/waitress. That's pretty much it
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>>52984284
>his "language" has neutral "gender"

sjw tier.
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>Die Der Der Die Das Die Den Dem Des Der Die Das Den Die Dem Das Die Die Der Der Die Den Dem Das Den Die Den Die Das Dem Den Dem Die Der Das Die Die Der Den Dem Das
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>>52985616
that would be very useful in literature though, in hypotheses and in theory.
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>>52985449
>using personal pronouns for objects
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>>52985667
friendly reminder that theres literally nothing wrong with that.
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>>52985667
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>>52985616
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_type_of_grammatical_genders
>His language doesn't have a Neutral and a Common gender.
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>>52985616
Latin has neutrum, French only got primitive to be used by the barbarians who live there today.
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>>52985755
But those "Barbarians" -the Franks- DID have a Neuter Gender.
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>>52985709
your mom's an object
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>>52985449
This.

>>52985667
>Look at the leaf, he fell down.
>The Autumn came, she's going to be cold.
>But the winter without snow sounds pretty cool, I don't like him!
>Yeah, she will be mild. I want to go to Austria to ski, will have much fun.
>Oh, I should buy new skis, I fell and one of them completely broke, I can't just replace her.
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>>52984342
Serbo-croatians are the only ones who can win the game of pronunciation.
Not even the Finns have perfect phonemic orthography (they got digraphs)
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>>52985302
And many people tend to break that rule, even native speakers.
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>>52986140
Literally who does that other than zookeepers who know the animals' genders

I'm a native speaker and I don't know anyone who does that.
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>>52985449
Bike is female!
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The language my peoples used for thousands of years was destroyed in under a century. I'm mad about this.
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>>52985834
That's rude and sexist. Hasn't your mother taught you better?
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>>52986086
do explain
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really not trying to be antagonistic but

where is there a situation where

>die katze
is better than
>the cat

why do words need genders? why does "the" need a gender? what is the point?
someone please explain it to me I never understood why languages do this
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>>52986215
>who does that
Ok, want an example, go to /vp/ and ask them what pronoun they rather use for their favorite Pokémon.
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>>52986285
You would understand if you didn't literally speak babby's first foreign language.
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>>52986278
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonemic_orthography#Ideal_phonemic_orthography
Every letter corresponds to a sound, ever sound to a letter. "Piši kao što govoriš, čitaj kako je napisano."
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>>52986285
Sometimes it's useful sometimes it's not. English speakers dont know if "the" author is male or female while. Sure most of the time it doesn't matter but sometimes it does.
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>>52986319
>people use gendered pronouns for Pokémon, and hence I, Alberto Barbosa, know that all of English works this way

Pokémon literally have in-game genders mate, and those that don't clearly should have based on their appearances.
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>>52986417
yes you do, you just refer to the author as him or her or he or she
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>>52986410
you a diaspora?
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>>52986351
I know I'm an English native speaker and I know it sounds rude but please, what do genders do in a language? why is it better than in simple old English? what is it I don't understand?

>>52986417
I see so you're saying it's to do with imparting information? So if someone asks you if your brother or sister did something, you can tell them more easily? I would appreciate another example please.
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>>52986473
What if you talk about the author if you haven't talked about him before? You start no analysis with "he/she/it".
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>>52986426
And I suppose animals don't have genders? Nice one, seriously.

Fucking retard.
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>>52986551
If you've never mentioned them before you will usually refer by their name and you can usually deduce gender that way
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>>52986479
no, just a mate pissed off with English alphabet.
(I took the quote from that article)
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>>52984284
>not having genders
Subhuman, please.
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>>52986490
As the German said, it's about giving out more information in a sentence.
An example:
the sentence "They went shopping."
This tells you that several people went shopping, but not much else.
In Slovene, this same sentence could be written several different ways: for two men, two women, several women or several people (there is no distinction between several men or several men and women).
See the difference?
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>>52986490
It's useful if you have jobs or anything both males and females can do. If you talk about the barber with your friends and you say "the barber was so hot today" you can't directly say if it's a male or female barber.
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>>52984284
shit man i saw those figures irl they look amazing
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>>52986236
how so? I heard something about a third neutral gender being added a while ago.
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>>52986490
Giving genders to the objects and words brings piece of soul in conversation. You, soulless genderless Englishman, won't understand though.
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>>52985347
>>52984780
I don't know this genders shit so does a boat count?
"She's a might looking ship, isn't she?"
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Finnish has a feminine suffix -tar. Taistelijatar>female combatant, etc.
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>his language will never have a grammatical reform
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>>52986671
You can usually deduce what 'they' means from the previous sentence, if not the writer would use 'the men' or 'they women' if a writer just uses 'they' with no further explanation it's to give ambiguity to the sentence
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>>52984284
>2016
>still uses the word 'gender' instead of sex

You do realize the g-word was forced upon the public through the delirious ramblings of a paedophilic psychoanalyst who made little boys pretend to be girls for his amusement?
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>>52986742
Yeah, what I was referring to.

I'm not really sure if that counts as something left over from when English had genders, though.
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>>52986689
A barber is a lad, for lads
A hairdresser is lass, for lasses
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>>52986746
Yeah but it's not really used. Besides I think this thread is about assigning genders to random things which doesn't apply to Finnish nor does it apply in the case of having two versions of "hän" for different sexes and non-humans.
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>>52986792
Grammatical gender is not sociological gender.
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>>52986689
>>52986671
Thanks lads this was a good explanation.

>>52986725
>tfw soulless
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>>52985667

You're fucking autistic, German is the easiest language to learn.
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>>52986792
I'd pretend to be ur little girl.
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>>52986836
I didn't know that. My point still stands though.
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>>52986854
>gender is not gender

this made me chuckle, I don't know why...
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>>52986671
wut? Post this sentence in Slovenian. In Russian it wouldn't be written with genders.
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>>52986931
>what are lexemes
Talking linguistic shit, get hit motherfucker.
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>>52986792
Objects don't have sexes, but they have genders. They're two different things
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>>52986849

Yes, but if you wanted to assign a female gender to a table or something you could say pöydätär which of course is nonsense but understandable nonsense.
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>my language has tenses
yurop confirmed living in the past
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>>52986788
It makes it easier to write or say it when one word can tell you how many people of what sex were doing something in a sentence.
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>tfw animate and inanimate "genders"

t. Basque
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>his language doesn't differ ser/estar
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>>52986965
They went shopping.

two men - Šla sta nakupovat.
three or more men - Šli so nakupovat.

two women - Šli sta nakupovat.
three or more women - Šle so nakupovat.

For a man and a woman (or several men and women), we simply use the male version.
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>>52987012
Which language doesn't have tenses?
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>>52987012
zee zie zoe zum roi motherfucker.
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Even English has "him" and "her" etc so it has genders
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>>52986800
I think the boat one here is keep because of the navy and their stubbornness to change
If you look at actress and actor, they are professions which both when and women can do but if you look at jobs for mainly one gender they don't have a gender E.G. blacksmith, tanner, seamstress, nurse
holy fuck how haven't feminist caught on yet, fuck out language is going to be sexist

>>52987012
>my language has tenses
Your language doesn't have tenses?
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>>52987054
yeah you just say two men or five women, it's not difficult
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>>52987119

literally 3/4 of people on earth speak without tenses
it's not that hard fritz
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>his language DOESN'T have based Ñ
Ha ha ha how can you even communicate.
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>>52987226
E L A B O R A T E
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>>52987166
Our language is bloody sexist. Most languages are bloody sexist (using the feminazi definition of sexist). They've never caught on because they're too preoccupied with other things, like how weighing scales are oppressing them.
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>>52987202
You're so dull. Next you'll want to know why we use dual and say it's useless.
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>his language has a future tense
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>>52987118
ebin
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>my language has non-V2, non-SVO word order
>but that's okay
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>>52987288

>what is every language east of kazakhstan and south of japan
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>his language has no conjugation
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>>52987308
>His language doesn't have 2 future tenses
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>>52987294
you're just butthurt your language isn't as efficient as you think it is
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>>52985903
>all that shit
never in my life have I read or heard someone write or talk like that
they always use it
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>>52987288
We don't have perfect tense. Past perfect, fututre perfect, etc.
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Turkish has been completely gender neutral for centuries. Suck on it SJWs.
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>>52987119
>>52987166
Tense is specifically when the time is marked as part of the verb.

eg. ich bin, ich war
eg. I am, I was

Vietnamese uses time markers, which are separate words.

eg. toi se la, toi la roi

>(error 404: diacritics not found)
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>>52987288
Chinese technically doesn't have tenses, for one. Nearly every language in East Asia doesn't.
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>>52987412
Finnish has been gender neutral for 4 millenia
t. steppe language pro
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>>52987403
Are you stupid or something?
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>>52987341
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TENSES? BUT HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>>52987308
YOU DON'T HAVE A FUTURE TENSE?

>>52987372
YOU HAVE TWO FUTURE TENSES? BUT THERE ONLY ONE FUTURE?

>>52987406
IVAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS A PERFECT TENSE

>>52987483
But how do they then say they're going to do something?
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>>52987377
Well you're good at getting dubs. And efficiency isn't everything because it makes for a dull language.
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>>52987118
>3+ men
Šli

>2 women
Šli

Why?
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>>52986490
example:
I was looking to rent a room at another country, a girl contacted me through whatsapp, she gave me her name, but being a foreign name I didn't know if she was a male or female, in her whatsapp pic she had a family photo, so I couldnt tell, until she said "nosotras", thats us in femenine gender
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>>52987560
they add "hui" before the verb, I believe, it translates as "will", correct me if I'm wrong
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>his language has articles
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>>52987560

Western language is like telling a story. Eastern language is like painting a picture.

English: "I'm a doctor, so when I went looking for an apartment I tried to find one close to the hospital but still nice enough to take a nurse to after work."

Vietnamese: "I do doctor, so when i come here i find apartment must be not only close to hospital and also very pretty so as to bring home nurse after work."
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>>52987588
Just ask:"Hey, you got a poker or a slapper?"
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>>52987562
English has like 1000x the amount of of books, films and history behind it compared to Slovenian and most people consider it a rich and emotive language while being efficient at the time time, it's why people like it so much
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>>52986285
>die katze
>the cat
Kissa is better than either.
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>>52987654

会 means "can" or "know how to." There is a certain particle in Chinese that connotes the verb happening in the past, but it's more about sentence structure than adding sounds like in Western language.

The closest thing Chinese has is adding 了 which means "completed."
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>>52987560
>YOU HAVE TWO FUTURE TENSES? BUT THERE ONLY ONE FUTURE?
In Portuguese you can conjugate verbs in the certain future and in the future that would happen but isn't going to anymore
I think that the German ones are different tho
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>>52987691
rude
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>>52987564
At least in my dialect, we say šle sta instead of šli sta. I don't know about other dialects.

It's not a problem for native speakers.

>>52987727
Big wow, so your language is a lingua franca.
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>>52987560
Past perfect, perfect future. For example: "I have been going" or "I had eaten some shit" or " I would have been looking ". We dont speak like that.
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>>52987682
>His language doesn't differentiate between "a person" and "the person"
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>>52987864
>mfw he is writing in my language right now
top cuck
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Oh,look, that Brit starts butthurting toward his inferior language again.
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>>52987560
>YOU DON'T HAVE A FUTURE TENSE?

things that happen in the future are constructed from present tense

>Huomenna syön puuroa
Huomenna (tomorrow, implies future) syön (I eat, present tense) puuroa (porridge)

If someone wants to emphasize the thing in the future he will use "tulee" which means somewhat the same as "will" but not quite and in most cases using "tulee" makes the sentence sound abnormal at least to my ears.
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>non-agglutinative langages
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>>52987783
yes, I'm aware that 了 can also be used for other thing besides making a verb a past verb, so to speak, but I'm rusty on my chinese
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>>52985475
those are physical genders like saying he and she, not examples of grammatical genders

>>52986742
in danish (and old english), a ship is the neuter gender. it has to be sailor jargon to refer to ships as she.
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>>52987934
Se você quiser a gente pode ter uma discussão em nossas próprias línguas, mas acho mais conveniente discutir numa língua que todos nós sabemos, não é mesmo?
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>>52987956

>things that happen in the future are constructed from present tense
This. English uses "to do" and "to be" as operative verbs to make a lot of tenses possible, idk about other languages
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>>52987998
lo siento, pero espanol es el mejor idioma
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>>52987934
I wouldn't be proud of being monolingual, it's pretty sad.
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>>52987979

>making a verb a past verb
There are no "past verbs" in Eastern language, which is my whole point. They just cut to the chase and say "finished" or "intend to" or some variant thereof when they want to show that something happens in the past or future. That or they just specify when something happens/happened to make it clear.

Mandarin is an incredibly inefficient language partly for this reason, but Vietnamese does it more elegantly in my opinion.
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At least you people don't have to deal with two arbitrary definite articles
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>>52988091
I'm not, but if you can only speak English and Slovenian that is pretty much Monolingual because Slovenian is like the least relevant language in Europe
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>>52987908
you can say like "se tyyppi", which means "that guy", in the meaning of "the guy".
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>>52988170
They can understand like Serbian, Croatian and so on easily
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>>52988103
how you do it?
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>>52987799
So you have a entire tense dedicated to alt history?

>>52987895
>Huomenna
But isn't that a tense right there?

>>52988170
Can you tell I'm monolingual?
>>52988091
Cheers lad, I can barely speak English as it is.

this is real spooky shit guys, why would you do things this way?
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English language is so poor, lads..
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>>52987956
same in hungarian
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>>52988310
like your family, lol
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>>52988280
Oh jezus. You have 2+ past tenses. You can say We did or we had been doind or we have done . In Russian you just say we did and thats it.
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huomenna = tomorrow
same as you'd say in English "Tomorrow I eat porridge", instead of "Tomorrow I WILL eat porridge."
And that's the reason why it's sometimes hard for us Finns to realize when should we be using "will".
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>>52988448
>we be using "will".
lel u dip
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>>52988170
>a native English speaker that isn't monolingual
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>>52988280
>huomenna
no it isn't, it means "tomorrow" and neither word have nothing to do with an exact future tense

for example in English you'll say "I will eat porridge" which means you'll eat porridge some time in the future, in Finnish you'd say "Syön puuroa (add specific time in the future)".
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>his language isn't spoken in AT LEAST three continents

Literally irrelevant LMAO
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>>52988398
Actually, there are only two tenses in the whole of English. Everything else is a combination of auxiliary/modal verbs and participles and shit.
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>>52988310
>>52988383
>Russia experiences Global Warming
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>>52988523
america, europe and?
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>>52986671
>An example: the sentence "They went shopping."

This statement would not be made without prior context as to who 'they' are, as you would not merely say "they went shopping" if the other person had no idea who you were talking about. If you made it gendered, "They(she)" or "they(he)" or whatever it still would provide no information on it's own for you would either already have an idea as to who this they are for you would need to inquire as to what these people were doing to get such a response and thus already know the genders or such of the people involved or you would not and it would tell you nothing for you do not know the relevant information about these people to begin with.
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>>52988523
yours is only spoken in the americas and europe
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>>52988523
>his language is spoken by brown people and a couple of white high schoolers
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>>52988560
Based Equatorial Guinea.
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>>52987139
>still not asking for it btw
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> His language isn't italian or french

it's like if you don't want to have sex
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>>52988620
>Ceuta
>Melilla
>Canary Islands

Also by some in the Philippines
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>>52987308
That's because Finland has no future.
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>>52988244

>teach me chinese in one 4chan post
Honestly you just say it. It's a lot easier than Western language. You'd be surprise how many little specific details a sentence needs to make sense.
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>>52988523
This.
Only relevant languages are English, Spanish, French, Dutch and Portuguese.
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>>52988686
True.
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>>52988232
They're all just dialects of Bosnian.
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>>52988686
>Also by some in the Philippines
lelnope.
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>>52988398
>>52988537
this is beyond me, this is all the technical bullshit that is completely irreverent for native speakers. I think.

>>52988515
So ours is like a general future where as your's is a specific future but not actually a future, like a to-do list?


Guys if I want to learn babies first language what would you recommend?
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>>52984284
>Why yes!

One of the most retarded linguistic constructs ever.
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>>52988784
That's irrelevant for you, but we feel confused which tense should we use in each case.
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>>52986490
there is no point in there being genders. it is just clutter.
definite and indefinite articles are pointless as well.
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>>52988686
so like 5 people?
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>>52988618
>his language is so irrelevant not even brown people use it.
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>>52987287
But mine does.
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>>52988784
And for example we say: I did some job and I feel good (I feel good now). But you due to some mad rule say: I did some job and i FELT nice.
This is also difficult to say some verbs that relate to our present but in the past tense because of the first part of the sentese. It's calles sequence of tenses or smth.
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>>52988879
but that's a good thing you dumb spic
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>>52988620
ironicaly enough, they belong to the comunity of portuguese speaking countries (under the watchful protection of our angolan overlords)
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>>52988879
That's called speaking a language of the elites tbqh.
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>>52988993
They're also part of the Francophonie.
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>>52988865
>84 thousand people in ceuta
>84 thousand people in melilla
>more than 2 million people in canary islands

>5 people
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>>52988958
That's nice.
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>>52989144
aren't those 'people' arabs or something
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>>52988965
So for you tenses are strange because you've never had to use them before?
I guess you could say:"I just went for a run, man I feel great"

>>52989144
Spain, Stop. Your Empire wasn't even that impressive.
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>>52989144
Part of the EU, therefore part of Europe :^)
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>>52988977
>people not using my language is a good thing
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>>52989198
They are ethnic spaniards, so kind of.
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>>52988993
>Angolan overlords
Truly the Alberto Barbosa meme encarnate.
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>>52988784
well English future tense is not an exact future tense either, more fancy linguistic scholars talk about future aspect, but neither definition fit in Finnish because things that happen in future are told in present tense.
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>>52989273
well it is. if undesireables speak your language it means they can move to your cunt far more easily
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>His language is a rape baby
>Is proud of his language
>Doesn't try to purify it
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>>52989421
I'd like to point out that this also applies to you other Norcuck languages.
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I'm glad Spanish is the most spoken language in the world. Don't even need to do the minimum effort to understand it.

Stay mad you cucks
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>>52989421
finnish is pretty pure and virginal m90
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>>52989524
>Spanish is the most spoken language in the world
Portuguese education
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>>52989595
Yeah but you're not Nordic nordic
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>>52989617
Top 1. Don't be a nitpicker you smelly frog.
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>>52989856
>what is Chinese
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>>52989856
>Only 335million for english
>When the population of the US is 318.9 million
>And the population of England is 53 million
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>>52989365
You do have a point there tbqh.
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>His language has past tenses, but no future

>What am I supposed to do
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>>52990001
Live in the now
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daily reminder that 'perfect' tenses in english are retarded and should be abolished.
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>>52987995
well they can call anything a she
cars furniture pens works of art etc
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>>52985449
Must have a sexual tie to call a bike "him"
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>>52989951
Irrelevant in the west.
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>>52990860
>Spanish
>Hindi
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>>52986490
it's useful to build giant sentences with many clauses, without genders you'd loose track of what does what

it gives you additional information that you sometimes don't have in english which is pretty annoying
for example someone mentions her "friend"... fucking great, is it a guy, a girl?
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>>52984342
pronunciation*
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>>52988560
>>52988607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTorY__Z6YQ

OBIANG
A
S
E
D
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>>52990972
I don't even know what language you speak, boi.
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>>52986086
this is true

only thing that is retarded are

>č and ć
>ije and je(croatian)
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>>52987287
>his language has only one soft consonant
Do you even try?
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>>52989476

>lærte meg dansk og norsk
>reiste til scandinavia
>passport is "pas"
>reiste til island
>passport is some 25 letter word

>mfw
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>>52998618
>his language is nothing but soft consonants
Just stop.
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>genders
literally "let's make our language more complicated for no reason and get nothing out of it"
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>his language doesn't have two versions of each verb that both conjugate in all tenses: one for actions in progress and one for completed actions
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>>52998618
>ш, щ

literally why
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>>52999390
You write slightly less that you would if you write an additional t. Plus you save a bit of space.
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>>52987995
>it has to be sailor jargon to refer to ships as she.
we refer to all vehicles as she though, cars are female, so are bicycles
Guns are also female

Actually all items are female come to think of it, an item can either be referred to as 'she' or 'it', some (like ships) are really formalized as female, but others you can do either and nobody will think its odd, but call an item 'he' and people will think you are doing something quite peculiar.
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>>52999494
no, they're literally different sounds in russian, but ever slightly so
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>>52999578
щ was a cч sound in Russian, right?
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>>52986699
Swedish like german has the neuter grammatical gender.
Ie. a table is Neuter, Ett Bord

There's a neutral pronoun that is sometimes used, but very rarely. Hen, as opposed to Han/Hon, where Han is He and Hon is she.

The weird thing is Hen has no equivalent to Honom (him) or Henne ( her ). It's always Hen.
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>>52999703
it is a single palatal sound
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>>52987776
http://tyda.se/search/kissa?lang[0]=en&lang[1]=sv

Finland... what... what are you doing?
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>>52999703
i'll let this discount scarlett johanson explain
I doubt I'd hear the difference in a normal conversation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcgUYYoEloA
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>tfw like how Vietnamese is structured but hate how it sounds
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>>52987560
Same way English and Swedish get away with not having a future tense. You use an aspect instead.

Ie. Instead of "I had" you would say "I did have" just like you would say I will/shall have for the future aspect.

Not that it's have in each case. If you don't conjugate it, it isn't tense.
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>>52999703
«щ» and «cч» are both pronounced like [ʃʲ]. It's an absolutely useless letter.
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The lack of the past perfect continuous in Swedish continually makes me crazy.

Well, they use the past perfect instead for it but in my brain I can't help but view it differently.
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>>53000099
had been doing = var i gang med at
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>>53000171
>I've been working all day.
>Jag har jobbar hela dagen (I think)
It's a slightly different grammatical structure, but it's so close to the english past perfect that it serves as a constant mind fuck.

I can't not read it back into english as "I have worked all day". In one I might still be working, and in the other, I am not.
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>>53000268
>that typo making me look stupid.

Jobbat*
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Wew.
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>>53000423

That doesn't seem right

Danish has en and et, two genders.
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>>53000566
I think it is referring to the whole thing where you can structure nouns differently for human genders, but I don't buy it.

Saying Svenska( swedish woman ) instead of Svensk ( swedish person of any gender ) is not going to change article or verb structure in any way.
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The word "you" should have a plural version. In old English "thee" was singular and "you" was plural.

For instance, when you're out with 3 friends I can ask in my language (Dutch) if everyone wants to go someplace, referring to all of them using the plural form of "you". Or I can ask one friend in particular, using the singular form of "you". In English this isn't possible, when I say "do you want to go to this bar" then it isn't clear whether I mean the entire group or one person in particular.

In every language I know except English there is a singular and plural form of "you".
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>>53000745
its "y'all" in the south and "guys" in the north
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>>53000745
The one good thing about it is not having to worry about the whole 2nd person plural used for one person out of politeness bullshit.
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>>53000745
In English you unfortunately need to use "Everyone" or "You all". "Y'all" in the South, and "Guys" in the north depending on the company.
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>>53000815
Well, it's "you guys" in the north and "you all / yall" in the south. Still using "you". You have to use two words because there is no word for plural/singular you.
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>>53000423
>Ganda
god damn that language must be a pain in the ass
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>>53000895
no, its just "guys" ex. Hey guys, lets leave

also "Y'all" is TECHNICALLY two words, but come on, it really isn't
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>his language doesn't make sjws mad
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>>53001017
>no, its just "guys" ex

German: Gehen Sie zur Party?
English: Are you guys going to the party?

Still using more words. Can't remove the "you" here.
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>>53001224
It's hardly a secret that English is more verbose than most germanic languages.

Frankly sometimes I think I sound like a caveperson when I speak Swedish by comparison. Admittedly I probably do.
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>>53001438
>It's hardly a secret that English is more verbose than most germanic languages.
probably the French influence

French is incredibly verbose, especially with how the word "de" (which means "of" or "from") is inserted literally all over the place.
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>>53001224
You is both singular and plural. "Guys" isn't required.
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>>53001615
in some contexts it is required though
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>lingua sua iudaeos non habet
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>>53001538
I believe this is partly responsible. For a long time grammatical rules from latin were also used or taught and mistakenly taken to be rules in English, leading to greater verbosity in some cases.

The whole thing about not ending a sentence with a preposition comes from latin and there really should be nothing wrong with it in English.

>>53001224
>>53001615
Who all is going to the party? is what I'd be inclined to say.
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>>53001615
My point was, that when you say:
>Are you going to the party?
it isn't clear whether you are talking to one person in particular or to the entire group, while in Dutch, German or French, you can address either one person or multiple people. In order to do this in English, you have to add the word GUYS, making the sentence longer than in other languages.

>Gaan jullie naar het feest?
>Gehen Sie zur Party?
>Are you guys going to the party?
>Allez-vous à la fête?

English clearly has the longest sentence.
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>>53001795
you is plural, thou is singular ;^)
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>>52985449
No one does this unless they really like the bike.

To the point where they give the bike a name and treat it like a pet.
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>>53001795
Some things take more time to express in some languages than other.

More news at 11.

Admittedly most of the time it's shorter in my experience, Swedish has the short way.

Lagom -> Just the right amount, or "just so"
Orkar -> have enough energy (as in to do something)
Omvägen -> The long way round
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>>52998648
>Vegabref
>25 letter word

Lets compare the two
>Vegabref
Literally meaning road/way paper
>Pure Nordic/Germanic

>Pas
>Short for Passport
>Nothing to do with Germanic or Nordic languages so you cannot know what the word means unless someone tells you before hand
C-U-C-K
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>>52986241
Why do you suppose it is the responsibility of the mother to teach manners and decorum?

Sexist.

And besides, maybe he has two dads. You're being exceptionally bigoted right now.
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>>53001693
Romani, ite domum!
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>>53002042
>maybe he has two dads
this is why gays shouldn't be allowed children, who will teach manners?

as males tend to be disgusting, being raised by two males would just create someone super-disgusting
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>>53001759
>The whole thing about not ending a sentence with a preposition
yeah, as a non-anglophone this always confused me, because of how common prepositional phrases are in English (just like in German which has a ton of phrasal verbs, and I assume in other Germanic languages as well), but in Latin languages there is nothing of the sort, any form of agglutiveness whatsoever is pretty much non-existent in Latin languages. So that rule is perfectly natural in French (you'd be hard-pressed to even try to break it), but it's definitely out of the ordinary in English.
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>>53002104
This sounds more like an argument for the elimination of males entirely than the prevention of homosexual marriage.

>>53002116
Indeed. It's all madness I tell you. Madness! The formal means of thinking about English have seemingly destroyed much of what made it great.

Noun composition is so rare in English now :(
In terms of ongoing usage. Whereas in Swedish sometimes I don't know what something is normally called so I just make up a word.

>Didn't know what a measuring cup is called
>Räkningskopp ( counting cup ), good enough. It was understood at least.
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>>53002064
pederi budeš helikopterima
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>>53002248
>This sounds more like an argument for the elimination of males entirely than the prevention of homosexual marriage.

If i had my way we would all be little girls :^)
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>>53001615
That's technically true, but I think only non-Southfags do that. Here it only means singular and yall or you guys is reserved for plural. Or yinz if you're an Ozarks hillbilly.
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>>53002294
Works for me. The only males I know irl are family.
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>>52988726
all pretty useless 2bh
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>>52988507
Hi. I am one of those too.
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>"Why, yes my language doesn't have only male and female, that'd be sexist!!!"
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>>53002267
>faggots you will be helicopters
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