Oh shit
https://youtu.be/_JYWq2XwjOM
>>52850162
Nice Admiral Kuznetsov
>>52850162
>Soviet carrier
>russian planes
>>52851438
This, what the fuck China?
Billion and half people, second largest economy in the world and they can't build a big ship with flat deck?
>>52850162
breddy gud.
Looks like they are progressing well with the training.
>>52851438
Too bad that Russia never expanded/modernized the Su-33 but instead went with the less capable MiG-29.
The J-15 would be what a notional "Su-33M2" would look like, with advanced weapons, AESA and multirole etc.
>>52852215
They are almost finished with their second.
70k tons.
Also,
massive population != ability to create or need to create high tech naval equipment
>>52852215
They are learning to build carriers. Ski-jump carriers are low-risk and very reliable compared to catapult-carriers (fewer things to break down).
Their next carrier is suppossed to have at least a waist catapult in addition to the ski-jump.
>>52852215
The need for it didn't arise until the south Chinese sea dispute
Even the soviets had a limited number of cariers, I thought 2 but I could be wrong
>>52852215
Good thing they aint wasting tax money on unnecessary shit.
>>52857696
USSR only had one, unless you want to count their helicopter carriers. The second one is the unfinished Varyag, which is now operated by China as the Liaoning which is shown in OP's pic and video.
China will get their 2nd carrier soon enough.
>>52857848
And spend it on welfare instead, agreed.
A
>>52857848
Get fucked, you leech
>>52858859
>lithuania
top kek
>>52852215
What's this board's obsession with flat decks? Who cares if it works?
>>52859498
Flat is objectively better
>>52859606
>Lithuania
>>52859725
>Finland
>>52859498
m8 you probably misunderstood me.
I meant flat deck as a place to park your jets and put a runway on, not without ski jump
>>52859606
Ok, the british ski-jump is really bad, as it allows just one plane to take off in a time. The second one needs time to get into the single launch position of the ship, which makes carrier ops slow as shit.
The Russian/Chinese carriers allow for three planes to take off in a rapid succession.
Like in this webm,
>>52850162
one can see that two planes at the forward position of the carrier can take off quickly after another, and the third at the position in the back will take off as soon as the two before him are launched.
Ski jump carriers in general have the advantage that they can launch aircraft quite rapidly at a steady pace, without the need for charging the steam-boilers/capacitors for steam or EM catapults. Lacking flat-deck catapults, they also have fewer things that can break down and need maintenance, overall making them very reliable carriers.
2:12
ocean is so scary ;__;
>>52858859
>lithuania
>calling anyone a leech
>>52859900
I love seeing the people who will be the first to die in WW3 shilling for our interests on the internet.
>>52850162
That mess hall looks extra comfy
>>52860888
Why?
>>52861779
Are there any native Europeans on 4chan?
The mess hall is comfy. Most are on flagships nowadays.
Ocean has huge waves and it's like 6 celsius water. You'd die in 5-10 minutes without gear.
Brb, modding Battlefield 4s chinese aircraft carrier
>>52852215
This is what happens when country is comprised of nothing but small and large zones (read: prison).
Russia (and USSR before it), China and North Korea, only countries in the world that has more concentration and labour (that is aimed at destroying the subject) camps than schools.
>A
>FUCKING
>RAMP
>>52861874
If you're an idiot and sail your ship straight into a strong storm to prove you have "balls of steel", then maybe you'll die.
>>52851438
>>52852215
Nigga, they got it for cheap. If one just started a carrier programme, why wouldn't you buy a half-completed one for cheap price and refurbish it?
>>52861933
What is this? What's happening here?
>mfw the USA is going to have 12 supercarriers by 2020
haha holy shit are you even trying rest of the world
>>52862257
Thank you for spending your tax money on bombing others so that i dont have to.
>>52862225
Corpses from capital punishment convicts getting prepared to be sold to Gunther von Hagens for his Body-Worlds exhibition.
>>52860233
>carrier ops slow as shit
>can launch aircraft quite rapidly
Which is it?
>>52850162
What about it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USuoEH8iF-ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5IoDknuBA
>>52859498
Physics cares. Catapults are objectively more capable.
>>52862930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5IoDknuBA
>>52862930
>>52863019
>that dirty deck
DESIGNATED
SHITTING
CARRIER
>mfw rail guns will create a new golden era of battleships
I'm glad the carrier meme is finally dying
>>52863222
No they won't. You have no clue how railguns work or the fact that they are still vastly outclassed and outranged by missiles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV6iFxd0zoM
>>52862257
>nimitz won't be retired by the time JFK comes out
>>52863348
>>52863398
>>52864063
Probably has a designated shitting deck
>>52865485
POOP DECK
>>52862870
Brit carrier ski-jump is different. Look at this pic and compare it with the setup in the webm of OP.
One single launch position on the QE vs 3 launch positions on the Kutznesov/Liaoning
Though the single launch position has a longer runway than the two shorter of the Chinese carrier. But they also have a long runway amidship.
>>52857696
>The need for it didn't arise until the south Chinese sea dispute
Actually arose after the third strait of taiwan crisis in the 1990s.
The Chinese were humiliated after the USN made them back the fuck off. They have been spending 100s of billions in their navy ever since then.
