>yfw you realize this is the best place on earth to live in
Nah. It's the best place on earth to eat in tho
Sure if you like niggers. Lombardia is very nice though.
WOGS
WE
>>52765671
No, the weather is too hot
if you are a normie
Who the fuck even lives in the north? Vampires?
>>52765765
I've lived in Alicante for 10 years and seen very few black people.
>>52765671
Nah, atlantic northern Spain is best Spain.
>>52765866
If you like to be constipated.
>>52765807
Not all of Spain (and I assumme Italy too) is the Mediterranean Coast/South.
Although this Winter is being total shit, almost no snow.
>>52765887
Wait is this correct? How do you say when you got a flu in English?
>>52765887
I guess you meant have a cold. And I didn't have a cold whatsoever this fall/winter.
>>52765807
It's like it has to, warm in summer, cold in winter
>>52765866
t. Pure Celtic blooded Galician
>>52766072
We are not celtic.
>>52765671
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>52765997
>cold
Tsk I thought nasaly constipated would be correct. :(
For a reason bronchitis is more common in the North of Portugal than South.
>>52766032
This year it's burning hot in summer and warm in winter, and I'm not even from the south, so I assume it's even worse down there
>>52766096
t. Pure moor blooded Andalucían
>>52766072
>Galicia
>Pure anything
Not even their language is pure anymore. Sucks because it was our brother language.
From left to right the Spanish/French coast is filled with old Germans, drunk Dutch kids, niggers and faggy rich people. It gets decent when you enter Italy though.
>>52766241
Galician is a Fucking beautiful language, just about on par with standard Castillian Spanish. Iberia is lucky in that it's home to the best history and language ever.
>>52766192
I'm from the deep galician countryside. I hope you are not an american with a severe case of muh heritagism. If you are you should real history books written by galician historians and not the Wikipedia.
>>52766382
Just jokes. there's another Galician I've seen shitposting about his Galicia's "pure Celtic heritage" and I thought you were him
>>52766463
Never seen him desu, familia.
>>52766509
He was in a thread about bagpipes
Spain is a god tier cunt to live in if you have a decent job.
>>52766379
>Galicia is
You mean "Was". Asspain already took care of diluting their language. Barely 20% of Galicia still speaks original Galician.
>>52766647
No don't lie.
>>52766379
this. only acores beats northwest iberia
>>52766782
>inbreedzores
Don't you have a cousin to fuck bro?
>>52766647
>if you have a decent job
>in spain
that never happened
>>52766382
link these articale you claim it was written by gallicians fellow calaico
How do most non-basque Spanish feel about their independence? Do you Portugal posters care? Just say no desu. Say no the catalacucks too.
>>52765807
agreed
Southern California:
>Mediterranean-type summers
>Warmer-than-Mediterranean winters
>Cozy ass tree-lined avenues
>Far more relaxed atmosphere
>No loud-as-fuck Vespas everywhere
>No Russian tourists
>Every single kind of food imaginable is available for delivery to your front door 24/7
>(TWENTY FOUR/SEVEN)
>Semi-legal marijuana, if that's your thing
>Cheap ass housing
>80% of your activities will be in English
I mean, sure, it might not have all the cultural heritage of Valencia, the Riviera or the Ligurian coast, but that's a small price to pay, all things considered. There's plenty of wannabee Mediterranean architecture and houses that were built in the 20s for you to look at and whatnot if you're homesick.
>>52766867
Eu sou de Matosinhos, mas os acores bate tudo
>>52766705
As someone who grew up in Spain, I can honestly say they were the best years of my life. Then again, this was before the financial wild ride.
t. Inquisitor Mendoza
>>52767051
Southern California:
>brown people
Just like South Europe tbqh.
>>52765671
Somewhere along that route there is a stop-off at Benidorm and let me tell you, that is one of the last places on earth you would hope to live in.
>>52766987
Nova historia de Galicia, editorial Tambre.
>>52767060
Foda-se morcão.
I agree, but not in the cities (expecially naples)
>>52767069
>I can honestly say they were the best years of my life
Sounds like childhood nostalgia. Spain has always been a shithole.
>>52767121
Uh, would I be able to read that without big problems, considering that I speak Portuguese?
>>52767180
Probably, considering I can read portuguese easily.
>>52766382
>galician """"historians""""
>galician intellectuals
>>52767174
Spaniards are also well known as huge self-haters, so we can't really believe in you.
>>52767180
Yes, you're Brazillian which means there is a 2/10 chance you can actually read and comprehend words.
>>52767174
t. self-hating cuck
I still go back for extended periods whenever I can, and it's always as good as I can remember it. Appreciate your country more, Jose.
>>52767051
California is minority white, fuck that.
Also for someone like me who is from the middle of nowhere I couldn't imagine living near that many people, the traffic is insufferable and there is no space to do anything.
>>52767111
>>brown people
In SoCal they're mostly just nice people, desu
>>52767224
Yeah, we had intellectuals and historians before anglo-saxons invaded England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydatius
>>52765671
>south europe
>best place to live
>>52766875
Jokes on you i have one :)
>>52767243
>>52767227
Compared to Norway? You must be fucking kidding. At least if he lived in Uganda...
>>52767051
>Southern California
The ocean is too cold.
>>52767399
t. lonely neet
>>52767460
kek, actually I'm in the office
If you have money yes I agree. Otherwise not really, although it's nice anyway despite self-haters.
>>52767477
t. lonely wageslave
>>52767399
You really should travel and meet people from another countries.
You'll be surprised.
>>52767519
I'm not lonely, though, stop projecting.
>>52767359
Algarve>>Porto>Aveiro/Minho/Braga/etc>Madeira>Alentejo Litotal>Atlantida Perdida>>>Alentejo e outras terras de velhotes>>>>>>>Serra da Estrela>>>>Lisboa
Algarve é top tier.
>>52767399
Norway seems beautiful, rich and all that, but also very cold and... boring.
>>52767575
>algarve
looooooooooooool
>>52767526
I lived in NY for three months, tavelled to Netherlands, Belgium, France and England. Visited England tons of times because my brother and many friends live over there. Spain is a fucking shithole. Said this, I would rather stay here than moving to anywhere.
>>52767399
I love my country above all else, but let's be real. Norway is depressing as fuck most of the year, and there's a reason all our old people escape to Spain as soon as they can. Our cuisine, weather, culture, history, towns etc. are all pretty shit compared to what you'd find in Southern Europe.
>>52767580
I'm from Galicia. Do you think Galicia is not boring? Not as cold as Norway but they have the highest HDI for a reason.
>>52767575
Algarve top tier? Seu pleb Porto? em primeiro lugar do norte? nem conciso levar a serio uma lista assim. Madeira ? é uma merda literalmente sem ser gelados e sangria é um povo de merda e uma ilha de merda. Açores é outra coisa Única no mundo . A única coisa que acertastes foi no Minho. A única coisa que Alentejo tem para oferecer é Évora
>>52767651
>Our cuisine, weather, culture, history, towns etc. are all pretty shit compared to what you'd find in Southern Europe.
Opinions. I have lived in Alicante many years and I find that place depressing. No rain, no forests, extremelly hot, full of foreigners. And for some reason there are tons of norwegians in Alfaz del Pi, the biggest shithole I've ever visited.
>>52767675
Galicia seems like one of the most boring regions of Spain, indeed. I still find it very interesting and would love to visit there.
>>52767526
this.
>>52767477
typical spaniard retard self hater.
>>52767636
I've been in many places too, I even have swiss citizenship but still prefeer Spain. 100% comfy.
>>52767580
>and... boring.
I'm the kind of guy who'll be bored to death living not even 10 minutes away from downtown Oslo, but I can't even begin to imagine how truly fucking awful life is outside of this city. I know it sounds like regular old 'capital city'-arrogance, but aside from Oslo, there's absolutely nothing in this country. Bergen, the second largest city just barely has a 7/Eleven.
>>52765982
congested
>>52767675
You are in the wrong side of Galicia bro, but we still love you guys
![IMG_7664[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jOYimiZ.jpg "IMG_7664[1].jpg")
I wouldn't live anywhere else t'bh, I was lucky to be born in this corner of the world.
>>52767923
nice
>>52767802
I don't hate myself, I don't know where you got this.
>>52767805
And I know a swiss guy that lives in Alicante and he hates Switzerland. He is always drinking gin tonics and he hires his fishing boat to rich tourists. Very nice guy and pretty non germanic in his way of life.
>>52767923
Italy is nice. desu even tho not pure blood i believe most of you are based romans
>>52767813
sorry f.am but its got 4-5 between sandviken, sentrum and uib
enjoy your shit landscape
Cascais > all
Hitler could crush all the manlets of Southern Europe and build new cities for us, but no, the fine man wanted to get the shittiest lands of Europe.
>>52768057
2bh most of the mediterranean already belongs to the germens and brits
>>52768057
Hitler literally was a southern european, religously, culturally and genetically
>>52767636
Thats a pretty incongruent thing to say.
The perfect place to live is always related to the preferences of each own (if for example prefer some other places more green) and Spain is obviously not perfect but its pretty hard to deny its one of the good places to live in the world.
>hurr durr shithole
![IMG_8375[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PlunuUs.jpg "IMG_8375[1].jpg")
>>52768008
nobody actually cares about blood, but we do base our entire society on the vestiges of the Roman and Comuni periods.
>>52768056
enjoy the prectos
>>52768057
>"The Spaniards have not given an inch of terrain. You can hardly imagine more reckless beings. They barely take cover. They look death in the face. I know very well that our men feel very happy when they have the Spaniards as neighbors in their sector."
Even Hitler knew you don't mess with spaniards.
>>52768008
>what are the Gothic Wars
>>52768146
And i extend that to Italy and Portugal
>>52766647
true desu
>>52768184
looks like portugal
where's that?
>>52768201
>prectos being wealthy enough to live here
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. never.
>>52768241
in the summer is packed with them, u can't enjoy the beaches
>>52767683
>A única coisa que Alentejo tem para oferecer é Évora
errado
>Madeira ? é uma merda literalmente sem ser gelados e sangria é um povo de merda e uma ilha de merda
que coisa triste de se ler. que burro.
de resto, sim, algarve é lixo
>>52768286
but they're not from here. they come from sintra amadora etc
>>52768241
that's Brescia, it has a nice historical center.
>>52768057
Inferior omega barbarian. never won a war or build a stable empire. you guys have this horde mentalitty that is equal to niggers and like such are only good to fuck or labbor
>>52768321
true..
>>52767813
You need a city to be amused? Don't you have hobbies or do they consist of going to overpriced cafes and movies?
i just want to live in the norwegian woods and listen to burzum
>>52768146
I like Spain but I reckon it's a shithole full of corruption and incompetence. Also, the recent elections show that this country is going to be ungovernable. I don't know why you can't enjoy something and at the same time see all its flaws.
>>52768235
what are you implyng?
>>52768405
Italia was vastly depopulated through those wars, thus Italians are not descendants of Romans.
>>52768290
triste e ! mas eu ja estive la muitas vezes e digo isto ate irl. são uns merdas. pedofilia e negocio todos os dias la
>>52768466
how do you think it became repopulated? fyi italy has some of the purest blood in the world. google that shit.
>>52768385
t. never lived outside of a city
>>52768478
isso é literalmente o resto de portugal
>>52767069
Fuck off rubius
>>52768558
By Germanic peoples ie Lombards/Langobards
>not Romans
>>52768466
What actually made Rome special was it's patrician class.
Apart from being very disciplined and hard-working, the plebs were the same as everyone else's.
And I'll give you that, the Roman patrician class is long gone
>>52768627
Italians are not Germanic, fuck off with this stormfront bullshit please.
>>52768627
wrong. lmao did you even do some basic research to claim that?
>>52768653
>patrician class
dafuck are you talking about. by the end of the republic the patrician-pleasantry distinction meant nothing
>>52768744
Exactly.
>>52768627
The genetic distance between northern italians and germans is bigger than between spaniards in general and germans. They are romans.
>>52768146
The north of Spain is really green. I visited Cantabria once and it was lovely
>>52768755
empire >>>>> republic
>>52768396
So you only can enjoy something flawless? I have bad news since all places have their good share of shit.
But i agree one of the worst things about Spain is their politics.
>>52768612
tas todo fudido. Prova isso ou vai-te fuder seu neet de merda. Madeira e facilmente provado devido a todos os escândalos, turismo sexual britânico etc . Em Portugal sem ser os casos comuns a todos os países não e nem nunca vai ser o que a madeira é
>>52768682
>>52768675
>>52768653
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_War_%28535%E2%80%93554%29
>By the end of the conflict Italy was devastated and considerably depopulated. As a consequence, the victorious Byzantines found themselves unable to resist the invasion of the Lombards in 568, which resulted in the loss of large parts of the Italian peninsula.
>Being born in Languedoc
>yes
>>52768821
yeah i love north of Spain and go there as much as i can, but the good jobs in my sector are in Madrid and maybe Barcelona.
>>52768612
I have, but the guy said there's nothing outside Oslo
Our biggest city has 500k inhabitants
>>52765807
Based Jean tells it straight.
>>52768827
Pleb.
>>52768881
My argument is that on top of that, you still have the fact that the Patricians (who basically built Rome and developed Roman culture and imprinted it on the plebs) are long gone anyway.
>>52768881
i know what the gothic wars are. i know what the lombards are. it is you who is the complete idiot here and has no idea how italy became repopulated. lombards were a minuscule part of of peoples that settled in italy, and if you knew anything, you'd knew they eventually left. learn basic history instead of spouting wikipedia articles.
modern dna testing tells us italians have some of the most untainted and purest dna in europe.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/science/13visual.html?_r=1
look at how isolated ita1 is. literally the only other genetic island besides finns.
>>52769067
>muh democracy
nem sequer funcionava, era super ineficiente. foi a partir do império que começaram as grandes conquistas e a grande presença cultural de roma no resto do mundo. literalmente melhor em todos os aspectos.
>>52769101
Why do you have to be so agressive and impolite to him?
He's actually being fairly nice for an American, come on dude we aren't like that, you can make your point without being rude..
ITT ciganos a discutirem quem descende mais de D. Afonso Henriques
Algarve>all
>>52768881
>a change in the ruling class means the entirety of the population was replaced
stop derailing the thread with these retarded arguments.
>>52769150
In 400 years of Empire you had 5 Good Emperors.
>muh democracy
Rome was NOT a democracy, it's political system was perfectly designed to allow a sort of Ancient world Laissez faire for the Patricians to do their job, always moderated in the framework of their love for Rome.
It was perfect.
>>52769184
porque ele tá a ser burro e a literalmente dizer merda a armar-se em esperto. também já tive a mesma teoria e não me pus a postar como um imbecil, fiz a minha pesquisa e percebi como as coisas verdadeiramente são.
tl;dr: odeio gente burra
>>52769283
>5 Good Emperors
amazing**
the rest were either good or decent until the tetrarchy
>>52769202
>Afonso Henriques
He was half castilian half frog, though.
>>52769285
Meu eu também detesto muita coisa mas demonstrar verbalmente a frustração, isso é para povos inferiores. Tenta ser comedido, distante e frio nos argumentos, resulta melhor. Não demonstres emoções que só te prejudica porque os outros podem explorar.
>>52769326
exactly
>>52769322
Agree to disagree tbqhwy, I think Rome peaked in the Late Republic
>>52769285
I'm not shit talking or posting like an imbecile. You can "hate stupid people", but I am not one of them. I can speak Spanish as a second language and read Portuguese by extension, self taught. Portuguese looks great written, but spoken is less than beautiful.
Anyway, listen to your calm-minded friend here >>52769480
Regardless, your tenacity would be more useful on the anons that insist you are Berber because of ~800 years of Muslims in the ruling class of Iberia.
>>52769881
but berbers do share quite some genetics with us due to mass migrations during the ice ages.
for example, the guanches, which were a genetic isolated population descended from the berbers in the canaries since the ice ages and had white skin, blue eyes and blond hair, were quite close genetically to us hispanics.
there's no denying: hispanics are quite related to the berbers, much more so than berbers to arabs in fact.
>>52769988
Hispanic is a cultural, and, when used in Europe, ethno-nationalistic term since 1500 when Spain took for itself the name of Hispania, we are Iberian, not Hispanic.
Heck even the Portuguese in the US objected to the term hispanic.
>>52765671
Why all these threads about South-European countries?
>>52770070
i prefer the term hispanic only because i like the word hispania more than the word iberia, but yes culture has evolved and the word "spain" does not mean what it meant in the middle ages anymore. which is a shame, really, we are descendents of hispanics culturally too
>>52770070
>Heck even the Portuguese in the US objected to the term hispanic.
That's because, in the US, hispanic = spanish speakers or of latino/spanish descent, no? We Brazilians aren't called "hispanics" by the US government because of that.
>>52769988
proof?
>>52770152
Still I'm quite happy about it :3
>>52770152
we relevant now nigga
Nice is pretty nice
>>52770216
Tell than to Aviv, anon.
>>52770172
Well, a blow to us that Spain dealt was appropriating the name of Hispania for itself.
Honestly, I'm fine either way, but you must understand that when used in the context of the Old World, and outside of Antiquity, Hispanic also carries a nationalistic tone that does not apply to us.
Maybe petition Spain to change it's name to Iberia so you can call yourself Hispanic if you really want lel
>>52770191
I'm pretty sure Spaniards are Hispanic too, the way it should be.
>>52769326
I know that. What about it?
>>52770193
i'm speaking from memory but iirc if you google the genetics of the guanches you will find some interesting stuff out there.
>>52770193
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_North_Africa
just a quick (really quick) search but this is an interesting read nonetheless
>>52766647
Same as Portugal desu senpai
>>52770635
In the larger cities I might give you that but outside of those Spain is considerably better.
European countries are rich countries with pockets of poverty, we're a poor country with pockets of wealth.
I realize that the majority of posters from out cunt here lead pretty much a normal life in terms of quality and services and wealth, but we have a lot of inequality.
>>52765866
Yeah, I love Northern Spain.... I always doubted you were fellow Celts, until I visited.
>>52770841
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britonia
>>52767113
Yeah, Low class English are worse than Brown people there.
>>52770737
There are plenty of wealthy people living in the country side, those old folks simply won't spend their money. They rather die and let their kids have it.
But I agree with what you are saying generally most people is poor here. But with a good job, and by good I mean "1000€ good" you can afford a lot and still save a bit. We have weather and safety. Our health system is going to shit such as our education system. But if you have money there are always the private company options.
TL;DR: Poor people don't have money.
>>52766096
Would be interesting to know where we come from and why are we more closed to galians than greeks, for example.
>>52770933
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britonia
There's a theory, Colin Renfew I think, who suggests there was an Atlantic trade route, and many of the coastal standing stones were trade markers.... He also suggests that Native languages of that period were similar.... it's possible that Basque was one form of spoken language all over the west, and after that, Celtic Languages.
>>52771080
what's a galian?
Is it really? I never noticed.
>>52771109
i know for a fact that the phoenicians who settled in hispania used a similar route to trade with britannia
>>52771199
That is true, tended to get Tin from Cornwall
>>52771143
I wanted to make reference to people from Wales. People from Britain have a lot in common to people from the North of Spain.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/celts-descended-from-spanish-fishermen-study-finds-416727.html
And the R1b proportion is even biggests in South Spain than the north because we took out non-crhistian people after the Reconquista.
>>52772711
the term is welsh, or gaelish, not galian.
como é que vocês dizem? nós dizemos "galês". "país de gales".
>>52772805
Nosotros decimos "galeses".
>>52765671
It's actually not. It's super overrated. People are lazy incompetent and in general careless about their environment, city and such. Beaurocracy is slow and public officials can be easily bribed. Whol judiciary is a massive joke , laws are arbitrary and you are literally at the mercy of cops and judges. We all know how these wops handled Amanda Knox.
>>52773211
>Amanda Knox
would totally do her tbqh
>>52773311
nice trips
>>52772958
gracias, não sabia
>>52773211
>laws are arbitrary and you are literally at the mercy of cops and judges.
that's rich coming from an anglo country.
>>52769659
you're right
only overly romantic mongs think the Empire contributed much aside from stability and more land
nearly all the roman authors of note were from the Republican/Julio-Caludian eras, as did most of the technology or social ideas which would last for 500 years.
>>52773211
>be american
>get shot
>>52777784
>be brazilian
>live in favelas
>>52778258
>live in the favelas
>fuck 3 girls at the same time while listening to funk carioca
>>52778365
>fuck 3 girls at the same time while listening to funk carioca
>get aids from that nasty skanks and die
>>52765671
>He doesn't want to visit Santorini
Muh Latin heritage
>>52778423
>get aids from that nasty skanks and die
>go to brazilian heaven where you can get all the bunda in the universe
>>52773211
>i don't understand how a more complex juridical system wroks
>hurr durr laws are arbitrary
btw if Knox was able to return to USA safe and sound it's only thanks to the over caomplicated and slow as fuck italian justice
