There is no such thing as "European" - there is only truly NATIVE European, and everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170
"In human genetics, Haplogroup I-M170 is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. I-M170 is predominantly a European haplogroup and it is considered as the only native European Haplogroup.[1]"
"The haplogroup reaches its maximum frequency in the Dinaric Alps (with the highest concentration in present-day Bosnia and Herzegovina)."
Interesting fact: the Dinaric Alps cover a region where the tallest human height average can be found spread out.
Dinaric Alps:
Male: 185.6 cm (6 ft 1 in)
Female: 171.1 cm (5 ft 7 1⁄2 in)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Average_height_around_the_world
>>52745208
Interesting. I wonder if they look like Scandis in the Dinaric Alps
>Y-DNA
>2006+almost 10
Nowadays it's all about autosomal, and the more WHG (first sapiens here arriving about 40000 years ago) you have, the more Euro you are (or if you want to extend it, go for Neanderthal - been here for a million or so years - but I doubt there are any individual samples out there scoring more than 5%)
Also Dinaric Maymays are a meme, I know a lot of Yugos and they're all relatively short on average (1.70-1.80m), and mostly have jet black hair too (and no I don't mean gyppos)
>>52745595
interestingly they are both the highest people according to world national average
also I did see some scandis having elongated dinaric faces, like that guy from babe the pig.
>>52745651
You know a lot of /ex-yu/s and I live my whole life among them. People are getting taller here, and I'm seeing kids now, 190cm+ at the age of 16, it's absurd and becoming more frequent. Our people are pretty tall. The Yugos you might get are also from other parts (since the Dinaric Alps height doesn't count for entire countries in the former Yugoslavia region)
>>52745595
We don't. Mesomorphs, tall, prominent aquiline noses, sharp and impeccable to retracted jaws, hairy as hell (I see mustache in 18 year olds), narrow head, colours ranging from extreme tan to pinkish, all depending on the season, brown to jet black hair, light to dark brown eyes, green ones are more prominent than blue, in terms of "other" category of eye colour...
Just take Novak Đoković. He's the apex Dinaric, the template to create these
>>52745896
>brown skin
>black hair
>germanic nose
What race is this?
>>52745651
>Also Dinaric Maymays are a meme, I know a lot of Yugos and they're all relatively short on average
yeah, no
>>52745841
>self-reported
why are those statistics in any way taken seriously
>>52745984
didn't mean dinaric alps btw
>>52745896
I'm not saying your diaspora is super manlet by European standards, but a bit shorter than our native average I'd say.
Was in Dalmatia though in August and there the natives were indeed about our average (young people mostly between 1.80 and 1.90)
>>52745984
idk, maybe if they would measure them it could come out that the whole scandis are tall is just a meme.
>>52745979
It's a thinly settled area making up like <1% of the whole Balkanic population, i.e. cherrypicking
>>52746025
I am a diaspora, when I come home I am standard with 1,90m ... here I feel almost like Gulliver.
>>52746058
>i.e. cherrypicking
being butthurt over reported statistics >>52745841
>>52745977
>>52745979
>>52745984
>>52746012
>>52746025
>>52746034
Just remember, when someone says "Dinaric Alps height", they primarily mean the region of south Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro and old Serbia. So: Dalmatia, Montenegro, Herzegovina and "Raška". That highland region is where the tall average spikes. The rest are around 180-181cm average
Have another, more pale Dinaric...although it's a fortune wheel. We tend to be darker
>>52745977
Meds
>>52746076
Where from, in Bosnia?
Or another Dinaric. He has a stereotypical surname present in my region
>>52745208
>mfw from the Dinaric alps and 6'3"
>tfw sardinian masterrace
>>52746170
>Have another, more pale Dinaric...although it's a fortune wheel. We tend to be darker
Hard to say tend, in my family I have mediterreanan to norse looking kin. even in close family, brothers and sisters. you are right though with eyes colour, most people have green eyes.
>>52746076
I'm 1.90 too, and I'm only slightly above-average among my friends, shortest of the "clique" is 1.80, tallest villager 2.10. One Serbian guy I know here is 1.93 though, he's married to a female native villager the same height (she's extremely rare with that though)
>>52746161
I wish we did regional sampling too and I also wish we'd exclude manlet T*rks, South Italians, Greeks... and other immigrants, to get a clearer picture
>>52746034
It's not a meme Tbh. I'm only 1.80cm (5'11), and people tend to be taller than me
>>52746207
Esteemed racialists say we are a mix of Nordic people and "Armenoids", although I couldn't tell you a thing about it, my negro. These people must have been "scientifically" "confused" about how can a brown "race" of people have sharp features like the northmen?
And Dado Pršo, another Dinaric, from north Dalmatia. He used to be one of my favourite players
Amongst Serbs, this is the most average serbian face you will find. Depending on region there are differences of course, but this is somehow the most distinctly "serbian" one.
>>52746415
aswell as types of this
I am now led to believe that there's only tall handsome lads in the Balkans. Why is all of your diaspora downsy looking manlets if this is the case?
>>52746235
I look like everything from France to Iran. When I grow a beard, I look like a king of Akkad...or how my mates call me when I don't use a razor for a week: "Paša". And another one of my mates has absurdly blond hair and almost grey eyes, with damn blond chest hair...Oscillations are common here but I wouldn't be carried away as to say we're that much diverse. There are villages here, and more often in Bosnia, where you can find these sorts of people. Literally a village full of blondies, like you arrived in Norway or Sweden...and in the next village, unibrow galore
Ivan Šarić, a TV host. Village near mine...Now, to illustrate what three months of summer does to Dinaric people, see pic related. This is THE template for tan here
>>52746325
I'm a bit into anthroautism - Balkanites are mostly Dinarid phenotype (pointy nose being the most prominent characteristic) - mixed with other types here and there
>>52746523
poor people tend move in larger number than wealthier one, and poor people because of the situation they endured are not always the pretiest or talles.
I have come to notice, that people of similar social background tend to look similar. not that we don't have manlets, of course we do, also ugly people, and darker people and exotic people. but those are not the distinctive features of croats, serbs, etc., more features you will find in every nation, at least every nation in our regional part of europe.
Also like every /int-fag we do tend to cherry-pick
>>52746550
This is more like I'd expect from my own experiences.
>Germanic master race
>Slavs are subhumas
>Germanics are slavs
w-what are w-we
>>52746644
WHERE'S THE PROOF
>>52746550
dinarid is curved nose?
Smells like turkey rapebaby to me
>>52746523
Not everyone is tall, tanned and sexy here, of course, but the average is taller. Keep that in mind as that's the point of this. You western and northern Europeans get "Yugos", but where are these "Yugos" from? North Croatia is much more pale, these people have a much greater chance to have fair features, but are shorter on average. They differ from us and even an unexperienced eye can notice this
>>52746644
Kek
/int/ FAILS AT UNDERSTANDING Y DNA AND GENETICS AGAIN!!!!
I feel so special knowing I am smarter than all you autistic faggots
>>52746678
south serbs
>>52746707
I think they've always been like that. Autosomal DNA doesn't put them very close to Durks. Balkans can be seen as an intermediate/transitional region between Central Europe and Levant/Greece just as it should be
>>52746795
fugg off Seselj
>>52746762
>I am so smart
But can you build a boat? A car? Or are you limited to tell when a human is brown and white?
>>52746801
Here is a better map that compares modern populations to ancient ones
I have a thin pointing up nose, what does that make me?
If I had to pick a typical Dinarid which I encounter the most (from a Serb ethnicity) than it would be this actor. That kind of face is very often encountered.
>>52746851
And here is an updated map only with ancient populations
>>52746622
As this one says.
Here's a map where you'll certainly find "Dinaric" people. For those living in Serbia/Bosnia, you will know where in Serbia/Bosnia precisely, so don't take this map to heart
>this reminds me of stormfag threads
here a some national averages of a variety of faces you will find in our region, now in this case serbia.
WE WUZ WHITE N SHIIIIIIIIIET
for real tho:
>blue eyes
>blond hair
>pink nips
>can drink milk
>straight nose
>go pink in the sun
now something about me that isnt white
>slightly short and stocky build, 180cm, slightly shorter then average but very wide, wider then most doors
I am the whitest poster on this board lmao dood
doesnt help the fact I might an hero soon so what's the point anyway?
>>52746877
I think of Gotovina or Višnjić, kek. These two have the quintessential nose...
>>52747067
>>52747075
No one said that Dinarics were/are white (n shiet). We are a tall....version of Mexicans. We are the Mexicans of ex-Yu, the terroni of ex-Yu, the Bavarians of Germany, the Marseilles of France, the London of the U.K, the Malmo of Sweden, the Andalusia of Spain, the Kurdey of Turkey
>>52747107
>>52746034
Not a meme. The measured average male height (ages 20-29) in Sweden is 181.5cm, and that's with decades of importing manlets from the rest of the world.
>>52747107
>tfw army still use a 80 years old wooden gun
serbia confirmed as white as mozambique
>>52747244
>>52746290
I know it isn't, just mindless banter.
however interestingly enough that haplogroup-I corresponds with the over-average height both with your people and ours. what is even more interesting however is that the Cro-Magnon in Bichon in Switzerland was of Haplogroup I2a, thus concluding that the original Haplogroup I carriers were the Cromagnons that settled Europe, these tend to be around 180 - 195cm in height and with a more robust frame than modern human average, according to the bone structures the archeologists found.
>>52747392
seriously who gives a shit tho? I mean unless you are a biologist or some such, why do you even know so much about that?
>>52747274
what is your problem? also why do you use a serbian proxy if you are obviously not a serbian nor from serbia?
>>52745977
Yugo mutt. Everyone has raped their way through the Balkans at one time or another. They get their Germanic features from the Goths (believed to have come from Götaland) who killed all the men and raped all the women in the area around the time of the fall of Rome.
>>52747474
>why do you even know so much about that?
I tend to read.
>seriously who gives a shit tho?
why are you in a thread if your only contribution is provocation, isn't your time more valuable to be spent on at least a discussion about some subject of your interest than on provocation?
>>52747508
cool senpai
Need to sleep, lads, damn it...
Finally found some people interested in racialist things beyond haplomaps (subraces 'n shiet)...
I don't think it's a coincidence that this region: >>52746928 has that high of an amount of: >>52745208 and those characteristics. I will end my posts with one decisive autistic blow: Greeks have described Illyrians to fit this description to a T. "Endurable, tall, swarthy, hairy, prominent noses, rugged, hardened bodies by scarce opportunities of agriculture" but in Greek style "not as smart and courageous as the fair Greek!!!!!". Also, some dozens of skeletons analyzed too...
>>52747480
I am a serb tho, been my whole life, at least 10 generations back, without a single ancestor that I know outside. I just think that we need to upgrade the wooden weapons. And everything else.
It is like Celtic and Sami people's don't exist.
What about me? I'm from north Croatia. I'm 190cm, blonde, blue eyes and ginger beard. Summer sun is killing me. What the fug am I?
>>52747508
In the time of the fall of Rome, there were no Slavs in that region. We are genetically more pure due to our highland characteristics and extremly strict tradition of not intermarrying with non-slavs than any scandinavian nation ever was or will ever be. just the fact that the whole scandinavian population was breed upon enslaving of women of various populations and bringing them back to create progeny, makes your nations extremly mongrelised in comparison to others
>>52746865
Thracian perhaps.
>>52747508
the rapes have to be a meme..
first of all about romans and germans, it was the other way around, slav tribes descended into balkans and just wiped out everything, byzantium gave up on the area
also serbian empire had a tiny number of german mercenaries, and they were all soldiers, there were no citizenry, at least not in serbia
next we have turks, serbia had huge autonomy, its own courts, and serbian language was acceptable in the empire's courts for self defense
serbs did some armed service and payed some taxes, they didnt mix with turks at all, after serbian knights repelled turks, serbian last emperor married his daughter to sultan and we became a vassal state with autonomy and stuff
>>52747714
I forgot to add.
Me on the right.
>>52747714
No, he probably a direct descendant of the Mycenaean greeks, who were indo europeans that introduced the pantheon and language to the region
>from Mostar
>pale skin on winters, olive skin on summers
>very hairy
>dark features
>sharp chin and long head
but
>only 1.78m
why
>>52747619
>slave mongrels spreading filthy lies about themselves and others
As expected of your kind. Scandinavia is the least mixed part of Europe and the area from southern Germany down through the Balkans and Italy is the most. You're one big melting pot in which no distinct features remain.
>>52747619
>We are genetically more pure due to our highland characteristics and extremly strict tradition of not intermarrying with non-slavs than any scandinavian nation ever was or will ever be
this is most definitely bait
>>52747557
It was pretty interesting tbH.
>>52747767
>byzantium gave up on the area
When most people speak of the Roman Empire, they don't mean Byzantium. They may include the time when the empire was split and essentially functioning as two separate states with somewhat friendly relations, but they definitely consider anything after the fall of the western Roman empire to be "not Rome".
>>52747851
non-whites are usually manlets
>>52748104
But i am from a core Dinaric region god dammit.
God has cursed me for moving to Sweden.
>>52748045
well it is true to some degree because of the following:
most of serbia is mountains, and most of population is scattered in remote villages that are kinda hard to access and useless to armies
also most of serbia simply packed their shit and left for hungary to serve as some sort of border guard/buffer zone duty once serbia proper fell, and then this region (belgrade and everything north of it) returned to serbia
serbia wasnt some huge valley where everyone hanged out, most of the people either lived in mountain villages or escaped and did mercenary work
>>52748242
Norway share these characteristics and are thousands of miles away from raping and pillaging turks. You are incredibly delusional if you think this is the case, I am actually speechless.
>>52748160
Then maybe you should go back to your own country?
>>52748313
>raping and pillaging turks
explain all the blond and blue eyed people around here then
explain what the hell would an army loot in a bunch of distant and remote villages far away from towns and things
explain how was all of serbia raped when 1/2 of serbian population today lives in voivodina, area that never even fell to the turks and wasnt even serbia back then
>>52748529
>explain all the blond and blue eyed people around here then
ancient macedonians
serbs, croats and the rest of you baltics are all the same and a blight upon the entire continent. a bunch of t*rkish rape babies thats what you are.
