Can't wait for European Federation.
This whole concept of so called national states is so outdated and disgusting.
>>52716531
>This whole concept of so called national states is so outdated and disgusting.
agreed
look the most succesful state of XX century - USA, it's anything but national state
Also, shilling kremlin agents not allowed
>>52716606
I do support a federal Europe but Europe is much more culturally diverse in terms of cultures so it would be much harder to succeed.
>inb4 amerilards saying the difference between California and Nebraska is the bigger than Norway and Greece.
>>52716728
Give me unlimited power and in less than 30 years, all of the EU would consider themselves European and speak French.
>>52716728
this.
I'm for a federal europe but also understand it's something that might take decades and maybe even a century to accomplish.
I support an Europe as a country.
>>52716728
christ i talked to some burgers once
they actually think that their regions develop distinct "cultures" on par with nations of Europe ...
how america can have so utterly stupid citizens and succeed?
Just wondering, but why no Fingolia? I can understand leaving out some of them but the Great Mongol Khanate of Finland should at least be a honorary EF member imo
If your history is anything to draw on, you'd annihilate each other before a Federation happened.
>>52716843
>all of the EU would consider themselves European and speak French.
*English
>>52716932
The only thing preventing this is the proximity of occupying US troops and, to a lesser extent, NATO.
>>52716940
>speaking english after UK pulls out
>>52716843
Sounds nice, godspeed my European brother.
Sorosoids the thread.
>>52716531
>Lithuania
>Praising an European Federation
As if you didn't like sucking enough German dicks already, now you want to be unable to pull out of it?
>>52716991
>implying English is not the most widespread language in Europe no matter if UK is included or not
I never even learned French, almost no one here learns French in school and even if, English is the most important anyway
> living on their money
> facing your commieblocks so you can troll non eu slavs
> whining about eu like a big guys
>>52717089
Better German dick than Russian dick my Japanese friend. The EU helps the eastern countries by pumping a shitload of money to us.
>poor people wanting to federalise
no fuck off
>>52717089
but Germany will cease to exist
>>52717149
I'd make you learn that.
>>52716531
The Federation of Cuck States. Enjoy your new extremely liberal German leadership.
>>52717089
Says a country that still sucks the dick of their conquerors.
>>52717218
t. Ahmed Al-Britani
>>52716897
>different burger joints represent different cukltures
>>52717202
> Jews trying to boycott the wellbeing of Europe.
I wonder why...
![20110312_ldp001[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AlMHf2s.jpg "20110312_ldp001[1].jpg")
>>52716531
T-thanks
>>52717202
in 50 years Eastern Europe will be richer than Western Europe
also no matter if you are rich or not, your tiny nation state is pointless and can't survive
>>52717202
Minimum 1500 euros European wage soon, fellon Zabeen.
>>52716531
>European Federation.
you do realize that the base for a European Federation are nations?
>>52717169
Technically that is more helping the Germans and the French fund their exports than it is helping you.
>>52717204
>Nationalism/regionalism will cease to exist
Quite the hopeful one, aren't you?
>>52717262
my family didn't work for centuries so I could spend it on plebs instead of nice cars and sit on my butt
>>52717321
Not necessarily, Germany is a federation of 16 states as well.
>>52716531
the concept of federal europe disgusts me.
>>52717303
If eastern europe could get it's shit together, it's possible. Eastern europeans have a better work ethic than us western europeans.
Some of our working class are scum and think that they can live off the state, and are so lazy when it comes to work.
France is always on strike
Spainish too strike a lot
>portugal
Italians are plain incompetent
>t. merkelis
>>52717303
>>52717304
lmao
only thing I'd support is north western Union, fuck the EU
>>52717229
sucking the blood out of the US pretending to be their friends, yeah. Too bad China took over that role.
>>52717393
But it's impossible because we don't have capital.
Work ethics no longer means anything.
This is why I made decision not to have children. Why should loser nation continue? Western europeans are our betters and natural inheritors of your lands, please use it wisely.
>>52716531
Remove denbt land
Add Swiss, the UK and the Nord.
>Kaliningrad
How will you manage that one?
>>52717496
You didn't make any decision, retard. It's women that made the decision not to have sex with you.
>>52717496
>Why should loser nation continue? Western europeans are our betters
cuckold pls go away
>>52717561
>implying
Even if, used wife comes cheap in ISIS land, even you could afford one.
>unironically supporting EU
Bismarck was right when he said that Europe is but a geographical term. It's the name of the battlefield on which peoples of Europe fought against one another for the very existence of their countries. Trying to dismantle something that was fought for so dearly is tantamount to sacrilege.
Not to mention what a bureucratic travesty the EU has become and aims to become.
>this cuckold thread
>>52717613
>It's the name of the battlefield on which peoples of Europe fought against one another for the very existence of their countries.
For most of the history, they were fighting for their city, because king forced them to or for gold. Nations only started to form during the age of enlightement.
>>52717755
They still fought for it. Religion, gold, language, ethnics, what have you.
>>52717207
why the fuck learn French when 1/3 of Europe already speak English? are you some frenchboo or something? fuck off French is literally pointless
https://telegram.me/joinchat/CFnQZwOhFSDMZTfTOm61Tw
JOIN NOW=PROFIT IN LIFE
>>52717393
it's not about work ethics
it's about geopolitics
Western Europe is rich mainly because it accumulated wealth and influence from Age of Discovery - you had a direct access to the seas , you could dominate trade and so global economy, now though Atlantic powers are not dominating the world anymore, China is already(or will be in few years, it depends on measures) larger economical area than Western Europe and will keep growing faster than it. China will be the next centre of the global economy, and we have a better access to it with Silk Road 2.0. Chinese plan Poland to be their European terminal. >>52717303
>>52717755
this is a myth, while nation identity wasn't so developed back then, especially among the lower classes, it was still prevalent
Vomitive. All these servile people wanting to suck eurocrat cock.
Do you guys even value freedom?
>>52718146
Do you really expect others to understand nationality?
Only few countries had developed nationalism in middle ages.
>>52716531
who the hell would want to be in a federation with fucking Belgium and that eastside shit
>>52718228
oh and germany
Nazi Reich had similar borders.
>>52718201
well that's true, for me as Pole it's really hard to believe Poles in the middle ages fought for Poland only because king forced them to do so
>>52718100
>China will be the next centre of the global economy, and we have a better access to it with Silk Road 2.0. Chinese plan Poland to be their European terminal.
Chinese also chose London to be the Renminbi's western hub and they're investing loads in the UK while the UK is investing in the Silk Road. London will be the European terminal of the railway system linking this side of the world to China once everything is properly connected. Also we have a navy presence next to China.
UK and China will start to get closer 2bh. Don't try and steal our new friends from us, Poland. If you do that I will get upset and shitpost you on /int/
Even with the whole refugee thing going on there are still people who think this is a good idea?
>>52718277
Nothing changed. Germany has won both WW1 and WW2.
>>52718306
Poles actually had a pretty strong nationalism in middle ages. Not the average Pole but elite.
>>52718150
dealing with slow national beaucracy, high taxes wasted on nozhing, and worthless education about national history and geography isnt freedom desu
if i coupd choose i would rather be born in eu fedration than national state
>>52718228
that "eastside shit", Poland is surpassing you economically this year : ^ )
>>52718336
Its very sad that people cant see this.
>>52716728
True that, but if we jzst treat every nationstate like an american federal state they can't complain that much.
>>52718364
So you can have even more tyrannical bureaucracy and regulations?
France+Benelux+Germany, after that it was all wrong
>>52716905
>wanting to be a part of some faggot federation
>>52716843
>French
Get the fuck out of here. I'll never learn French.
>>52718376
People are dumb and easily controlled.
Germans mastered this art during HRE times.
>>52718320
>London will be the European terminal of the railway system linking this side of the world to China once everything is properly connected.
Kek'd hard.
While yeah London is a financial capital and it's important for Chinese it simply can't be any terminal except for British terminal. Because it's peripherial. Terminal, rationally is located in the central area with good access to any other areas. Like Poland. >>52717303
>>52717303
>UK and London not even marked on the map
>>52716531
Never gonna happen.
There is already a huge opposition to the EU within the population (maybe not in countries like Lithuania because you only get money and benefits without doing anything to deserve it).
A country with 1000000000 different languages, values, cultures and mentalities? Everyone has to learn english or what? Everyone will continue living in his homeland anyway. Except of all those poor gypsies who will flood Western Europe.
Even Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia failed as multinational states. There are separatist movements in Spain, Ukraine, UK or even in homogeneous countries like Italy.
The European Federation is the worst idea I have ever heard of, it will balkanize within two fucking years. You have to be helpless retarded to support this shit.
>>52718336
>Nothing changed. Germany has won both WW1 and WW2.
are you retarded
if you cunts can't even develop past a country that was literally obliterated then maybe you need to try harder
>>52718444
>Terminal, rationally is located in the central area with good access to any other areas. Like Poland.
No, you're getting the words mixed up. If the new Silk Road happens,
Poland = a hub
London = a terminal
"Terminus" means the end of something. It comes from the latin. Poland has the potential to be a hub, similar to how Germany is a hub for European trade. Because of Poland's central position
>>52718415
no, it went wrong when you started to let in shitskins
poles, romanians etc even if taking your jobs(which mostly are just shitty ones anyway) they are more or less respecting your culture and law(after all we are the part of western world anyway), not organizing terrorism, not imposing any shariah law, not introducing the religion(or rather an actual political system in disguise) which historically has been the largest threat to the european civilization
>>52718539
I think Australians are just too dumb for my posts.
What was the German goal in ww1? To expand their infulence into MittelEuropa?
Well, they fucking achieved that goal later despite losing. - EU.
What was Nazi goal during ww2? - To capture Europe, have one currency and rule it in their German way. - Check - the EU.
If you can't understand, stay shut.
>>52718541
ah ok
>>52718004
PEOPLE IN CHAT RIGHT NOW
>>52718612
>only demography matters
EU/shit countries/shitskins were all mistakes. Why do you focus only on /pol/ shit?
Only a strong western core is manageable, this monster right now doesn't work
>>52716843
I agree, french is objectively the most beautiful language and should be spoken by everyone.
>>52718336
>Nothing changed
But back in the 30s Germany was or either was competing to be the most important economy in the world with the most advanced industry and workers in both relative and absolute terms, aiming world superpower through military means, but the destruction of europe created the space for that role to be filled by the americans, who became hegemonic after defeating the soviets. One might deduce that that's part of the reason why we're all talking IN ENGLISH right now, perhaps.
>>52718638
with that logic america won vietnam because 50 years later hanoi supports the US and loves capitalism
>>52718644
We could be a great Silk Road terminus.
London -> Istanbul -> Shanghai is my fetish
>>52718638
>What was Nazi goal during ww2? - To capture Europe, have one currency and rule it in their German way. - Check - the EU.
You are wrong if you think the Germans rule the EU. Plus Germany's power is declining
>>52717089
there's nothing wrong with the eu
>>52718908
London can never be the center of anything on matters of trade. Actually, even right now Portugal should already be replacing the Netherlands on port-level.
Better Europe
>>52719205
Yes we can. Not physical trade, though
>>52718444
>this nigger seriously beliving in "Silk Road" and that China of course chooses Poland as their main partner because.... "exceptional location".
Well why my co-nationals are so stupid, please ban all polish from int.
>>52718320
>London will be the European terminal of the railway system
We would need another two channel tunnels to make it even remotely possible. There is no way or reason to have all freight enter the UK on one track and leave the UK on one track. It would make much more sense to have somewhere like Poland be the terminal because of it's geographic position
>>52719154
They do rule the EU. Their ecenomy is far superior to the French one.
Your prime minister eats from Merkel's hand.
>>52718832
Americans never defeated the Soviets. Military the Soviets had the means to destroy America twice. They backed off because they failed economically. Socialism is always a mistake.
>>52719329
folksdojcze wypierdalaj.
>This whole concept of so called national states is so outdated and disgusting.
Then why do you set the limit to Europe? Marx would be most displeased with you.
>>52718612
what you forget,pawel,is that we,the european immigrants,cost money to employ
the shitskins work for nothing
>>52719491
is a turk rapebaby seriously calling Pole a shitskin?
>>52716531
Might as well since ever since we joined our youngs are migrating out of Portugal to other European countries.
What state would Portugal be equivalent to in the USA?
>>52719400
>Your prime minister eats from Merkel's hand.
Ok Grzegorz
>>52719514
I see reading comprehension is not really a thing they teach you in the schools vyssarionovich built for your backwater shitehole
i was implying greeks/poles/romanians what have you ask for actual MONEY when they work,while poor muslim immigrants don't
>>52719400
please tell me some stories about poland being superpower back to 100000000000 years ago and how britain germany russia and france plotted against poland inorder to stop their advancement kek
>>52719528
He does though. You should really do the Brexit.
That's the only way to fix ecenomy of the European countries. European Union needs to die.
>>52719644
I'm not responding to obvious baits. You lack basic historical knowledge.
>>52719686
>You should really do the Brexit.
No. That would be really stupid.
>>52719644
>>52719686
WE
>>52719712
>No. That would be really stupid.
Care to eleborate?
>>52719722
That was just beginning of the Polish supremacy in central and eastern Europe.
>>52719766
and the end of it as well
>>52719182
kill yourself you parasite
>>52719686
my favorite part about conversation with such kind of people like you is stories about "pakt Ribbentrop - Beck" and how poland defeats russia and germany but so unluckly Beck has died..... tell me are you a Korwin voter?
>>52719798
1333-1683
It ended with corruption. Democracy is a mistake, especially in 17th century.
>>52719821
Where did I say that? Are you mentally ill?
>Can't wait for European Federation.
>This whole concept of so called national states is so outdated and disgusting.
>>52719729
>Care to eleborate?
Whether we are in or out of the EU, the European trade is very important to us. The only way to influence the rules of the Single Market is to be inside the EU. Indeed the UK was one of the key countries behind the creation of the Single Market.
Leaving the EU means following rules written by others. Really, really stupid. Especially since the UK economy is doing so much better than our main competitors, France and Germany. Our influence in the EU will only increase as our economy grows relatively larger.
Finally, being inside the EU has been good for our economy. See pic related. The UK joined the EU in 1973. You will notice something.
>>52719729
No more free market in European soil. They would have more taxes on their products. Their vacations outside of their shitty gray country would become more expensive too.
>>52719884
We could join the free market but we would have no say. We would be in a situation like Norway's, following the rules written by the EU member states and paying for the privilege (yes, Norway does pay into the EU budget). A terrible idea.
>>52719875
>Whether we are in or out of the EU, the European trade is very important to us. The only way to influence the rules of the Single Market is to be inside the EU. Indeed the UK was one of the key countries behind the creation of the Single Market.
Obviously. Britain was build on trade. But why wouldn't you trade with the others after you exist EU?
>Finally, being inside the EU has been good for our economy. See pic related. The UK joined the EU in 1973. You will notice something.
But you also paid the price of getting flooded with genetical trashwaste.
>>52719884
Makes sense.
>>52719855
It was just my assumtion. Anyway, tell me, is it so hard to go on eurostat and look through a freight transportation statistics and stop telling bullshit about "Silk Road"?
>algeria and turkey have to fund even more nations
>>52719946
exit* i meant
>>52719875
>our main competitors
We're not selling the same shit anymore
>>52719855
You only had democracy for the nobles, who happened to be especially selfish compared to most of Europe.
>>52719946
>But why wouldn't you trade with the others after you exist EU?
Huh? We already trade with others. Non-EU trade is important, but so is EU trade. We can't just stop trading with Europe, we will always need to trade with Europe. Plus being part of the EU benefits us in trade negotiations with other powers.
>But you also paid the price of getting flooded with genetical trashwaste.
Those EU immigrants actually boost our economy. Plus it works the other way: it's important for British business that British people are able to easily move to other EU countries.
>>52720012
>We're not selling the same shit anymore
We compete for influence in Europe, silly
>>52719994
Silk Road is possible and a real option for Poland.
China denied Merkel many times, while Poland apparead there only one times and China wants to cooperate. It's not a delusion. It's a fact.
>>52720020
Yes, they were also easily corrupted like Radziwill family. Anyway, being a republic surrounded by absolute monarchies is never a good thing.
>>52720079
>Those EU immigrants actually boost our economy. Plus it works the other way: it's important for British business that British people are able to easily move to other EU countries.
Maybe pollacks, pakis and other easterners. Can you say the same about niggers?
>>52719946
>But you also paid the price of getting flooded with genetical trashwaste.
At least they're European.
Primary languages : English, French
Secondary: German
All others to be abolished in public and media use.
>>52719875
wow, seems like a EU is a large british mechanism of getting contribution from occupied states
>>52719884
It's funny because we import significantly more from yurup than we export so you trying to fuck us would only hurt yourselves.
>>52719946
Are you saying poles are genetically trash? Because the European union doesn't generally meddle with immigration policy of non-Europeans. The current quotas are a new thing but it isn't really working out.
>>52719329
Poland isn't necessarily the "main partner" of China. On the Silk Road there are many other countries which are vastly more powerful and influential. But it's true that Polish geographical location is favoring us.
>>52720208
>Are you saying poles are genetically trash?
Aren't we seen as such by western Europe?
>>52720141
the fact is that 98% of freight is transported through the SEA not the fuckin land you retard. The main terminals are Amsterdam, London, Hamburg and some Italian ports
>>52717367
When are you guys starting WWIII?
>>52720269
Go cry in a corner.
>>52719875
why Brits always come up with their "muh now we are growing faster than France and Germany"
>>52719875
>Leaving the EU means following rules written by others.
You mean like being in the EU?
Guyz, you forgot about Russia ;_;
>>52720382
You will collapse soon.
>>52720172
>wow, seems like a EU is a large british mechanism of getting contribution from occupied states
Britain has used its influence in the EU to make the Single Market something that suits us: an emphasis on free trade, freedom of capital, etc. Of course that also benefits others, but free trade areas are especially good for the UK's economy.
>>52720313
>why Brits always come up with their "muh now we are growing faster than France and Germany"
It's relevant to the conversation. It's a very good to reason to stay in the EU.
Larger economy (and population) = more influence in the EU = more say over the rules of the EU = a more prosperous Britain
>>52720368
>You mean like being in the EU?
When we're in the EU, we are one of those who are writing the rules. And our voice is fairly powerful, despite what people on here say, due to simple maths (our economy and population)
>>52720269
Yeah obviously most of freight will still be transported by the sea(it won't be 98% anymore though), after all the Silk Road we are talking about it's just a land part, but it doesn't matter it won't greatly benefit Poland both politically and economically.
>>52719855
It was not democracy.
>>52720313
Because that is true and because France and Germany are their main rivals.
>>52720446
Demokracja Szlachecka - the Noble Democracy
>>52720440
>we are one of those who are writing the rules. And our voice is fairly powerful
>>52720481
It's true. Read about the history of the Single Market. Without British membership of the EU it would look a lot different today.
>>52716897
I'm sure you have idiots in Poland. Our idiots are just louder.
>>52720401
>t. grievances
A day will come when all nations on our continent will form a European brotherhood. A day will come when we shall see the United States of America and the United States of Europe face to face, reaching out for each other across the seas
In order to achieve the triumph of liberty, justice and peace in the international relations of Europe, and to render civil war impossible among the various peoples which make up the European family, only a single course lies open: to constitute the United States of Europe
We must build a kind of United States of Europe. In this way only will hundreds of millions of toilers be able to regain the simple joys and hopes which make life worth living.
>>52720469
That does not mean democracy sorry senpai.It was aristocracy with extended rights for nobles or oligarchy.Democracy does not mean one particular groups rule.
>>52720141
Absolute monarchies were not that common so late in history, the most successful countries had moved on to various forms of parliamentarism that helped the crown with governing, which is probably why Poland with its semi-fedualism started to lagg behind.
>>52716531
can you take eastern bloc and PIGS out? thank you
>>52720464
Just I find it funny, Britain is growing nicely since I dont know, 2-3 years and instantly in every somehow economy related discussions there is always this Brit boasting about British growth, how will they surpass Germany as the largest economy of Europe etc..
I have nothing against Britain taking over as the largest economy in Europe, German language is disgusting and they can easily dominate us, it's better for Poland if Germany is weaker, but idk I personally hate br*ts for all the shit they've done to us throughout the history. It's not even they were our real, honest enemies like Nazis(Nazi Germany - the only country in WW2 who atleast was honest and consistent to us), they are always fucking plotting cunts.
>>52720538
This guy is right, with free trade and powerful navy brits looted the world.
>>52720444
Yeah that was my point. I laugh hardly from that guy which seriously believs in Poland becoming a major european power due to trade agreements with China.
>>52720587
Kek
Balkan barbarian savage thinks itself european
A reminder that to support the EU is to support the extinction of Europeans.
>>52720563
Hey, I never claimed we will be a superpower. We're not even an independent state since WW2.
I'm just saying that Russia will collapse, because you have huge problems with your vast territory.
>>52720589
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Liberty
>>52720619
We still got fucked hard by absolute monarchies. First Sweden, later Prussia & Britain with Russia and Austria.
>>52720632
>Britain is growing nicely since I dont know, 2-3 years
2-3 DECADES, not years. We have been doing better than them since the 1980s.
>>52720587
>In order to achieve the triumph of liberty, justice and peace in the international relations of Europe
>>52720401
If the Silk Road 2.0 goes through Russia they won't let them to destabilize.
>>52716843
>>52716940
>>52716991
>>52717149
Why not German?
6 states in Europe speak German. English? two small islands.
French? Lol even less
>>52720678
>nobles democracy
it's a democracy only in name, I alrady heard sejm desu.
>>52720711
China doesn't want Russia in it's way.
>>52720730
STOP.
>>52720667
>Balkan
Argentine "education"
>>52720241
Poles are some of the best immigrants next to other Nordic people, so definitely no. I don't understand why brits complain about poles when their country is being filled to the brim with pakis and Africans.
>tfw I don't border with any relevant European country
How can we fix the Balkans?
>>52720755
Is this angry facebook frog for me or other polish guy?
>>52720678
>implaying that current 17 century-tier territory "vast". It's truly small tбh.
>>52720653
No it's not my point I just made a mistake.
I meant that while it won't necessarily make us powerful it will for sure benefit us.
I don't think the current Polish political class can even think about Poland being major power and it wouldn't be capable of establishing it as a major power, but trade agreements with the largest economy in the world will help anyway.
>>52720720
English is global lingua franca retard. Literally no language can be even compared. No point in making people learn French or German when they ALREADY know English.
>>52720772
It's because we're drunk, loud and proud. :^)
>>52720790
Tsarist Russia despite British memes had problems with their territory as well.
Look I'm not trying to meme on Russia or something.
>>52720788
What do you think Ottoanon?
>>52720632
I think you should stop look on everything through the perspective of historical offends. For sure British care on themselves good, not polish ones, so once those interests diverge, the Brit will betray the polish one, and that is kind of obvious and normal thing.
Yeah and Germany is a main trade partner of Poland, so thinking of polish good we are very interested in German prosperity.
>>52720874
>English is global lingua franca retard.
>>52720879
For me I guess.
>>52720755
>China doesn't want Russia in it's way.
That's why China will cooperate with Russia. They already changed plans, initially they wanted the Silk Road to go through Ukraine, Central Asia, Turkey etc, Russia showed that you can't build any Silk Road without their approval, because they are capable of easily destabilizing these crucial parts of Silk Road.
>>52719527
Porto Rico
Eastern Europe should speak Russian again
This way we could integrate easier
Then have Russian as national language of EUFederation
>>52720961
Could be.
>>52720984
>Eastern Europe should speak Russian again
So they should speak dialect of Polish?
>>52720924
Where is the contradiction?
>>52719810
there really isn't
>>52720924
actually the simple thing before you chose language of the installation it shows up in ENGLISH proves my point
global domination doesn't mean people won't speak local languages...
english is far better choice than any other language anyway
>>52720755
so now show me how the silk road goes through the Poland pasting Russia you retard
>>52720961
>>52720879
What about africa, why chinese keep involving things in africa lately?
>>52720984
>Pole saying that Eastern Europe should speak Russian
get out putinbot
>>52720678
Don't think the UK ever had absolute monarchy, and Sweden only for short periods because it always ended with disaster. Karl XII and Gustav III had absolute rule but other than that we have had parliamentarism since the 1500s.
>>52720825
yeah China is interesting trade partner, by euphoria is inappropriate here
>>52720587
Fuck off, Churchill
>>52721071
to make money/conquer them economically/spread their influence?
maybe China learned from their mistakes - in 15th century they actually were capable of colonizing even before Europe but they didn't
>>52721071
Don't know. No one can understand China. They think beyond modern world.
>>52721096
You're right. It was more of a case that the ruler had the most to say in UK. In our case it was Nobles, the ruler was just a puppet.
Also, elective monarchy was a serious mistake.
>>52721119
>>52720698
First paragraph was said by Hugo, second by Bakunin and only third by Churchill
>>52719810
>a g*rm calling anyone a parasite
ayy
>>52720961
>tfw Silk Road building right now just near my local area (on pic). It should be the big highway.
>>52721406
>building
I mean "under construction", I'm sorry.
>>52721406
you what
>>52716531
Switzerland looks like cancer
EU is literally the same as Napoleonic france/Nazi germany,it will fail
>>52721002
yeah would be good
>>52721077
why? it's closer to our than english
wouldn't you like slavic language being spoken by whole europe?
putin is vepsian. look how well they have integrated. just like we should in european federation
>>52721406
The silk road project is interesting but transporting goods by water is so much more cheaper, I wonder if the project really helps at all.
>>52722145
No, people had to agree to its establishment, so its not like that
I hope that all Europe will soon unite. That's the only way we can be competetive, strong, prosperous and free
>>52722356
BASED
>>52720924
>He argues against English being the global lingua franca on an American website using an American invention in English using a picture depicting the English language in a dialogue box that asks if you would like to use a language other than English.
How stupid are you
>>52722492
>how stupid are you
Applies to you, since I never said that English isn't the main language.
>>52722356
So what you think about Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, could they join it?
You slavshits already lose your minds whenever something that isn't free money comes to you from Brussels.
Never going to happen, and thank fuck for that.
>>52722560
>I never said that English isn't the main language
You were >implying that the lingua franca isn't English. Also the lingua franca is literally the main language.
>>52722846
I just posted a funny picture with "simplified English".
Don't put words into my mouth.
>>52722845
>t. western fag on welfare
>>52722729
>Russia, Belarus and Ukraine
Literally one country
>>52723030
Only an uneducated fool would say that.
>>52716531
Just one thing, FUCK OFF. Don't include us in your Caliphate.
>>52723085
>mud slime
>talks shit about european caliphate
reported to isis enjoy getting beheaded
>>52723150
No problem, just keep us out.
>>52722845
>free money comes to you from Brussels
>free money
>from Brussels
>free
>>52722356
>No, people had to agree to its establishment
AHAHAHAAHAHAH when?!
>>52723237
Leave the retard. He doesn't know, let him dream.
>>52716531
>he lives in the EU and still unironically thinks a bigger state is a great idea
>>52722729
Once they achieve proper standards in political and human rights (EU should massively help them in that), sure, why not?
Let's also include Turkey
>>52723297
In all those referenda
It wasn't created by force
>>52722356
>free
the fuck am i reading. soviet rule wasnt bad either, at least we were relevant!!!!!!!!!!!1
>>52723339
>Let's also include Turkey
Unlike them we are at least white christians, kek
>>52723500
why do slavs look like ayyy lmaos?
>>52723324
>big state
EU has less bureaucrats than the city of Munich
Regelar administration should be delegated to regional level and EU should onlycoordinate most essential things.
There is no need for nations in modern Europe
agreed. """national""" states are cancer
>>52723570
t. non-national state with no identity
>>52723405
EU is liberal, anti-EU forces are reactionary
That doesn't sound very free, does it?
>>52723524
Cuz we are master race, bro.
>>52723642
>tfw no slavic ayy lmao qt to procreate with
>>52723629
>liberalism = freedom
2/10
>>52723559
>Regelar administration should be delegated to regional level and EU should onlycoordinate most essential things.
So what the fuck is the point of the EU then? When everything it "does" can be achieved with treaties and friendly relationships between nations WITHOUT having the risk of it growing bigger and bigger (like the US, Russia, China etc). This is nothing but a socialist pipe dream that even if it did occur would collapse within a few generations. Decentralization and multiple sovereign actors is great and the only safeguard against tyranny.
>>52716897
I mean I'm not going to sit here and pretend that New York is as different to California like you are to France, but the US does have regions that differ on political values and ways of living. Like the Deep South is definitely different than the Midwest but we're still American.
>>52723701
Take one, panowe.
>>52723758
>So what the fuck is the point of the EU then?
Defence, protection of peace, environment, political and human rights and some necessary regulations
>>52723991
>Defence, protection of peace, environment, political and human rights and some necessary regulations
Treaties, as I said. The way you're going about solving this non-problem is like instead of clipping your nails you cut off your leg or entire lower body. It's EXTREMELY excessive when literally everything you mentioned could be achieved with treaties and collaboration (NATO, UNHRC, Schengen etc). A little infighting and slower democratic process is NOT a weakness.
>>52724303
>A little infighting and slower democratic process is NOT a weakness.
But it is. European countries are becoming less and less relevant and those treaties would be chaotic
It wouldn't ensure that all countries in Europe will remain democratic
>all these citizen of the world lefty cucks ITT
Kill you are selves
>>52724543
>But it is.
It is a strength because tyrannical, undemocratic laws and so on would affect much less people if they were ever passed in any one country.
>It wouldn't ensure that all countries in Europe will remain democratic
That is a price I'm willing to pay. Better that some countries aren't democratic than risking ALL of them not being democratic.
>>52723597
more like non-soverreign nation ;___;
>>52722188
>why? it's closer to our than english
christ stop looking for an alternative to english
english is the perfect language for this purpose, no language can come close
so what russian is more similiar to polish and other slavic languages? do you think it's that easy to learn it? nope, not at all and I know it because I had russian in school
english has the largest range, it's not prevalent only in europe, it's a language of the US and like idk half of the world learn english as the second language anyway...
english is perfect language for eu federation, german, french or russian are just languages of local range compared to english
>>52723786
lmao every large country has regions like this and it can't even be classified as a separate culture
in europe lets say austria and denmark(which aren't even that far away on the map) have developed their own identity and culture with over 1000 years of history
>>52724670
>all these nationalist scum thinking nationalism actually works
I swear one day I will go to Poland and beat up some random Polacks and then go back to Germany, good thing I live near the border
Statists should be culled.
t. moderate liberal
>>52724701
And that's the price I can't accept
I also don't want to see any wars in Europe
>>52720632
>they are always fucking plotting cunts.
they're called perfidious for a reason (the perfidious Albion)
Why does you diaspora even go there? All they do is badmouth them whilst making themselves believe that the hordes of muslims are decent contributing citizens.
There's building and plumbing jobs here too, and we appreciate fellow European migrant workers above muslim trash.
There is also a fuckload of WW I and II memorials all over, of which we take good care (clean and flowers as a sign of respect), several dedicated to the Polish soldier.
>>52725955
I like Belgium 2bh.
Thank you for fries with mayonnaise. Can you work in Belgium with only English though?
>>52725955
>All they do is badmouth them whilst making themselves believe that the hordes of muslims are decent contributing citizens.
Stop bullshitting. UKIPers are a clear minority in the UK, If Poles were badly treated here they wouldn't come here.
>>52726802
>If Poles were badly treated here they wouldn't come here.
We don't have much choice 2bh.
>>52723559
>>52723085
I'm pretty sure I can say with confidence that the thought hasn't occured in anyones mind, egven by far.
Anyway, a feredal EU is nonsense. It can't and won't happen for obvious reasons - there is not much discussion possible really.
I thought this dreamworld stuff died already in the early 1990s, but seeing the enthusiasm by which the subject is discussed and the idea is readily accepted, makes me wonder. But then again a lot of people still believe that we will be conquering space and visiting far planets in the near future or make Mars a habitable place, as if those "The Jetsons" fantasies will ever happen in reality.
Mankind overestimates itself in this day and age, we may have a lot of technology at our disposal, human nature cannot and will not change.
The whole idea is even more ludricrous than the one about a diverse multicultural society, and a product of the same minds.
>>52726963
Well the idea that Poles are treated badly in Britain is a load of rubbish spread by people who hate us
>>52726009
Glad you like it :)
>Can you work in Belgium with only English though?
You can. Not everywhere or for everything, but it certainly is possible in Flanders (where 9/10 people speak it) and even quite normal in the EU District in Brussels, where it is the lingua franca.
>>52727278
I might go to Belgium once I'm done drinking myself to death in this post-commie shithole.
Thanks.
>>52716531
gayest shit ever
>>52727051
>Well the idea that Poles are treated badly in Britain is a load of rubbish spread by people who hate us
the UKIP?
Be it as it may, it is not the first time I encountered this notion, all in your own mainstream media.
Here the people treat Europeans who work for an honest living with respect, as we see European migration over non-Euro (read muslim) as desirable.
The only exception for this rule for Euros being Albanian/Kosovar, but that is mainly because they are pretty much only involved in organised crime. And they are considered as "some sort of Turk with a temper", and often wielding knives.
>>52725496
>I also don't want to see any wars in Europe
Federations are no guarantee of peace. You are naive to think this.
No one likes war, but it happens and there is very little you and I can do to stop that from happening. The only thing anyone really can do is to make sure that they are more valuable to other alive rather than dead. A corollary of that is that trade sanctions and vast "defensive" projects are in fact detrimental to long term peace (that is not to say that all defense is bad; it's not). But as you know this is something the EU is really keen on doing because Europe is all-in-all a rather leftist place.
Your "union of peace" is as much of a joke as the religion of peace.
The capital should be in Rome. In honor of the REAL european project dreamers.
>>52727818
>Rome
That's a very strange way of spelling Berlin.
>>52727846
Cam here to say this.
>>52716728
the difference between California and Nebraska is the bigger than Norway and Greece
>>52727818
>>52727846
>>52727862
The capital should be DC, since you're basically all states anyway.
>>52727950
Watch out no to colapse any time now.
