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Why are they so shit /int/?
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Why are they so shit /int/?
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>brazil
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>brazil
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>you're either born in a depressive frozen country but your wage is very high therefore rich compared to the rest of the world

OR

>you're either born in an exotic country with great weather but your wage is shit

Why can't you have both in this life?
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>>52686321

That's why we invented global warming.
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>>52686321
Australia
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>BR?
>No Swe
>Hue
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>>52686136
Too many white people and not enough Jews
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>>52686556
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>>52686321
weeelllll
greece has great wages compared to the rest of the world
and the weather is great
so shutcho ass up
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>Why are they so shit /int/?

It's too white. They need more multiculturalism.
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>>52686321
there haven't been any thing frozen where I live for ages. I think 2009 was last time there was something we really can call frozen here
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If all the Nordic countries blanda upped with the niggers or mudslimes then Scandinavia would be a much better place.

The white menace will finally be bred out and Europe will finally be the multicultural paradise it was meant to be.
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>>52686321
I prefer Scandinavian weather.
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>>52686781
I'm sure you do, Ivan.
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>>52686781
>depressive frozen country
>wage is shit

well you got the worst of both
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>>52686767
>If

>>52686321
Son, our tax rates are over 50%. I keep less than half of what I earn, the difference between a top-notch lawyer or doctor's salary is close to that of a guy cleaning up jizz at the porno theater
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>>52686866
why dont you guys dogde taxes?
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>>52686847
I guess I hit the jackpot.
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>>52686866
See
>>52687032

Take Notes lads.
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>>52686695
>greece wanting to talk about things that have the slightest to do with economics...
No thanks
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>>52687032
If you try to dodge taxes via your own business, first it's 50% regular tax, then 20% employer tax making it effectively 70% tax from your salary if you work from your own business.
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>>52686847
Someone just shoot me.
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>>52687179
wut?
nothing i said has anything to do with economics
i could say a million things about how shit your countries are about to become because the nanny state model is retarded,but that would be pointless bullying,something you do.
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>>52687280
Where you want the bullet senpai?
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Scandnavia can be pretty fucking great in summer as it usually reaches 30 celsius or something here.
Winter is okay in the south, minus 20 to minus 40 celsius in the north during winter.
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>>52687032
Why don't we just go out and mug people?
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>>52687259
I think he meant withholding.
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>>52687342
(including finland here)
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>>52687280
at least Russia is white lmao
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>>52687311
>the nanny state model is retarded
It's not, but the shitskins aka mudslims misuse it.
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>>52687358
because that is bad
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>>52687032
There's quite a lot of that here. We call it 'black work' (svört vinna) and if you're caught it can be pretty shit.

My sister was dating a guy a few years back who got caught after 4 years of off the book work. They calculate what you owe to the state in taxes off the wages you received and then slowly make you pay it off. Not to mention that getting caught will also put you on a blacklist by the banks so any kind of loan or a large sum credit card will be impossible to get.

Lots of Polish construction workers here work black.
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>>52687421
Dodging taxes is also bad, it pays for the king's crown. And sunshine.
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>>52687032
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>>52687316
In the brain, familia

>>52687391
gib oil moni pls
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>>52687032
Because I have integrity.
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>>52687525
gib earthquake relief moni
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>>52687476
>implying having more monies to spend for the welfare of your family isnt a good thing
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>>52687610
Never excepted a monkey to understand welfare state or support his countrymen
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>>52687562
well then I have more money to do whatever I want
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>>52687651
Why don't you start shoplifting while you're at it, m8.
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>>52687634
>supportimg his countrymen
>spend tons of money into refugees and making themselves good at the international cuckscene
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>>52687651
How many bananas do you make per hour?
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>>52687678
why should I? I have money that the government havent stolen from me to buy things
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>>52687634
We do. That's ruining our contry.
There's no point in calling brazillians monkey. The whole world DNA is here.
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>>52687704
enough for a good life in this paradise called Brazil thanks
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>>52687564
Spent it on anime figurines senpai
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>>52687698
Most of the money still goes to support the elderly, the sick, addicts, orphans and others misfortunate and hopefully will help them to become contributing members of society.

This is your countries are so corrupt and shit, fucking monkey
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>>52687788
>brazil
>get shot
fits you better than murica
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>>52687843
the chances to be killed by a ramdom lunatic that simply kills 70+ people for simply existing is much bigger in Scandinavia than Brazil 2bh
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Hello :)
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>mfw the vikings are the alberto barbosa of /his/
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>>52687840
>implying we dont this here also with a much lower tax cut
>implying we dont have the biggest public healthcare system of the world
>implying we dont have free universities for everyone
>implying we werent sending tons of students to study worldwide for free
And we do that even though we dodge taxes m8
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>>52688031
>street children
>medieval diseases rampant
>shit life exceptancy
>shit education
>favelas
>homeless people everywhere

sure thing, lad
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Daily reminder taxing work is theft, only land and other common goods should be taxed.
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>>52686321
Is the US not exotic enough for you?
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>>52687032
>why dont you guys dogde taxes?
The system isn't exactly set up to make tax evasion easy. The taxman has his claws in every pie in this part of the world.
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>>52688148
>nothing to do
>people kill themselves because nothing to do
>shitty weather each and everyday
>no sunlight
>biggest city is less than a million pop
>every news regarding Finland makes through the headlines for a week
>people spend their lives into nothingness since there is nothing to do
>rob a shop, get arrested. Pass the speed limit for 2 km/h get 200k euro fine. Dodge taxes get excommungated from society. Break any laws, get bad looks from everyone
>people are so eagerly for something new to the point they pay foreigners to live in their countries
Living is Scandinavia is like never being born, because you never feel alive
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>>52687562
>helping the state rob you
>having integrity
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I have a work visa with norway(home for holidays)
the only time people speak norwegian is in private, I feel like I wasted so much time learning a new language
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>>52688498
If you think the gubmint is taxing you too hard, then you should put that on your voting card, instead of doing crimes.
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>>52687634
>Never excepted a monkey to understand welfare state
And he'd better never learn to do that, since the welfare state barely works here and has never worked anywhere else. Mark my words: within 20 years, our "welfare" will be drastically cut.

>or support his countrymen
By robbing them and redistributing their money?
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>>52686397
>australia

maximum kek
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>>52688158
>Daily reminder taxing WORK is theft, only land and other common goods should be taxed.
>land and other common goods
>land
>common good
Private property. Ever heard of it, you filthy commie?
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>>52688561
>If you think the gubmint is taxing you too hard, then you should put that on your voting card
That will get the card thrown away.

If you weren't being literal, I'd like you to know that all our political parties share identical thoughts about taxation.

> instead of doing crimes.
Resisting robbery is not a crime, ya dingus.
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>>52688690
Really? We've been able to bring down taxes from around 80%.
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>>52687384
Finland is the warmest Nordic country (in summer) btw

Even warmer than Denmark
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>>52688736
>80%
You never had a tax rate that high.
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>>52688570
what about it? comfy lifestyle, great weather, and you can make a decent living even if you're working as low-tier job
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>>52688540
btw, nordic country taxes are ridiculous for the services they provide
It's easy to gloat about ""free"" everything, but when your entire income is taxed 55% then you have to pay a flat 25% VAT on everything plus other various taxes it doesn't seem very free. Especially considering you could move to USA/Canada/UK and generally get paid more as a skilled worker.

The only people it seems to benefit are the people who don't want to improve themselves.
I like the people and the culture, but everyone feels so brainwashed into thinking being taxed to death is good.
It's not my country so I don't complain though.
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There's a small, brown guy at the bottom of a pit. Above him, on the edge of the pit, there are several people standing peeing down into the pit, trying the hit him in the face. During all this the little guy is attempting to convince those above him that being urinated upon at the bottom of a pit is better than peeing down into the pit.

The little guy in the pit is Brazil, the guys above him are the rest of the world.
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>>52688945
hahahahahahahahahahahahah
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>>52688931
>Especially considering you could move to USA/Canada/UK and generally get paid more as a skilled worker.

Ever so slightly more.

On the downside you'd have no health insurance and no social security whatsoever. And instead of a month of paid vacation you'd have zero days. No maternity or paternity leave, no sick leave, no government rent or gym benefits, no nothing.

This pretty much cancels out any benefit of living in America.
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>>52686866

How do people in Sweden afford big houses / nice cars if top jobs don't pay much better than average / low jobs?

50% tax might not be what some think. Sweden, the Netherlands, Denmark etc. have a progressive tax system. Look up how that works.

But yeah if you have a very high salary, it can result in you forking over 40-50% annualy. Being middle class sucks because you pay more taxes + lose benefits like rental aid.
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>>52689428
>>Ever so slightly more.
Not really, the average for my field is ~18% higher in USA than Denmark(which is higher than any other Nordic country)
This is all before taxes.
You also conveniently left out how much more expensive everything is pre-tax in nordic countries.

>On the downside you'd have no health insurance and no social security whatsoever.
So I could use the money I get from not having as high taxes to pay it instead?
>And instead of a month of paid vacation you'd have zero days.
Or I could take a job offer that includes paid vacation?
> No maternity or paternity leave, no sick leave, no government rent or gym benefits, no nothing.
Or I could take a job offer that includes all this?

Face it, you've essentially accepted "I'm too stupid to negotiate things for myself so I will hand all my money to the government and let them do it for me"
>>52689522
my wages are taxed 55% in Norway
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>>52689559
>You also conveniently left out how much more expensive everything is pre-tax in nordic countries.
No, I went by purchasing power


What is your field?
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>>52688931
>"...your entire income is taxed 55%"
The income-tax is 30-35% depending on where you live in Sweden.

The VAT discourages companies from automating low-ed jobs, increasing the employment level at the cost of an negative effect on the BNP.

>"... you could move to USA/Canada/UK and generally get paid more as a skilled worker"
... With less social benefits such as free healthcare and trade unions. The US government knows little difference between a worker and a slave.

>"... but everyone feels so brainwashed into thinking being taxed to death is good"
Community VS Individualism. Being taxed is not fatal - Being in massive debt is however.

If anyone's brainwashed, its you. Take a look at how capital is divided in the US. Take a look at how your own government(by the people for the people - by what people for what people?), they're not on your side. Most Americans tends to have a very narrow perspective when it comes to tax and the very nature of currency - "This what I earn. This is what I get".

I've one simple question for you - How can the Swedish middle class afford more stuff(Cars, travel, housing etc.) than the American middle class when the swedes are taxed more?
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>>52689734
>No, I went by purchasing power
You know Norway has the second highest consumer price index in the world right?
>What is your field?
I have a dual M.Sc., in computer science and mathematics
I'm currently employed as a Data Scientist

>>52689805
>The US government knows little difference between a worker and a slave.
actual brainwashing
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>>52689805
>How can the Swedish middle class afford more stuff(Cars,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita

>USA
>809
>Sweden
>520
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>>52689805
>The income-tax is 30-35% depending on where you live in Sweden.
Assumptions: income tax (direct, 100%), employer social fee (indirect, 31.42%)
From a pay of 100, the employee first pays 32 in income tax (direct, 32%); on top of that, the employer pays an additional 31.42 in employer's social fees (indirect, 31.42%).
Thus, from a pay check of 100, 63.42/131.42 (i.e., 48.3%) is paid as taxes.

>With less social benefits such as free healthcare
You got more money to pay for it yourself.
>and trade unions.
Not a social benefit.
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>>52688611
Did you create the land? No you did not, it was either created by a deity of some sort (if you believe in such) or by universe itself. Thus it is considered common good, you only own the improvments made to certain land. That's why it is legal to tax you for denying access to others. Same also applies to stuff like radiowave bands (which are limited), you are merely using finite resource you did not create yourself.
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>>52689966
You forgot the 25% VAT.
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>>52689428
>On the downside you'd have no health insurance
He said "skilled worker", not "garbageman".
> and no social security whatsoever.
There's plenty of SS in America/Canada/UK.

>And instead of a month of paid vacation you'd have zero days.
You can take as much vacation as you want, but it'll obviously hamper your income. Why do you think we have lots of paid vacation in Nordic countries? It's not free.

>No maternity or paternity leave
UK/Canada do have both.
>no sick leave
That's a lie, too.
>no government rent or gym benefits
First off, no government pays for your gym sessions. Secondly, subsidized rent is very real in USA/UK/Canada.

>This pretty much cancels out any benefit of living in America.
As a skilled worker, living in America leaves more in your pocket, all costs considered.

We're not talking about cashier or capentry jobs here, you massive pleb.
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>>52689849
>I have a dual M.Sc., in computer science and mathematics
I am one half you then


To begin with you're not even going to get a job without being overqualified here

Non-engineer MScs sort of fall between the chairs
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>>52690077
>You can take as much vacation as you want, but it'll obviously hamper your income.
>sick leave
Except that might give an employer in the US reason to fire a person. In Sweden this is regualted in law (LAS).

>First off, no government pays for your gym sessions.
Then why do I have a fully subsidized gym card even though I have no ailments? Full pleb
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>>52690077
>>>No maternity or paternity leave
>UK/Canada do have both.

USA has mandated 12 week maternity leave, it's just not paid maternity leave.
The problem is that forcing employers to pay someone for not working is ridiculous, so you either need the government to pay for it or you won't have paid maternity leave.
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>>52689805

>How can the Swedish middle class afford more stuff(Cars, travel, housing etc.) than the American middle class when the swedes are taxed more?

High tax + free primary services = Sweden
Low tax + expensive primary services = US

But I'm curious if Swedens middle class is wealthier than the US. It's a fact that the american middle class has the highest disposable income.
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>>52689428
So move to Canada.

Lower taxes and our middle class is richer than Americans middle class anyway. And healthcare and all that.
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>>52689805
>The income-tax is 30-35% depending on where you live in Sweden.
The maximal income tax is well above 50%.
>... With less social benefits such as FREE healthcare and trade unions.
The healthcare isn't free and trade unions are worthless to a skilled worker.

>The US government knows little difference between a worker and a slave.
That must make your government literal slavers, then, considering how much more they infringe upon your life, economically and socially.

>Being taxed is not fatal
Being taxed highly is fatal.
>Being in massive debt is however.
What is that supposed to mean? You swedes are much more indebted than Americans.

>If anyone's brainwashed, its you. Take a look at how capital is divided in the US.
Capital is naturally divided, since everyone isn't equally smart, amibitous and lucky.

>. Take a look at how your own government(by the people for the people - by what people for what people?)
What?

>they're not on your side.
Why is that? Americans have a right to keep and bear arms, actual freedom of speech and great protection against arbitrary search and seizure through the 4th amendment. You have none of that.

>Most Americans tends to have a very narrow perspective when it comes to tax and the very nature of currency
And you are an extremist with the opposite view.

>I've one simple question for you - How can the Swedish middle class afford more stuff(Cars, travel, housing etc.) than the American middle class when the swedes are taxed more?
The answer is simple: they don't. You're lying.
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>>52690278
this is what I meant by the nordic taxes not providing better services tbqh
They don't seem that much better than say, Canada or Australia's but the taxes are much higher and so is the cost of living.
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>>52690019
You clearly do not understand what the concept of "ownership" is based upon. Here's a hint: right of might.

>Thus it is considered common good, you only own the improvments made to certain land.
This isn't true in the US, for example.
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>>52686136
Shit compared to what? I think there are very few places in the world where you'd be better off. Switzerland, Canada and the US are the only countries where your quality of life would be better.
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>>52690365

Services aren't neccesarily better or worse. It's just that the risk factor is lower in ther Nordics to be able to afford/access them.
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>>52690462
>quality of life can be universally measured
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>>52690475
Do you have any evidence of nordic countries vs Canada/Australia being more of a risk?
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>>52690410
Right of might? So you support private armies I see... We had that once, it didn't work that well.
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>>52690462
would add Australia to that list 2bh and perhaps New Zealand.
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>>52688158
Land is just a form of capital.
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>>52690562
>Right of might? So you support private armies I see
Why didn't you just google the term before responding? You clearly do not know what it means.

>We had that once, it didn't work that well.
How so? National armies are merely bigger versions of private armies.

PS. We also had anarchy in the pre-agricultural era, and it seemed to work just fine, since our species is still alive and doing well in the year of our Lord 2015.
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>>52686321
"Frozen", It's not even 0 now
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>>52686321
What's depressive about cold weather? Nigger, winter is only depressive if it doesn't get cold enough and all rainfall comes as rain instead of snow.
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>>52686136
What is going to happen to Norway when all their oil dries up?
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>>52687502
>välistävetäjä vie kaikilta
Eiks valtio oo se välistävetäjä
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>>52690837
What happens to socialism when you run out of other people's money?
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>>52690837
They'll return to poverty and irrelevance - and possibly a dash of entertaining viking barbarism, if we're lucky. I'm not kidding, the Norwegians have a notoriously undiverse economy, relying heavily on fossile fuels to sustain their house of cards.
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>>52690572
Living in Australia is basically guaranteed skin cancer. And the weather is constantly unbearably shit.

New Zealand seems nice, but the GDP per capita is lower than in France... It barely qualifies as a high income economy, and doesn't come close to the other mentioned countries.
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>>52690718
Please educate me then about right of might. Taxing land is perfectly understandable, as it doesn't violate any of the three liberal rights (life, liberty or property). Land belongs to commons as nobody has made the land, thus nobody can claim as its own.
There's a whole wikipedia page about if you want to learn more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism
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>>52690869
>Eiks valtio oo se välistävetäjä
hys hys. huono puheenaihe.
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>>52690936
>thus nobody can claim as its own.
Fuck nigger, you just liberated Karelia.
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>>52688462
Banter is fine but your attempt is just bad. Why do you have to make up things when there are legitimate things that are negative about Finland?
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>>52690936
>Please educate me then about right of might.
Those with power take from those without power.
>Taxing land is perfectly understandable, as it doesn't violate any of the three liberal rights (life, liberty or property).
The concept of taxation, and whether or not it is justified in certain amounts, doesn't spin around your "liberal rights".

>Land belongs to commons as nobody has made the land, thus nobody can claim as its own.
The man with the largest stick can claim anything as his "own".
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>>52691068
So effectively private armies.
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>>52689963
The Texas sharpshooter. Truly a logical fallacy befitting an American.

>>52689966
>Trade unions
>Not a social benefit
You need a work to live, and if a employer can take that away for no reason it gives them an immense amount of power. They can ruin your life because they don't like you. Trade unions balances the power between employer/employee.

>>52690293
>"... Trade unions are worthless to a skilled worker"
So if a skilled woman gets fired because she became pregnant, I suppose that's just OK because anyone will hire a skilled, pregnant woman.

>That must make your government literal slavers, then, considering how much more they infringe upon your life, economically and socially.
Not if you consider the labor laws that has been passed in Sweden during the last 50 years in order to protect the worker. Also, what do you mean by "Socially"?

>Being taxed highly is fatal
How is taxation fatal?
>What is that supposed to mean? You swedes are much more indebted than Americans.
You need to back up that kind of statement with a source. As far as I know, it was the US debt ceiling that caused the current economic recession.

>Capital is naturally divided, since everyone isn't equally smart, amibitous and lucky.
There is no such thing as luck. Everything is connected. If your parents are rich, you're likely to get rich yourself. If your parents are previously incarnated(or Finnish) your more likely to end up in jail. Capital is power, and it's anything but divided by chance.

>What?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address
Who do you think the US government serve? The people or the dollar?

>Muh freedums
What is freedom of speech? Are you talking about criticism towards the government or hate speech? And while not as unrestricted as in the us, it's still relativity easy to attain a legal firearm in Sweden.

>And you are an extremist with the opposite view.
I'm extremist for believing that what you earn is more than the number on your paycheck?
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>>52687913
But why are you comparing cases that make up a fraction of all homicide?
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>>52690932
http://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country
a lot of Nordic countries are in the top for skin cancer frequencies. Denmark is listed higher than Australia. so little to no worse than other Nordic nations.
don't think that's a strong argument. i happen to like hot weather 2bh.
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>>52691204
>So effectively private armies.
The Russians didn't need private armies to annex Crimea, half of Europe or 10% of our land.

Is the concept of "might" foreign to you? I cannot for the life of me understand why you constantly cling onto "private armies" when I bring up geopolitics.
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>>52691262
>You need a WORK to live, and if a employer can take that away for no reason it gives them an immense amount of power.
A skilled worker holds the power in a negotiation, not the employer.

>They can ruin your life because they don't like you.
No, they cannot, because they desperately need you if you're skilled, and if you're dumb, they still need you, because there is no market to sell products in if there's nobody with money to buy said products.

You build up a false dichotomy.

>Trade unions balances the power between employer/employee.
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>>52691368
Thats not private ownership or taxation though. There is no higher power who would tax nations (unless you count EU or UN as such). And if you consider the might of a nation (whether democratic or not) to be right of might, then taxation of anykind (or any sum) would be considered acceptable, after all it is the might of the government to tax its subjects.
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>>52691302
>This page presents the age-standardised rate for all cancers (excluding non-melanoma skin cancer) ordered by the countries with the 50 highest rates.

So that list includes all types of cancer except certain forms of skin cancer, and you think it supports your point?


The Nordic countries certainly do have a high rate of skin cancer, but that is because a lot of people travel to the south for their holidays and have dumb habits when exposing themselves to the sun.

A lot of carcinogens can be avoided. But you can't avoid the constant sun shining through the hole in the ozone layer right above Australia.
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>>52691262
>You need a work to live, and if a employer can take that away for no reason it gives them an immense amount of power.
Companies need workers to live. If an employee can leave for no reason, it gives them an immense amount of power. It's the reason why most people can't leave a job whenever they choose to and companies can't fire employees from one day to the other, however, that has little to do with trade unions. Employees can make their own contracts with a company or they can pay trade unions to do it for them if they're too incompetent.
>They can ruin your life because they don't like you.
Ruining peoples lives for no reason is not profitable.
>Trade unions balances the power between employer/employee.
In a competitive market, trade unions raise wages at the expense of increased unemployment.
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>>52691262
>Not if you consider the labor laws that has been passed in Sweden during the last 50 years in order to protect the worker.
Stealing doesn't equal protection.
>Also, what do you mean by "Socially"?
Forbidding the bearing of arms. Stifling free speech. Monopolizing sales of hard liquor. Things of that nature.

>How is being taxed highly fatal?
It creates less incentive to work.

>You need to back up that kind of statement with a source.
Just google "largest private debt levelsby country".

>There is no such thing as luck. Everything is connected.
Determinism doesn't give you the ability to choose where you were born, into what family you were born, in what time period you were born and with what mental skills you were born, dumbass. Life is not an RPG.

>Capital is power
Not what we were discussing.

>, and it's anything but divided by chance.
Yes, it is, and I already explained why that is.

>Who do you think the US government serve? The people or the dollar?
Serving the dollar serves the people.

>What is freedom of speech?
Google it.

>Are you talking about criticism towards the government or hate speech?
Every form of speech.

>And while not as unrestricted as in the us, it's still relativity easy to attain a legal firearm in Sweden.
It shouldn't only be "relatively easy".

>I'm extremist for believing that what you earn is more than the number on your paycheck?
You're an extremist for believing that the government spends your tax money effectively.
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>>52691581
>Thats not private ownership or taxation though.
You're right. My bad, I steered off course. I blame a lack of sleep.

Land is, however, still no more a "common good" than any other good.

> And if you consider the might of a nation (whether democratic or not) to be right of might, then taxation of anykind (or any sum) would be considered acceptable, after all it is the might of the government to tax its subjects.
The right of might doesn't justify anything by itself. "Right" and "wrong" are concepts that stretch beyond the swing of a sword or firing of a projectile.
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>>52686321
>depressive frozen country

Nah man, nature is beautiful here
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>>52686321

You were saying?
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>>52691265
because homicide isn't a normal things for BRs here, all murders are justified to the point that are engaged by one party or another. Here the number 1 cause of murder is drug trafficking, which means that those that die are people competing for gang territory, those that dont engage in a violent life wont probably ever die. To the point when murder happens apart from that motive BRs from all the country get shocked, which is just like the case in France or Norway, and there those murders are much more evident since you guys got ethinic and racial tensions that we havent got
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>>52690185
Only McDonald's doesn't pay for maternity leave
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>>52693920
ok believe what you want m8. People dont call South America the best place to flee no matter where you are from for a reason
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>>52694085
haha yeah sure, you must be high on some south american coke or something
anyway, the same thing can be said about norway, it was the muslim lefties who deserved to get shot
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>>52694085
The reason is inefficient and corrupt officials.
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What happens if you find oil or gas on your property in Nordic countries. Do they have mineral rights like we do here
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>>52694146
Yeah I am sure that nost lebanese, germans, italians, jews, nazis, spaniards, japanese, koreans, niggers, polish, ruskie immigrants that came here, could only feel and become BR by bribing officials. And it clearly wasnt because they integrated into the BR society just like everyone else.
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>>52694075
That's only true if your burger flipper
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>>52694393
Not hard integrating into an absolutely dogshit society though.
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>>52694393
Yes, all wanted people disappear there because they would be a lot less likely to be caught. Or do you think someone wanted for war crimes would be able to live in EU/US?
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>>52694552
They can in the eu if they claim some bs leftist reason. Like that African warlord in the u.k that said his right to life was at stake
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>>52694481
yeah sure m8 :^), excuse me while i am going to a bar with my friends, that are descendents of immigrants of all over the world, while I am one too, celebrate friendship until dawn and enjoy this great 25+ degrees celsius weather. See ya m8
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>>52686321
then we invented holidays...
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>>52694637
enjoy your mongrel party. bye
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>>52694626
Well UK is clearly its own case. And germany. Maybe sweden and france.

...damn fucking hate the EU.
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>>52694781
Wow you sound extremely butthurt
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>>52694966
Well the e.u is an extremely bloated organization that grew way post what it should've been
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>>52686321
>brazil
or
>country with great weather
chose one
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>>52690837
They've set up a trillion dollar fund to store their excess petro revenues. I think they're prepared.
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