Where did it all go wrong?
1492
Rocroi.
Reconquista
>>52685928
Their mentality changed from Kings to ''WE WUZ KINGZ N SHIT'' so they became lazy.
Just like us.
>>52685928
>chilling on the warm beach all year long doing whatever you want living a comfy 1st world life
What went wrong exactly?
nothing wrong with spain
>>52686102
>Spain
>First world
Too much overextension for a country with few population. We had no allies but many enemies. What's impressive is that Spaniards managed somehow to be the superpower for more than a century.
>>52686167
Plus no industrialisation when we should. Liberals fought for king Ferdinand VII in the War of Independence and then they got rekt by him. He was the worst mother fucker we could had.
nooo te la puedo creer ajjajajaja
>>52685928
1700
when we rebelled
>>52685928
1975
>>52686614
t. Pablo on vacation
>>52686046
You were never kangz bitch...
You woman were cum buckets for the ottomans up until the XIX
>>52686720
Excuse me?
>>52685928
When they actually believed Spain was a single, unified nation
>>52686790
Gee, I wonder who's behind that post.
>>52686243
>Ferdinand VII
This motherfucker right here is when everything went to shit
>>52686790
Can someone please explain ancient Greece to Alberto Barbosa here? Jesus.
>>52686790
>>52686243
Ferdinand VII was the end of the spanish empire more or less, it lasted for more than a century after him, but really weakened
30 years war
The problem that really put the Iberian Nations behind was industrialization. They negleted it until the XX century, meanwhile England who had before a bigger but not much bigger population than Portugal grew to the levels of Germany and France thanks to industrialization and was able to dominate because of that.
Portugal had to buy everything from England because we didn't produced anything and what we produced went to shit because we always had the shit culture that foreign produts are better than our own.
>>52685928
1808. Fucking Napoleon.
>>52689615
I'm usually inclined to blame the French, but how did Napoleon fuck up modern Spain?
>>52686790
But who was Byzantium ?
Really bad banter Mr.Barbosa
>>52685928
When they rapped america and caused hyperinflation
it was their last breath when franco chimpouted, but his successor king cucked it all
>>52685928
No Protestant work ethic and self hate. They have potential to be a great power again.
>>52689866
byzantium is a modern name for the roman empire when it was reduced to the eastern empire. They were greeks but they were united and made a kingdom by someone else.
>>52689962
>no protestant values
thank god, they'd be even worse with those self-hating, collectivist values. Spain is a failure because they have to keep bribing their autonomous regions to not leave, they never were united and most likely never will.
>>52690337
after the 5th century the empire became more and more Greek tbqh
They were full blown Hellenic mode afterwards, cultural and linguistic
>>52687932
>ancient Greece
>byzantium
>anything to do with modern Greece
Greece is 200 years old(at best),tell me the byzantine culture and traditions they still practice today.
They wear Turkish dresses for fuck sake
Portugal is 1200 years old.
Older than any European state
>>52685928
Reconquista took 800 years
>be muslim, can't fight because you have to pray
>be spaniard, can't fight because you have to sleep
>>52690539
Not really,in Spain it took 700 years
In Portugal it took 100 years
>>52690534
That's a good point, actually. I will now humbly eat my words.
>>52690596
770 is closer to 800, Alberto.
>>52690436
true, I was making the point they didn't have to unite themselve)as they (greeks) became their own rulers in 2nd hand empire instead.
>>52686243
>Ferdinand VII
i hate this fucking bastard
>>52690596
t. barbosa
>>52690786
Fuck Spain,I don't care if they were burqa fucked.
Besides,why do you hate your colonizers?dou you have Italian descent,Sanchéz?
>>52689814
>They were our best aly since the War of Succession
>Destroy our navy in Trafalgar
>Transform liberalism in something to be ashamed of
>Caused an overreaction from the absolutists
>A four years war that destroyed industry and infrastructures
>The destruction of the Navy prevented a fast reaction against the independence of most part of our colonies in America
>They stole a lot of works of art and archeological patrimony
>In 1808 we were the third global economic power
>In 1814 there were only ashes
>>52691042
most of this was caused by Ferdinand VII
>>52690534
>They wear Turkish dresses for fuck sake
Shut the fuck up, Abdul
Go pray to the sandnigger kike like your bedouin forefathers did
A fucking Portuguese want to tell me that I'm Asian Turk, kek
I mean everyone can bant me, but for God's sake Portugal calls me not European
Hahahah Portugal
HOL UP
>>52691035
I don't hate them, Costa. Actually spaniards was very based colonizers, instead of "muh shekels" like UK or Nehterlands they made a bretty good job expanding the traditional western values.
>>52686614
>American education
holy shit.
>>52685928
>living my top tier life in my top tier country regardless of being a """""shit""""" nation
Precisely, Chinkada, what went wrong?
>>52691306
Says the fucking Turk rapebaby living in Germany.
Your woman got buttfucked by ottomans since 1400s
We exist since the year 868
You're so European that you were part of the ottoman empire for hundreds of years
I mean look at Mitroglou,he's your average Greek Turk rapebaby
>>52691428
they are spaniards bro
>>52689814
>I'm usually inclined to blame the French, but how did Napoleon fuck up modern Spain?
He invaded Spain and broke Spanish power
>>52685928
>what was wrong
>we are literally one of the best countries to live
>best climate
>best fiesta
>best healthcare
>safe country
>good food
>nice people, beaches and cities
>nice culture and monuments
say the leaf.lmao
>>52694117
>we are literally one of the best countries to live
Nope
>best climate
Depends on the Autonomous Community
>best fiesta
Depends on the Autonomous Community
>best healthcare
HAHA no
>safe country
So? That's the same in almost every single eu country
>good food
Overrated
>nice people, beaches and cities
>implying
>nice culture and monuments
>implying
>>52694376
t. jordi nini muertohambre
>>52694376
Artur, you are and will ALWAYS be a colonized Frenchie.
Do not forget that.
>>52694408
even if i were starving or catalan, that doesn't mean i'm as ignorant as you to ignore the fact that many countries are way more pleasant and nicer than spain in every single aspect
solo espero que sigamos juntos toda la vida, que no nos invadan los moros y no haya otra guerra civil
>>52694534
its your opinion. Maybe you would to travel more.
>>52694534
>that many countries are way more pleasant and nicer than spain in every single aspect
Surely!
It's not like Spain is the most desired retirement country for every developed European country!
>>52686162
say what you will about spain but it legitimately is first world, where do you guys get the idea that its not?
you live in fucking canada so i guess you are just mistaking it with our proud colony called mexico
>>52691334
well said bro
>>52694534
he said one of the best no the best in the world m8, and he's right.
spanish east coast with catalonia and valencia is BASED AS FUCK, not so much the north with its inbreeding and deformed girls
>>52693949
Literally worst banter I read this week
I mean, Alberto is your meme not mine
But I find your nationalism pretty cute senpai
Stay based
>>52697281
barbarian fuck...
PSOE
>>52697304
I'm not Germanic
Look at the post history dude
You should notice my nationality
>>52697464
im not reading all that...
>>52697464
It's the opposite tbqh turks are just Islamified Greeks, the original (Seljuk) Turks were literally Mongol looking, Modern Turks are just mixed Armenians, Greeks, Balkanars etc.
Not to mention that many ancient Greek speaking tribes were in modern day Turkey.
>>52697663
>turks are just Islamified Greeks
So they do have a legitimate claim to Cyprus after all.
>>52697663
Emena mi mou les re malaka
Ton pousti ton Portogalo na ta grapseis
