What is it like living in the Ukraine? I'm contemplating moving their. I come from a pure Ukrainian bloodline on both sides. My Grandparents came here fleeing Stalin.
I love my nation, but we are so unfree. People here select the politician who they hate the least. Taxation rate only continues to increase. Frivolous lawsuits and self destructive multiculturalism plague this country.
I want to live in a free country that actually protects its own culture rather than sacrifices it in the name of "tolerance".
>I'm contemplating moving there
Are you trying to get liberated?
I expected the leaf
>>52628397
I'm hoping to move to the Eastern part. I'm confident America won't allow Russia to further expand inland. My Grandparents were "liberated", the Holodomor was real fun for them.
>>52628341
HA, Ukraine is not free. Its a pawn in the struggle of the EU and Russia
If EU wins, it will slowley become a Canada 2.0. If Russia wins, Ukrainians will one day call themselves Russian
>>52628430
How can the Holodomor be real if the Ukraine isn't real?
>Moving in a non-country that's gonna lose territory in the near future
Also
>Diaspora
>>I love my nation
>Muh grandfather
>Muh heritage
Every time.
>>52628341
I'm from Ukraine and you're a dumb faggot. Canada is more free and better then Ukraine in almost every way.
>>52628341
>My Grandparents came here fleeing Stalin.
No mercy for wrecker scum.
>>52628619
Have you been to Canada? A majority of your personal income is redistributed by the state.
There is a 6 month wait for healthcare treatment and a severe doctor shortage. Private healthcare is illegal. According to the Fraser Institute each family pays on average 11,000$ a year for our healthcare.
It is illegal to be right wing. The media is censored under the guise of political correctness. Socialism is praised.
History is constantly being rewritten to favour minority groups and to favour socialism over liberty.
Every politician wants to raise taxes. Taxes have increased by 300 percent with inflation in account since 1964.
I just want to live in a country where I can do what I want with the majority of my income.
>>52628686
>posting that fake photo
He had pox as a child, his face was scared
>>52628692
you've been going to /pol/ too much
>>52628341
Depends on where you live and what your financial situation is. Kyiv is okay, Odessa is also pretty nice (one of the prettiest cities in Europe imo) but I don't think there's any future for the youth so I think you should stay.
It's a lovely country really, but in a state of political turmoil and everyone's struggling to get out. Also, if you don't speak Ukrainian or Russian you're fucked.
Really, you have no idea how nice you have it. Those of us who can study abroad, those who can't try to leave some other way.
>>52628430
are you trolling
>>52628692
Oh, I see. You are fascist and bandera. You are welcome to donbas.
Ukraine will soon join EU. Say hello to syrians, somalis, kikongo etc plus gay rights and shit.
>moving from liberal place to soon to be liberal place
>>52628758
>Ukraine will soon join EU.
>>52628758
That isnt even happening in the rest of Eastern Europe, so why would it happen in Ukraine?
>>52628758
ukraine isn't even a candidate yet lol
>>52628758
>Ukraine will soon join EU
Nice one
>>52628792
Because Ukraine is very progressive and European state.
>>52628792
to move anti-missile defence closer to Russia's borders are you living under a rock?
>>52628718
>>52628734
You guys don't know how bad it is. If you want an example of how Canadians feel, go to our state media website cbc.ca . This is state propaganda, only leftist articles are published.
To see the real opinions of Canadians, read the comment section. It truly demonstrates how disconnected our government is from the people. While this is a microcosm of whats going on, its the best way to show a non-Canadian a tidbit of public opinion.
>>52628698
Capitalist propaganda.
>>52628819
Just turn off the television and stay away from multicultural cities. That's easier than moving to a war-torn county only to be killed by Putin army.
Our founding document (The British North America Act) promised liberty under responsible democratic government following the will of the people. English commonlaw and institution is our foundation.
We used to be free, until Pierre Trudeau decided the state should take on the role of saviour. That the state should be a "servant" for all. Tommy Douglas and his universal healthcare act was something else, it looked good on paper, but it has cost tons of money which has evaporated in bureaucracy while actual services continue to decline.
>>52628819
>read the comment section
>>52628811
>Contact
Ukraine is extremely poor, in a civil war right now and it would mean increased tensions between EU and Russia.
The EU is toothless unfortunately.
>>52628881
Multiculturalism is our future. My grandfather helped physically build Surrey, which is now riddled with immigrants gangs killing eachother. It is about 40% white. In 2002 it was carjacking capital of North America, even outdoing Mexico.
I live in British Columbia. Taxes have risen exponentially. Recently, a study was done claiming we are not "diverse" enough. It found most communities outside of major cities here were majority white. Our government thinks this is wrong, and is calling for more diversity.
Surrey and Vancouver has taught us to expect our local culture and customs to be destroyed. Everything we've built will be destroyed for ideology.
>>52628918
Dunno how ">Contact" got in there lol
>>52628861
uh huh ;)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Un5LpUl9quw
>>52628964
Diversity tends to coalesces in areas where public assistance programs are highly available which tend to be major urban centers. They don't usually exist to a great extent in smaller communities simply due to logistical overhead; it's more costly and less efficient to administer public assistance to dispersed points rather than just focusing on one major point. Paying lip service to and actually going through with the proposed changes are two different things. I think you'll be just fine in the smaller community.
>>52629219
That's what we thought originally about 15 years ago or so. We seriously didn't believe that the government would enforce their plans on such a deep expensive level. We underestimated the governments ability to expand in the name of ideology.
All government services are required to serve people in their home tongue. When immigrants come along, they can bring their family members in with relative ease even if they are sick or unskilled. There was a Sikh man who brought over 70 "family" members a few years back.
The government has planned to inject a steady stream of immigrants into all levels of society. Let Canada be a warning for you, America.
>>52628819
I think you have a case of bored man who wants adventures. Like those teen girls going to muslims.
>>52628747
>bandera
>donbas
Wot
>>52628341
>My Grandparents came here fleeing Stalin
>yfw when your prandparents were purgin filth like your bloodline till late 50th.
Feels good.
>>52628341
>>What is it like living in the Ukraine?
Ask at any forum of *.ua.
Have fun with your 50 euro monthly wage. Also enjoy your freedom, low taxes and paying for healthcare.
You need a good job,with a good salary. It's not possible to find it here. In the rest it's average east european cunt with shittier infrastructure - not in EU yet,and government thiefs. Stay in Canada,and be safe.
>>52628964
When you step outside of the angry bosom of /pol/, you'll find that the real world isn't as tragic and leftist as you think. I'm a conservative as well, but I'm not going to run. Once you wake up from this internet-induced stupor that you're in, you'll realize that getting a university degree or vocational education in an in-demand field is a pretty easy path to success. Once you have that education, if you did a basic and easy level of networking and job hunting, will land you a job that pays decently well (middle class income). And yes, unchecked immigration from incompatible cultures is shocking and scary, but you'll find that once you enter the real world, it's not going to affect you (outside of driving through a minority neighborhood every once in a while). As whites, we're still firmly in control of our societies. You just have to work hard and you'll be set for fucking life. You literally have no excuses, and the world is not crumbling around you.
>>52628341
muh heritage
>>52632636
Oh yeah, and get a girlfriend. I forgot to add that part. It's not that hard, and if you think that most women out there are like what /pol/ tells you and tumblr portrays, you're wrong. There are plenty of nice, white Christian girls that would happily be with you if you're not a miserable, pessimistic asshole.
>>52628341
Just visit Kiev and Odessa. Those are great cities, go and see with your own eyes. There are anons from both on /int/.
>>52628619
youre adorable
>>52628341
>be canadian
>want to emigrate to the fallout 4.
you are stupid, man
>>52628792
>That isnt even happening in the rest of Eastern Europe,
It is though.
>>52632652
>said by a Jew
Pretty funny.
>>52628692
>private healthcare is illegal
Wtf
>>52628758
>syrians, somalis, kikongo etc
Balts don't have em.
>gay rights
No one cares.
>>52630377
>paying for healthcar
>Ukraine
>>52632768
>said by a jew
mmm a german arguing with a jew. last time this didnt finished very well
>>52628692
Then move chile or estonia, ultra neoliberal shitholes
>>52628698
>his face was scared
Picrelated - Stalin in 1894
>>52628341
are you fucking retarded
>>52632817
There was no arguing last time, there was only the harvest.
>>52632807
>Balts don't have em.
Have you been to Riga? Because I have . They do have some sort of brown people , and not the churka kind. Also , Riga is full of Asians.
> What is it like living in the Ukraine?
At first, it's surviving, not living.
No jobs, bad infrastructure, thiefs in goverment and everything is getting shittier day by day.
Stay in Canada, bro.
>>52632912
What about reforms and shiet? Like New Ukraine?
>>52632950
>New Ukraine
Old was better 2bh
>>52628341
that sound like a really bad idea
no one there will care about your muh heritage
>>52633146
Maybe your government will try hard to show it's better and actually make better things? They can still enhance life and cuck you the same time like they do in America.
>>52628341
>What is it like living in the Ukraine? I'm contemplating moving their.
You sound like a person who's fucked up in the head. Please come and burn your Canadian passport upon arrival.
>muh heritage
You guys are so cute. I bet you even speak "ukrainian".
>>52628758
Depends on you definition of soon
By pre-Crimea crisis criteria the earliest Ukraine could hope to become a member is 2050
>>52628882
>>this heathcare story
I am waiting for a visit to a neurologist - still 8 months to go, been already 2. Most doctors flee for the West (incl. Canada). Private healthcare isn't illegal, but it's relatively expensive and you still pay 7,5% of your salary for the public system.
>>52628341
Ukraine is one of the worst countries in Europe and the world.
>>52628758
It wont join anything anymore. It would be in NATO already if your president didnt order Crimea to be returned under russian control.
But now with a frozen conflict and border disputes, Ukraine cant go anywhere the west might want it to go.
Fun fact: Ukraine had it's Nuclear program and Nuks, but ceded it to western Europe which in exchange guaranteed their borders
:^)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Never trust western Europe.
>>52635117
You forgot to turn off your proxy, Vladimir.
>>52628341
>I come from a pure Ukrainian bloodline on both sides.
Sorry for my ignorance but do Ukrainians really think they are separate people from Russians? For me they are the same thing like how Austria and Switzerland (the German parts) are merely special snowflake Germans i.e. Ukrainians and Belarusians are merely special snowflake Russians. Divisions like these are beyond stupid.
>inb4 alexander turkoslav
>>52635079
Another Canadian. Our wait times for specialists are long here too. I had to wait like 6 months to see an ENT.
>>52635579
That's because you're uneducated
They're not the same people and they never were.
>>52635673
t. Ukrainian snowflake who escaped to Poland
>>52628341
>pure Ukrainian
Sorry what?
>>52635719
Are you serious now?
Ukrainians - Descendants of Kievan Rus
Russians - people who claimed the title
>>52635747
Eastern Slavs are literally the same people.
>>52635788
Sometimes I forget where I am.
>>52635330
Since when russia is western europe? They don't give a shit about us,and our borders.
>>52635819
So they aren't? How do they differ? Linguistically? Racially?
>>52635747
Rzeź wołyńska
>>52635926
Because we're genocide each other,dumb pan-slavist. If we don't want to live united - we don't live
>>52635894
Dyadko, you part of Russia now de facto.
>>52635996
Katyń
>>52636022
My house,not me.
>>52635747
But it was Knyaz from Novgorod who found Kiev Rus.
>>52636015
So? Serbs, Croats and Bosnians did that shit literally 20 years ago but that doesn't mean they aren't the same (idiots) people.
>>52636026
Russian has no butthurt about Katyn, kek
Also:
III rozbiór Polski
![1449435474669[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yZkdfZ2.jpg "1449435474669[1].jpg")
>>52628430
>I'm hoping to move to the Eastern part.
LITERALLY WHY.
real talk:
A lot of coal mining towns. The air quality is awful. Some days you have to wear masks just to not cough endlessly.
>>52636048
Don't deny the truth, dyad'ka. You speak russian, you live in territory controlled by Kreml', you pay for everything in roubles, participate in russian threads, yet call yourself ukrainian.
>>52636095
Nothing wrong to call himself Ukrainian if he wants to.
Canada is literally worse than Ukraine. I believe it.
![1447123219779[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jo2plyZ.jpg "1447123219779[3].jpg")
The girls are really cute.
>>52636132
>>52636095
But it's Russians that call themselves after Kievan Rus name. :^)))))
>>52636132
They kill me,though
OP don't be a faggot and go live in Ukraine if you have the citizenship. See if you like it for a few years, you can always go back to kenjada
>>52636132
This is how you became descendants of Alexander? Ok. I am spanish nao.
You should do it, it'll be a much needed wake up call for people like you
>>52636204
back the fuck off faget? I am only Mace in this thread
>>52636216
No, government is stupid. I know our people called themselves Bulgarians a century ago.
>>52636132
Can I call myself Jew and move to Israel?
>>52636180
Yes. Because we are direct descendants of Rus' just like belorussians and ukrainians. And we united it all under one flag once therefore called this country Rossija
>>52636246
You wouldn't be the first Russian to do that.
>>52636246
If you have some legit ancestry, I don't see why you can't.
>>52636132
Hmm... I should start a rally with SJWs that I identify as an American. I will have green card in few weeks, but I bet when Sweden hears about it they will insist that I will move there.
>>52636180
>polish education
Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staraya_Russa
>>52636243
I'm Albanian
>>52636320
>If you have some legit ancestry
That's a problem. I'm full Russian, blue eyes, white skin and blonde hair.
>>52636340
You keep blowing things out of proportion.
>>52636385
Yeah and I am fucking your mother.
>>52636095
Cucks - yes.
Russians - no.
>>52636402
you're liberator.jpg, can't pass for jewish
>>52636402
If you ready to cut dick, I am pretty sure they'll have no trouble accepting you for Shlomo :^)
>>52628783
man spongebob had a lot of reaction images
i know that one is a shop but still my point stands
>>52635579
Dude, your country is the meme-iest in Eastern Europe. You have no right to mock other countries.
#teamUkraine
>>52636704
>Dude, your country is the meme-iest in Eastern Europe.
I am aware of our real history not what some idiots try to convince us think our history SHOULD be.
>You have no right
Come and tell that to my face fatso
>>52636704
I knew a ukrainian family here, they shilled for russia.
>>52636768
Fight me irl man
OP will move from canada "swear we're not america" to ukraine "we're totally not russia" hahahahahah can't make this up
>tfw other makes shit up on Ukraine for no reason
s-sorry
please don't take it wrong way
>>52637095
sure senpai
>>52637095
We're happy that Ukraine became relevant
>110 posts
Yay!
>>52633146
My nig. I sometimes dream about old good days with Yanukovich, no war, easy travel, prices are twice lower and grivna twice higher to dollar.
>>52630382
Thanks
>>52632698
>>52632636
You need a vacation here. I do have a girlfriend, I have had one for a year. I want to start a family somewhere with an actual future, somewhere free. I have a decent job, but with the economic downturn its not very secure. You need to realize that Canada is a leftist shithole. I highly recommend you take a look at Vancouver before you start telling me how my country isn't "that bad".
Our " free" healthcare costs around 5000$ a year for the individual according to the Fraser Institute. It is illegal for a private doctor to operate. I pay 50% in income tax. For the past 10 years I've watched things further decay.You don't know what it's like watching your hometown transform into a multicultural wonderland.
>>52636086
I still have family living there. Not directly in the separatist regions though. I've been in contact with them for a while now. When my Grandparents left their brothers and sisters stayed.
