What's happened with all of these old tribes ?
>>52572138
The stronger/bigger ones glomped the smaller ones and formed confederations to fight against the romans. Then they lost and got romanized
>>52572138
The Turdetanis migrated to the Indian subcontinent
>>52572190
but why Iberians easily accept to changes of languages unlike celts ? ( in first times of roman presence )
also modern people here descend of these tribes or they were wipe out, enslaved and deported outside ?
>>52572138
Lemavi = Monforte de Lemos
Seurri =Sarria
Grovi = Grove
Limici = Limia
Neri = Negreira
Bracari = Braga
Tamagani = Tamagelos
That's the towns I can identify in Galicia and Portugal.
>>52572138
Viriathus never forget tbqh
>>52572269
All of them turned into moors in 711.
>Turdetani
DESIGNATED
>>52572193
Came here to post this
>>52572138
>Malaka
>Sexs
what the fuck
>>52572359
and after that ?
>>52572350
The original alberto barbosa
>>52572138
They're still alive,in our hearts...
>>52572447
We are still moors.
>>52572269
They got romanized like Gauls, I don't really get what your point is. They even remained predominantly Romance speaking during the kebab invasions
>>52572269
They got romanized over the course of centuries, not overnight.
The native population stuck around, modern genetic studies still found traces of the pre-Roman populations, especially in the Lusitani and the Basques, cause they were indo-european not celtic migrants
>>52572447
Dont belive hij he is just trolling
They just got romanized harcore and then formed small kingdoms until the moor arrive but nobody turned moor all of the sudden
>>52572443
Malaka is Malaga. Sexs changed to Almuñecar, an arabic name.
>>52572494
but you are christians... moors fight against other moors for being christians ? that make not sense....
>>52572521
yes but this mysterious people speak a kind of meme language unrelated to indo-european stuff unlike gaulish language, so that's weird they change of language so fast...
are you sure modern iberians descend of theses ?
>>52572138
iberians+romans = catalans
aquitanian(proto-basque) = basques
celtics+romans = spaniards
indoeuropeans(pre-celtic)+romans= portuguese and galicians
turdetanian+tartessian+romans+arabs = andalucians
>>52572638
Moors fight everybody, silly.
Also Iberians were whites ? they descend from bronze age european people no ? they are the same shit like basques ?
>>52572138
They got culturally enriched by the romans.
What else ? Only the basques survived.
Never forget Viriato.
>>52572810
What else would they be ? Da fuck m8
>>52572638
I really don't get the point. The only language that has been confirmed to not be Indo-European is the Basque, along with its ancestral forms and dead sister languages. They didn't get romanized faster than Gauls or other people subjected to Roman Empire and culture, especially considering Iberia got conquered a century before Gallia.
>are you sure modern iberians descend of theses ?
Of course they do, there hasn't been a general deportation of the population or any kind of genocide. The arguably small amount of Suebes, Vandals and Visigoths invading the peninsula and the Muslim kingdoms with the small Moorish elite didn't really change the population actually.
Also you should really improve your English skills, I'm having a hard time understanding you.
>>52572810
>"... the swarthy faces of the Silures, the curly quality, in general, of their hair, and the position of Spain opposite their shores, attest to the passage of Iberians in old days and the occupation by them of these districts; ..." (Tacitus Annales Xi.ii, translated by M. Hutton)
>>52572810
>Also Iberians were whites ? they descend from bronze age european people no ? they are the same shit like basques ?
Seriously at this point I can't tell if you're really badly baiting or just genuinely retarded.
>>52572955
>>52572955
you were ruled by Arabs for 700 years and evidence show the majority of the population converted and intermarried you cuks
>rewriting history European tradition
>>52572269
>accept to changes of languages unlike celts
>unlike celts
Oh boy, Continetal Celtic langauges were very early cucked out of existence by Italic ones in the South (Northern Italy, Gaul, Iberia) and Germanic ones in the North (South Germany, Britain)
>tfw no written records of Gallic language that was spoken here maybe until ~300AD
>>52573045
source
>>52572933
i talk about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_language this is not an indo-european language
also we don't know the names of their gods....
>>52573107
The name of the gods were Karanka, Alkorta, Goikoetxea, Begiristain and Julen Guerrero.
>>52573051
i said "in first times of roman presence"
> "first times"
also celtic languages have survived in great britain even under roman control
>>52573107
>this is not an indo-european language
I can't see any backed claims on this page. Also it doesn't change anything, you're still implying without any relevant source and just generally shitposting m8.
>>52573188
>also celtic languages have survived in great britain even under roman control
yeah, mostly in regions they never conquered in the first place and only in remote, uninteressing peninsulas like Wales or Cornwall.
>>52572350
stop invading anzu's threads with your shit you stupid faggot
>>52573176
kek
>>52573281
the butthurt is strong here, considering people like you are calling others faggot
>>52573176
sources ? no joke ?
>>52573242
this is very important because ancient iberians are the second huge people of the peninsula after Celtiberians, and strangely they aren't indo-europeans... so they are the same thing like basques ? or they come from other land ?
>>52573188
I'm taling about Continetnal Celtic though (like Gaulish or Ibero-Celtic) which has completely vanished.
They already vanished in BC times from Northern Italy when Romans conquered the area, same happend later to Gallia. Only remnants we have now are our city and river names
>>52573340
Iberian have many things in common with basque but there isn't enough evidence to know if they are related or they influenced each other. So we will never know.
>>52573340
>and strangely they aren't indo-europeans
I still haven't seen any source for that. The only sentence that mentioned it on wikipedia is a sourceless phrase on the article about Iberians. We don't even know if the language the Lusitanians spoke is Celtic or other Indo-European, and we probably never will. Same thing with the Iberians.
>>52573095
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15mkzg_al-andalus-rises-the-history-of-islamic-spain-part-01_lifestyle
go to 33:00 and 35:00. The Visigoth were basically a failed state and most Spanish converted.
>>52573547
m8, this documentary was literally produced by a group called Islamic Legacy, it's already biased from the beginning. There's extensive proof of the big majority remaining Catholic, with mostly only the aristocracy converting to don't lose their status.
>>52573499
absolutly everyone knows Iberians peoples of the coast and the south aren't indo-europeans, why you troll like that ? also we have some graphic tablets written in lusitanian language and this is clearly indo-european unlike tablets of iberians language written in phoenician alphabet and looking like a weird meme language....
>>52573733
that's just the uploader adding their bit, stupid
>>52572282
those aren't towns, though, they're tribes
>>52572649
you forget sueves for the galicians
>>52572138
Romans killed and slaved all the males and violated their women. Only basques survived because >muh montains
>>52572138
The lusitanians were the fucking alphas of iberia.
It LITERALLY, UNIRONICALLY, UN-MEMEY became a Muslim Caliphate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba
Los Turdetanis migrated all the way from India to form Portugal and Andalucia, where they combined with Gitanos and Moors to create the Portuguese and Andalusian race, from where they colonized Mexico and Brazil to form the Spic and Brazilian Nigger shitskin races
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>52578621
>Andalusians
Andalusians are white.
>>52572810
Easy.
>First kraut comes
>Kraut then realizes inferiority of white ""people""
>invites superior moor
>spanish master race is born
>take over the world
>everyone betrays you in envy
>See the world go to total dogshit after that as divine karmic retribution
>>52572810
Kek.
Tbh, they put a good fight to the romans. During the Celtiberian wars many legions were cucked and back in Rome being enlisted to go fight in Hispania was for the average roman the equivalent of "oh mamma mia! I don't wanna go pls help!"
But they had unlimited supply of legions back in those days...
