Hahaha, isn't racism so festive and funny? Hahahahahahahaha! The Dutch do it again!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajji_Firuz
My Iranian relatives introduced me to this guy.
Is there a problem, my Canadian friend?
Negers are racist too
>>52565455
>the ebin "you can be racist against white people" meme
sigh
>Mfw the descendents of our liberators are now born without testicles and vote the literal bastard son who keeps reminding them of the current year.
It's sad to see how you have fallen Canada.
Based Dutch people. We do something similar too, tbqh.
>>52563899
We don't have your history and problems, america, so fuck off alrighty. It's a dutch tradition. These 'zwarte pieten' aren't associated by the children as 'black people' or as anything negative at all related to black people. So fuck off canadian normie, and put that weird ass furry suit of, because it looks like crap.
>inb4 butthurt
I went for the low quality bait, now calm your tits and fuck off.
>>52565729
It's probably this
I had to play moorz and shit in our shcool play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_singers
canada is becoming the new YES
>>52563899
Well he's originally based on some pagan character who helped the pre-christian version of Saint-Nicolas. He was forgotten for a while and re-popularized during the 19th century if i'm not mistaken.
And hell, i don't see what's racist about painting your face black and giving kids candy and toys.
>>52565599
stop canada
SMALL FOAMY BEERS
shut up you utter faggot
any backlash against the dutch for this is literally american cultural imperialism
(so no surprise it's coming from a canadian)
>>52565887
>aren't associated by the children as black people
except they are
>>52566423
quincy pls go
oh boy is it 2015 already?
>>52566375
I can't understand wtf is wrong with small foamy beers
>>52566471
This tradition will be dead within 5 years. Enjoy your green petes.
>>52566423
except they aren't viewed as negative so black people will only get a image boost from zwarte piet
>>52566423
I never associated them with black people because Zwarte Pieten had blue eyes and blacks have dark animal eyes.
>>52563899
>putting dark paint on your face is somehow magically racist
>>52563899
It's not racist if it's true.
>>52566476
I really wanna die sometimes desu
>>52566514
>Enjoy your green petes
>>52566514
XXXDDDDDDD
>>52566423
You're dumb anon, not even black kids saw him as a negro. He was Père Fouettard/Zwarte Piet for everyone, gave candy and toys with Saint Nicolas.
>>52566583
>>52566579
>>52566527
>>52566526
I'm black and I was called "zwarte piet" in a negative context a lot in my youth.
It's very clear that this racist relic of colonial times will be a thing of the past, where it belongs. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>52566514
lol
p.s. had to select images of mountains for the captcha, the feels :'(
>>52563899
M`canada
>>52566634
>I'm black
Please try harder friend.
>>52566634
Zeurpiet
>>52566634
>was called "zwarte piet" in a negative context
Literally impossible, small children where happy to see you because they thought you would give them free candy and presents. And not rape and robbery like adults think when they see you.
>>52566634
>Im black and i can't take a joke
>Im not native but somehow the country and natives should revolve and adapt around me and to my liking
fuck off
>>52566514
Pfft, as long as they aren't those retarded minions.
>>52566634
>I'm black and I was called "zwarte piet" in a negative context a lot in my youth.
If zwarte piet hadn't existed they would have just called you a neger. Whether or not the tradition exists has nothing to do with these people being retarded for judging you just on your skin colour, zwarte piet in itself is not negative, but I'm sure you can imagine why it's an easy choice if you want to yell something stupid at someone.
>>52566634
>a few young idiots took it the wrong way so the harmless tradition should be stripped from the whole country
Fuck off you sniveling, pathetic little cunt
>>52566712
Fuck your fucking natives. If you didn't want me, you shouldn't have colonized my ancestors.
I literally couldn't care less if some idiots want this shit to survive. It won't. It's already dying.
>>52566634
God damn it, have some Wikipedia:
>The most popular story about the origin of Le Père Fouettard was first told in the year 1150. An innkeeper (or in other versions a butcher) captures three boys who appear to be wealthy and on their way to enroll in a religious boarding school. Along with his wife, he kills the children in order to rob them. One gruesome version tells that they drug the children, slit their throats, cut them into pieces, and stew them in a barrel. St. Nicholas discovers the crime and resurrects the children. After this, Le Père Fouettard repents and becomes St. Nick's partner.
Same shit for Zwarte Piet.
>>52566807
Why come here in the first place if you hate us?
>m-my parents moved here
maybe go fucking back to your country of origin
>>52566807
If you want I'll pay you a one way trip to Ghana, there's no zwarte piet there
>>52566423
So they're going around raping villagers? or more like a positive influence? Use your fucking head nigger
>>52566847
I come here to leech, like you leeches off of my ancestors. All those years of slavery and exploitation.
I'll just stay here and leech.
>>52566807
>It won't. It's already dying.
I don't know man it just seems to me people are getting sick of the whining and the people who want him gone shout the loudest and the most. The people who want to keep him just didn't speak out so much as whining negers
>>52566807
And we literally couldn't care less for your pathetic victim complex.
Get over yourself.
>>52566634
fuck off back to zwarte piet land if you dont like it.
>>52566634
This is probably a bait, but in case it isn't: Fucking nigger. Sorry, can't miss an opportunity to laugh at black "people" on the internet.
>>52566831
Before anyone asks, i'm not a Walloon, Brussels masterrace.
>>52566807
>It's already dying.
Not here at least, everyone loves that character, he's a symbol of hapiness for kids.
>>52566807
nou nou zwarte piet niet zo boos he
>>52566910
You do know that every slave was bought from other Africans who enslaved tribes, right? Are they not guilty of you ancestors being enslaved? Why don't you try to leech on them?
>>52566891
>>52566902
>>52566919
>>52566938
No matter how hard you fucks rage, Zwarte Piet will die. The traditional depictions of him is already dying out, kroeshaar en red lips are starting to be a thing of the past.
Simply a matter of time before walking around as a Zwarte Piet will cause you to get beaten up. You can do that shit in your villages, Randstad is ours.
>>52566750
that shit was really fucking retarted.
>lets just change the tradition by replacing the zwarte piet with fucking disney piece of shit minions.
Those people looked like they were just hit by a bus.
That shit is comparable to replacing the canadian flag with a picture of a clown getting fucked in the arse by a horse.
>>52566634
>I'm black and I was called "zwarte piet"
I'm Moroccan, I wish Dutch people at least had 1 good stereotype about me
You're very lucky
>>52566910
uitkeringpiet is een van de meest voorkomende onder de zwarte heb ik gehoord
>>52567016
>negerpalen
>>52565455
that is legit scary
>>52566910
That's not leeching, that's subjugating. Also see >>52567006
>>52567043
Aren't Moroccans black?
>>52567016
>No matter how hard you fucks rage, Zwarte Piet will die. The traditional depictions of him is already dying out, kroeshaar en red lips are starting to be a thing of the past.
>Simply a matter of time before walking around as a Zwarte Piet will cause you to get beaten up. You can do that shit in your villages, Randstad is ours.
except none of that you are saying is true, literally the only one who are trying to change the looks are some random school in Utrecht and Nickelodeon kids shows, compare that to the rest of the Netherlands.
>the image is changing
>>52567017
>That shit is comparable to replacing the canadian flag with a picture of a clown getting fucked in the arse by a horse.
Would be an improvement, desu
>A FUCKING LEAF
>>52566807
>t. verwarde man
Kijk eens even naar dit prentje met je zwarte kralen. Ik kan het mis hebben hoor, maar het lijkt me vrij duidelijk dat jij tot de minderheid der idioten behoort.
>>52567016
Nigga i dont give a fuck.
Your people dont need a bad image, they already own it by being pieces of shit.
>>52567123
And now, us blacks will subjugate the country to our wish - that zwarte piet must die.
Thanks to big papa America, Christmas is starting to usurp Sinterklaas anyway as the biggest festive day.
>>52567016
>No matter how hard you fucks rage
it only looks like you are the only one who is mad zwartepiet
>>52567131
Not black enough to be associated with the good stereotypes of zwarte piet
>>52567043
We always made jokes (and still do with chill Morrocans) about how your money is either camels or couscous grain and how you all live in mountains.
Al deze Nederlanders die reageren op een ebische miemer die continue het aas blijft uitgooien
>>52566088
>mfw I just remembered I've done this too
>>52567229
Dit om eerlijk te zijn
>>52567255
>>52567229
Zelfdepaler en homo
>>52567133
>>52567153
>>52567160
>>52567175
Keep up your 4chan activism, meanwhile something different is actually happening in real life. Zwarte piet is dying.
Maybe if you keep shitposting on /pol/ though, you can save it.
>>52566088
>>52567237
>dude has larped a nigga
cant make this shit up
>>52567276
Je weet dat je minstens 60 seconden moet wachten om nog een keer te palen in dezelfde draad, toch?
>>52567228
Man fuck these niggers, let us help Sinterklaas.
At least naughty children would be afraid for once.
Sinterklaas being all racist, doesn't hire any Moroccans. Fuck that guy
>>52567276
hallo nieuwvriend
>>52567289
so are you, of AIDS XD
rekt/rekt
>>52567304
2 browsers nigga
>>52567229
I know, but I'm bored anyway
>>52567289
Keep up your 4chan activism, meanwhile something different is actually happening in real life. Zwarte piet isn't dying.
Maybe if you keep shitposting on tumblr though, you can ruin it.
>>52567289
misschien zou je niet zo'n azijnpisser zijn als je zelf gewoon van 4kin af gaat en met wat andere negers gaat rondhangen
>>52567016
Dream on dipshit.
Iedereen blijft het vieren. Waren de pieten dit jaar een andere kleur, nee, dus al dat mierenneukerij heeft niet geholpen.
Het is een Nederlandse traditie in Nederland, wij gaan ons niet zomaar aanpassen aan mensen die hier komen wonen, je mag hier best komen wonen, zolang je ons maar niet verstoord. Dit is america niet, ook al blijkt dat na bijv die rellen in den haag na de dood van een allochtoon mensen dat blijkbaar wel denken, dit is America niet, hier in Nederland zijn zwarten gewoon normaal geaccepteerd, jullie staan boven moslims.
>>52567229
>>52567255
>>52567276
>>52567304
>>52567329
>talking around people in your meme language in a world with google translate
just what are you accomplishing?
>>52567308
I don't know senpai, it's just a Dutch thing to say that he's a racist figure. I even remember some nigger in middle school saying that he wants to work as Zwarte Piet when he grows up.
And a Morrocan Zwarte Piet would just steal all the candy :^)
>>52565599
stop
you're making us look worse than we already are
>>52567388
>esdoornbladpalen
Je kan dit gewoon simpelweg niet verzinnen.
>>52567388
>hij ment werklik woar dejie di dur da kutapparaat kan hoalen
>>52567388
haista sinä ryssäkinukki vittu, koitappa translatee vitun apina niin saat mitalin vitalilta :DD vittu et pysty etkö? vituttaako nami nami lälläslää? vaikka tässä paskassa ei sanota ku vittu nii siltikää et vittu pysty :D:D:D
>>52567386
> Jullie staan boven moslims.
Daar bedoel ik dus mee dat zwarte mensen bijna niet gediscrimineerd worden, maar dat moslims in Nederland gediscrimineerd worden.
>>52567454
>to smell you ryssäkinukki fuck, koitappa Translate fucking monkey get a medal vital to : DD fuck you can not you ? pissed yummy yummy lälläslää ? although this is not said shit to fuck ku nii siltikää you can not fuck : D: D: D
You understand?>>52567388
I think zwarte piets look super cute though, I don't get why blacks get buttmad over it.
How is it racist if they only give out candy and entertain children for Christmas?
>>52567386
>>52567466
Wij worden i.t.t. moslims niet gediscrimineerd omdat Nederlanders dondersgoed weten dat zij ons gekoloniseerd hebben en als slaven hebben gebruikt, ze hebben dus weinig te zeuren.
Moslims daarentegen hebben nooit iets met Nederland te maken gehad en Nederland heeft Moslims nooit zo slecht behandeld in het verleden als wij zijn behandeld.
>>52567386
>america
Amerikaan blootgesteld
>>52567294
How the fuck hasn't this been an issue with some sensitive assholes yet?
>>52567388
>мoё лицo кoгдa ты пидopac кoтopый тoлькo пo aнглийcки гoвopит
>mon visage quand t'es un pédé qui parle que anglais
>>52567549
Because a "zwarte piet" is LITERALLY a slave.
>>52567454
>>52567544
no, Google doesn't speak meme
"smacks lips"
>>52563899
>dat butthurt
hory shet
>>52567551
dus ga je maar zeiken over je slaven verleden op een online forum tegen blanke mensen?
>>52567574
I bet my balls several flowerhat lady have moaned about it. Like anyone gives a fuck tho unless they're influental.
>>52567631
Welcome chubak
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
>>52567599
LITERALLY a freed slave willingly working for Sint Nicolaas.
>>52567606
>talking around people in your meme language in a world with google translate
checkm8 m8
ime musta peten kullia vitun rotta :D servattu ja lervattu
hallo mijn nederlandse vrienden
>>52567685
Not chubek
But can confirm he's not dead
>>52565729
I had to play Baltasar too because I have kinky hair
>>52567400
>And a Morrocan Zwarte Piet would just steal all the candy :^)
See this is why I hate black people complaining about zwarte piet, if there was a moroccan piet the first association with moroccans would be free candy and not theft or terrorism. those would be number 2 and 3 of our hobbies
>>52567551
>Nederlanders dondersgoed weten dat zij ons gekoloniseerd hebben en als slaven hebben gebruikt
Serieus? Nog steeds dat kaartje aan het spelen?
>>52563899
There is nothing racist about Zwarte Piet though.
>>52567720
Hallo Canadese vriend, wat brengt je hier?
>>52567551
Nederland heeft veel slechte dingen gedaan in het verleden, dat weten we allemaal, maar we zijn nu in 2015 en veel dingen zijn verandert. Ik kan jou garanderen dat wij jullie niet 'alleen laten' omdat wij ons schuldig voelen of omdat wij dergelijke gevoelens hebben, maar omdat jullie nu gewoon net zoals de rest van de mensen hier Nederlanders zijn. Marokkanen in tegendeel zijn door bepaalde politici gebruikt om bekend te worden (van gogh, geert wilders, etc) en Marokkanen zijn ook gewoon nieuw, over een paar jaar (tientallen misschien) zijn ze net als jullie gewoon geaccepteerd in onze samenleving.
>>52567599
No man, he gets paid a good wage. Has 28 paid vacation days a year, gets health insurance and everything.
I asked Sinterklaas, he told me
>>52567599
>Because a "zwarte piet" is LITERALLY a slave.
Even if that's true, nobody remembers that do they? It's been hundreds of years. Nowadays people probably associate happiness and good things with them, not slavery.
If zwarte piets were in chains or were treated badly I agree that it'd be problematic, but as it stands, zwarte piet is a positive character.
>>52567848
Mate, he has vacation 11 months a year eating appeltjes van oranje, the lazy fucking cunt
>>52567831
om eerlijk te zijn blijven alle moslims en zwarten het imago hebben van het slechtere deel van de bevolking
FUCK OFF WORLD ZWARTE PIET IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
I can tell you from experience that white Flemish/Dutch kids growing up do not associate Zwarte Piet with racism, oppression, slavery or any of that crap. He was just a guy who brought presents to good children and made them laugh with his goofiness. Oh yea and he was black.
I once volunteered to dress up as Zwarte Piet in my last year of high school to hand out candy to the younger kids (>inb4 Belgium pedo joke), it has nothing to do with race ffs. There are only positive emotions involved.
>>52567831
Vergeet niet dat de "huidige" multiculturele samenleving pas is ontstaan nadat het grootste deel van de zwarte bevolking hier al was gekomen. De Turken en Marokkanen hebben nog steeds hun eigen subcultuur, zijn nog steeds grotendeels tweetalig en afwijkend in geloof en gebruiken. Van een Afrikaanse gemeenschap die analoog naast de samenleving loopt, is bijna geen sprake, tenzij je Surinamers of Antillianen bedoelt.
>>52567902
why do you as a Hungarian understand it better than the group of whining """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""dutch""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""?
>>52563899
Great video on the topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRT_Y709VnA
>>52568006
>Dutch santa
You literally stole santa claus from our Sinterklaas.
>>52567549
>I don't get why blacks get buttmad over it.
They really really don't. 99% of blacks here don't give a fuck.
>>52567992
Because the people that whine will manipulate anything to fit their victim complex.
>>52563899
How is that even racist? They are dressing up as a figure from their festive folklore who happens to black.
fucking sjws I swear
>>52568006
>christmas
dropped
at least put in some effort
>>52567923
Alleen moslims en zwarten die in ghetto achtelijke wijken wonen, maar niet de rest, en de Nederlanders (blanken met blond haar) die daar wonen worden ook gezien als de slechtere gedeelte van de bevolking, of terwijl, iedereen die daar woont wordt zo gezien, geen racisme dus, en logisch.
I don't see any problem with it honestly. From what I've seen, only positivity's involved and it has nothing to do with race or racism. Tumblrinas need to shut up. The entire world doesn't function like America does.
>>52567902
Yes, easy for you to say, but that's not the case. He's still seen as a servant. Otherwise Dutch people wouldn't use it to bully black people, like they did with me.
>>52568006
wow, that gave me cancer on so many levels
>>52568088
That's because it's here. Have you ever noticed that niggers here or hell, anyone, doesn't go around screaming "racism"?
Well at least in Brussels :^)
Fun fact: I grew up in a small town in the east of the Netherlands, and had never seen a black person with my own eyes outside of television ads untill well in my teens. I did see Zwarte piet though, each year they brought gifts and that was fun. I never connected the two.
>>52568203
We can't help it you are a real life black pete though.
>>52568006
1:16
>IT'S 2015!!!!!!!! WHY DOES THIS TRADITION STILL EXIST????!!!!
>>52568006
its funny because she doesn't even know what she is talking about. Literally the title of the video is telling a lie already
>>52568006
She didn't even research anything on the topic.
>>52568203
Then why do black people even come to the Netherlands if they get their feelings hurt each year by something part of their host culture that doesn't affect them? They have nearly an entire continent to themselves where they don't run into "blackface" (which is a retarded word btw).
>Inb4 muh colonialism
It's been literally decades
>>52566423
>>>/amerika/
>>52568225
They're still afraid of the ghost of Leopold still haunting the country, cutting of the hands of every naughty black chil
>>52568329
They want to benefits but not the burdens.
>>52568329
I'm not from an African country, as a matter of fact your ancestors brought me to South America a while back.
No I live here because I want to leech, similarly to how your ancestors leeched off of my ancestors.
>>52568203
waarom hang je zo vast aan het verleden? HET IS 2015 GODVERDOMME!!!!!!!!!!!
>>52568379
Well, you're doing a good job then, parasite.
>>52568006
This shit is absolutely fucking hilarious.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
>>52568379
I repeat my off, I will gladly buy you a one way ticket to Ghana. The place my ancestors bought your ancestors.
But for heavens sake stay there. There's no zwarte piet there, only Ebola
Is dit de nieuwe Nederdraad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtRy2Mppew4
Zeg, waarom is Sinterklaas altijd blank. Het wordt toch eens tijd voor een gekleurde klaas. Of een vrouwelijk Sinterklaas. Misschien tijd voor enkele quotas.
>>52568006
>the 2015 meme is real to so many people
>>52568379
als ik je geld geef kun je dan opkankeren?
>>52568517
Don't worry. The 2015 meme will soon be over.
>>52568379
>I'm not from an African country
Black=African in the English language.
I don't consider Aboriginals, Melanesians and Andamanese black
>as a matter of fact your ancestors brought me to South America
My ancestors? I'm a Sallander not a Hollander, we lost relevance during the fall of the Hanseatic League, well before the Atlantic Slave trade. Those people had nothing to do with me.
Now we're on the topic:
Does zwarte piet porn actually exist?
>Does zwarte piet porn actually exist?
>Does zwarte piet porn actually exist?
>Does zwarte piet porn actually exist?
>Does zwarte piet porn actually exist?
>>52568006
Wonderful video, completely agree with this.
>>52568349
>niggers call these arches "the arches of cut hands" because it was built with money from rubber and gold trade that came from the Congo
>i walk under it every day when going to work
>can't even post face to express my keks
>>52568548
Similarly, I'm living in Holland, not Overijssel, so I have nothing to do with you.
>mfw the more the blacks bitch about Zwarte Piet, the more the rest of the population will defend it
Seriously, if the blacks here wanted a constructive dialogue about ZP and it's image, I would not have minded if some changes were made (like brushes of face paint instead of full black), but there has been no constructive dialogue, just literal chimp outs of some blacks who called everyone that celebrates it racist. Fuck those sincerely and fuck anyone who wants to change it.
>>52568203
Look, I'm not apologizing for those bullies, what they did to you was shit, racism in general is shit. But if there wasn't a zwarte piet, they would've called you something else, you do realize that right? That's just how racist minds work, they'll always find something to hurt you with. Best not to pay any attention at all to them.
>>52568574
wait is this the arch Belgium build to celebrate their independence from the Netherlands?
If so, then fuck you it offends me. Tear it down.
>>52565599
>sigh
>>52568006
>>52568543
And replaced by 2016
>>52568574
>>52568651
The arches of stolen rightfully Dutch clay
>>52568633
This. I would be okay with some minor changes. I don't want Zwarte Piet to turn into a generic clown.
>>52568651
>>52568761
Well, yeah, it was built for the fiftieth anniversary of Belgian independence, but the whole thing about independence from the Netherlands is kind of a meme, Britain gave this previously French clay to the Dutch king for being a good boy and in fifteen years, francophone catholics rebelled and we became free.
t. bruxellois
>>52568761
Everything under the Rhine is Belgian clay, rightfully.
>>52568861
Agreed.
>>52568861
Belgium and Luxembourg rightful Dutch kingdom clay desu
>>52568913
>klei weggeven
>ooit
>>52568861
>>52568913
>>52568926
Clovis, Charlemagne and Karl the Fifth were born on modern Belgian clay, so all of Europe belongs to Belgium.
>>52568847
>>52568861
Next thing you guys are gonna say the famous Dutch painters were Belgian as well
>"Belgian land"
>"Dutch land"
We are all part of the United Netherlands, don't fall for jewish divide and conquer tactics.
Samen kunnen we de Franstaligen verwijderen!
>>52568942
Limburg is geen Nederland.
>>52568974
Only the best ones.
>>52568861
All of the Netherlands belongs to Belgium tbqh
As long as the House of Orange-Nassau remains on the throne.
>>52568942
Ok, alles onder de Maas dan. Win win.
>>52568995
A big chunk is still missing, desu
If """""""""belgium""""""""""never gained independence, nobody would speak french as a first language.
Flemish people are just cucks
>>52568974
Well duh, obviously. It's not like Antwerp is Belgian or anything.
>>52568995
>Samen kunnen we de Franstaligen verwijderen!
Give Brussels independence or give us a border with Walloons you cunts.
We good boys, we dindu nuffin.
>Vlamingen denken dat Vlaams speciaal is
Waarom?
>>52568995
>Het courante jaar
>taalnationalist zijn
>>52567016
Blacks should thrown out of Europe, and the criminals among them executed. There is no reason to allow them in, and plenty of reason to throw them out.
>>52569140
Die kaart negeert alle stadsdialecten.
>>52569039
Da's raar. Ik zou een Benelux unie nog willen overwegen, op voorwaarde dat de vorst niet van oranje is.
Principekwestie.
>>52567043
>>52568548
Same. my ancestors are from scotland.
>>52563899
Why the fuck do you care about this you cunt? Stop being a fagget and stop looking up this "tradition" if it bothers you so much.
>>52569140
Omdat we geen hollanders zijn aja.
>>52569209
Geloof je nou echt onironisch dat de Nederlandse bevolking open staat voor het afstand doen van hun koningshuis?
>>52569140
I don't speak Flemish, but it does sound like an unpolished version of Dutch desu family
Guess because because the Flemish were peasants (no offense) for a good deal of Belgian history.
>>52569209
Maar Nederland zit nou niet echt te wachten op een Franstalige vorst, ben ik bang.
>2015, almost 2016
>not an Orangist
come on!
>>52569129
>Give Brussels independence or give us a border with Walloons
I hate doing this but it's gotten so bad that I will gladly give up Sint-Genesius-Rode, Halle, Lot, Drogenbos and all the Frenchified towns between Brussels and Wallonia to give you your stupid fucking corridor, on the one condition that Flanders remains monolingual, no more compromises. No more "I don't speak Flemish but every Fleming speaks French anyways so I can live in Flanders and only speak French for the rest of my life".
>>52569400
>ik ben uw konijn
>>52569439
What's the point of a corridor? They can't read Dutch road signs?
The Netherlands should have a corridor to Wallonia desu. Don't want to deal with the Flemish while going to Wallonia, home of the fries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dHs4W8P0QU
>>52569150
God Jul Anders.
>>52569439
>Rhode-Saint-Genèse actually has a lot of nice expensive houses and everything looks pretty on the Waterloo avenue
>everyone speaks french
And Brussels has nice borders so just a tiny corridor would be enough desu
>>52569261
Het is erg genoeg op zich dat de eerste 'moderne' republiek een koning verdraagt. Maar dan nog een Nassau, één van de meest waardeloze huizen van de recente geschiedenis.
Hun enige meerwaarde ligt in die éne dag waar je met oranje vlaggen kunt zwaaien en met de handjes wuiven.
>>52569627
>Spaanse juk afwerpen
>Engelsen kukken vanop hun troon
>waardeloos
>>52569627
De Nederlandse koning is een aardige diplomaat. Gaat constant op handelsmissies (aka lobbyen in het buitenland met de kapiteinen der industrie).
>>52569439
>I hate doing this but it's gotten so bad that I will gladly give up Sint-Genesius-Rode, Halle, Lot, Drogenbos and all the Frenchified towns between Brussels and Wallonia to give you your stupid fucking corridor, on the one condition that Flanders remains monolingual, no more compromises. No more "I don't speak Flemish but every Fleming speaks French anyways so I can live in Flanders and only speak French for the rest of my life".
Wat maakt dat nu een schijt uit wat voor taal dat iemand spreekt. Voor mijn part spreken ze Navajo in St. Genesius Rode. Zolang ze maar leven voor het vaderland (Vlaanderen of België) en haar nobele waarden.
Alléja, voor iemand die daar woont is dat wel zuur.
>>52569627
>Belgische koningshuis
>>52568729
>forced star wars nostalgia
>fat
>feminist/50's housewife chic style
>it's 2015 meme
im as liberal as they come... but holy fuck this made me barf in my mouth
>>52569627
There's literally nothing wrong with my king, except for marrying a black woman.
>>52569754
>I'm as liberal as they come
then you're just as bad
>>52569754
Get out of here, it's an BENELUX thread at this point.
>>52568995
I wonder, what would be destined borders of united Low Countries? Or were those of Seven Provinces already good enough?
I know there's Friesland in Germany and I think Denmark? Also that "Belgian" had some claim on French territory, I think Nord Pas de Calais?
>If """""""""belgium""""""""""never gained independence, nobody would speak french as a first language.
Yeah it's just sad, but giving away your southern land and annexing flanders shouldn't rather be considered
>>52569209
Oranje Benelux ja!
>>52569694
Ik dacht dat Willem III geen Nassau was?
Ben ik hier fout?
>>52569773
Keek.
Maar lekker wijf, serieus.
>>52569439
>>52569726
What does the rest of Belgium think about Brussels anyways? Are we like the equivalent of asshole parisians who pretend to be better than everyone or are we seen as something else?
>>52569825
Second meant to >>52569074
>>52569748
De eerste drie waren vrij gebaseerd.
Albert I > Leo II > Leo I > DE REST > Boudewijn
>>52569825
What he posted basically only in the far south do you get some hills.
>>52569825
Friesland in Germany has been part of the kingdom during the time of Napoleon, but Danish Frisia has never been part of the kingdom.
The area around Cleves and Geldern in Germany has traditionally been Dutch speaking, as has part of Nord-Pas de Calais (Still known as French Flanders).
>>52563899
De zwarte piet is an honorable black man. But you, you are a kankerneger.
>>52569890
Leopold II was inderdaad niet slecht, de Zwarte Piet-discussie waarmee dit topiek startte in ogenschouw nemend.
>>52569835
Ja.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Orange-Nassau#Stadtholderate_under_the_House_of_Orange-Nassau
>>52563899
Don't be racist anon it's their tradition! don't be overbearing, black non-natives should handle offensive heritage customs
It's not like any of the medieval customs were ever removed in today's world! The netherlandians are an ancient people who have kept their way since antiquity.
>>52570074
Funny that you mention that, Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet is likely a continuation of the pagan tradition of Wodan and his Ravens bringing gifts during the winter solistice.
>>52569825
The historically Flemish part of contemporary France is lost forever, it is more French than Flemish at this point.
>>52569825
These show the old provinces. In the current situation Artois and Picardia are an exaggeration. You can add East Frisia if you want to go crazy with it.
>>52569924
>>52569963
OK, thanks for help!
I was preparing mod for Civ V and what angered me that for relatively small country as you (I think in previous parts too) belgian and luxembourgish cities were not included in the city list, despite the nation being obviously centered on Seven Provinces and lead by William I
>>52570179
Zwarte Piet is more like Krampus i'd say. Instead of giving coal to bad kids, he whips them. At least that's what i assume, i don't even really know what he does to bad kids, his french name is literally "Whipping Dad".
>>52570240
You might be surprised that people are actively learning Flemish and Dutch in these regions.
>>52569825
>>52570253
Forgot picture
>>52570074
My country, my rules. Don't like it? Leave.
>>52569856
Only certain kinds of Flemish speaking Bruxellois are the equivalent of Parisians. The rest is cool.
>>52566969
How edgy of you Chile...
Guys, hold on one moment.
Why doesn't Stephen Hawking get a better speech synthesizer?
>>52570240
>>52570253
>>52570368
thank you lads
I need to interest myself in studying history of low countries more
do you know any 4chan archive which includes /int/ board? so I won't lost these informations eventually lol
>>52570458
>Flemish speaking Bruxellois
What the fuck, wouldn't those be Brusselnaars? Has it really gotten that bad over there?
>>52569828
Afgekeurd.
En het land mag ook niet Benelux noemen.
Benelux is een naam voor een groothandel in lamellen.
>>52570559
De lage landen oetz.
>netherlands-flanders unification
Why stop there?
>>52570525
Ik zeg ofwel Bruxellois of Brusseleirs.
>>52570525
I've lived near Brussels for most of my life, we say "Bruxellois" in Flemish more so than "Brusselaars".
>you will never be this Brussels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q80gc7CvHvE
>>52570458
Thanks senpai but what do you mean by "certain kinds of Flemish speaking Bruxellois"?
Bruxellois died out after WW2, so did Walloon (mostly) we speak French here, even our king does.
Also surprised no one posted our cute Anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9u_Ituu2Q8
>>52570720
I like ours better, to be completely honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwBrR_G70RE
>>52570792
It's not as cute as the Belgian one, but does sound really good, even if i can't understand shit.
>>52570720
this is the only anthem I know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUYyjzuyyfg
>>52570720
Sort of yuppies, mostly born and raised in Flanders proper, who work in Brussels and then decide to stay in Brussels because it's so cosmopolitan and multicultural and what not.
Bruxellois just means someone from Brussels to some of us.
I like the Wallonian anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=BE&v=s0G6-U9ZRGk
>>52570905
Alright, got it senpai.
>tfw brussels doesn't even have an anthem
>tfw the regional flag got it's shit fucked up
>>52571018
Better then their new logo, at least.
>>52571018
Well, if it makes you feel better, we now have this as official style
>>52571081
kek
>>52571081
pls no bully
Everyone knew for at least 30 years that Molenbeek was turning into a shithole but no one lifted a finger. Now it backfired.
>>52571115
At least it looks better than some grey heart penetrating an asian ass.
>>52567016
youre adorable
why are 2nd gens so dumb?
>>52566634
reminder that this is a canuck on a proxy
>>52571357
cos muh slavery
>whiteface ft snsd
>>52563899
Please stop embarrassing us, Justin
>>52563899
Nicely done. The Dutch bought the bait.
>>52573085
The thread completely derailed though
