>Andreas M. (57), from Freital, Germany, raises his arm to a nazi salute in provocation toward a group of demonstrators for human and refugees rights, who were marching nearby.
>He gets then calmly approached from behind by a police officer, who gently lower his arms and informs him that he's under arrest for "use of gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations".
>If charged, he faces 3 years in jail.
Just a reminder that in an allegedly-free First World Western nation, you can be arrested for holding your arm up at an angle.
and in america the police will shoot you dead if you dont hear the fat fuck in a police uniform mumbe staaph
fuck off nigger
"freedom ain't free"
>do shit that against the law
>get arrested
>bawwwwwwwww why is he arrested. europe is doomed bawwwwwwwww mudslimes bawwww
>>52545120
this pic is old
you lazy amerifat
>If charged, he faces 3 years in jail.
nope, he doesn't
>you can be arrested for
nope, he wasn't
OP is a fagget
>>52546260
So was he arrested? Face a fine? Let me know Adolf.
>>52545167
kek
I remember a story about some slovene neo nazis who went to an event in Germany and ended up being attacked for being slavshits.
Fun
>>52545371
>claim that nazis were bad people and censured everything
>democracies censure everything about nazism
>>52545371
>>52545371
holy shit
literally nobody prior to your comment said anything about muslims
you are a fucking attention whore
get the fuck out
>>52545120
I mean how big of a cuck you must be to necessarily go to lower the bloke's arm. You could like let him continue his shit,he was just raising his arm,but yout really felt the need for that
>>52545120
>
>>52545120
>our concept of free speech is universally applicable
>all countries should be the same
>>52548538
Kek
There's a lot of Polish American Nazis in the Chicago area. I find this endlessly entertaining.
Serves him right
Fascism must be stopped before it gains traction
Germans can't forget their sad history
>>52549958
>what is rule of law
This is why eastern yurop is corrupt as fuck.
I remember reading this article the week it was published:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dogs-nazi-salute-lands-owner-in-jail-for-five-months-766438.html
>>52550034
Indeed it is comrade. Since our rights are granted to us by god himself, and inherent for all men. Anything less is oppression and tyranny.
>>52550165
>oppression and tyranny
>universal healthcare
>american """""freedom""""" of speech
>>52550251
>he thinks television comedies are an accurate depiction of reality
>>52550467
>D-designated f-freedom of speech zones d-dont exist in USA
>>52550467
Plz give link to the song, I have been searching forever!
>>52550567
Sand Ciorba - Pe Cimpoi.
>>52550521
Next time, use an example that isn't 1) from a fucking college and 2) isn't linked to a case in which such things were deemed unconstitutional and banned by law.
Where did you even get this retarded idea? /pol/?
>>52550567
Ce Pimpoi
>>52545167
laughed
>>52550717
What good is free speech if you can't make use of it because of your two party system?
>>52550796
>free speech
>two party system
Wut
>>52550717
>I s-swear g-guys f-freedom of s-speech exist in USA
'dinosaur'
>>52545120
who gives a shit frankly
>>52550860
>no proofs
>must meme
Find one solid example. Do it.
>>52550796
Do you think that other political parties are literally banned or something?
>>52550859
you can be a nazi in the US but it doesn't help you because you can't gain political influence
You can have every constitutional popular opionion (national conserative - democratic socialist) and party in Germany that has the chance of sucess in the elections.
Today we have Nazis/radical nationalists (National Democratic Party), national/economic conseratives AfD (Alternative for Germany), Economical Conseratives (CDU), European Liberals (FDP), Social Democrats (SPD), US tier liberals (Pirate Party), Greens and Socialists (The Left Party) in regional and federal parliaments.
>>52550903
But if """freedom""" of speech is guaranteed in america then why if you say spic, nigger or more racial slurs you get memed?
>>52545120
Can one wear a KKK outfit on an anti immigrant meeting in the US without facing any consequences?
>>52550954
no, but they have an extremely hard time getting into goverment and parliament positions.
In Germany every party that isn't openly anticonstitutional can get seats in local, regional and federal goverments without problem.
>>52551078
>doing nazi salute means you are a nazi
there is the first flaw in your reasoning germany
>>52551115
>>52551090
>freedom of speech means not having to suffer social consequences for what you say
Your life will still be ruined if you do these things, it's just that you can't face legal action for it.
>>52551151
>doing nazi salute means you are a nazi
What else?
Hail the emperor?
>>52551078
>>52551090
Freedom of speech does not guarantee freedom from consequences. It means we can't be jailed for expressing an idea.
The reason certain opinions don't gain influence is that they're unpopular.
>>52551115
The government can not do anything but criticize you. You can not be jailed or fined for it.
In my state, Colorado, it would be illegal for an employer to fire someone for this, too.
>>52551148
I don't really see how it would make much of a difference if the Republicans broke up into libertarian, neo-conservative, and traditionalist parties; and the Democrats broke up into greens, socialists, and liberals, the same people would be in power just divided into different camps.
The two parties do act like a mafia though.
>>52551302
Then it isn't freedom of speech but no having laws against it.
>>52545371
I hope you and your shithole get nuked.
>>52551380
What?
Freedom of speech includes the rights of others to criticize and act against you for offending them. We have a right to offend, but no right to not be offended.
>>52551380
What would you have then? Laws protecting you from any form of social stigma or criticism no matter what you say?
>>52551446
Oh.
So that's the "freedom" of speech
That's pretty retard.
>>52551475
See >>52551468
What do you propose?
Also, your English is shit. Maybe you shouldn't be using an English language board, you retarded dago.
>>52551520
To have real freedom of speech?
Also your english is shit too :)
It would be a bit nice if traitorous self-haters were hanged in my humble opinion.
>>52551520
i bet your italian is a lot better than his english
>>52551631
It is, and that's why I'm always posting on Italian language boards.
Oh, wait...
>>52551604
>real freedom of speech
Define this.
>your english is shit too
>no u
No, it's not.
>>52551687
>I will judge you by your grammar on a language that isnt yours even when your pronunciation is perfect and you have a c2 certification on english and other 2 languages
>you can't post in my secret ckub if your grammar isn't perfect
Sigh... how come Americans are always in damage control?
>>52551741
He's obviously pointing out that a negative right to freedom from governmental curtailment of your freedom of speech is not the same as being able to say whatever you want free of any sort of negative consequence
>>52551803
>muh certificates
You still sound like a dumb dago.
Address the free speech point instead of trying to divert attention to my ad hominem shitflinging. How do you define free speech? Is it the ability to say what you like without others having the reciprocal right?
>>52551980
>>52551980
>being able to say whatever you want free of any sort of negative consequence
...as that would limit everyone else's freedom of speech.
>>52551209
it could be that he is making a point, calling out the mannerisms of the demonstrators, equivocating them to nazis.
>>52551986
>certifications are stupid lol
I didn't expected an american to understand....
Anyway pretty much this >>52551980
>>52552025
I wasn't necessarily agreeing with him, but when you consider dworkin's approach to the question 'what is law?', where he considers law to be defined by meta 'rules of recognition' which include normative social factors, your claim to have freedom of speech based purely on written law and excluding social consquence starts to look a little flimsy
>>52552120
And what about everyone else's freedom of speech? You've never addressed this point.
This is seriously SJW-tier bullshit.
http://youtu.be/9IEFD_JVYd0
>>52552216
It applies for everyone.
Are you ""pretending"" to be retard to ""ruse"" me or what?
>>52552216
this guy is edgy
>>52552213
>when you consider dworkin's approach
I don't.
Please, somebody give an example of an alternative system in which the rights of everyone are protected.
>>52552285
You're talking in circles. Please, describe a system in which everyone gets to express themselves free of consequence.
>>52552451
The concept of freedom of speech pretty much contradicts the rules a society has set.
The fact of being able to tell whatever you want without repercussions is almost impossible since people may get offended if you insult them.
Therefore there's no real freedom of speech and there will never be.
That was my point..Americans think they have freedom of speech but actually no one does.
A society where TOTAL freedom of speech is guaranteed isn't posible to obtain.
TL;DR :Freedom isn't free
>>52552327
>>52552451
No such thing. But don't pretend the US system is perfect or 'freer' than anyone else's without actually considering the practical ability you have to express yourself publically. Who gives a shit if the government can't fine you for calling all niggers trash on fb when the result of doing so is that you will be fired, divorced and made a pariah for life.
Wasn't communism banned in USA during cold war and considered treason?
Is thread kill?
>>52552619
no
we just spied on all the commies and propagandad them into oblivion
>>52552619
No, just "anti American" things and they used it to persecute famous people.
>>52548538
>>52548859
>>52550079
nothing wrong with being a strasserist nazi t.b.h.
>>52550034
Free speech literally means "free" speech. If you can get arrested for saying something controversial, it is not free. Period.
Germany is a great place, but it does not have total freedom of speech, as evidenced.
>>52550079
Because of all the niggers and spice they have to fight
>>52552327
That Italian is fucking retarded.
Yes, freedom of speech by necessity includes the rights of other people to disagree with you. These nanny-state idiots seriously think true freedom of speech would mean protecting you from having your feelings hurt?
>>52551475
>>52551380
Kill yourself, you make no sense.
>>52551631
Irrelevant. He's not in an Italian imageboard. He isn't expected or required to be fluent in the language.
>>52545167
lmao
>>52556154
>sucking American cocks both irl and on the Internet
Viado твн
>>52557750
Not really. I just have this mild autismo thing where I can't stand see people being wrong and not correct them.
I'm not in the business of defending Americans unless they are in the right.
>>52548859
This so much
>>52558001
but im not wrong.
Having autism =/= being a genius
>>52548538
>I remember a story about some slovene neo nazis who went to an event in Germany and ended up being attacked for being slavshits.
>Fun
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Germany
>land of the free home of the brave
Fucking joke country
>Americans literally impose anti-nazi laws like the one featured in OP
>"hurrr freedurm of spurch violated"
Besides, what about the free speech zone cages in the US?
>being put in a cage when speaking your mind
>>52561437
Quiet Turk
>>52561514
JUST
Fuck off back to /pol/ you aspie
>>52552088
>>52552088
Are you Real?
Like "i'm just keeping theese black people as slaves cause i just wanna know how it feels to have slaves, and that i call them nigger doesnt mena i value them less"
>>52551980
Then words are meaningless and it isn't speech.
Why are wops so retarded?
>>52552569
>>52552576
1. Laws don't have social aspects, they're only written on paper and enforced.
2. It is free speech because it's free from spooks such as laws restricting it, the only thing that influences it are real things such as social norms
>>52558381
>reads dworkins
>thinks he's a genius
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