Which is the better state of Germany?
Bavaria
they have castles and Oktoberfest and shit
Alsa...oh yea, no
Bavaria.
Probably because they aren't actual Germans.
When I traveled to Germany I heard a conversation between two German old gentlemen
They were talking about South Germans being fat,lazy,problematic and racially inferior to northern Germans
Was it a joke or something? I mean, South Germany is fucking great
in school we learn it's bavaria, but I don't know the red pilled answer
Saxony
>>52516010
Meh
>>52515813
Bavaria, BW and Rhineland are probably the comfiest for a frogperson like us.
Also Saarland is right ful clay
>>52516152
swiss are pornographicly rich, they make germans look bad in maps
>>52515886
>castles
other's have more of that
>>52516282
This, lots and lots along the Middle Rhine
>>52516282
Bavarians were kings, have some respect
Its bavaria.
Good landscapes,
Good food.
Good beer.
Best economy.
Best salaries.
But it was not always so. Bavaria is the biggest war winner of all the german states. A little fact they often forget. That it was, before the war, very rural area is still pretty much alive in their culture.
>>52516282
Yeah but it's the fancy fairy tale castles isn't it? Not a huge fan myself, but architectural/technical feats none the less
Give me map with immigrant population and I will tell you?
>>52516327
There were 4 kingdoms before the unification of germany.
>>52516282
>mfw Americans think that a state is good because of the number of castles
>>52515813
I am from Nordrhein-Westfalen, but it's filled with muslims and huge coal power plants.
But Schleswig-Holstein ist pretty cool.
>>52516368
They are all over the place.
Its just the most famous one is in bavaria.
>>52516381
>>52516368
Thinking of Neuschwanstein I guess? Well it's actually more of a retro thing, built only in the 19th century
Rhine and Mosel have lots of older ones
>>52516349
I guess not beig bombed to shit helps.
If i'm more of a city what would you recommend? I'm not allergic to coproderms if they're well behaved.
>>52516458
the Disney looking one? Is it considered a meme castle among castle patricians?
>>52516397
>no one has posted a Bavarian Alberto Barbosa
>>52516514
Lösche das bitte
>>52516535
>Neuschwanstein
ja, this one
>>52516368
Reichsburg Cochem, Burg Hohenzollern
Arleady two which are, in my opinion, better than Schloss Neuschwanstein
>>52516423
Leave the Ruhrgebiet/the east of cologne, my friend, Sauerland, for example, is great
>>52515813
Bavaria, and Bade-Wurtemberg
>>52515813
Württemberg
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>>52515813
Austria
>>52516622
that looks very pretty in the fall, my transrhiner friend
>>52516514
So Thuringia/Mecklenburg/Anhalt. Choose from these.
>Best
Baden - Wurtemberg
>Worst
North Rhine - Westaphalia
>>52516514
>rural
>poor
>underdeveloped
It's just like East Germany with less unemployment, yet they still come here, wtf
>>52515813
SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN
when will you limp-wristed pussies take back Prussia from Polish occupiers?
>tfw ancestors were from Lower Saxony, Bavaria and south silesia
South Silesia has already been take by Poland, it is only a matter of time before bavaria and lower saxony become Lower Syria Halalvaria
>>52516692
This one is good too.
>>52516730
Holländer maybe? It doesn't say non-EU
>>52516742
Never t'bh lad
>>52516742
When Old Prussians return. So never really.
>>52516730
Since when rural is a synonym of bad? I'd rather live in a rural place than in North Rhine - Westphalia.
>>52516687
>dutch not beeing more german than austria or bavaria
kanker mongo
>>52516786
An die hab ich gar nicht gedacht, die sind fast do wie Deutsche. Danke, fühle mich etwas besser :3
>>52516742
Dear God no, after the DDR, PIGS and now half of the Levant, the last we need is another money sinkhole
>>52516327
>>52516787
>>52516803
shame
>>52516858
save it before it is reduced to complete shit like the rest of Poland
>>52516813
Immigrants tend to go to urban areas. But as Germanbro #54 pointed out, there's a lot of Dutchies which are okay
>>52516716
If you just look at the east the south (thuringia, saxony) is best.
Berlin is a meme town full of turks and leftists.
Meck-pomm, Brandenburg and Anhalt is basicly empty with no industry and potato farms
No one answered my city question >>52516561
Which are the good ones? I know Berlin is universally hated on this board, but I wouldn't mind spending a few days there.
What about Hamburg, Frankfort etc. Is there more to those than harbours for the former and financial districts for the latter?
I've been to Munchen, beautiful but too quaint for my taste
>>52516937
>quaint
**quiet, how could i fuck this up
>>52516932
Yes I actually though as much, and wanted to say Saxony at first.
>>52515813
Gudanesk
>>52516937
>but too quaint for my taste
If you want to "party" then you won't find much else other than the kebab shitholes of Berlin, Hamburg and Köln
Don't forget we're just way more decentralised than you
>>52516692
The whole Moseltal is beautiful
>>52516813
There are also many rural areas in NRW. Around Münster, Sauerland, the north of the Eifel. This is Monschau, a qt town in the Eifel in NRW
>>52516937
DON'T go to Frankfurt. It's boring as hell, there's literally nothing to do.
Hamburg is pretty cool, but most of the attractions are around the harbour, if you are talking about those.
>>52516785
Best one desu
>>52516937
Frankfurt is not a good tourist city.
Hamburg is very underrated and often overlooked.
>Bavaria
>>52517085
>Moseltal
Beautiful mang, I went to a village in NRW for a school trip, one of the nicest places I've ever seen
>>52517020
>If you want to "party" then you won't find much else other than the kebab shitholes of Berlin, Hamburg and Köln
kek
>>52516937
Köln, Hamburg and Berlin are great cities. Hamburg is a beautiful city with lots of bridges and water. Other than the harbour there is the famous fish market, the Miniatur Wunderland, the Reeperbahn, many good restaurants etc.
Frankfurt on the other hand is pretty boring. It has a nice small oldtown (with parts being reconstructed at the moment) and the skyscrapers, but other than that, there isn't much to do. I would rather recommend Köln.
>>52517020
What about culture, history and way of life in general?
>>52517085
Nah I meant that those place are more well know their economic output.
>>52517148
Too bad since frankfurt is but a train ride away
Thanks, i'll think about Hamburg if I get the opportunity. I need to go to Germany, we're neighbours after all!
>>52516410
>he doesn't judge a European state by the number of castles
baka desu senpai
Lower-Saxonist here, and I say either Baden-Wurtemberg or Bavaria, can't choose though.
>>52516932
Berlin is also full of eastern Europeans
The one which has Glashütte obviously.
And then the one where they make Riesling.
>>52517288
thank you
>>52516738
right answer, mate!
Baden-Württemberg
Best universities
>Heidelberg, KIT, Freiburg
Best food
>Kirchtorte, Pfannkuchen
Best forest
>Schwarzwald
Best businesseses
>Daimler AG, Lidl und Kaufland, Audi, SAP, Pharma
I don't care what you thank, NRW is the best. You have tons of big cities with much going going in them, but also many nice rural areas.
>>52517269
Well there are castles all over the place. Every 5th village has one.
You just hear about the famous ones all the time.
>>52517370
>Schwarzwald
What can you legally do there camping wise?
I'd love to trek through it
>>52517370
Audi is from Baviaria (Originally Saxony)
>>52517408
this
> but muh Neuschwarnstein!
overrated, Glücksburg, SH incoming
>>52517456
You typically have to rent out a camping spot. I paid around 5EU or so.
>>52517374
Eh, it's just one big blob city/suburbia mix without any historical core and not organically grown but quickly raised up in the 19th and early 20th centuries from previous villages thanks to coal boom
>Dortmund had 7200 inhabitants in 1840
>>52517370
>doesn't mention spätzle and maultaschen
>>52517370
Sorry, but that's a non-ranking.
Best businesses.. no
Poland is inside Germany
>>52517556
What the fuck are you talking about? Every big city has it's historical core, cities like cologne are almost two thousand years old and if you call villages like Monschau "suburbia" you are fukcing stupid.
>>52517507
Audi is actually still in Ingolstadt, Bavaria.
>>52517714
I was talking about the Ruhrpott exclusively here
>>52517581
Where is spätzle from?
>>52517777
Those cities are also more than a thousand years old.
>>52517777
Which doesn't represent NRW at all.
>>52516803
Prussians the Baltic ones still exist. They fled with the Krauts as the liberators closed in.
>>52517773
Of course it is. Was jsut saying that it was founded as a saxon company in saxony. They relocated to bavaria because soviets.
>Everyone hating on Rhineland-Palatine
What did we ever do to you
>>52516742
>Polish occupiers
implying you can occupy your own land
>>52515923
underrated post
>>52518011
>his own land helped partition his country
>>52516349
> when his state flag is just the federal flag plus ensign
>>52518011
You only came in 700ad.
We were first.
>>52517970
Don't see anyone hating on you
One of the best Bundesländer for sure, just not for a young person.
>>52517836
Yeah, my village of 3500 is also 1500 years old, but it'd still look like shit, had it exploded to (half) a million only in the last 150 years
>>52518090
There was no settlement in eastern Germany before Slavs. We build your entire capital.
Also, the richest parts of Prussia were in fact Polish lands.
>>52518062
>getting Bundescucked
>>52517148
>Frankfurt is not a good tourist city.
Correct me if I'm wrong but its pretty much like your version of Manhattan.
>>52517968
And guess who has invested in Saxony since the merge? BMW. Audi is traitorous.
>>52517965
Baltic Prussian language has been extinct for a few centuries though.
Still, Prussian Germans apparently mostly just changed their names instead of mixing a lot, as they're still around 22% N1c1 from what I've read somewhere
>>52518055
Don't speak about things you have no idea about, muh heritage idiot.
I bet you can't even say anything in german at all.
>>52517408
>Well there are castles all over the place. Every 5th village has one.
I wouldn't go that far I have muh OstFriesland Heritage and I don't think there are any there.
>>52518150
Isn't Manhatten full of bars and theaters and stuff like that? Because Frankfurt isn't. But tt is indeed our finacial capital.
>>52518150
It is pretty ugly. It is a poor man's Manhattan with some German characteristics. You have Apfelwein, the ECB, and a sketchy street next to the train station where crackheads smoke pipes.
t. was there for the Ironman
>>52517970
Wut? Rheinhessen here, no one did so far. It's just we're pretty much artifical as a state without long history under one rulership, because the whole area was always extremely clusterfucked even by HRE standards, so we're kinda lacking a state identity unlike Bavaria, Hessen,...
>>52518150
Its the financial center of germany and the only city with a real skyline. Its on the river Main.
Because of this its jokingly called Mainhattan.
Its also called largest village in germany because the skyscrapers make it look much bigger than it actually is.
>>52518150
The only similarities are the skyscrapers.
You can do a lot in Manhattan, you can't do shit in Frankfurt.
>>52518116
It wouldn't look as bad if it weren't bombed as much in WW2. 90% of Essen's old town was destroyed in WW2, same in other cities.
>>52518247
manhatttan is undoubtedly an artistic and cultural capital in north america
>>52518193
who said I was muh heritage?
Prussia, along with Russia and Austria, partitioned Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. It's basic history. pretty sad you're own invention killed your country
>>52517818
If my German text book wasn't full of shit, Swabia.
>>52518247
>they demolished the historical house to build those skyscrapers
fucking traitors
>>52518162
>And guess who has invested in Saxony since the merge? BMW.
1 BMW plant
1 Porsche plant
3 VW plants
Its really a shame that audi dint made a new plant in its original location.
But VW made 2 there so its understandable.
>>52518327
They were already destroyed before they builded those skyscrapers. They are also reconstructing parts of the old town at the moment.
>>52518327
whole city was destroyed
>>52518173
Pretty much what I heard to. They are the ones who'd have to ask for the lands back which since Russia crapped them up they would never want the land back.
>>52518468
That reconstruction is going to look really nice from what I saw. Better than Dresden's """reconstructed old city""" with empty buildings to look aesthetically pleasing.
>>52518247
Yes it is but I was more thinking the architecture and financial center aspect.
>>52518093
T-thanks
>>52518272
>mfw i read Northrhine-Westphalia as Rhineland-Palatinate
>>52518571
Yeah, of course nowadays they're mixing too (put that wrongly, I meant up to the war they didn't much), 3rd or 4th generations have started families all over the West etc etc, why they'd want to go back there, with people they don't know?
Kinda similar for me, 1 of my grandpas was from Silesia (he's been ded for 20 years now though, got my father late and mine got me relatively late), but I have no intentions whatsoever to move there.
>>52518640
Wtf are you talking.
Those buildings in Dresden are not empty.
>>52518286
>Its also called largest village in germany because the skyscrapers make it look much bigger than it actually is.
Wow it really doesn't look big from that angle.
>>52518555
They reconstructed the city center and the most important buildings such as the Römer with the Kaisersaal.
>>52518786
Its still the 5th largest city but that dosent mean much.
All german cities except Berlin are fairly small compared with other countries.
>>52518640
>Better than Dresden's """reconstructed old city""" with empty buildings to look aesthetically pleasing
What?
What do you mean by empty buildings? I love the reconstructions in Dresden, it's fucking beautiufl and as far as I know, the new buildings are all used. I mean, it's a gigantic area, so I don't know everything about every project, but most are very well done.
>>52518774
Kind of sad desu.
Where the antifa is found, they must be killed.
Most of those posting under the German flag here are antifa.
>>52518853
>the city center
Not really.
Just a tiny little area.
>>52518873
Compared to other european countrys our cities are pretty big though.
>>52518873
>>52518977
It always amused me howbEuropeans when they move here all want to see NYC. A lot of them end up disliking it and prefer our smaller cities like Boston.
>>52518897
>>52518781
The reconstructed buildings in the Neumarkt are mostly empty. They are literally and simply facades.
>>52518897
>as far as I know, the new buildings are all used.
They have to be used. Its all done by private investors. Not by the city or state.
The reconstruction is going on since 10 years and if it would all be emoty they would have stopped a long time ago.
>>52515813
Bavaria :^)
>>52518977
As I said earlier, just more decentralised.
Paris is several times larger than Berlin, but our #2 (Hamburg) is twice the size of theirs (Marseille)
>>52519050
>Boston
Isn't Boston a very european city in general?
Also, I can imagine many europeans are just used to a lot of smaller cities and don't know why you would need just one very big one.
>>52519058
>The reconstructed buildings in the Neumarkt are mostly empty. They are literally and simply facades.
The inside is obvously not the same as 300 years ago. Its all modern. Its true that it is a facade.
But its not empty. All those quarters are full of shops, restaurants, hotels, offices and appartments.
Why are you saying its empty?
Hessen ohne Frankfurt ugezs
>>52519276
Have you been beyond the first couple of floors in those buildings? It is all fake.
>>52519092
The Frauenkirche in your picture was built with major support from the state and even foreign countries such as the UK.
>>52519395
>The Frauenkirche in your picture
It isn't in the picture.
1.) Baden-Würtemberg
2.) Rheinland-Pfalz
3.) Bayern
4.) Hamburg
5.) Hesssn
6.) Schleswig-Holstein
7.) Niedersachsen
8.) Sachsen
9.) Sachsen-Anhalt
10.) Thüringen
11.) Brandenburg
12.) Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
13.) Bremen
14.) Saarland
15.) Nordrreihn-Westpfalen
16.) Berlin
>>52519358
Why would it be fake? What would they gain from it? And why would you know that?
>>52519470
>Hesssn
Wenn man Orte wie Offenbach oder Frankfurt mag, ja
Bavaria, simple as that lads.
>>52519474
It is cheaper to create a facade than to construct a multistory building. A guy from Leipzig told me this once.
>>52519358
What are you trying to tell me?
Of course its "fake".
They havent reconstructed the insides as they were 300 years ago because we have different needs today.
They have used different, modern, building materials for obvious reasons.
But the outside and the size of the buildings is the same.
I dont get your point.
>>52519395
The Frauenkirche is not in the picture (its the Hofkirche)
But yes it was rebuild with international aid (shitloads of donations)
It was the thing that sparked the whole neumarkt area reconstruction.
>>52519459
The Hofkirche isn't a part of the Neumarkt and I know for a fact that it, the Zwinger, and the Oper were reconstructed by the state.
>>52519470
Berlin is much better than Hamburg and Bremen
>>52519684
> Berlin is much better than Hamburg
>>52519684
If you are an asi.
>>52519684
Top kek
>>52519630
I posted this:>>52519092
The picture is the castle square with castle and Hofkirche.
The pricture is just a random dresden picture not connected with teh text i wrote.
I was talking about private investors. That was about the neumarkt reconstruction. Not the stuff that happend before.
>>52519684
>berlin
>>52519358
>Have you been beyond the first couple of floors in those buildings?
I hope you know that in the upper floors are appartments and people life there. There is no public space.
>>52519800
you can't make this shit up
i like bavarian bread, so them t b h
>>52519395
>>52519459
>>52519630
>The Frauenkirche in your picture
>This isn't the Frauenkirche
>I know for a fact
>Let me tell you about your country
m8 are you even trying
>>52519554
That's what reconstruction generally is, there's no need to rebuild the interior according to past needs. Especially not if most of the reconstruction of "normal" wall to wall houses will be used as residences.
>>52518286
kinda looks like LA tbhfam
>>52519470
Does Berlin even count as a state?
>>52521646
Berlin, Hamburg and Bremen are own federal states.
>>52521768
Bremen is a meme state.
Same as Saarland.
Franconia, clearly.
It's a part of bavaria but it's like a individual state.
Franconia is the birthplace of, and has the biggest plants of:
>adidas
>puma
>schaefler, which is the global leading manufacturer of bearings
>playmobil
>simba dickie group
The famous city of Nuremberg, wich was the centre of medieval germany, is in franconia
The biggest site of Siemens, the biggest engineering manufacturer in europe, is in Franconia as well
>>52522246
>the birthplace of #1 bydlo shoes
horosho tovarisch , keep slaving the slav fight )))))
:^)
>>52517370
This
>>52523029
>Bavaria
>>52523029
>be bavarian
>get shot
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article150180012/Drei-Tote-nach-Schuessen-in-Bayreuth-entdeckt.html
>>52515813
Berlin.
>>52522218
Only because your grill can't spin around
>>52523200
>>52523497
LMAOing @ Bavaricucks
>>52523497
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>52515813
>tfw family came from Rhineland-Palatinate in 1709
Can some kind Rhinelander help me reconnect with muh heritage?
>>52524967
Here.
You know from which part/City they were from.
>>52525556
Around Zweibrücken I think
>>52525757
So somewhere between Palatine Forest and Hunsrück. Not from there (about 90km to the North-North-East but same state), what made them emigrate to Ireland of all places?
Our village had a lot of emigrants to 'Murrica (mostly PA) and Huezil in 18th and 19th century because of lack of war(!) resulting in overpopulation and therefore famine, with the many volcanic winters around that time giving an extra boost
>>52525556
Woher kommst'n du? Hab in/an Birkenfeld studiert
>>52525757
Kek born and raised in that area. They were probably piss poor peasants.Shittiest part of Palatinate.
>>52521646
They wanted to merge with Brandenburg, but we rejected it in a popular poll, because kebab and debt$. Also berliners = big mouthed people. Brandenburg allwege !
>>52526270
Kaff 30 Minuten weg von Kaiserslautern, leb aber jetzt seid 3 Jahren in Österreich. Bin gerade nur zu Weihnachten zuhause.
>>52526676
In der Pfalz war ich leider nie, aber der Hunsrück war auch ganz schön
>>52526893
Um die Weinstraße ist ziemlich nett, ansonsten hält Bauern Gebiet, gibts nicht viel zu sehen/machen. Vermiss es nicht.
>>52515813
So do Germans have any strong identity towards their regions or are they like Americans with their states?
>>52526209
>>52526473
>some guy writes "the golden book" saying that the US (specifically Carolina) is heaven on earth
>publishes it in Germany cos he wants more whites in Carolina
>Germans read the book and believe all the bullshit in it
>refugees from the War of the Spanish Succession go to England
>the Golden Book said the queen would give them land in America
>thousands of German peasants descend on London
>Brits don't want them
>can't send them all to America
>send some to Ireland and give them land cos they're protestant
My family's story ends here, they came to Rathkeale in Limerick in 1709 and stayed there for ~200 years before moving to Dublin.
My grandfather changed his surname from a German one to an Irish one.
However the story continues:
>a lot of the Germans didn't like Ireland
>those who could afford to go back to England or Germany did
>some managed to get passage to New York with the Royal Navy
>there they had to work as indentured servants making pitch (tar) for the navy
>after their servitude was over many prospered
>the descendants of these people are often called the "Pennsylvania Dutch"
>Elvis Presley was descended from them
Irish Palatines are known for Anglicised versions of German surnames, for example Switzer (owners of one of Dublin's biggest dept. stores until recently), Presley (Elvis obviously) and Bovenizer (my family name).
>>52527275
Only pesants do.
>>52527275
We usually have strong identities towards our states, that's why many people have their state flags in front of their houses instead of the federal flag. A special case is Franconia, a region in Bavaria that wants to be seperate.
>>52527438
t.
Pesant
>>52527645
t. progressive world citizen who discarded the idea of nations
go to Sweden
>>52527702
>I speak funny and have my federal Staates flag in my garden er so different
Just fuck off idiot
>>52527813
Most states are older than the country though.
>>52516152
>posting old shit
HESSEN STARK
>>52515813
1. Schleswig
2. Holstein
>>52527861
> Kiel is worse than the neighboring counties
wtf
Posting map of Germany.
>>52527892
Holstein > Schleswig uezs
>>52527986
Ich komme aus dem Kreis Steinburg, lebe aber derzeit weiter nördlich.
Solange es die Westküste ist, ist dieses Land wunderschön.
Und auch die Ostküste hat seine Vorzüge.
Schleswig-Holstein, deutscher Sitte hohe Wacht, wanke nicht mein Vaterland.
>>52527945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmi0XqTlEY8
>>52527861
>Mainz-Bingen still going strong
Phew
>>52528050
Hab von der Westküste nicht so viel Ahnung. Bin Kieler, wohnte 'ne Zeit lang in Kappeln, jetzt in Ahrensburg.
>>52517148
name 1 thing about hamburg that berlin or munich don't do better
>>52515813
Pomerania
>>52528711
Trade by sea.
>>52528912
im sure tourists are very interested in trade volume charts
>>52529173
Well the port is a historical attraction.
Ever been to the "Speicherstadt"?
>>52529173
>this post
>from a durch
Really?
>>52529206
yeah it's literally a shit version of every house in Amsterdam
