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I've heard Finland was rated among one of the best countries in the world.
In the "wallet drop" test 11 out of 12 wallets have been handed back.
But it can't be THAT good, I mean, their biggest city has like 600k inhabitants and it's cold as fuck.
Convince me not to go and live there.
>>52359096
It will be among the best countries in the world as long as hairy southern people don't inhabit it.
And also, are you implying low population density is somehow a bad thing?
>>52359096
We're the best country in the world, as long as there are under 10 million inhabitants here
Then it will go to shit
>>52359242
>And also, are you implying low population density is somehow a bad thing?
yes.
I love big cities, I'm not one of those faggots who are too stressed and want to leave in a small peaceful village.
>>52359294
there must be a reason it has only around 5M inhabitants, it must be borderline uninhabitable
>>52359426
*live
fuck
>>52359096
>Convince me not to go and live there.
Don't come here.
How's that?
It's a beta country. Only betas return wallets.
It doesn't mean it's a nice place to live.
>>52359426
>I love big cities, I'm not one of those faggots who are too stressed and want to leave in a small peaceful village
> it must be borderline uninhabitable
Yeah, you wont like living more northern than France and we won't like you living northern than France, stay there
The only reason it is as good as it is because there are only finns here.
Outsiders ruin everything.
>>52359426
>Norway might give away a mountain to Finland
We might be friendly, but the landscapes are boring. (Norway and Sweden not included)
>>52359528
>look at me I'm a masculine Norgayan, I act like an asshole to compensate my lack of manliness
>>52359426
We don't love big cities, we love silence and peace
>>52359497
>full
>5M inhabitants
seriously
>>52359539
>>52359562
give reasons instead of playing the role of the little edgy racist faggot
Since when foreigners from first world countries cause trouble?
>inb4 "Italy it's not a first world country"
>>52359096
Most people would rather risk starvation and beheading rather than live in Finland. Guys are violent, girls are fat, everyone drinks too much. The "food" would only be fed to dogs and women by Arabs. You can go months without seeing the Sun. There is no culture, only modernity, no society, only the state.
>>52359698
Well, 98% of the migrants are not the people you're talking about. They're here for the benefits.
and 12 out of 12 picked up the soap
>>52359698
Their economy is doing pretty poorly right now, and since they depend on Russia economically, it might not recover for a while
>>52359698
They don't appreciate silence and personal space.
>>52359698
It's cultural difference, mediterraenian people are largely considered loud, disorganized and chauvinistic, which is true according to my experiences
>>52359784
>they depend on Russia economically
Uhh.. OK.
>>52359784
>american poster
Every time.
>>52359659
what are you, hobbits?
>>52359659
>We don't love big cities, we love silence and peace
You do love them, or you're simply alone?
Did you ever try to live in a city with more than 1M inhabitants? It's fucking amazing, there's EVERYTHING you could ever ask for, and no, I'm not referring to basic stuff like food and clothes stores, I know you have them too.
Just to make you an example: I live in milan and I love videogames, I could go, by foot, to at least 6 different videogames stores in a single afternoon.
>>52359698
There was a Finnish-Italian meeting here in Myllypuro last weekend and holy hell the noise and trash
literally arab-tier
>I've heard Finland was rated among one of the best countries in the world.
keyword: was
>>52359828
We have a couple videogame stores, and everyone is reliable
We prefer controlled quality over market freedom
>>52359907
Still is, we're just doing bad right now because we joined Euro. I mean by all other meters but economical.
>>52359729
girls are fat? I thought northern European girls were beautiful.
And what about alchool? is it true that they're always drunk?
About modernity, I like that.
And violent guys, never heard before.
So far my "Change your mind and never go to Finland" list features:
-cold
-long winters
-shit food
>>52359729
It's of course not my case
>>52359794
it's the opposite of what >>52359659 said
>>52359798
well, you didn't met people from the north of Italy.
>>52359903
yes, most of South-Italians are like that. And they're the most likely to go live abroad for benefits.
People from the North of Italy isn't like that at all.
>>52359828
You can do pretty much anything like that in Helsinki as well, it's big enough. 700 000 population if you just count the "city proper", but the region has some 1.2 to 1.3 million inhabitants.
>>52360029
>it's the opposite of what >>52359659 said
No, it's exactly the same, you just misread. And that's the vibe I'm getting from this thread, you probably wouldn't enjoy it here. If a weekend in the woods by a lake on your own isn't your ideal holiday (pic related), this country is probably not for you.
if your reasons for moving are some readers digest wallet test and random rankings i suggest you stay with your mother a bit longer
>>52359985
hmm Euro is not really the core of our problem. Though by printing shit loads of money we could have increased our competitiveness, with cost of foreign goods being expensive.
>>52360072
Here's a couple things about finnish people around Finland
People in South-Finland are basically swedes, people in West-Finland get drunk and kill their families with axes, people in East-Finland talk russian and burn their saunas while drunk and people in North-Finland do drugs in darkness and kill themselves slowly
Everyone drowns themselves while drunk on midsummer
>>52360253
>People in South-Finland are basically swedes
Fuck you too.
>>52360215
Well, most of the pros (even outboard) says so, so I'll take that.
The floating Finnish Markka would be best for us just because we're such a small economy.
But like always, there are different explanations, but I've never heard or understood a better one. How come we're so suddenly in the shitter, if not for the Euro then?
>>52360135
you healthcare kid probably can't imagine how's living in a country in which getting out of your house past 9 PM in some areas of the city means getting robbed/stabbed/raped with a 99.99% possibility rate.
in Italy you consider yourself "lucky" if the robber who took the wallet from your pockets (since dropping it means 100% rate to lose it forever) throws it in a post box after taking all the money, so that you have a little possibility of the mailman bringing you back your documents.
You really can't appreciate how lucky you are and how appealing that looks to honest people living around the world
>>52360253
so even if the country is so great, even the few people living it don't appreciate it?
I've heard cold countries have higher suicide rates compared to the rest of the world.
>>52360329
He was trying to be sarcastic...
>>52360215
We could print to get full employment without too much effect on the exchange rate. We'd have more total production, so higher living standards and full employment provides a lot of security. Also then we could remove welfare, because fuck those that are unwilling to contribute.
>>52359826
Elves m8, there even was a subrace of Finns called Forest Finns.
>>52360466
But the rest of the post was entirely accurate.
>>52360460
Don't believe everything you read online man...
>>52360500
Oh... First day in Finland? What a bunch of shit.
>>52360506
so it's not true?
Everyone's happy? Nobody is always sick for the cold weather or depressed for the long winters?
>>52360460
It's the people that made the country great
It's the nordic mentality that danish writes Sandemose made into the Jante Law, which is kind of unspoken rules that everyone just abides
You're not to think you are anything special.
You're not to think you are as good as we are.
You're not to think you are smarter than we are.
You're not to convince yourself that you are better than we are.
You're not to think you know more than we do.
You're not to think you are more important than we are.
You're not to think you are good at anything.
You're not to laugh at us.
You're not to think anyone cares about you.
You're not to think you can teach us anything.
It can often be depressive, but it works
>>52360565
Everyone's happy from june to august
Rest of the year is just tolerating your existence
Living in North Italy is much better than living in Finland.
The weather is much nicer, the cities are 100 times more beautiful and filled with history, and I believe the standard of living is higher as well.
Also in the winter it doesn't get dark at 2 pm and the people aren't cold and autistic.
>>52359096
>tfw living in a city
>tfw used to live in a village of 150 people
I want to go back, nothing is better than a small community.
>>52360565
> Nobody is always sick for the cold weather or depressed for the long winters?
Suicides actually skyrocket during summer so the light and warmth are the bad thing for Finns.
>>52360329
Kyllä minä mieleni pahoitin...
Every stereotypes begins with a hint of truth, even though I exaggerated them in the post
I live in Helsinki so it wasn't meant to offend
>>52360605
Jante's law is not a thing here we are not scandicucks
>>52360565
It's not like everyone is either happy or sad all the time. Most people seem to be pretty satisfied and comfortable compared to most other countries. Of course the weather affects people, when you don't see the sun for months your mental state changes, but if you're used to it it's totally fine. And in summer we have endless sun.
>>52359096
>Convince me not to go and live there.
Finns are very rude to outsiders. You will absolutely never be part of the gang regardless of what you do. You think Japan is bad to dirty foreigners?
You will be treated nice enough, but there will always be this tense atmosphere.
Also finsnare ugly as sin.
Don't go there.
finland is kill. bureaucracy killed this land.
>>52360653
Tell that to yourself and stop talking about others.
>>52360730
>Romanian talking shit about finland
:DDDDDDD
>>52360384
still the ability to go out at night is hardly a reason to move across europe
>>52360730
>You think Japan is bad to dirty foreigners?
I thought Japanese were open and friendly people when I visited there...
>>52360460
i want basic income
t. neet
>>52360605
who's "we"? the collective society?
>>52360677
Anglos get it
move to Finland, people are leaving the countryside so there are many deserting communities that need to be repopulated, but no immigrants want to go there
>>52360691
http://yle.fi/uutiset/finland_still_the_best_country_in_the_world_for_mothers/7223091
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Fragile_States_Index
>...
>>52360809
they were nice to you because they knew (or assumed rather) you would get the fuck out of there soon
>>52360841
Yes, that is defunct now. Finland a shit.
>Fragile States Index
LMAO, that shit is only useful for countries in Africa and the Middle-East.
>>52360838
I would but the Finnish language baffles me and I don't want to be an immigrant who cannot speak the language. Since I cannot speak the language I would also not find work.
>>52360833
Yes, the community or in larger scale, the state or country
It was originally made to reflect the danish village atmosphere, but it pretty much applies to all nordics (and i think baltics too)
western culture calls it evil and I've heard it's similar to "tall poppy syndrome"
>>52360921
>Since I cannot speak the language I would also not find work.
That's probably true, it's almost impossible to find a proper job even if you were a native Finn.
>>52360890
Why so mad? Because we don't paper niggers like you do?
http://mvlehti.net/2015/11/23/video-nain-jihadistia-noyryytetaan-saarijarvella/
>>52360778
In no discernible way is Finland better than Romania (or any other country), except for maybe the wallet return thingy, which is as relevant as a fishes ability to climb a tree in the grand scheme of things.
In fact, from my limited experience with the nordic countries, I would pick Norway any day.
>>52360963
oh, i thought it meant danes for a second
>>52360921
That's very true, hope it gets better for you
>>52361005
>I would pick Norway any day
Thank god, we have too much gypsies already
>>52361005
U Sirius?
>>52359096
>In the "wallet drop" test 11 out of 12 wallets have been handed back.
We have still a relatively low rate of Middle Eastern & African immigrants, that's the reason.
>>52361005
>>52360679
>Suicides actually skyrocket during summer
what the fuck
>>52360657
>The weather is much nicer
Indeed. I consider it being freezing cold right now and we're around 3-4° C. Some years we see snow, but not every year.
>Also in the winter it doesn't get dark at 2 pm
true, I consider it a bit depressing that in winter it gets dark at 6-7pm
>and the people aren't cold and autistic.
Dunno about Finnish people, but yes here in Italy they're not "autistic", but there are a lot of retards
> I believe the standard of living is higher as well
I'm not really sure about this, the company I'd be interested in working for even offers dental healthcare, which in Italy isn't included and costs a shitton. I only make around 1400 euros per month and I have a great job for a guy my age (24)
>>52360989
>mvlehti
Venäjä propaganda
Russia propaganda
Rossija propaganda
Krievija propaganda
Errussia propaganda
Räsäy propaganda
Venema propaganda
Rosya propaganda
Ruska propaganda
>>52361092
There's a lot of Finns who make ~1500€ a month, but the prices here are a lot of higher than in Italy.
>>52361148
Nope.
>>52361005
Hoi Raineri älä kärtsää hihojas, tääl on viel vietävää ja saat kelarahoil uusi Mora, hoiii
>>52361205
What's this?
>>52360331
Our golden years happened during Euro (early 2000). The reason why we are in the shitter is because our economy was highly based on exporting shit to other countries, when the global markets fell so did our exports. A lot of our exports were b2b, now combine this with raw materials and overall demand for machinery/forest industry still being low, we just cannot compete with chinese and other low cost countries. Without euro we could have pumped shit loads of money, inflating our currency to the skies, but on the other hand your precious computers and imports would cost a lot more. It's a world of choices.
>>52360477
That's very keynesian way to think of it, but our problem is global demand, not internal demand, where printing money does wonders.
While having our own currency could allow us to print more money (and hopefully fix our competitiveness) it would also come at a cost.
>>52361005
No offense, but Romanians in our country are like a plague. I've yet to meet ONE that wouldn't stab you, steal your money and laugh at you. It's not really comparable to how we imagine Finnish people.
>>52361319
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mvlehti.net
>>52359096
>Finland was rated among one of the best countries in the world.
lol k
>>52361464
Well yeah, it's popular in finland because it's in finnish, but Ilja Janitskin, who created and owns the magazine is as finnish as somali people born in Finland are.
He writes about such hot topics as evil western culture, evil liberals, evil finnish people, evil immigrants
But Russia is always the good guy
>>52359096
>Convince me not to go and live there.
Our biggest city has like 600k inhabitants and it's cold as fuck.
>>52361662
Go suck a stick.
>>52361794
>Hommahopo defence
nice
>>52361794
>ryssän defenssimekanismit
mee nyt jo vittuun. t. eri
>>52361439
99.9% of those are gypsies which only happen to come from Romania. True romanians have no reason to move to other countries as we live perfectly fine here. Foreigners (gypsies and hungarian included) always fuck up everything and immigrate because in romania no one tolerates their annoying begging... That's not to say bucharest is considered a romanian city lol.
Anyway I'll e happy if you came here for a week, I'll take you all around and see if you still hold the same opinion about romanians.
Now, if I were to be a bitch, I would say that germans are a very shitty race because so many of them are brown and hairy and speak turkish, but we know they are not really germans, just sandniggers who happen to live in germany.
saunalahti is miserable. took me 2 minutes to post this
We are turning Sweden 2.0. Too many mudslimes, somalis etc and our cúck politicians wants more.
>>52361148
MV-Lehti is the truth. YLE/MTV/iltapaskat are propaganda.
>>52359096
fuck off we're full
What's something cool I can do in Helsinki in a day?
>>52359729
Sounds like I'm living in finland already
>>52362490
Rossiya – svyashchennaya nasha derzhava,
Rossiya – lyubimaya nasha strana.
Moguchaya volya, velikaya slava –
Tvoyo dostoyanye na vse vremena!
Pripev:
Slav'sya, Otechestvo nashe svobodnoye,
Bratskih narodov soyuz vekovoy,
Predkami dannaya mudrost' narodnaya!
Slav'sya, strana! My gordimsya toboy!
Ot yuzhnyh morey do polyarnogo kraya
Raskinulis' nashi lesa i polya.
Odna ty na svete! Odna ty takaya –
Khranimaya Bogom rodnaya zemlya!
Pripev
Shiroky prostor dlya mechty i dlya zhizni.
Gryadushchiye nam otkryvayut goda.
Nam silu dayot nasha vernost' Otchizne.
Tak bylo, tak yest' i tak budet vsegda!
Pripev
>>52362979
Just without any socialist benefits
Ok thank you guys I think you convinced me. My "don't go to Finland list" now features:
-They're racist and they'll never accept you. Worse than the Japanese.
-Cities tend to be small
-Population of only 5 M people
-Economy isn't anymore as good as it used to be
-They have higher income but not so high compared to the cost of life
-It's cold as fuck
-Food sucks
-Winters are incredibly long and in those months the sun sets at 2pm
-Men drink a lot and can be aggressive
-The population tends to love silence and nature (and I'm not into nature and forests)
Anything else to add?
>>52363894
add a bullet in your brain and everyone will be happy
>>52363894
that sounds reasonable, i'm glad you came to your senses
>>52363894
People don't talk to strangers so your chance of making friends if you don't already have some is pretty low.
>>52363894
It's full of Finns
>>52362490
MVlehti is a Russian datamining scam 2bh perhe
I heard there are lots of mosquitoes there.
Not to mention - not to be mean - that Finns are pretty fucking ugly.
They look tardy-like, it's kind of unsettling.
http://www.hel-looks.com/
Reported all Finns for racism and discrimination.
I made my Erasmus in Helsinki.
I'd rather live in Italy desu
>>52364785
Listen to this man.
We are full so please fuck off.
>>52364541
>hel-looks
Oh yes, a totally accurate representation of what a normal person looks like.
>>52364924
Sorry I'm coming with my big brown cock.
>>52360135
>underrated post
I've lived in a couple of countries and Finland is still my favorite country to live in. Safe, clean, great infrastructure, nice people, shitload of things to do and see in Helsinki.
>>52365144
t. Aalbeerti Barbosii
Because Finland is based. One finn is worth of 5,7 Russians :DD
>>52359096
>"wallet drop" test
India should be rated the best then
>>52361845
>>52361886
>ainoa nettijulkaisu joka puolustaa suomalaisia
>RYSSÄRYSSÄRYSSÄ
Miten vitun tyhmiä te olette? Siis ihan oikeasti. Ärsyttävää.
>>52366400
*ai niin onhan toki myös magneettimedia
Mutta kun teille on kerrottu, että ne on pahasta...
>>52366400
Kuinka vitun tyhmä pitää olla, että kuvittelee venäläisen päätoimittajan puolustavan suomalaisia pyyteettömästi?
>>52367296
>pyyteettömästi
eiköhän jokaiselle toimittajalle makseta
I want to get the fuck out from Finland, but every other country is shit too.
>>52367296
En jaksa ymmärtää miten teidän kaltaisia idiootteja voi olla olemassa... Postaas nyt sitä ryssäpaskaa sieltä sitten, tai lue sitä ja totea itse.
>>52367662
Brotip: The countries aren't shit, it's your life that is.
>>52367802
>>52367355
Ei. Katsos on olemassa ihmisiä, jotka tekevät asioita ihan pyyteettömästi. Toisen raiskaajia hyysää ja kutoo sukkia, toiset espanjasta päivitävät saittia, jossa kerrotaan näistä raiskaajista ja sukkienkutojista.
>>52359096
>Least honest
>Portugal
>>52359784
Every time
>>52359784
American "understanding" of international affairs strikes again.
>>52360721
>Jante's law is not a thing here
Even though it applies very well to Finns?
>>52368527
Ignore that poster. In general, we have very retarded posters here on /int/
>>52359096
It is all lies this is true face of Finland tbhfäm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejgd1dEdAuY
>>52363894
>-They're racist and they'll never accept you. Worse than the Japanese.
Yep. That's a good thing.
>-Cities tend to be small
Yep.
>-Population of only 5 M people
Yep.
>-Economy isn't anymore as good as it used to be
There is going to be growth in next years according to some sources.
>-They have higher income but not so high compared to the cost of life
Still million times better than Italy.
>-It's cold as fuck
It's hot as fuck during the summer.
>-Food sucks
You know you are not only limited to Finnish cuisine here, you can get anything you want to eat.
>-Winters are incredibly long and in those months the sun sets at 2pm
Yep.
>-Men drink a lot and can be aggressive
Not really.
>-The population tends to love silence and nature (and I'm not into nature and forests)
1,4 million people live in the metropolitan area, in which half in Helsinki, how do you do that here?
An italian could never be happy in Finland, culture shock is too big.
>>52369253
Finland's 2014 GDP(PPP): 40,661€
Italy's 2014 GDP(PPP): 35,131€
Wow it's nothing.
>>52359096
>Convince me not to go and live there.
Diluting Finland with foreign cultures and people will make Finland less Finnish, so all the good traits will vanish. On the economic side, we have massive unemployment, so in the best case you'd take a job that a Finn could do and in the worst case you'd live on welfare like a leach.
If you want to live in a better country, make your own country better.
>>52359096
>In the "wallet drop" test 11 out of 12 wallets have been handed back.
If you're depressed and planning for sudoku, you won't do anything with money.
>>52369298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s47LaLDspHs
This guy made it.
