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>/int/ opposes hijabs but not nun habits
Explain this.
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>>52326017
nobody forces women to wear nun habits
besides nuns I guess, but that's like their work uniform
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No real reason, I just strongly dislike muslims.
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I just hate muslims
is that really so bad?
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>>52326017
Being a nun is a choice, being a woman isn't. Except for trans.
So, I guess hijabs are ok for m2f trans.
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Why do they wear these anyway? What benefit do they get from it?
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>>52326017
oh look it's this thread again
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>>52330351
They can hide their ugliness better.
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>>52327063
There's no such thing as changing your gender
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>>52330351
Muslims care about the environment you see
that's why they put the trash in black bags
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nun is bride of jesus
mehmedina is not bride of allah
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It really pains me that I can go outside and see women wearing these where I live. There's a huge population of them down the street from me in fact. I'm in Oregon btw.
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>>52330441
Are you joking?
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>>52330542
Getting your dick cut off and getting tit implants does not make you a woman, just like getting a tan, wearing a poncho and eating tacos doesn't make you a Mexican.
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>>52330592
Learn the difference between gender and sex
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>>52330389
/thread.

What now, muslim defense force?

>>52330472
Hey, could you ask Bibi to ask for annexation of germany by Israel due to the Shoah or something?

I believe you would take better care of our country then our current politician-caste.
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>>52330619
Fuck off Tumblr
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>>52330619
Biologically there is no difference. You're X/X or X/Y. Whatever mind games you play with yourself to rationalize wanting to be a little girl will not change reality.
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>>52326017
Any question?
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>>52330389
>>52330684
Achmed damage control
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>>52330671
>Learn the difference between gender and sex
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>>52330706
read the text, it's not pro hijab
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>>52330706
Did you fucking read what was posted. If anything its anti achmed you nonce
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>>52330671
Did you know that not even 100 years ago, Aboriginal Australians legally weren't considered human beings?
They were not protected under human rights and and were literally treated like animals.
I think you can see where I'm going
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>>52330745
Well sex and gender are in more then 90% of cases linked together.
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>>52330671
This.

You may plus yourself fake tits and cut your dick and get a vagina plugged on you, your body is still the one of a man with fake tits, mutilated dick and plugged vagina.

>Mhu soul is...
Fuck you, souls have no gender/sex/whatever and I can argue it doesn't even exist.
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>>52330808
But they aren't human beings.
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>>52330808
Is this bait holy shit please stop
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>>52330706
Take time to read who you quote, it will make you less likely to be spot.
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>>52326017
>Nun: Choice
>Hijab: Forced Meme
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>>52330684
>historically, nuns are not know for hiding weapons under their habit
I remember reading about some historical case where someone was assassinated by nun hiding a dagger
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>>52326017
What's the difference between a burqa and a hijab?
I though burqas were what they were forced to wear.
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>>52330706
THE ILLITERATE JEW
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>>52331078
LETS MAKE FUN OF IT!
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>>52330947
>muslims aren't anti-american
Do you even real life?
Sometimes Arabs hate the USA even more than they hate Israel.
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>>52331000
Even if you got a trip, I need a source.

Assassins nuns are a thing only in hitman.
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>>52330706
>Israeli "Education"
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>>52326017
Nuns don't get pregnant and shit terrorists on our soil
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>>52331133
I wish Hitler had finished what he started, Schlomo, I really do.
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>>52331207
Edgy.
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>>52331045
Did some looking around and I found this. Still confused though, it seems Muslim women make the choice to wear a hijab. The burqa seems to be what they're forced to wear. Is this the case?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab#Dress_code_required_by_hijab
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>>52331133
Damn, you really need to work on your reading skills.

It was just a psyop of the JIDF to make Muslims look even more violent than they are.
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>>52331603
"Choice" is relative. When your entire family and 90% of your friends expect that you wear it, and educate you to do so, you have little room for freedom.
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>>52331603

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duress
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>>52326017
1) not all nuns wear habits
2) not all habits are the same
3) women aren't groomed to wear nun habits or become nuns from birth
4) the only time you'll see nuns is if you're near a monastery or if they're doing something for charity, as opposed to loud gaggles of hijabis/other species of dementors who always let their annoying bratty kids off the leash and never discipline them like they should
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>>52330745
Ahh, two words with the same meaning until sociologists 20 years ago decided that's not the case and now everyone must follow their interpretations and definitions of words because they're super scientists amirite

Fuck off faggot. Gender is literally synonymous with sex.
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whats up with all these tumblrinas on int lately
i hope its just baiting
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>>52334491
Gender is performative, sex is not
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>>52334965
Shut the fuck up Sven. Gender and sex are both the state of being male of female.
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>>52330706
Well done retard
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>>52335121
>he doesn't know about intersex
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>>52335578
>humans have three legs
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How do I get my gf to wear a headcovering? They turn me on.
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>>52335848
tell her it turns you on
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>>52330671
>You're X/X or X/Y
Or XXY Or XX and were born with a penis
Or XYY

>>52330873
The reason transgender exists is because the nerve cluster where self-identified gender originates from is sexually dimorphic and in a trans-individual it resembles that of the opposite sex. Why is it so hard for you to be a decent human being?

Is this like where we found out those who were so staunchly homophobic were actually closeted gays? Are you anons closeted transexuals?
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>>52335121
Show me any English written birth certificate or government issued ID that uses the word Gender and not Sex
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>>52330389
>hijab is difficult not to wear
its really not as common as you think
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>>52326017
I oppose Islam. There.
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>>52331603
if you're living in a country where Burqa or Niqab is the norm, then you're definitely being forced
hijab is a bit trickier, since its not something thats forced on women, more like they can choose to or not.
Hell, even in Pakistan, the majority of women don't wear hijab.
The enforcement of women to cover is, is more a cultural practice than strictly an islamic one.
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>>52336527
>humans have three legs
Maybe you should stop bringing up literal medical conditions and defects.

>>52337355
What point are you making faggot? Show me a birth certificate that uses the word girl, woman or whatever instead of female.

This isn't reddit
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>>52331603
Yes, burka is usually not a woman's choice.

Not that headcovering is Islamic anyways.

http://muslim-brothah.blogspot.ca/2012/03/hijab-mandatory-or-not.html
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>>52338120
Transgenderism is a medical condition. A part of the brain is took on the wrong shape which results in a self-misindetified gender which results in gender dysphoria, which is a mental illness. The only known treatment is a sex change operation.

Come on slav friend, why is it so hard to be a decent human.
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>>52330389
this thread is now concluded
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>>52338826
>The only known treatment is a sex change operation.
Hahah, just fuck off you idiot. Chopping off your dick is not a sex change operation, you're not changing your sex, you're just chopping of a part of your body and then pretend you are something you're not, but not that alone, you also try and force others to pretend along with you.

Might as well in plant synthetic tails and furry ears in "otherkins" and pretend that's "treatment" too.

>Come on slav friend, why is it so hard to be a decent human.
Fuck off with your appeals to emotion, faggot.

Humans only come in two forms-male and female, anything else is a literal defect, an abnormality. Claiming otherwise is like saying humans have 3 legs or that humans are not sentient because there's people out there born with 3 legs or without much of their brain. Exceptions confirm the rule otherwise it's not an exception.

Now fuck off with your identity politics back to tumblr or reddit or wherever the fuck you came from.
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What's the point of women covering their hair though, are the muslim men all gay?

I mean, if I was in charge of culture women would walk in bikinis everywhere.
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>>52330684
Yah nah
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>>52330745
Gender is just a series of traits that have become associated with a sex.

It's not magical thing that you need surgery to change.
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>>52327063
We can all agree that forcing women to wear them is unforgivable, but many women wear hijabs by choice.

People might think stripping is sexist because it objectifies women, but it's wrong to make it illegal for a woman to strip
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>>52330671
You just defined sex though, anon

If gender was universal, how come many societies (including the pre-modern west) had more than two?
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>>52331706
the same could be said about women who get married, though
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>>52340909
So please do tell me the punishment for not wearing them in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

PLEASE do.
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>>52330706
>>52335367
samefag
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nuns dont blow shit up
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>>52341762
>So please do tell me the punishment for not wearing them in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Irrelevant

Drug laws are also more severe in these countries, what's your point boris milasovic?
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>>52341826
>nuns dont blow shit up

Americans blow shit up, therefor all americans are to be banned
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>>52341845
It is not irrelevant, you are moving the goal posts.

It is OPRESSION if you are forced to do these things even though you denied them before.

Just accept that Islam, even though it might be the light of the world to you (quote end), is mired in the trappings of all organised religions.

Also, please call me Bernd Lauert, if you are looking for a stereotypical name.

And don't have me tsarted on HAdithes.

>t. studied 2 semesters of Arabistic and Islamic Theology.
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>>52326017

>>52326230
This sums it up for me.
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>>52326017
becoming a nun is a choice
nuns won't get stoned/beaten for not wearing them
muslims are shit people for whom the terraforming of Mars should be prioritized by the entire global economy for the sole purpose of eventually sending them all there
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>>52341871
Yea but we have the moral highground, our blowing shit up is justifiable
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>>52341941
>It is not irrelevant, you are moving the goal posts.
>It is OPRESSION if you are forced to do these things even though you denied them before.
>Just accept that Islam, even though it might be the light of the world to you (quote end), is mired in the trappings of all organised religions.
>Also, please call me Bernd Lauert, if you are looking for a stereotypical name.
>And don't have me tsarted on HAdithes.

It's irrelevant in western countries you dumb slav. Move on. Cultural pressure applies to all aspects of lie so that's a non-point.
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>>52342003
>Yea but we have the moral highground, our blowing shit up is justifiable

Moral high ground doesn't mean our own interest you stupid pissant
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>>52341979
Why terraform it? Why Mars?
Just launch them into the sun.
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>>52342003
I'd rather say you do it openly for evil stuff.
Iraq wasn't relaly necessary.

As long as Islam worships god as a god of Obedience they will allways have people use the "God wills it!" argument to tell some impressionable people to die/kill/do other horrible stuff.

We are more "advanced" we just do it for our vices or our nation.

I actually prefer it like that because it doesn't become a religion to kill for god if one of his commandments is to NOT KILL.

It is just shamefull.
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>>52330706
lel
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>>52342041
Not that I'm disagreeing with you but how many of those casualties were from Saddam and Al Qaeda? Over what timespan?

It's useless without a source.
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>>52331603

Burqas are only in Afghanistan. They predate Islam and are an evolution of less-extreme veils from Persia.

The Niqab and Chador are extreme Hijabs that also predate Islam, but are from the Arabian Peninsula rather than Afghanistan.

Many women are forced to wear every one of those four, but many women choose to wear every one of those as well.

Hijab headscarves are actually quite diverse, varying greatly by class and culture. Many are based on pre-Islamic traditions, especially in Afghanistan and India. Others have a strong Western influence.
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>>52342007
It isn't, I should show you Neu-Köln.

Also, why are you so angry?

I might be a bit polish since half of my family was prussian, but what is bad about it?

What is your ethnic make-up?
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>>52342041
This is social darwinism in progress, we are making the world a better place by forcing weaker nations into submission
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>>52341762
Iran and Saudi Arabia also kill people who cheat on their spouses.

It's obviously wrong to force women to wear clothing, but it's also wrong to force them to not
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>>52342105
>Not that I'm disagreeing with you but how many of those casualties were from Saddam and Al Qaeda? Over what timespan?

literally a fraction of the deaths wars cause. You don't appreciate how many civilians actually die in wars because of embedded journalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziZWTXvkIiA
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>>52342174
It is more a thing being against islamification through baby-machines.

I personally think Islam as it is has no real place here. The amount of domestic terrorists is just to high.

We could of ocurse solve it by controlling what is taught harder and force schooling in islamic theology in the language of the nation to make it visible.

We have grown to soft, immigrnats have to adapt not vice versa.
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>>52342171
>This is social darwinism in progress, we are making the world a better place by forcing weaker nations into submission
then stop crying foul, own up to it
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>>52342252
Alright fine, fuck everyone USA #1
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>>52340909
>citation needed
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Punishment+for+women+not+wearing+hijab%2Fburkha
Lazy fuck.
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>>52339245
>Chopping off your dick is not a sex change operation
I mean, the modern age term is "Gender reassignment" so in a way you are right, but not in the way you think.

>Might as well in plant synthetic tails and furry ears in "otherkins" and pretend that's "treatment" too.
The difference is one is a legitimate medical issue and the other is children of rich west coast liberals being dumb teenagers and trying to stand out.

>Fuck off with your appeals to emotion, faggot.
He's right, you are just a shitty human, dude. Nothing to do with an appeal to emotion fallacy.


>Humans only come in two forms-male and female
Exactly. And the abstraction related to self and gender is sexually dimorphic and tangable. You understand what that means, don't you?

>anything else is a literal defect, an abnormality.
He literally pointed out that it's an abnormality in the formation of the brain, he's not arguing against that.

>Claiming otherwise is like saying humans have 3 legs or that humans are not sentient because there's people out there born with 3 legs
You seem really proud of this conclusion, and I'm not sure why. Yeah, those are abnormalities, just like transgenderism. He never said transgenderism isn't an abnormality, he literally called it a medical condition. Your non-sequitur isn't something to be proud of, you can stop posting it any time because it makes you look like a backwoods fool.

>Exceptions confirm the rule otherwise it's not an exception.
Which you follow up with another non-sequitur. Nobody is acting like it's the norm. But of the extremely low margin of people who are transgender, their parent's genes fucked up and a part of their brain is misshapen. You need to understand that and instead of being a brash asshole who comes off as a closeted trans-woman, be a little more compassionate. That's a part of being in society, not being an insufferable asshole.
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>>52342303
irrelevant in western countries
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>>52342062
>Why terraform? Why Mars?
cause they don't know how to do it themselves and will instantly need to be let back into earth when half of them go full Islamic Planet of Mars, Phobos And Deimos (IPMPD) and need asylum

>launch into the sun
the sun is further away than you might think
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>>52342224
PS:

As long as minorities in muslim countries are mistreated I see no problem with forcing stronger Integration.
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>>52342333
>Expecting slavshits to not be raging mongoloids
Most don't even leave their country, do you really expect them to be able to form a decent world view?
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>>52342149 Neu Köln had like 1 in 30 muslim people walking around with a headscarf and most of those were old ladies when I was there.

It is just a social symbol in western countries.
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>>52326017
actually, in many european cultures it is traditional to cover the hair, especially after marriage
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>>52342462
I am talking about the bad parts.

You are right about it being a social symbol and that is why it is important.

It is not a religious law, just a custom.

We are expected to wear hijabs in Saudi Arabia, they should accept not wearing them here.
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>>52342444
>Most don't even leave their country
your world view is even worse I see
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>>52342337
Who said anything about Western countries? Ofc its irrelevant in Western countries.

Its oppressive in the countries where not wearing a fucking rag on your head merits stoning.
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>>52342576
>Its oppressive in the countries where not wearing a fucking rag on your head merits stoning.

Western countries are oppressive
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>>52342333
>The difference is one is a legitimate medical issue and the other is children of rich west coast liberals being dumb teenagers and trying to stand out.
kek I wonder which is which
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>>52342621
How does military presence oppress peoples?

Especially when its requested by the state?
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>>52342717
>How does military presence oppress peoples?

when it kills them
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>>52326017
Both are ugly pieces of some shit black material. Let me show you a really beautiful cover.
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>>52326017

Muslims go to great lenghts to talk about how covering up is for modesty.

Everyone knows its really because most muslim women look like pic related
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>>52342709
donac dumb
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>>52342789
You cannot oppress the dead.
Besides, this is in the countries in which we have made war against.
Civilian casualties are a reality when the enemy hides among them,

>>52342892
8/10, looks like spooky spiderwebs.
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>>52342571
lol dumb europoster
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>>52343013
>You cannot oppress the dead.
their families, monkey
>Besides, this is in the countries in which we have made war against
Exactly, monkey. War for no reason but our interest.
>Civilian casualties are a reality when the enemy hides among them,
No monkey, they're a reality when you're bombing densely populated residential areas willy nilly.

Now go choke on a dick you disgusting warmongering monkeypig.
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there is some difference actually
the nun actually takes off the habit while in society
there is no equality in the comparison, actually
actually
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>>52342789
According to the map we have millitary presence here. Why do all the 3rd worlders want to come to my awesome country and bring their shit religion and culture? If my country was founded on those shit principles then it would be just as shitty as the country they are coming from, but instead we believe in free speech and leaving each other alone, which we can't do anymore because we need to stand up to these shitty ideals they are importing. Fuck off you Muslim scum.
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>>52348480
I'll break you like a twig, kid
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>>52339650
Muslims are beta as fuck and usually live in arranged marriages that their daddies made up for them so they are very insecure and have to violently control women to stop them from cheating on them because they are in involuntary marriages and only motivation not to cheat in that situation is threats.
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>>52348966
>Muslims are beta as fuck and usually live in arranged marriages that their daddies made up for them so they are very insecure and have to violently control women to stop them from cheating on them because they are in involuntary marriages and only motivation not to cheat in that situation is threats.

so was most of the world for most of its history you dumb monkey
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