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>Wake up
>Europe is now this
What do?
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>What do?

Wonder why people keep replying to this shitty threads with inaccurate maps.
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>>52275730
Shitpost as much as i can b4 the T*rks get me
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>>52275730
Go to skiing to ural and still be in my own country.
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>>52275808
i will make you my fuccboi
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TRI MORETA
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>>52275785
Tell me what's so wrong with the map then Mr History Pro
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>>52275785
Pray to Allah*

FTFY
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>>52275871
Pls no
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>>52275785
t. Blanquito Barbosa
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Prepare to get raped by Danes
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>>52275730
I FUCKING GET MY SWORD AND KILL ALL THOSE FILTHY MOORS
PÁTRIA AMADA CARALHO!
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I wish Portugal was still a muslim country, nor even memeing, I think we could be one of the best muslim countries, instead of a below average christian one.
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enjoy sunshine
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>>52276372

You and what army?
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>>52275730

>White Bulgarians
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>>52276567
Well... yours, as always...
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>>52276458
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>>52275894
Northern Portugal wasn't yet liberated from muslims.
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feels weird knowing that we weren't even a country back then
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>>52276811
>feels weird knowing that we weren't even a country back then
We were though.

>inb4 966 meme
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>>52275730
>Moravia was a part of Frankish empire
lol k
10/10 top humor map
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ride finns
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More Balts. Always welcomed, and that Alberto Barbosa in Iberia...
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>>52275730
Prepare for reconquista.
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>>52279288
It was not directly part of the Frankish empire, but vassal state.
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>>52275730
Rejoice, for the Frankish (=French) empire is back.
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rejoice
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>>52276811
>>52277151
The map is inaccurate. The claim that there was such a thing as Pol(an)es prior to the fall of Great Moravia is a historical and archaeological anachronism.
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>>52275730
>Austria
wat
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>Being Byzantine

Feels fucking good t.b.h.
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>>52281948
Austrasia
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>>52276744
all maps seem to say otherwise
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>>52275730
bring christianity to those dirty slavs
deus vult
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It's always new world making these autism europe maps

Why not make autism new world maps
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>>52282090
>be Teuton filth
>forbid preaching in any language but German even in Slavic territories

Why have Germans always been such meanies?
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i'd live with the charizards until the mongols come desu
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>>52282180
we only wanted you to learn a relevant language, to improve your chances of getting a job.
we always wanted only the best for you
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UNITE ENGLAND
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>>52282240
You know, the world has ever been much the same as it is now. Slovenians only survived the Ostsiedlung because our territory belonged to the Patriarch of Friuli, who, as an Italian organization, knew no languages other than their native tongues, so they delegated the holding of church service to local Slavic priests. Meanwhile, Germany just overdubbed all foreign cultural products.
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>>52282430
2bh, i have no idea what happend in slovenia during the early middle ages, anyway, sorry if my ancestors somehow opressed you
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kill england no matter what

everyday is kill england day
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>>52276744
the region yes
it just wasn't called portugal nor portuguese county nor portocalese county nor nothing back then
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>>52275730
>White Bulgarians
What is this implying ;_;
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Find the closest monastery so I can continue NEET life
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remove armenians and slavs
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Tell me more bout bashkirs.
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>>52286360
The Bashkirs (Bashkir: Бaшҡopттap başqorttar; Russian: Бaшкиpы) are a Turkic people indigenous to Bashkortostan, extending on both sides of the Ural Mountains, on the place where Eastern Europe meets North Asia. Groups of Bashkirs also live in the Republic of Tatarstan, Perm Krai, Chelyabinsk, Orenburg, Tyumen, Sverdlovsk, Kurgan, Samara and Saratov Oblasts of Russia, as well as in Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan and other countries.

Most Bashkirs speak the Bashkir language, which belongs to the Kypchak branch of the Turkic languages and share cultural affinities with the broader Turkic peoples. In religion the Bashkirs are mainly Sunni Muslims of the Hanafi madhhab.
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>>52275730
Ostsiedlung
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>>52286360
>>52286969
Early records on the Bashkirs are found in medieval works by Sallam Tardzheman (9th century) and Ibn-Fadlan (10th century). Al-Balkhi (10th century) described Bashkirs as a people divided into two groups, one inhabiting the Southern Urals, the second group living on the Danube plain near the boundaries of Byzantium——therefore – given the geography and date – referring to either Danube Bulgars or Magyars. Ibn Rustah, a contemporary of Al Balkhi, observed that Bashkirs were an independent people occupying territories on both sides of the Ural mountain ridge between Volga, Kama, and Tobol Rivers and upstream of the Yaik river.

Achmed ibn-Fadlan visited Volga Bulgaria as a staff member in the embassy of the Caliph of Baghdad in 922. He described them as a belligerent Turk nation. Ibn-Fadlan described the Bashkirs as nature worshipers, identifying their deities as various forces of nature, birds and animals. He also described the religion of acculturated Bashkirs as a variant of Tengrism, including 12 'gods' and naming Tengri – lord of the endless blue sky.

The first European sources to mention the Bashkirs are the works of Joannes de Plano Carpini and William of Rubruquis in the mid-13th century. These travelers, encountering Bashkir tribes in the upper parts of the Ural River, called them Pascatir or Bastarci, and asserted that they spoke the same language as the Hungarians.

During the 10th century, Islam spread among the Bashkirs. By the 14th century, Islam had become the dominant religious force in Bashkir society.

By 1236, Bashkortostan was incorporated into the empire of Genghis Khan.

During the 13th and 14th centuries, all of Bashkortostan was part of the Golden Horde. The brother of Batu-Khan, Sheibani, received the Bashkir lands to the east of the Ural Mountains – at that time inhabited by the ancestors of contemporary Kurgan Bashkirs.
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>>52286969
Only c*nadian can do this.
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>>52275730
Give 0 fucks
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>>52286360
>>52287070
During the period of Mongolian-Tatar dominion, some of the Bashkirs became subjects of the Kipchaks. Under the Golden Horde, they were subjected to different elements of the Mongols. After the breakup of the Mongol Empire, the Bashkirs were split between the Kazan Khanate, the Nogay Horde, and Siberian Khanate.

In the late 16th and early 19th centuries Bashkirs occupied the territory from the left bank of the Volga on the south-west to the riverheads of Tobol in the east, from the river Sylva in the north, to the middle stream of the Yaik in the south, in the Middle and Southern Urals, in Cis-Urals, including Volga territory and Trans-Urals.

In the middle of the 16th century, Bashkirs joined the Russian state. Previously they formed parts of the Nogai, Kazan, Sibir, and partly, Astrakhan khanates. Charters of Ivan the Terrible to Bashkir tribes became the basis of their contractual relationship with the tsar’s government. Primary documents pertaining to the Bashkirs during this period have been lost, some are mentioned in the (shezhere) family trees of the Bashkir.

The Bashkirs rebelled in 1662–64 and 1675–83 and 1705–11. In 1676, the Bashkirs rebelled under a leader named Seyid Sadir or 'Seit Sadurov', and the Russian army had great difficulties in ending the rebellion. The Bashkirs rose again in 1707, under Aldar and Kûsyom, on account of ill-treatment by the Russian officials.
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>>52286360
>>52287283
The third insurrection occurred in 1735, at the time of the foundation of Orenburg, and it lasted for six years. From at least the time of Peter the Great there had been talk of pushing southeast toward Persia and India. Ivan Kirillov drew up a plan to build a fort to be called Orenburg at Orsk at the confluence of the Or River and the Ural River southeast of the Urals where the Bashkir, Kalmyk and Kazakh lands join. Work was started at Orsk in 1735, but by 1743 'Orenburg' was moved about 250 km west to its present location. The next planned step was to build a fort on the Aral Sea. This would involve crossing the Bashkir country and then the lands of the Kazakh Lesser Horde, some of whom had recently offered a nominal submission.

Kirillov's plan was approved on May 1, 1734 and he was placed in command. He was warned that this would provoke a Bashkir rebellion, but the warnings were ignored. He left Ufa with 2,500 men in 1735 and fighting started on the first of July. The war consisted of many small raids and complex troop movements, so it cannot be easily summarized. For example: In the spring of 1736 Kirillov burned 200 villages, killed 700 in battle and executed 158. An expedition of 773 men left Orenburg in November and lost 500 from cold and hunger. During, at Seiantusa the Bashkir planned to massacre sleeping Russian. The ambush failed. One thousand villagers, including women and children, were put to the sword and another 500 driven into a storehouse and burned to death. Raiding parties then went out and burned about 50 villages and killed another 2,000. Eight thousand Bashkirs attacked a Russian camp and killed 158, losing 40 killed and three prisoners who were promptly hanged. Rebellious Bashkirs raided loyal Bashkirs. Leaders who submitted were sometimes fined one horse per household and sometimes hanged.
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Please stop.
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>>52286360
>>52287390
Bashkirs fought on both sides (40% of 'Russian' troops in 1740). Numerous leaders rose and fell. The oddest was Karasakal or Blackbeard who pretended to have 82,000 men on the Aral Sea and had his followers proclaim him 'Khan of Bashkiria'. His nose had been partly cut off and he had only one ear. Such mutilations are standard Imperial punishments. The Kazakhs of the Little Horde intervened on the Russian side, then switched to the Bashkirs and then withdrew. Kirillov died of disease during the war and there were several changes of commander. All this was at the time of Empress Anna of Russia and the Russo-Turkish War (1735–1739).

Although the history of the 1735 Bashkir War cannot be easily summarized, its results can be.

-The Russian Imperial goal of expansion into Central Asia was delayed to deal with the Bashkir problem.
-Bashkiria was pacified in 1735–1740.
-Orenburg was established.
-The southern side of Bashkiria was fenced off by the Orenburg Line of forts. It ran from Samara on the Volga east up the Samara River to its headwaters, crossed to the middle Ural River and followed it east and then north on the east side of the Urals and went east down the Uy River to Ust-Uisk on the Tobol River where it connected to the ill-defined 'Siberian Line' along the forest-steppe boundary.
-In 1740 a report was made of Bashkir losses which gave: Killed: 16,893, Sent to Baltic regiments and fleet: 3,236, Women and children distributed (presumably as serfs): 8,382, Grand Total: 28,511. Fines: Horses: 12,283, Cattle and Sheep: 6,076, Money: 9,828 rubles. Villages destroyed: 696. As this was compiled from army reports it excludes losses from irregular raiding, hunger, disease and cold. All this was from an estimated Bashkir population of 100,000.
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>>52275730
>Denmark's poulation is now 9 million
>Denmark is now multicultural
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>>52275730
Wish Europe still looked like this desu
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>>52287486
Well, okay; but you asked to be told more about the Bashkirs
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