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おつ
ジャップサルは最低な劣等人種。
ching chong chong ping kancolle
>>52263080
スレ立てありがと
>>52263080
乙です
いつも本当にありがとう
>>52263112
ダンディーなネコだな
A bit of insight into just how little Japan can blame ALTs for the English proficiency of Japanese schoolchildren.
A school large enough to need 4 English teachers may have 1 ALT. Schools smaller will have an ALT from another school visit on occasion.
An ALT may see a particular class of students as often as once a week. It's not a rule, it's a schedule thing. There's simply not enough time to see them more often.
However, students have English at least three times a week starting in middle school.
So, you have five times as many people who see the students at least three times as often as the ALT.
Namely, the Japanese teacher of English. Who btw is not a bad person or a bad teacher or necessarily bad at English.
But ALTs are the problem lol
8th for my penis
在日を含めて韓国人は戦う相手を間違っているね
>>52263223
>"Hey don't blame ALTs, it's not like they even do anything"
You're only proving the point that they're redundant and the whole English education system must be rebuild.
>>52263317
Did you gain weight again?
>>52263329
How does saying they don't do anything prove they're redundant?
>bleach doesn't work
>I know, cause I don't ever use it
>>52263329
I guess I sort of agree with you though. You can't really complain about them not speaking English if they're not encouraged to speak at all.
If I can get one barely audible word out of a student some days, that's a huge victory.
>>52263317
いい素材だね
今度あのアメリカ旗のコラ職人に会ったら提供しとくわ
>>52263080
まゆゆ〜大好き〜
>>52263382
It's more like:
>bleach doesn't work
>I know, cause I don't ever use it, but I still pay a shit ton of money for it
I'm not slamming the native speakers who want to teach, I'm saying that natives need to be real teachers (like often they're in the EU), not an add-on.
So maybe not just hire anyone with a BA, but give that anyone a way to get some sort of "Teach in Japan" license or some shit.
>>52263587
the japs are the ones who don't let this happen, there always has to be a JTE, who usually sucks at english anyway.
なぜタカヒロの写真が消えた?
banされるようなこと書いてないよね
自分で消した?まさかなあ
他スレで何かしたか、コテで消されたか?
Why are you learning japanese instead of a useful language?
>>52263587
But many ALTs are real teachers.
And have whatever qualifications you can name. The fact is they are not utilized according to those qualifications whether you they have them or not. And all the Japanese teachers of English are "qualified" in that way too. So clearly it's not a lack of qualifications.
Anyway, this isn't even what we were talking about. You don't really need to be anything more than a native speaker to do what Japanese teachers of English have ALTs do. That's why Japan doesn't require them to have degrees. We just read to them most of the time and try to get them to talk to us. You don't need to be a teacher to do that. If you want proof, look at the five times as many teachers there are trying to do it as well and failing.
My point is, either you complain about the qualifications of Japanese teachers as well as those of ALTs or you complain about the qualifications of no one.
My suggestion is the latter, because again: many ALTs are qualified teachers and it makes no difference.
The problem is that kids are encouraged not to speak and not to stand out. They're encouraged to do what ever it takes to get good scores on tests so they waste their time memorizing things rather than learning them. Even if they have a teacher right there who is willing to help them learn it properly
So when you said the system needs to change this is what I though you meant.
>>52263080
まゆゆタン スパシーバ
おはようございます。
皆さん、こんばんは。
>>52263587
>>52263619
Could you describe how the class progresses?
All the natives I ever had here had full charge of class every single time.
what do you think of this Japanese metal band?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQI-6GKdn8
if you don't like metal, then no need to be rude
>>52263860 おはようー
>>52263900 こんばんはー
>>52263860
おはようアルバートバルボーサ。
>>52263900
>had full charge of class every single time.
That what I was suggesting.
Would you say your teachers were effective?
>>52264017
I forgot to take off the name
It happens in America too but the shortcomings of the educational system is often blamed on teachers. Especially by non teachers. Very strange.
It's easy to blame people but it's much harder to see sometimes how those people function within a system the structure of which is kind of hidden. All Japan needs to do to get proficient English speakers is first encourage their kids to be speakers period. Right now they Japan teaches it's kids to be passive recipients of information rather than people who take information and do something with it and communicate back something new
>>52263906
Melodic death metal? I like the angle by which the bassist do finger picking.
>>52264112
you literally can't tell japanese people this. Japan will never change, so they sit there wondering "hmm why are japanese people so bad at english?"
because of the way japs are, the first thought that comes to mind is "well it can't be us, so someone/something else must be the problem!"
It's literally pointless to teach english in japan because nobody ever makes any real progress, simply because of the way japs are. Only like 1 in 1000 japs is actually worth teaching, and shows results.
>>52264020
We had four hours a week. 3 of those were with a Czech for grammar etc. and 1 was with a native who didn't speak much Czech.
As for the effectiveness - there were around 15 people in the class but I'd say that for who gave a shit it was good practice. I think a grand total of 3 people were interested in actually talking to a teacher from the US. The rest probably didn't learn a thing.
>>52264289
>BloodyTamponTea
m8...
>>52264253
The difference between you and me is that you want to ascribe that to something about Japanese people as a fact of their existence. I prefer to say that it's an incentivized behavior that can be changed. Japanese people are not inherently stupid or incapable of learning English or incapable of being active listeners and speakers. They are just taught to behave in ways that don't facilitate the learning of a language. That can be changed.
>>52264171
I think they are pretty good, I have not heard a good Melodic death metal band from Japan before
>>52264376
>That can be changed.
I'm sure it can, but good luck with it. The moment you say anything bad or that something needs to be changed about japan, the posters in this thread flame you.
Try to force a japanese person outside of their comfort zone(i.e how they're taught to act) and they down.
But again, it's just the way japs are.
>>52264112
>All Japan needs to do to get proficient English speakers is first encourage their kids to be speakers period. Right now they Japan teaches it's kids to be passive recipients of information rather than people who take information and do something with it and communicate back something new
That seems to be true. The general pattern seems to be that non-native speakers of English who can speak at or above a conversational level put in a lot of effort outside of school, and usually consumed a large amount of English-language media.
If you don't practise outside of school, the lessons are pretty much wasted since everything but the bare basics tends to atrophy quite quickly.
>>52264456
Oh I see what you mean. Yeah I meant can in the sense of logical possibility. Not like anywhere near fucking likely lol.
I'm surprised I haven't been flamed yet to be honest. Slow night
>>52264327
いたたた・・・痛すぎる
Buddha said "Even if it's what I said, you must think about it yourself that it's really right or not like determine the authenticity of gold".
The slaves of the Abraham religion, do you understand?
There is never omnipotent God logically.
>>52264486
The funniest for me was when we had to choose a second foreign language most people chose German while knowing beforehand they don't like German
>>52264327
DON'T STOP ME NOOOOOOOWWW
>>52264486
That's true but I feel like many people are just already capable of it. Sure, most people who can score above average on the standardized tests likely did so by memorizing sample answers to questions and other things that amount to cheating the tests and beating them. But even those people who have that natural knack for English who really do understand and never study a second of their lives beyond what they get in class but pass anyway. Even they can't speak a word. They couldn't begin to practice speaking outside of class cause they never do it in class to begin with. That's what's breaks my heart some times. So many of them have been failed by this system.
Tokyo low town
さようなら、タカヒロ
報告しておいた
>>52264701
IM HAVING A GOOD TIME
>>52264893
おい、ジャップサルタカヒロをほっとけ、糞ジャップサルはいい奴を報告せず。
この放射劣等ジャップサルめ。
>>52264891
Would strip naked and jump in that water
Anon, I'm cold.
>>52265044
I warm you up.
>>52264891
Where was this picture taken?
>>52265044
>Anon, I'm cold.
Well Jesus Christ anon, it's not like I can control the weather.
>>52265044
You're cold because your heart is stone cold.
Let's eat KFC for Christmas.
Let’s make out with your gf for Christmas.
>>52265216
lol no
>>52264989
what are you going on about
>>52265299
If I was there I would strip naked and dive into the water
I have an English question.
Suppose there is a big number like 123,456,789, how do I request someone to read out the number of each digit, instead of one hundred twenty three million....etc.?
>>52265112
This is Kiyosu-bashi, isn't it?
Why do we have to wait all the way to February until we get the results from the JLPT?
The test is even read by a machine judging from the format of the answer sheets. What exactly takes such a long time?
>>52265349
>how do I request someone to read out the number of each digit
but you just did it?
>>52265349
Just ask them to read out each digit separately? Is this one of those instances where Japanese has a word for something very specific?
>>52265349
Say "oi you, come here and read out these numbers individually!".
>>52265345
You are a brave man.
>>52265435
Do you think "can you just read out the number of each digit?" is correct?
>>52265486
>>52265492
Oh..."separately" or "individually"
Would you say "1-2-3-comma, 4-5-6-comma..." or something so that listener would find it easier to write it down?
Or "1-2-3 thousand, 4-5-6 hundred..." and so on?
上を向いて歩こう~
Anakin! Anon is evil!
Osaka old street
>>52265622
Would strip naked and dive into those plant pots
>>52265566
"Can you read the number of each digit please?"
They'll reply saying each number.
eg. 123,456
One, two, three, four, five, six.
>>52265622
Hi friend, waitu piggu here. I'm in Osaka right now. Beer time?
>>52265572
無理だね。上を向くと前の地面が見えないから転んでしまう。
Oh, I'm going to Tokyo tomorrow. Can anyone recommend me a good soapland? Price doesn't matter, I want quality. I've heard I should go to Yoshiwara?
>>52265692
That guy is not your friend. He's crazy guy. You had better not meet with him
>>52265702
でも上向くないなら涙がこぼれてしまう。
>>52265748
Thanks for the warning. Pic related is what I ate earlier at Dotombori. Was good.
>>52265566
>Would you say "1-2-3-comma, 4-5-6-comma..." or something so that listener would find it easier to write it down?
No, you'd just say each number in a row. If you asked them to read the numbers individually, they wouldn't pronounce the comma or say "hundred" or "thousand".
>>52265851
ﾌﾞﾚｯﾌﾞﾚでわろた
歩きながら撮ったろww
>>52265669
what are you talking about.
>>52265733
Wait for The F(ucker)
>>52265733
http://www.tora-ana.jp/detail.php?id=474
200k yen
>>52265683
"read out" is too much?
>>52265855
Understood. Cheers!
>>52265851
Do you think it's worth going to Osaka just to eat takoyaki? I live in Tokyo btw and I only know 築地銀だこ around here
Do you know the best takoyaki shop?
>>52265958
"Read out" is fine as well.
>>52265748
Anon, we're all crazy here.
>>52265692
Hi, foreigner
Have you eaten Takoyaki?
a is just an upside down g
>>52265927
I said, I would strip naked and dive into those plant pots.
>>52265733
Go to Yoshi and ask for the price at the doors
>>52265937
Daaaamn. She looks mighty fine. A half at that too. But these are "health delivery" services, meaning I don't actually get to stick my benis in her bagina, right?
>>52266030
He love to suck assholes.
Boipussy XD
>>52266082
>tfw it's true
>>52265981
Osaka is a great place, definitely worth a visit. I just took this Takoyaki as street food, they're all pretty good. Just pick any.
>>52266078
Yes, see >>52265851
>>52266082
Kjánin thín
>>52266129
I thought in Soaplands you usually don't get to stick benis in bagina.
>>52266189
thanks
>>52266218
It's officially not allowed. But from what I understand, depending on the place and the girl it can still happen. If she likes you, then that will naturally increase the odds.
>>52266218
do they give handjobs?
if not I don't understand the point of this business
>>52266090
N-No way desu
The Japanese are currently in the middle of developing technology to convert grown men into cute 2D anime girls.
Are you excited about this?
>>52266307
It's anything that doesn't involve penetration so yes.
>>52266353
It has tremendous potential for a camwhoring service
You can even employ men
>>52266307
Everything but full sex is allowed. So there will be handjobs, blowjobs, even titjobs in the rare case a Japanese girl's boobs are big enough.
>>52266189
nice!
you should eat 'okonomiyaki' next.
>>52266449
Handjob is fine, but when grill does blowjob, do you wear a condom?
フェラはゴム梨ですか?
鳥軟骨の唐揚げが歯に挟まります
>>52266552
それはあなたが歳を取ったからです
老人は歯に隙間ができます
>>52266129
you can google some story of raw sex experience with her
but not for sure
http://www.dmm.co.jp/litevideo/-/detail/=/cid=118abs223/
>>52266611
わたしは7歳の幼女です
>>52266611
経験談ですか?
おやすみ
>>52263152
That's Chinese
>>52266735
よし、クソして寝ろ
>>52266735
have a nice dream
basha-michi
>>52266353
Not the Japanese, that is western technology
Käsekuchen mit Erdbeersoße schmeckt gut
あー、外人扱いを飽きちゃった・・・
>>52266683
The escort agency page does say that you have to sign a form agreeing to the rules (no benis in bagina). I guess it's up to the girl whether she wants it or not?
>>52266683
yes and depends on money
>>52266731
いいえ
親がそのように言ってました
>>52267136
でもあなた外人じゃん
>>52267198
So if I'm nice to her, and pay the highest possible amount, the odds would increase? I guess that halfie girl you linked does count as "AV course"
>>52266449
>even titjobs in the rare case a Japanese girl's boobs are big enough.
巨乳の嬢が僕のチンチンをおっぱいで撫でるのが欲しいなあ
I'm quite upset that I will never be part of a girl group in Japan [spoiler]or Korea[/spoiler]
On a completely unrelated note, I have decided that living with my parents at age 30 is shit. I had a girl kind of hit on me when I was out. She asked if I was leaving and was waiting for me to say 'do you want to leave with me?', but I can't invite her home as it's too embarrassing. I haven't had sex for 4 years and some sex tonight would've been nice.
>>52267370
Just go to a brothel over there. You can find plenty of eastern European prostitutes whose tits are big enough.
眉目秀麗扱いを飽きちゃった。
無教養のバカと思われたい。
>>52267529
Are house prices in Australia as ridiculous as they are in the UK?
>>52267529
Should have gone to a hotel desu senpai
My hips are moving on their own!
>>52267585
参考になる人は沢山いるじゃないか
>>52267625
my dad's house is a four bedroom house with a backyard in inner-Sydney worth roughly the equivalent of £1058828.30
>>52267701
>>52267585
ごめん
なんでそんなに日本語が変なの?
帰国子女?インターの学生?
>>52267701
sorry that's me
>>52267625
The median (or average, forgotten which) property price in Sydney is over $1m.
how can you say you love her if you can't even eat her poop?
>>52267905
>even
Do I have to go further than eating poop to prove my love?
>>52267701
>>52267905
oh that reminds me, something so stupid as Elfenlied shouldn't be allowed to give me a boner
>>52268017
How far are you willing to go?
>>52267730
そうかなるほど
ウンコのリア充の二次元萌え~
>>52267775
Yes,
I got back from N.Y. just now.
トモダチ ニ ナリマセウ
What are Fujoshis really like?
>>52267871
>over $1m
How can people afford such an expensive house? If it's median, it's really shockingly high.
>>52268340
Maybe it's australian dollars which brings it down to ~700k.
That's still a lot, but Australia also has a much higher median wage than the US for example, so it's not as outrageously high as it seems (but still definitely pricy)
明日漢字試験があります
よく勉強しましたから大丈夫です
>>52268419
Oh I see. Australian dollar.
Yes, still, it's relatively high. But they must be able to get a huge mansion, I suppose.
>>52268492
頑張ってください。
きっと大丈夫ですよ。
>>52268492
がんばって!!
I want to go to Japan but I don't want to go alone
I don't have any friends who I would travel abroad with
tfw no qt to take with me
足に踏まれたいです
>>52268634
Dude... nothing wrong with traveling alone. I'm traveling here by myself right now. Japan is one of the easiest countries to travel in because it all is so organized.
>>52268691
What do you do all day? Just walk around?
>>52268688
俺も
>>52268286
アメリカ人じゃないことだけは確か
>>52268286
ニューヨークどうでしたか?
>>52268492
うまくいきますように。
>>52268634
How about taking a qt home with you instead?
>>52268492
グッド・ラック、ソマリア君
>>52268543
>>52268631
>>52268789
>>52268787
皆、本当にありがとう!
今日は楽しかったです、今からベッドへ行きます
おやすみなさい
>>52268751
Ummmm... visit cool places, see cool stuff, eat great food, drink beer, visit soaplands?
>>52268492
この漢字を覚えてろ
>放射
>劣等人種
>ジャップ猿
>>52268875
>visit soaplands?
Are these places easy to find even if one doesn't know Japanese?
>>52268872
おやすみ
>>52268945
There are a few that tolerate foreigners. You just need to look them up on internet forums, not difficult. I'm going to try one in Tokyo either tomorrow or 2 days from now, depending on how horny I feel.
Kneel down. You're in front of my peepee.
>>52268634
I live in Tokyo and I see so many, really many foreigners who seem to be travelling alone. So if I were you, I would go to the country I want to.
I myself travelled Europe alone and it was really nice.
And if you travel alone, you can always go wherever and whenever you want. You just wake up and decide where to go on the place, too. That's how I travelled Europe ( I woke up and felt like going to Italy, then I took a train to Italy...) Nothing to worry about desu.
>>52268507
>But they must be able to get a huge mansion
no.
How many of them would you fuck?
http://youtu.be/-Wxt08wtheM
>>52269027
Ah yes, I've read about that most red light district business and such do not accept foreigners, seems a bit weird though, I'm pretty sure Amsterdam makes a shitton of money with it's sex tourism in that famous red light district of theirs
>>52269095
Only you ;)
>>52268777
ハ・・How did you know?
>>52268787
I was a businessman and I was working in the investment banking company and I was an intelligent chief executive officer.
Though I got tired of N.Y.
>>52269206
The reason is that a lot of foreigners simply don't understand how the system works. That, and the language barrier. So for a lot of red light stuff in Japan, they make it only available for Japanese simply because it can cause quite some hassle to take in foreigners who don't know how things work.
Foreigners who speak Japanese are more in the middle, they will be okay for some places, while some not.
>>52269223
So you're a rich motherfucker
>>52269072
(´・ω・｀) Life is hard desu
>>52269223
But your English doesn't sound natural. It's like something written by a non-English native high school student.
>>52269223
Do you know Horiko san?
>>52265937
But she doesn't have any available time slots ;_;
>>52269095
What is a vine? The make up trick or the selfie video or what?
>>52269424
www
>>52269513
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vine
>>52269513
a vine is a very short (~5 second) funny video
originally invented by black people
>>52269513
>What is a vine?
These:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTHbY9mVYAM
>>52269510
She must be over 25 yo BBA
![348ilv8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8M7NMAp.jpg "348ilv8[1].jpg")
Simon and Martina are moving in Japan, guys! Finally!
How excited are you?
>>52269392
Hello, common people
>>52269453
You may know nothing, but this is a standard speaking in NY now.
>>52269485
He was my subordinate.
>>52269631
She's just your average Japanese girl.
>>52269576
These are hilarious. Laughing at not with obviously.
>>52269704
>Simon and Martina
アメリカ人?
だれ?w
>>52269728
Do you know Horiko san?
日本の好きな曲を教えてください
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBTgCBTNjw0
>>52270038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTwUiUCO7l0
I love this IKEA Taiwan Ad.
And Taiwanese men are hot (> <) !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUv37-mzgzk
>>52270407
(> <) !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUmbYekxeoc
>>52270407
Are you homogay or a grill?
Good night.
>>52270829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI
>>52270829
Oyasuminasai nihonjin, amai yume
Thread music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeOpyWVPMr8
>>52270829 good night, star wars cake
Thread music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUSi8OveTag
is there great Korean?I want to be great Korean
we japs had done so many war criminals in asia
so we japs apologize to South Korea for it
>>52270752
grill
But not fujoshi.
good night
>>52271175
Thank you for wonderful music.
>>52270038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARzL3tRZ7Dc
>>52271429
T O K Y O
O
K
Y
O
Konbanwa tomodachi!!!!!
I just ate my first kourampies of the Christmas season. It was perfect! Merry Christmas guys!!!
>>52271729
Merry Christmas!
Hi guys~
>>52272019
Hey, fella
Who here /ほうじ茶/
>>52271729
konbanwa!
I don't know kourampies but what a kind of food is this?
It looks sweet and tasty.
>>52272047
This is the occasional posting HK flag (not Peru). I am in Tokyo now.
>>52272108
What are you doing in Tokyo?
おおきに dialect
>>52272144
On the way to the US. I picked a weird flight routing so that I can spend ~1 day in Tokyo.
>>52271729
Ruffy!
Good to see you still around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vPpV2Z-QsA
Why are swedes so awkard
>>52272095
kourampies is a traditional christmas sweet. it's sort of like a biscuit, but a bit softer and sweeter. It's made of flour, butter, eggs and some cognac. you put the mix in the oven, and then you put lots of sugar on it. it tastes very christmassy, if that make sense :3
we also make melomakarona this time of the year. they are made with honey as the main ingredient and go very well with your coffee!
>all this christmass stuff in this thread
>japan is an atheist country
>celebrating the birth of the christian god
>has fucking christ and mass in the name
what?
why would you celebrate the birth of a god you don't believe in?
especially one that from the people who fucking nuked you, thats like palestine celebrating pass over?
>>52272144
I went here today (Japanese Christmas market has to be the number one tourist attraction for foreigners, right?). Actually I probably should go to sleep. Will follow up later.
おやすみ〜
>>52272193
yeah I really like this general. everyone is polite and generally nice. I come to say hello from time to time
良い一日を!
>>52272332
>he still thinks christmas has anything to do with jesus
I found this hilarious.
>>52272258
Thanks for explaining, I want to make and eat them!!
It seems I can collect the ingredients.
>>52272537
>I will never open an Austrian food shop in Japan and purposely fuck up the menu
チョッパリ、チョッパリ、チョッパリー!
>>52272332
Japan is a shinto country. It is incorporated in everything of our life that we don't even aware of it.
In Shinto, we think there are more than 8 millions Gods, so Jesus is just one of those more than 8 millions Gods.
>>52272859
チョンきめえww
I want a gf.
私のホストファミリーは私に麻雀セットのクリスマスプレゼントを送りました
ここに着く日を楽しみにしています
>>52272332
>the birth of a god
>from the people who fucking nuked you
Is Jesus American?
is star wars popular in japan?
>>52274155
イタリアに住んでいる日本人ですか?
>>52274299
いや、ただのエロ本を翻訳するロリ博士です
>>52274279
Yes, very popular in Japan.
But Star Trek is not so much.
>>52274210
>Is Jesus American?
yes
also as far as western culture goes were the closest to them because russia isn't western and commies don't believe in jesus
>>52274362
ロリ博士は最高だと思います。
君はどんなロリ博士ですか?
What car do you drive?
あるいは君は愚か者である
真実はたいてい人を裏切る
資料館にその深淵の一つはある
>>52274155
おおー、よかったじゃん!!
>>52275002
None.
When a Japanese person thinks of Japan do they think of Prefectures and cities or do they think of regions?
I don't think Australians in general don't talk about regions (unless it's a place with nothing of note over a huge area, e.g. The Kimberleys). However stuff in Japan refers to the Tokai region and such quite often.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYpAywu7nZY
How do you weebs feel about this?
These fine folks reached your dream about going to the besto country in the world, but they aren't buying your stupid animé figurines, or respecting their obsolete traditions
they are having fun, they are drunk and breaking shit up
>>52276654
http://www.asahicom.jp/articles/images/AS20151215004858_comm.jpg
they put trash in trash bags
how would you translate 諸君
is it like Ladies and Gentlemen?
I found the little old notes that i wrote when i had been addicted to the character making.
(￣ω￣)
