Early 2014
>33 rubles per USD
>Crude 110$/BBL
>Foreign relationships steadily improving
>Country reputation up because of the olympics
>Still friends with Ukraine
Now
>70 rubles per USD
>Crude 37 $/BBL
>Economy in tatters
>Most foreign relationships pissed away
>Country reputation as "the big evil guys" re-established
>At proxy war with Ukraine
>Gained a useless patch of land the other regions have to support because the piece of shit won't survive on its own
All this bald fuckhead had to do was not wave his dick around and try to take Crimea and the world would be a much better place for everyone, especially us.
Most int and poltards who have never been to russia's small towns support put-in and see him as white knight
Eventhough russia is second sweden
>Country reputation as "the big evil guys" re-established
This is really """""""""""""""""""""""""""bad""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>Кpым нaш! Дaли пacacaть зaпaдy!
muh black sea
>>52261499
>Дa вы гocдoлг CШA видeли? Mнoгoхoдoвoчкa, Oбaмa aбизянa
>>52260941
This is the result of being a tactician instead of a strategist.
>>52260941
And soon you will transit country From china to Europe.
And also chinese resource storage.
You are marginalised because there is no place in Europe for country who breaking signed by you International laws and guarantees.
M N O G O H O D O V O C H K A
>>52260980
>russia's small towns
Why,what is wrong with small russian towns?
>>52261582
>>52261679
нe тaк
мнoгo хoдoв oчкa
>>52261605
You'd think a nation of master chess players would be good at this shit.
Putin is smart. He's playing the long game. Russia won clay and has proven you didn't collapse without EU imports. You've instead hurt EU economies more. Ukraine is collapsing once again under their own corruption. They will collapse further once Norstream 2 is operational. In future a friendly Ukraine government will come to power and relations will be back to normal.
Russia has also redeemed itself internationally through fighting ISIS. American and NATO hypocrisy has been exposed wide open.
>>52261695
Cities beside moskau and st.petersbourg
Viderelated
https://youtu.be/s7ZsKaprKgA
>>52261822
>You've instead hurt EU economies more
That's bullshit though.
Gee bro, guys like this >>52261630 would 'marginalise' us regardless. At least we have Crimea (and a lot of fun).
>>52261944
I personally am not having fun with this ruble.
How am I supposed to buy my model kits now?
>>52263315
>How am I supposed to buy my model kits now?
stuff like this is the sad part to me about all of this shit, way more than the grand scheme. you should be able to enjoy your model kits, anon
>>52261822
good luck have fun
>>52263315
hey, at least you can drink away the pain with even cheaper vodka
>>52260941
>tfw my ex will die a poor whore's death in this abysmal shithole
>>52261836
What a depressing video. I wanna visit my qt in Makhachkala but she fucks my mood showing around. They can be poor but why is it so difficult to clean streets?
>>52263473
But I don't drink alcohol.
>>52260941
but now we think Russian is super-power once again
CRIMEANS ARE RUSSIANS
And "patch of land the other regions have to support " is American propaganda, comrade.
And Crimea happened as a result of coup in Ukraine, and the resulting Ukraine-EU agreement that's going online this New Year, I believe
Is his Q&A online? Are there english subtitles? Is it real butter?
>>52263515
i can definitely connect with the rhetoric of this exemplified feel
If the EU/US had managed to steal Ukraine away from Russia completely it would have been disastrous for you long term.
America won't be happy until Russia is completely cucked because it is trying to neutralise a threat while Russia is still 'weak'
If you want Russia to break up and balkanise, fine, but you can't really fault putin for trying on some level to defend his/Russia's interests
>>52261760
well they kicked them out and marked as traitors
>>52260941
If Russia didn't fuck up Ukraine I'd support you guys 100% now.
Also if you would cede territories to Ukraine that are rightfully their my opinion would rise.
Just my 2 cents.
> butthurt russian teenagers want to shit country away so they can work at mcdonalds for eu minimum wages
You don't deserve Putin.
>>52264196
ukraine isn't even a real country though
>>52264239
At least their government doesn't protect child-molesting pakis.
>>52264196
What happened to Ukraine? Is there a war or what?
>>52264196
>cede territories to Ukraine
what about people? 2 mln approx.
>>52264611
>>52264670
Well we had an almost identical situation with Serbia. We sent them packing on tractors.
>>52264196
Ex-Soviet states don't have shit that's "rightfully" theirs.
Besides their eternal anal-pain.
>>52261499
Oh look, its all those symbols on the calculator that never get used.
>>52264769
ethnic cleansing? You guys are Masters of this.
>>52264811
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
>>52261836
My gf wants to live in st.Petersbourg. How much shittier would it be than a nice small western European town?
>>52265286
It's like living in Helsinki. Everything is modern.
>>52261605
>This is the result of being a tactician instead of a strategist.
Most accurate post itt
>>52260941
>Gained a useless patch of land
You can't really grasp Russia's geopolitical game
>>52260941
yeah, you basicly lost 10 years of economicdevelopemnt for crimea
>>52265448
Russia *already* had the warm water port in Crimea + the huge military base there.
slava rossii, nato sosi
>>52260941
>>>Country reputation up because of the olympics
>>Most foreign relationships pissed away
The rest of the world never really liked Russia.
>>52266270
we know...
>>52265286
It's less polished for sure. Been there this summer, it's kinda dirty compared to Moscow.
>>52265730
They were going to kick us out. With all that jumping and hang the Russian rhetorics it wouldn't last too long.
>>52264855
No ethnic cleansing, just Serbs returning form vacation. No one forced them to do it.
>>52266820
I don't think they could have kicked you out. It's interesting what happened a few years earlier:
>The Treaty of Friendship and Co-operation – by which Russia rents its naval base at Sevastopol from the Ukrainian government – is so far-reaching in the rights it gives the Russians to exercise their military powers that it is seen by many in Ukraine to undermine the country's independence. In 2008 the Ukrainians said they would not renew the lease when it expired in 2017. But they buckled under the pressure of a gas-price hike and, in 2010, extended the Russian navy's lease until 2042.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/07/ukraine-russia-crimea-naval-base-tatars-explainer
So *by law* you had that base until 2042, and you could have used similar tactics to extend the lease again and again. If the Ukrainians were the aggressors against rightful Russian clay, then you could hit them back with much less damaging repercussions.
>>52267000
You don't think that post-pro-US/EU coup that shit could have been ripped up? Agreements are just agreements and ultimately it's up to the government of the time to honour them.
>>52267174
It's a treaty, breaking treaties can have grave consequences. Yes they COULD have just ripped it up, but in doing that they would be giving Russia some justification in taking back Crimea. It would be Ukraine clearly in the wrong and much harder for the international community to sanction Russia.
Besides, the naval base at Sevastapol had a strong Russian military presence. The Russian Black Sea Fleet was based there. There was a garrison in the base.
Ukraine couldn't have attempted a takeover without things getting very messy indeed, and they couldn't withstand a counter-attack from Russia into Crimea.
Yet Russians still love Putin. What a strange nation.
>>52263315
Doesnt zvezda still produce?
>>52267610
I'm more into gunpla myself.
>>52267822
>gunpla
>not glorious soviet armor
tovarish i ...
>>52267000
They'd find a way around it.
Last week the IMF changed their rules just so that Ukraine could avoid paying its debts.
International law is sacred unless we can screw a country we consider inferior, huh?
>>52267493
Because of sanctions he can play the victim card and say everything is shit because of the Amerikanski. It's a perfect diversion.
>>52267427
>the treaty is void, it was signed by a Russian puppet
There you have the line of reasoning they would use to rip up the treaty as soon as they got the chance.
>>52267876
In terms of aesthetics the main armour-producing nations in WW2 go
Germany > UK > USSR > USA
>>52267918
cant disagree. im more into post WWII armor
>>52267493
He's our legitimate president, bro. What should we do, overthrow the government and jump? No thanks, I know a couple of nations which did, nothing good about it.
>>52260941
RASYJA VPERED
>>52268011
>legitimate
>>52268092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29k_T_o9To
>>52268092
Hey, how's the wall construction? Built something convincing lately?
>>52261884
We're the ones who have been hit the hardest in EU, and all it did us slow growth. And it greatly reduced the amount of contraband reaching our country. A massive hit to our economy indeed.
>>52268152
> implying we need an approval from British colony or some such
Go teach democracy somewhere else.
>>52268201
nah estonians are the ones building one
>>52265286
Depends. How much do you and your wife like meth?
>>52268288
Enjoy your 0.3 rubles, ivan
>>52268703
Where does this come from I wonder. I thought that stupid all Russians get paid for their posts and no one supports the President legend told it was 15 rubles.
>>52263785
>US had managed to steal Ukraine away from Russia
Things that'd never happen.
They are interested in the EU though but probably wanted to retain ties with Russia. However, Putin's move just pushed them even harder to the EU and away from Russia (politically speaking).
>>52261605
This t.b.h.
It looks like Putin's very impulsive and doesn't plan ahead
In the USSR there was a politburo, but now he alone is calling the shots
I don't want to think what happens when Putin dies
>>52264239
According to a treaty our countries and Russia signed to recognize them and their borders (they had to give their nukes to Russia, probably good for everyone except them)
>>52268848
>implying Putin isn't great at strategery
In 2-3 years the saudis will be bankrupt and Putin will have his Iranian friends start a civil war there. This fucks over Russia's most aggressive rival, while ensuring that the entire mideast (sans Israel) becomes a Russian satellite state. Then Moscow controls half the world's oil supply.
Don't miss the forest for the trees. Putin knows what he's doing.
>>52268848
Nothing. Some other guy gets pushed forward by the people who robbed Russia blind in the 90s.
>>52266270
We were starting too I think. We definitely liked them more than when they were Soviets and more than now.
>>52268999
Iran is Shia, majority of Middle East is Sunni
They will never accept that
>>52268245
You chose the wrong side
>>52268815
Last ten years or so, I've been visiting Ukraine once or twice a year. My niece started telling me this shit Ukrainians usually bring here - superior nation, unique culture, fucking Russians are to blame etc. around five years ago. Before it all even started, I had to gradually remove all the Ukrainians from my google+ circles - I wanted to pracrice the language - but they seemingly had nothing to speak of but klyaty moskali. I don't think Putin's move changed anything in that department.
>>52267174
Breaking treaties isn't a good thing plus it'd give Russia a legit Casus Beli. If Russia threatened to invade we'd panic and pressure them to restore it.
>>52260941
Do all ex-soviet countries get affected by Russia's present downturn?
>>52260941
>>Crude 37 $/BBL
Not his fault.
>>52269249
Yes, because most of our trading is done with Russian or CIS businesses
>>52269325
But his problem
>>52260941
>At proxy war with Ukraine
Ukraine and maidan faggots = different things
Come on, there is just a little hockey feud between Russia and Ukraine
>>52269249
>all
no
>>52269480
what the fuck are you doing
>>52268848
>I don't want to think what happens when Putin dies
This actually bothers me the most. Not a fan of Putin but it seems his successor could end up being worse.
>>52269557
You think ww3 can happen?
Sweet
>>52265730
Actually the Kiev regime repeatedly said they would revoke Russia's right to Crimea in February and early March 2014.
It was actually Yakunovch selling Crimea for another 10 years in exchange for oil that turned Maidan from a small protest over the rejection of EU trade, to a full blown civil revolt.
>>52269201
>wanted to pracrice the language -
Don't a lot of them live/work in Russia or are those the ones who only speak Russian?
>>52269367
Do you actually like that crappy suggestion for a flag?
>>52269465
Whats a Balkan country friend?
>>52269217
No it really is not.
The revolutionary government revoked a bunch of Yakunovch's deals with Russia and they just revoked the loan he got from Russia with the help of the IMF.
>>52269511
I think polish Donbass will be the optimal way to stop east ukrainian war
ukrainians even can't took Crimea "back"
they'll never go to a conflict with a NATO country
>>52269681
You missed the point where I was implying before Crimea Russia would have had more political leverage to enforce the treaty.
>>52269135
Lolnope. Long term outcome is actually good for us.
>>52260941
>foreign relations improving
>Olympics improving view of Russia
Maybe..... All I remember was talk of how Putin is a dictator, gay hater, and Sochi would be a terror filled shithole with no snow.
>oil
Putin has no control of oil prices. Crimea happened in March. Oil prices peaked nearly 3 months later when OPEC announced a market protecting strategy.
The proxy war with Ukraine has been done since February.
The economy is down 4%. In tatters is Ukraine with a 18% loss.
>useless patch of land
You think Putin is an idiot? He knew damn well what Crimea is worth and what it would cost. That useless patch of land had the Russian mediterranean navy stationed in it, 6 million ethnic Russians, and keeps Ukraine out of NATO.
When oil begins to rise again, and Russia helps defeat ISIS, and negotiates a peace treaty in Syria. Russia will be back.
Oil has nothing to do with Ukraine.
>>52269737
But why would Poland want Dumbass? If anything they carve out the western bit. Lvov and all that.
>>52269749
No they would not. The Kiev regime said it would revoke Yakunovch treaty's. Especially that one.
Putin could bitch all he wants but America would not help him. Who in politics wants Russia's navy in the black sea and mediterranean?
>>52269839
I have no clue how.
That's like Canada deciding not to trade with America. They are a natural trade partner, and y'all definitely did not support sanctioning Russian oil oddly enough. I wonder why.
>>52269944
>US & Canada
The situation is not even remotely comparable, although I understand how you could not see that. Let's just say that Russia had some peculiar business practices, and we had them too, thanks to our soviet heritage, and sanctions hit those people specifically. The less business those people do the better it is for us.
>>52260941
Crimea river, bitch.
>>52270019
It's not like sanctions have an effect on those people. The Russian economy going downhill does.
But they'll be back. Your country will continue dying out. You'll never be as wealthy as Western Europe. You'll live a miserable and meek life under the clouds.
But oh man you'll get back against Russia. Cuz Russia is evil and you are good.
I hope you guys enjoy getting assfucked during the next war. You'll be first on the chopping block.
>>52270019
you mean like the mafia?
>>52270238
You either completely misunderstood what I was trying to tell you or you're a complete imbecile.
>>52270321
Not in the traditional sense, but yes. Smugglers, tax evaders and so on. On top of that we were never equal trade partners with Russia. It was a completely one sided relationship with them slapping us with various sanctions multiple times per year. Cutting them off like this is forcing people to reorient and look for trader partners in stable markets, instead of dealing with Ivans, hoping they'll be sober and sane tomorrow.
>>52261836
Just adding garbage pickup would make it look a lot less shitty. Why don't they do it?
>>52269598
>"sweet"
poland pls, you know what's going to happen first
>>52267493
I can see why, he has strong character. I have no trust for our government. So soft and slave of EU.
>>52269619
There are Ukrainians here. Most of them would speak Russian though. Even in Kiev, I used to spot mistakes obvious even to me in Ukrainian.
Anyway, I don't feel like looking for people IRL for that purpose specifically. I thought I would just read a couple of pages now and then, do some small talk etc. I don't have time for a language club or something on a regular basis. But a dozen or so guys I've been following tended to post that /b grade shit, so instead of arguing with them I just stopped reading. I think only one of them remained, he posts about math and Linux kernel patchsets, mostly in English.
I just watch The Big Bang Theory in Ukrainian instead. Funny as hell but doesn't improve my spelling.
>>52271062
I'd say I see things improving since the nineties. This year I've been to Penza, SPb, then that village not far from Nizhniy Novgorod, garbage pickup is (mostly) there. It's going to take a lot of time to make it all look nice and be comfortable, but we're working on it.
>>52260941
>>Gained a useless patch of land the other regions have to support because the piece of shit won't survive on its own
I think there's something in russian psyche about Crimea.Despite the rest of the front crumbling at an insane pace, you fought like rabid dogs to defend it in ww2, axis casualties were horrendous trying to overcome natural obstacle after natural obstacle by foot because tanks and airplane meant nothing in that natural fortress of a peninsula. Had to resort to giant siege cannons and old-school frontal assaults to break the last sieges.
The fact that you got it back in an almost bloodless fight against the Ukrainians is kinds genius desu. You just went a bit too far with Eastern Ukraine.
>>52261836
Kazakh invasion of Russia when? Liberate them poor people from poverty Nazarbayev.
>>52261582
its funny, but it is true
>>52271621
you must be an autist. putin has nothing to do with a real politics, he just serves his own mafia's family interests. 70% of russia belongs to 1% of russian citizens, does it tell you something? this motherfucker is just doing money for him and his friends, he depends of this mafia games, not having any real strong poltitcal decisions.
What will happen to Russia if Bernie Sanders gets elected?
>>52275613
>70% of russia belongs to 1% of russian citizens
>>52275613
I'd be happy about this if I were you. One good strong political decision would be to return Semipalatinsk.
>>52260941
funny thing is, by next year our president will be a Putin "light" and admire him, by next year or 2 years from now you will have one that would have worked well with the rest of the world and will reverse this.
I believe there is a big plot to keep the US and Russia at odds
>>52275680
I mean 70% of russian state's income is owned by putin and his friends. other 99% of russian people share 30%. that's why we are poor as fuck.
>>52261605
/thread
Win the battle, lose the war.
>>52275888
>we will have a different president
Had a giggle, good one mate.
>>52275923
They sound mean Tbh
>>52275773
we (I'm russian too) already have Crimea. do you feel better now? you can take the whole fucking kazakhstan, we still remain a corrupt nigger-tier poor shithole.
>>52275958
you will, putin isn't stupid, he's stepped into the background before.
I doubt it will be medvedyev again (brown haired sarkozy wannabe), but it will be someone different
>>52268011
That's one of the main problems with Russia as I see it, t-bh.
Ever since the old days, you guys give in to the government. It's late but you'll have to do it sooner or later and actually take control of the government to make it work for you, not you work for the government.
E.g. Catherine II "gifted" privileges to your nobles out of her own "good will", while at the PLC the king had to put it in writing that the nobles have their rights or he wouldn't become a king.
Wow, what do you know. More Soros funded shitposting.
Putin rescued your country from an even worse fate. You are lucky you can even afford a computer thanks to this guy. Oligarchs and America cry like a babies around this guy.
Putin is getting a little desperate for attention. He knows that no matter who wins the next US election, the entire world's eyes will be on them for the next couple of years. Most of the candidates who have a chance, are also skeptical of the middle eastern wars. It's another thing completely if the next President will be able to essentially pull out of the region or not.
But either way, the economy has gone to shit, and that would have happened regardless of the West's sanctions, albeit slowly. Russian space program has been out of the news for years. They have never been big on exporting their "culture" to other regions, partially also because their economy isn't as strong as Western nations.
Affecting the politics of the middle east is the only way Putin thinks Russia will stay relevant in the next decade.
>>52276545
Who is that bullying putin in the gif?
