>Better energy efficiency
>Reducing city area-more 'green' place
>accelerating usage of public transit
Why not?
Commieblocks attract Slavs like moths to a flame, that's why civilised countries try to avoid them
>>52211659
causes social degeneration, don't actually save that much space
>>52211742
>Domt save much space
Why?
>>52211895
because towers in a park have parks
the ideal is 19th century mixed use eurostyle buildings. theyre making a comeback in canada
>>52211895
the taller they get the more space needs to be between them. if you want to build anything larger than small apartments normal houses are just as efficient
>>52211659
Kolhoz Ghettos are places where not so nice bydlo live.
burn the slavic ghettos
>>52211659
i like em
unless it's old filled with shitty neighbors
>>52212325
>unless it's old filled with shitty neighbors
which most of the time they are.
At least in this country
>>52212343
dunno, but i live in a gommieblock which is pretty nice
tho it's too big for me alone, i never visit the other half of my apartment...
>>52211659
They're only better than normal people houses because it's illegal to point out that they're not better.
>>52212207
What? That's the worst of both worlds. No space, no backyard, and I have to share it with other people, and I don't get to see this everyday, and there aren't enough people to warrant things like gyms and pools.
>>52212325
I live in a 34m2 apartment in an area where at least half the people are immigrants.
I feel dead inside.
>>52212433
>muh back yard
>muh gyms and pools
>i have no idea how proper cities function
real cities have parks and rec centres everywhere and if you dont like people youre not fit for civilization anyway
for example toronto (2.5 mil ppl) has 150 rec centres while our americanlike sprawled out suburb mississauga (0.7 mil) has like 10
>>52212489
I live in a 62m2 apartment and also in PKS but luckily no shitskins in my area. However, when you go downtown where the sossukämppäs are located at...
>>52212433
Apartments make me hyperventilate.
We have so much fucking room here, I'm way too accustomed to it.
>>52212523
>if you dont like people youre not fit for civilization anyway
It's "civilization" thats not fit for me, maple bitchboi
>>52212617
*tips caveman club*
>>52212523
>wanting to only have to go downstairs instead of a mile on hot or cold days to swim or work out means I hate people
What? How is that any different than wanting to live close to a subway stop or supermarket?
>>52212753
>i dont like to walk
this is why you people are fat
>>52212750
you live there?
no its not energy efficient
rest is true but its really not efficient
cables, heating, insulation are shitty, too old and prone to catch fire
we literally spend most of our money of household expenses
t. commieblock owner
it gets better when its renovated like mine
>>52212781
It takes a lot more work to keep your home looking nice and fit to live in unlike all these niggers that live in the those wasp hives.
Home ownership is definitely not for lazy niggers.
>>52212828
No, but it is naer my house.
>>52212489
60m2 in a "multicultural" part of town (aka Africans and arabs).
Lotsa qt ghetto minorities tBh
Is this french guy father of commie blocks?
>>52212343
>
which most of the time they are.
At least in this country
t. pretentious warsawian nouveau rich
>>52212489
Same here, except in Sweden
>hear loud bangs outside
Never quite sure if they are fireworks on regular weekdays (common) or shots being fired (also common)
>>52212207
>19th century buildings
>literally the biggest energy waster ever (after medieval castles)
>moulds
>slowly falling apart and you can't do much about it because they are in protected zones
>>52212283
half true - but you still save a ton of space which you can use for public stuff (kid playgrounds, parks, shit like that)
they looked nice when new. People should clean them from time to time
>>52212781
>>52212753
>>52212915
the "everyone has his own house and there is nowhere to chill in the city" problem is one of the reasons why American teenagers drink, use drugs and have one of the highest rate of pregnancy in the world.
There is literally nothing else to do.
anyway, this would be my dream block, I'd say just the right hight
>>52212910
>cables, heating, insulation are shitty, too old and prone to catch fire
This is not a problem with commieblocks, this is a problem with your country.
Well, it depends on how you design them of course. If the area lacks infrastructure it will socially decay, you need good connections to the inner city to make it work. Schools and stores and general necessities must be close by in the neighbourhood also.
Of couse, if you cheat on the construction, choose the cheapest materials, hire some shitty firm to do the wiring and insulation, etc etc it will be a horrible place but it can also be a beautiful place to live.
>>52212910
A commieblock apartment will always be more energy efficient than a house due to only having one wall facing the outside.
The best part is free heating from the people whom rent under you, since hot air rises, don't even need floor isolation.
>>52212207
We never had these before because they're a retarded idea, but they've been building a bunch of these lately. Meanwhile shopping malls are near extinct because Americans are too lazy to get out and walk anymore. It's funny to watch them stop in the street as fat people waddle out of their vehicles while some brave soul finds a parking space. The apartments are insanely expensive compared to normal apartment complexes, and most of them appear to go unrented. They do attract the eurotrash wannabes and hipsters who wish to look back on a time which never was.
Kladno
>>52216642
topkek bro
I mean it's not even a nice location to live in, and then they decide to put hundreds of people in there.
>>52216700
gotta admit, its pretty nice building
>>52216751
nah this one is nice
>>52216831
is it bent? or is it the lens?
Angola commie blocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5-jxYncrTI
>>52216867
shitty lents I guess, but it was the nicest photo
>>52216389
fuck off sven
we can build houses with good insulation unlike you
why is every swedish is a fag with no knowledge of the outside world?
enjoying jamals dick fucking your children? yes its very progressive accept more
>>52216542
this is wrong
you cant have your own heating unit for every apartment because of safety and space issues
even if every building heats itself its very costy
option two is cheaper, but also means central heating, essentially heating the ground through the tubes gas/hot water leading to your building
ofcourse you need heat insulation, concrete is not a good for it
>>52211659
>>Better energy efficiency
False.
>Reducing city area-more 'green' place
False
>accelerating usage of public transit
False
>Why not?
Because of you.
>>52212325
>unless it's old filled with shitty neighbors
But it's always like this.
conventillo > commie block
A shame they are only in shitty parts of third world warzones. Colorful buildings are the reason I moved to Portland.
>>52217230
>Russians don't have limiters on their individual central heating radiators
>literally leave their commieblock windows open while the central heating works
>>52217354
Looks fun but not live to good.
>>52217725
Russians don't nave anything actually. They even have walls of concrete, without any heat isolation, they really heat streets up.
>>52212207
Wow, a shitty over-priced restaurant, a clothing boutique or two, probably a starbucks, all below some super high-rent apartments. This is truly the ideal.
>>52211659
Let me take you bitches to school:
(Lived here for 4 years)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lasnam%C3%A4e+40,+11413+Tallinn/@59.4338364,24.7957292,3a,75y,323.19h,93.32t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ_79-AO6i9bmg4gZA7Yujg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DQ_79-AO6i9bmg4gZA7Yujg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D40.237331%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x46929353a66c5603:0xe1cb51f485b6526a?hl=en
Nothing beats the cries of drunk russian neighbor beating his wife, windowsills thickly crusted with pigeon shit (coz they live on attic), constant reek of cat piss and someone cooking cabbage in corridor, heroin needles everywhere and toilet constantly smelling during warmer summer due old piping.
>>52218073
b-but you own commieblock apartments.....
t. commieblock apartment owner
>>52211659
Actually commie blocks are pretty awesome when you consider population density: you don't need "downtown" are like american cities do, because it's sensible to have businesses everywhere, since there's always tons of customers in walking range. So there's also no traffic, distances in city are small, everyone can just walk everywhere (which is healthy), therefore less pollution, etc. It's also easier to police and service more people in smaller area, you don't have to wait for ambulance or cops forever.
It's pretty sensible and functional.
It doesn't look all that nice though, especially commie blocks. And it's easy to overdo it (see: china)
>>52215715
I think so.
HK does the best with density, stores are nearby, everything in walking distance.
If only half the population wasn't filled with snobbish assholes.
>>52212523
>rec centres
Haha loser
>>52218315
only problem is noise. You could hear your neighbours talking and it's also inconvenient for parties.
>>52218137
i'm living in countryside house for reasons, and it's way more better then usual commieblock. Heat costs here about 150$ per month with electrical heaters. By the wway, original scheme for commieblock here is electrical plant, which warms up huge amounts of water, which delivered to commieblocks throw kilometers of pipes. It's cheap to produce, but fucked up from the point of saving enegy.
>>52218448
Higher quality commieblocks are better soundproofed, some people even open up the hallway with their neighbours for a party.
>>52218485
What are you saying? That hot water is literally waste heat in the first place.
>>52218485
You mean coal plants, right?
This is the heating scheme in 70% of bulgarian households.
the waste is immense, no doubt about it
>>52218485
This should clear it up.
>>52218448
>only problem is noise
This is the worst. Modern russian commieblocks have zero noise protection. Your life turns into hell until you made your own upgrade.
Or even this concept for maximum efficiency lmao.
>>52212523
>if you do things different or have different preferences youre wrong and inferior
I bet you have a thriving social life
>>52218523
Google тeплoтpacca, that's what i meant.
>>52218588
Yep.
>>52218669
This is a thing too. Works for simple and old systems.
>>52218866
Oh, so It's just a big boiler. Yeah, that's not very efficient.
>most densely populated country in Europe (apart from microstates)
>have one the lowest percentages of apartment usage in Europe
Riddle me this
Most newly constructed apartments here are pretty nice though, wouldn't mind living in one
What kid of buildings do you want senpai?
http://www.teoalida.com/world/hongkong/
>>52219050
Most newly constructed apartments are nice, but then they turn into shitholes after a generation or two because of neglience.
>>52218740
This is possible with thorium reactors. There was italian guy, rossi, he invented cold fusion reaction, us government bought his shit and packed him into black helicopter and flew him into unknown place.
>>52212343
I guess we are not that different in the East.
>>52219202
kek, andrea rossi is literally a scammer
Cold Fusion doesnt work
Thorium works though
>>52219258
CIA conspirator spotted.
>>52216542
> The best part is free heating from the people whom rent under you, since hot air rises, don't even need floor isolation.
its the other way round actually
the pipes for heating water go straight upward and pass through every apartment room
So if youre living in the first floor, whenever someone above you puts on the heating the pipes will also heat up your room
Heating from below is almost nonexistant, ceiling/floor insulation sadly is pretty good
t. lives in the top floor of a commieblock with cold feet while buddies in the first floor never need to heat
>>52219150
Nah, it's that most apartments constructed now are middle class non social projects with nice architectural features and brickwork in stead of commie concrete and panel blocks. They'll last. If we'd be building the same shit the commies did here in the seventies then you'd right tho lad.
>>52219225
The east is full of scumbags for "human beings", and the only thing I agree with the nazis is that they wanted to make a thorough ethnic cleansing of it.
>>52219258
Low on internet speed, so cannot bring more
http://zeenews.india.com/news/sci-tech/cold-fusion-is-real-claim-scientists_1559235.html
>>52217230
>Better energy efficiency
actually true
>accelerating usage of public transit
this too
>>52219338
it depends where the heating unit it
some have it on the top
This when?
is this commieblocks? japan is full of them.
>>52219136
>just fuck my cage up desu
This is what public housing looks like in New England.
>>52211659
>increased risk of socialization
>>52220457
It looks like there is no thought put into what that would actually look like from the perspective of a person on the ground.
>>52218866
Central heating isn't all that wasteful. Losses vary by month, but it averages to something like 12% or less. Might seem like a lot, until you consider that that average losses on an electrical line arevroughly 8%. And that's transporting eletricity, not heat. It also removes pollution from residential areas to outskirts of the city. When maintained properly central heat is a wonderful idea, especially when in cogeneration of electricity.
Sadly people in this country are too fucking stupid to comprehend that.
>>52220811
For some reason my region uses heating oil, which is ridiculously expensive. I have no clue why, but I think it may be due to the lack of natural gas infrastructure (very rocky soil).
>>52217354
and they call commie blocks ghetto...
>>52220945
We used to use natural gass mostly, but now it's mostly wood chips. At the moment the gass boiler isn't even running. Won't need to start it up unless temperatures drop to -10c or so.
There's also an oil boiler, but that's for when shit hits the fan (gass being cut off or something), as a reserve. On top of being expensive it's also rather "dirty" fuel.
>>52220945
Why don't you guys use district heating? Surely you have lots of powerplants etc. with excess heat to route into urban centers.
>>52220670
they look like low res textured building in an old shooter skybox
>>52215715
>>52218415
He managed to lay down the inspirational principles.
But people need to remember that his idea as to how a humane gommieblock might look like evolved, while the rest of architects kept sucking on his early shit as if it was the ambrosia of Gods.
His own factual gommieblock is the start of the latter half of XXc, almost three decades after the Voisin nightmare.
>>52223011
2bh I like LeCorbusier's ideas on architecture but not so much on urban planning. Pic related.
>>52220945
or may be you american has plenty of oil...
>>52224957
in 50 years this would probably be our only choice
>>52221268
We burn trash for district heating, steel mills usually sell their excess heat to the cities.
Trash burning has risen to a scale where we "buy" foreign trash to burn it.
>>52217230
If you look at OP's picture, it's built on top of a subway station.
People are only willing to walk so far to get to public transportation. For public transport to be profitable (as a business or in a macroeconomic sense) it needs users and ultimately certain levels of population density. Certain modes of transport, rail mostly, have bigger uptake zones, but also require more riders.
