why can't the americans admit that they lost vietnam?
Because we didn't
whats vietnam? i went to public school
because we've all heard "it ain't me" too many times already
>>52207681
they're the guys we beat in ww2
>>52207591
Because we didn't lose, you fucking beaner. We pulled out of that shit, and then those dog eating gooks couldn't hold their own.
>>52207591
It wasn't meant to be "won" in a traditional sense, just projection of power
>>52207591
>america
>lost the war in 'nam
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/10/travel/mcdonalds-opens-in-vietnam/
it just took a bit longer than expected
>>52207782
>>52207759
>>52207739
>>52207647
ayy lmao
>>52207647
>>52207739
>>52207759
South Vietnam fell. We pulled out. We lost. Let it go. Our relations are good now.
>>52207832
we should've nuked 'em
>>52208080
the soviets would've stoped you dumbass
Americans denying that they lost the war is just a meme, right?
They don't actually believe it, right?
It's kind of weird there's still alive, mutilated poor people there who were innocent and never got reparations from the US
>>52208175
Meme?
SOME FOLKS WERE BORN
>>52208175
Go fuck yourself, you live on a giant prison.
>>52208201
that's not all.....the US government got butthurt, that they decided to support this crazy man
>>52208201
who gives a fuck about those poor brown (yellow?) people, they love america now anyway
>>52208175
That also means australia lost as well, but that's not surprising since you're vets of losing silly wars.
>>52208235
m8, I've been to Vietnam and they do not
In Saigon there is a "Museum of American War Crimes"
>>52207591
because the usa won
You can't say they won. It's like the big bully, beating the shit out of the little weakling, then the bully gets bored and leaves. The weakling can't just claim victory
>>52208236
But the difference is that we don't deny it.
>>52208261
>"Museum of American War Crimes"
What a bunch of homos
No wonder the Americans lost the Vitamin war, fruits and vegetables are full of em'!
>>52208316
some pretty brutal stuff happened to both sides, you can't deny that
Omg i was fucking surprised at americans dont really admit it.
>>52208261
Vietnam has one of the highest civilian ratings of appraisal for Americans. And Saigon doesn't exist anymore, Zealandbro
>>52208337
stop
>>52208337
Many Americans refuse to eat fruits and vegetables.
The Vitamin war never ended.
>>52208357
the locals still call it Saigon instead of Ho Chi Minh, the south is still significantly less communist than the north
>>52208308
Except that is not what happened. They won. They completed their objectives and you didn't
>>52208337
yeah they're in lettuce leaves too.
and i know how much you canadians love leafs
>>52208367
>Americans will get their PTSD triggered by this
>>52207591
Why would we? We didn't lose that war, fucking bean shit
>>52208175
We didn't FUCKING LOSE faggot.
>>52208308
That's not how wars work
>>52208108
Maybe but probably not. There were plans during the war in Korea to drop nukes along the Korean-Chinese border to irradiate the area and prevent Chinese troops from crossing over. Soviets just kind of held their breath hoping it wouldn't happen.
>>52208393
We changed our objective midway thru the war to "eliminate VC." we almost finished if it wasnt for those meddling hippies. Oh, and our reason for the war was to "keep communism from spreading out of southeast asia." Did it? No...
>>52208437
What would a french person know about war?
>>52208408
Grapefruit is so fucking delicious, I'd eat that shit for breakfast every day if I could afford it
>tfw toast and nutella or cereal every day
>>52208261
I've been there too. The wikipedia page about it is hilariously filled with American salt. The place had some pretty brutal images on the walls
>>52208508
Did you go to the Viet Cong tunnels as well?
>This american "You are all LYING!!!!!!!!! "
Continue zoo-observing
>>52208308
Yes, it's exactly like that, except this time the little weakling killed 54,000 troops, crumbled the big bully's instilled regime in the south, and forced the big bully to evacuate the embassy by helicopter amid gunfire, then set up a communist "lunch money is mine bitch" regime in both the north and south.
>So, actually like one of those YouTube videos where the skinny little guy knocks the big bully right the fuck out.
>>52208528
>implying slavs aren't zoo exhibits
>>52208528
thanks for saving vietnam and syria from american hands
>>52208539
>t bh he'd probably make a pretty good meatshield
>>52208527
Yep and saw all the traps they made too. I think that was the place where they let you fire a gun at the end but I pussied out
>>52208489
U mad?
>>52208584
When you're right you're right
>>52208539
and the big bully killed exactly 20.4x the amount of troops the little guy did
>>52208591
Dad and I fired an AK, pretty sick 2bh
Those traps were fucking brutal though
>>52208591
>pussied out of firing a gun
I never knew it was possible to be this much of a pussy
>>52208616
And he still retreated
>>52208568
why are you so butthurt about America? Did they deport you and your parents or something
>Vietcong and NVA objective is to unite Vietnam under the rule of the Vietnamese communist party
>US objective is to stop Vietnam from being unified under communist rule
>Vietnam gets unified under communist rule
>this somehow represents a US victory
any discussion about the number of casualties is a red herring.
>>52208662
"retreated" they pulled out all armed forces with no problems brother
>>52208666
nice digits btw
>>52208567
>Implying americans is a nation
>>52208568
This is a trick of Putin to destabilize USA
>>52208459
But... the south was invaded and annexed to communist north. So communism did spread.
>>52208666
check em
>>52208717
do you own a track suit
how long can you squat
how much vodka can you consume without blacking out
>>52208666
Great Satan confirmed
>>52208705
>"retreated" they pulled out all armed forces
Yes thank you America, we already know what the word "retreat" means.
>>52208234
Pol Pot did literally nothing wrong
fuck Norodom
>>52208489
>American education
>>52208616
Yes, with many allies, over a decade, and vastly more money America had a higher K:D ratio. It does not change the fact that we lost the war. And actually, if you compare our military force including allies, with their military force including allies, the ratio is almost identical, although some figures have us losing just slightly more
Wars are about objectives, not K:D ratios. After many years they met their's while America lost our's.
>>52208717
It's more of a nation then your depressed, weak suicidal country will ever be. Your glory days ended in 1991, my friend
>>52208308
so we won the falklands
>>52208782
Are you implying that people don't believe you won the Falklands
Wow the butthurt is real
You guys know most Americans will say that the war was a total shit show and we lost right?
That is of course if the American in question actually knows what the war was. That's the said part. Most Americans don't know enough about the war to say anything about it.
Sorry if this is incoherent, I'm pretty drunk right now.
>American SWAT team busts into a building to rescue hostages
>Come out with dead hostages
>Normal people: "What the fuck, you failed"
>Americans: "No dude we killed like 100 of them"
>>52208717
>This is a trick of Putin to destabilize USA
i hope you invade the US soon
>>52208872
You wetbacks are just pissy that our country isn't complete shit.
>>52208872
Aw, look at little Mexico jealous of his better smelling, stronger, superior intellectual neighbors up north.
and >implying russia could even get passed the US navy
>>52208757
They didn't retreat, they withdrew
>>52208959
>They didn't retreat, they withdrew
>>52208931
> better smelling,
cheetos and coca cola dont smell good tho
>all those firearms, aircraft, guns n shit used by the US army in vietnam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_the_Vietnam_War
Why did the military superpower in the world have to sign a white peace with Iraq, fail in subjugating north korea, fail in subjugating vietnam and lose iraq? What's even the point of having a military if you can't play world police?
>>52209007
Conventional militaries are for conventional wars my friend
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN
>>52208916
>our country isn't complete shit.
American education
MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG
>>52208959
so we withdrew in the falklands
winners write history. we won the entire planet, so whatever we say goes. deal with it.
>>52208999
You literally put a stereotype, but its not a stereotype at all that mexicans smell. Its disgusting. When I visited Cancun, I took a bus to go downtown and the bus literally smelled of old fish tacos. And your water is disgusting and dirty as fuck. Nice trips btw
OOH THEIR RED WHITE AND BLUE
>>52209056
>>52209056
>we won the entire planet,
bashar is still undefeated
>>52208733
>do you own a track suit
Not needed >>52208733
>do you own a track suit
>>52208733
>do you own a track suit
>how long can you squat
>how much vodka can you consume without blacking out
I'm not a "gopnik"
>>52208780
>It's more of a nation then your depressed, weak suicidal country will ever be. Your glory days ended in 1991, my friend
It's because of thievy ukrainian and couple of treators at head of USSR
>>52208872
>i hope you invade the US soon
Continental global war is not needed for ALL. And we aren't barbarian like USA. It'll be our colony.
Refusal to admit your failures makes people forget your successes.
Everybody gets pissed when Americans claim they defeated Hitler, forgetting their amazing victory in the pacific. Vietnam was a hilarious failure but South Korea is still an independent state. Iraq is ruined despite never actually opposing the USA, but Afghanistan is arguably improved.
>>52209136
You're USAs bitch tho
Are they still commie? I don't hear anything about them nowdays
>be american
>have superior weapons
>can't beat some poor gooks
>retreats
>"W-we didn't lose the war we swear"
Because amerifats are indoctrinated from an early age that their country is the greatest in the world and can do no wrong.
>>52209136
>And we aren't barbarian like USA
you are kinda right.
>USA
Used 2 nuclear bombs against japan, because they saved MUH LIFES
>Russia
defeated japanese army in 2 weeks without using nuclear bombs
>>52209181
Enjoy your Trump, bro
>>52209245
>W-we didn't lose the war we swear
IT WAS TACTICAL RETREAT
>>52209161
This. Learn from the wise swede
>>52209245
we were to advanced to fight shit smelling gooks. conventional militaries are for conventional wars, not crazy guerilla gooks
>>52209278
The USA fought from Hawaii to Okinawa. You dont dare say shit that the US couldnt defeat them, but they did. Russia fought sprawled out forces in Manchuria that were extremely easy to beat. You can not say shit about WW2, what did your country do Mexifag?
>>52209358
Conventional wars died with the invention of nuclear weapons. You needed to adapt to this 70 years ago, because now it seems crazy guerrilla is the superior method of warfare.
>>52209278
>they saved MUH LIFES
They wanted to show Stalin, that they're strong. But first soviet bomb made a parity between USSR and USA.
tbqh the cold war is still ongoing
ISIS/"moderate" rebels = Khmer rouge
USA = USA
Saudi Arabia = China
Turkey = Thailand
Russia = USSR
Syrian army = Vietnamese army
>>52209408
It only seems superior because the US always seems to pick fights with them. Ever notice how every war the US fought in the 20th century post ww2 that was conventional they completed their main focus? (e.g. Korea, Op. Just Cause, Grenada, Persian Gulf, Kosovo/Serbia) and then there were the few times the Americans actually beat the guerillas, most recently the Taliban in Afghanistan
>>52208357
>high rate of appraisal
>support American government policies
They also have obviously not been to the South.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
> expecting sense from Americans
> being this dumb
> mfw
>>52207591
Bump
>>52207832
>Australia - 500 dead
>New Zealand - 37 dead
>>52207786
>A FUCKING LEAF
>>52208053
U r retard
>>52211597
do the mini australians, at least admit that they lost in vietnam?
>>52208337
This
>>52211668
Yes.
>>52211701
what do the NZ schools teach about vietnam war?
>>52211668
dude you are a fucking baby compared to me
>>52211709
We didn't do it actually, everything I know is from visiting Vietnam
>>52211752
>We didn't do it actually,
wow, anglos are really butthurt over vietnam
>>52211721
uwot
>>52211786
Not really, it wasn't significant for us. We do acknowledge that it was in large a failure. We only deployed around 500 troops if I remember correctly. Until recently NZ relations with the US were kind of strained
>>52207591
We won but the Jewish controlled media covered it up to boost morale of the communist movement here in the States.
Think about it. If we lost the war, why isn't North Vietnam like North Korea?
>>52211869
t. /pol/
>>52211869
please just shut the fuck up
>>52211786
you are my hamburger meat
>>52211826
if you went to vietnam, plz tell me more about saigon, do they still feeling butthurt toward americans?
>>52207591
Because it is very unusual for a military superpower like the USA to lose a war due to vitamin shortages. The jungle chingchongs were better nourished by their vitamins and had no trouble pushing back the Americans.
>>52211955
lol i bet he went around asking everyone that question
>>52211990
well he is whitey...probably the people in vietnam would see him with hate or something man
>>52211955
Probably idk. I didn't get any yelling "Yankee go home!" which I was expecting, and none of the communist propaganda depicted any anti-American stuff
>>52211990
I asked a few tour guides actually. It really didn't go any further than being pissed off about some historical sites being bombed.
>winning war
>literally roasting gooks every goddamn day
>all is well
>suddenly the media comes in and starts filming
>"OY VEY DESE YOUNG KIDS ARE FIGHTING ITS ANUDDAH SHOAH"
>kultimulti 60s revolution in America coupled with Richard 'the Cuck' Nixon fucking everything up
>suddenly the people parrot the same shit the jews in media are reporting
>war loses congressional support and military is recalled before any decisive blows are made on the NVA
Such is life in democracy. I will not lie, it was a war that the American military had a stake in and our stake eventually lost out. But it is a loss that is far more due to political reasons on our own end than anything military.
>>52212026
you are that disgusting kind of dumbass
>>52211907
>burgerkek getting this butthurt
>>52212285
maybe i wanted to let out some of my anger on you
>>52212195
That's some intense memery
>>52212216
That doesn't mean it's not true. The media had no qualms about putting up uncensored shit on a format that was coming into millions of American homes and being seen by millions of people. This also coincided with all of the shit coming out with the sexual revolution (which was very much indeed pioneered by the Frankfurt School). The 60s were a time of radical Leftism blossoming in an era that had fostered conditions for it to grow, and the death of support for the war was, rather than by logic and reason, fueled by emotion.
>Beat Great Britain for independence using attrition tactics
>lost to same tactics against third world shit hole 200 years later
Thank you based Allah.
>>52212371
k
>>52207591
yes we lost.
Up to 155,000 refugees fleeing the final NVA Spring Offensive were killed or abducted on the road to Tuy Hòa in 1975.[81] Sources have estimated that 165,000 South Vietnamese died in the re-education camps out of 1–2.5 million sent,[82][better source needed] while somewhere between 50,000 and 250,000 were executed.[83][84][85] Rummel estimates that slave labor in the "New Economic Zones" caused 50,000 deaths (out of a total 1 million deported).[83][84] According to the United Nations High Commission for Refugees, between 200,000 and 400,000 Vietnamese boat people died at sea,[86] although Rummel cites estimates ranging from 100,000 to 1,000,000.[84] Including Vietnam's foreign democide, Rummel estimates that a minimum of 400,000 and a maximum of slightly less than 2.5 million people died of political violence from 1975–87 at the hands of Hanoi.[84] In 1988, Vietnam suffered a famine that afflicted millions.[87]
enjoy your victory Vietnam.
you shouldn't have attacked vitnam anyway
>>52209007
we didn't lose Iraq liberals just made a fuss and had us withdraw.
>>52212424
>this butthurt
>>52207591
We achieved literally everything we wanted to achieve in Vietnam, you fucking retards are desperate to find a conflict we lost and cling to 'Nam because there's nothing else even close to resembling defeat.
>>52212445
this dumb fucking people
The. Amount. Of. American. Butthurt.
I can't take it, I literally can't...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZD4ezDbbu4
>>52212536
How many wars has Finland fucking won? Like two? And no don't go counting Attila's or Genghis' accomplishments as your own.
>>52212494
>vietnam
>iraq
>afganistan
syria next?
>>52212494
>We achieved literally everything we wanted to achieve in Vietnam
simply ebin ;D
>>52212513
good game. what it have to do with Iran?
>>52212577
ok play the tape through before going through the motions of shitting your brains out
>>52212582
>Vietnam
Like I said, we achieved all that we wanted there
>Iraq
Saddam's dead and his regime's finished
>Afghanistan
The Taliban is gone, and Bin Laden's dead.
>Syria
Another probable victory.
>>52212582
Iraq and Afghanistan were quite successful, we left Iraq to early and the entire country went to hell, Afghanistan is improving, the generally quality of life has greatly improved since 2001
>>52208261
Vietnamese here. You are talking out of your ass, kiwi. We love Americans.
>>52212603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hof4EESpe_k
>>52212669
south vietnamese faggot lol
>>52212577
-survived the novogrods
-be Sweden's elite cavalry during 30 years war
-repelled the Russians
-kicked out the Germans
>HURR DURR WHAT HAS FINLAND FUCKING DONE
>>52212743
>-repelled the Russians
and those finns are still butthurt over karelia
>>52207832
>Viet strength as 461,000
>Viet casualties 444,000-1,100,000
worst case scenario 377,303 military US side
best case scenario 445,130 military Viet side
We certainly can't boast, but if we lost I guess that means Germany BTFO of the Soviet Union in WWII.
>>52207591
Because Mr. Nixon changed the position (quite rightly) from ground forces to support for the South.
They merely reverted to the role of peacekeeper, based upon Mr. Nixon's belief that inhabitants would resent ground forces.
He was right, as he so often was. He wasn't thanked, as he never was.
>>52212743
Five fucking things, and how long have fins been around? How many centuries and yet the US or even fucking Canada have accomplished more than you snowchinks ever have.
>>52212635
no you didnt, vietnam united under the commies, you were sent back home with a red ass, evacuating from housetops by helicopters
thats how desperate you became
iraq is the birthplace of IS, a nest of terrorism
you went there because MUH WAAAR ON TERROR, its still in terror, exporting terror on a daily basis
afganistan is the same, not only the taliban is still right there, but also hosting even more organisations
>americans in charge of doing anything right
>>52212669
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Remnants_Museum
>this museum opened on September 4, 1975, as the "Exhibition House for US and Puppet Crimes"
I never said that the average Vietnamese person despises America by the way
>>52212698
I'm from the North, Pedro. Just studying uni in the US.
>>52212827
After Vietnam, communism stopped spreading in South East Asia because we caused the Vietnamese to turn on China, the two reds were too busy fighting each other to spread their shit.
By the end of the Iraq war there was no terrorism in Iraq, but the leadership was so shit that they allowed it to rise again, nothing we could have done. Same goes for Afghanistan.
>>52212901
>After Vietnam
you got butthurt and you decided to support China, and cambodia
>>52212869
>>52212827
i came into light 1991
>>52212851
ye it's an old propaganda. The average Vietnamese don't visit museum. No one give a crap about the war anymore except for stuff like agent orange which is still affecting the some people.
>>52212931
But it still worked, didn't it? No Soviet Union anymore, is there.
You're fucking welcome.
>>52213014
mexico is cunt farting because usual cartel didnt come to tax his taco stand this week
>>52212767
The whole world went to war when neutral lelgium was attacked but did nothing to stop the soviets
""""""""good guys""""""
"""""""UN""""""""
>>52212801
quality>quantity
fuck off you have been fed from a silver spoon for your entire existence
>>52213112
this
he has put forth no effort in trying to tackle things in any manner other than pasta jerking
Everyone talking about napalm girl but well, at least she is alive, the kid in this video is not.
>>52213190
>mfw the US will never pay for his crimes in my lifetime
>>52213190
someone post the picture of the american laughing at the war crimes they committed but crying at 911
>>52213228
>>52212827
Communism is wholly different than holy wars. People have been fighting in the middle east for millennia. They're going to be fighting there long after you and I are dead. I agree it was dumb to go in there in the first place, but the balance would have eventually been upset with or without US intervention.
>>52207591
You're meming
Most Americans I've talked with acknowledge that they lost both Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.
>>52213228
what do you have in mind
>>52213190
>all that dead skin hanging off
>Y-YEAH WELL, YOU CAN BE COMMUNIST IF YOU WANT THEN, I DON'T CARE, I DID WHAT I WANTED TO BYE
>>52208568
Fuck off leftist degenerate
>>52213374
Sound like you were talking to the transgender gommies son.
>>52213460
Uwot pidorashka?
>>52213374
>Afghanistan and Iraq
It's difficult to win a war that doesn't have a clear strategy or goal
>>52213467
haha, yes yes
>>52213575
or any fucking forces at all
>>52207591
>why can't the americans admit that they lost vietnam?
Says the guy whose country still cannot admit that they lost the entire American Southwest a 150 years ago.
>>52213581
>>52213581
Relax lapdog. We were there as well. Danish politicians are so embarrased about it, that they're closing down investigations on the war.
They basically know it was the biggest foreign policy blunder since Denmark sided with Napoleon.
Consensus is that it's what happens when you join the US on any military mission.
>>52213640
Oops, meant >>52213575
>>52208393
>They completed their objectives and you didn't
Really?
I guess that's why Vietnam has that staunch communist government and economy nowadays, right Pedro?
Till this day, I still think America is governed by bunch of dumbass.
Ho Chi Minh was love American, a country that use to be a colony but fighting back and gain independent then become a superpower in the whole world.
He even helped America troops fight back Japan when they are still in Vietnam before the nuke.
But no, America chose the France over Vietnam and even when the France lost, America portray Vietnam as "big bad commie" then install Diem regime at the South Vietnam which was a shit regime.
All was because of some dumbass "advisor" that didn't know anythings about Vietnam. Fuck!
>>52213732
Had to support France bruh
Then had to support the ones that weren't filthy gommies
>>52213732
>trusting americans
>ever
>>52213732
we're friends now, that's all that matters really
>>52213815
on the outside maybe
but not really
at the drop of a dime
everyone is fucking manic
>>52213910
>>52207591
>ITT americans feeling proud for their crimes
>>52213954
haha
ok thats close enough friend
>>52213815
Yeah, sometimes I amazed by how my people could be so easy to forgive you guys.
I guess smiling is the only thing that Vietnamese could do best.
>>52214087
Well quite a few of your people came to this country because your people were killing a lot of your people and your people decided they wanted to leave. Thus your people experienced American culture and we got to experience your people's culture as well. Eventually because of this your people, your people and your people were able to bridge some conflicts, and because your people were now our people we got to be there when your people and your people met again.
>>52214196
>Muh evil goomunists :DDDDD
>>52214311
>mfw what I said is what happened but the meme is so supreme that you let out a meme to make the kiddos scream
>>52214364
You are just mememing
>>52214408
You know nothing Jon Snow.
>>52207832
Even the French didn't get rekt that hard
>>52209161
>but Afghanistan is arguably improved.
>>52214497
You tried to install dictatorship there, just like you did it in south american countries
>>52214696
You really are stupid.
>>52209161
>but Afghanistan is arguably improved.
>>52214712
all those fucking yous
you made it align it all happen
boom like fucking THAT
lined the deck dude for bad times
wtf were you thinking you monster
>pls potty train me
Random webm that I hadn't got a chance to post, It really hurt to see my countryman killing each other.
In Vietnam, even if you commit a grave sin, you always to be feed till satisfied.
Because dead mean the end, bad one go to hell and receive the punishment for the sin they commit, good one be reborn at a new life.
If you die but still hungry, you will become a hungry ghost that won't able to do anything above, keep wander in the realm of normal lives, would never be move on.
So in the webm I posted, South soldier was fed some Vietcong a cake, will they kill those guys or it's just a sympathy act?
Vietnamese have a motto: "Even the thunders strike evaded when you are eating"
>>52214871
I was just thinking that same thing.
>>52214718
>less Afghanis there
He's right you know.
>>52214890
Americans would be totally un-aware of this coustom
My guess is the dude saw his ribcage and thought, "fuck, he looks hungry"
People can be nice on all sides of war, and people can also get carried away
Its part of the great and horrible tragedy that is war.
>>52215014
>coustom
fug meant custom
>>52214890
Were most soldiers fighting for the North actually commies or were they just Vietnamese nationalists?
>>52214958
>more afganis in UK and Germany
yes its much better indeed
>>52215072
Vietnamese nationalists, I can guarantee it!
If you see your love one being died, raped,... Of course, you will at least try to do something, right? Or would you prefer to sit tight and do nothing.
>>52207832
>America, Australia and New Zealand lost Vietnam.
>British won in Malaysia
Why are we so good at war?
>>52208638
Didn't America completely pussy out firing their guns after running away from the Vietnam war?
>>52217757
kek
>>52208959
>>52207707
That's typical for democracy
They're all about "ain't me"
>>52209245
WE WITHDREW!!!!
YOURE NEVAR TOO OLD TO HAVE A VIETNAM FLASHBACK
we shouldn't help vietnam
You know what's really weird is seeing Super Password, The Lone Ranger, Un nuevo dia, and VieTV broadcasting over the air. I think maybe we infected each other with our cultures.
>>52218537
What the deals with China? Why can't you guys accepting Vietnam as an indepentdent country and not a vassal of China? 1000 year with you was enough!
>>52207591
They didn't
The US went in with the intention of leaving when they wanted to
In 1973 the North signed a promise of peace and the US left Vietnam completely
2 years later the North attacked again anyways because they're lying, treacherous gooks and the South collapsed
>>52207591
well,there's no way you can win a guerrilla
are the Vietnamese people now for socialism or against
>>52208959
>They didn't retreat, they withdrew
the US lost militarily and then won economically. most of the cheap toys of the 90s were Made in Vietnam before everything started saying Made in China.
