>the only candidate worth a shit won't win because he doesn't spout enough dank memes
how would you like your country senpai?
hillary for 2016
This was the first debate I watched. He did alright, but I don't know too much about him yet. If god forbid Trump doesn't win the nomination I would vote for this guy. Basically anyone up there would still be a good choice outside of Bush and the woman, aka "I beat breast cancer and buried a child, so I can lead a country." WTF was she thinking with that opening? Lost my potential vote immediately.
>>52207948
She was obviously trying to get the female vote, and you're not a female.
>>52207995
Yeah she made no bones about that when she said "ask a man how to lead and a woman will show you" or whatever nonsense the quote was. Literally "vote for me because I have tits"
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/676953819088084994
topkek
>Trump rekt Yeb again
>establishment shills like Rubio and Cruz not attacking Trump
LEL
He wasn't interested enough to make memes out of
TIER 1:
Rand Paul
Bernie Sanders
Tier 2:
O'Mally
Marco Rubio
POWER GAP
Tier 3:
Donald Trump
Jeb Bush
Tier 4:
Ted Cruz
POWER GAP
Tier 5:
Ben Carson
Hillary Clinton
Ann Coulter
>>52208076
That's such a weird observation to make. God forbid somebody remembers from school that in formal writing/speaking, you're not supposed to use contractions.
>>52208284
and I told that teachin lady the only letters I need to know are USA.png
>>52208244
Bernie Sanders would destroy the economy
>FREE!
>>52208244
t. Infowars, Russia Today, Alternative media, Alternet reader, globalresearch reader
>>52206965
>be america
>had the opportunity to elect _TWO_ Pauls
>pick the worst conceivable candidate instead
>HURR DURR CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP
>HURRR DURR IF I DELETE MAILZ NO ONE WILL FIND OUT
Get your shit together.
>>52208441
>Sweden
>Telling anyone to get there shit together
TOP
>>52206965
>he is even considering voting for anyone else but Trump
Do you hate your country that much or do you want to make Yuropoors like you?
>>52208441
>says sweden
>>52208484
>role playing as your country
>>52208429
how exactly will he destroy the economy
>inb4 18 trillion meme
i've dissected this argument before and i will do it again
>>52208076
>sounds like a russian spy
Is she for real?
>>52208526
Do it then, gaylord
I actually liked Jeb tonight, he was two steps ahead in the game of policy
>>52208509
>Pointing out hypocrisies is role playing
JUST
>>52208569
what was up with that closing statement?
That's the one thing you should fucking nail since you can practice it
>>52208648
He's fucking Jeb, he was like too as governor
>>52208507
No, says me: an individual that just happen to have been born in sweden and that have literally nothing to do with its politics.
>>52208441
>>52208682
right, but he's not trying to be governor anymore, the stakes are a bit higher.
>>52208683
>and that have literally nothing to do with its politics.
that's quite obvious lel
>>52208648
He's a bumbling idiot. It seems to run in the family. His pathetic attempt to take on Trump tonight backfired on him hard. Trump gave Jeb a dose of reality reminding him that he's at 3% while Trump is 42%. If his last name wasn't Bush he would've been put in the kiddie debate with Graham and the rest.
>>52208590
not every citizen of a country holds the same opinions as the government
>>52208560
:^)
i will give short version since u r short in bed :^)
the stat that bernie sanders would cost america 18 trillion dollars over 10 years through his programs was cited by WSJ in their famous article
this stat is actually true, government expenditure pioneered by sanders would be about 18 trillion in total, what they forgot to mention is how much net it would save
so ill start off on the largest part of the stat; 15 trill is from Bernie's universal healthcare. As of now we spend anywhere from 3.2-3.7 trill per year on health care combined from private and public sector. It is predicted to reach an average of 4 trill per year over 10 years. Under Bernies plan all private sector health care spending would be deleted and 1.5 trill would be added to the 2 trill spent in the public sector per year, netting 3.5 trill per year. This is a saving of 5 trillion of 10 years, or 500 billion a year. Even Gerald Friedman, the man who analyzed universal health care costs and made the statistic has said WSJ misused his stat in a misleading way.
the remaining 3 trill of bernies plan is for education, infrastructure, and job creation; all things that make us money in the long run. not to mention if 3 trill from the 5 trill bernie saved was devoted to these plans they would be completely payed off, leaving us with a leftover 2 trill, enough to pay off an entire 4 years of government deficit or the Iraq war.
so bernies plan quite literally pays for itself, makes money in the long term, insures every american (we are at about 88% or so now), makes public college tuition free, and overhauls our infrastructure
>>52208821
You do realize the primaries don't even grab 95% of Republican voters right? If you're polling quasi 40% for only 5% of registered Republican voters you're gonna have a bad time.
>>52208749
What can I say, it's Jeb, his only selling point is that he actually talked policy instead of memes
>>52208894
You can literally see how these things turned out in Europe yet you choose to ignore that. Why?
>>52208894
>socialists trying to do economy
>>52209029
our current health care system has incredibly inflated costs and doesn't even cover 90% of the population, it is much worse then any major European countries
universal health care would actually save america money, due to it cutting corporate costs that plague us. we also wouldn't have nearly as bad of wait times as a place like France due to our high health care worker population per capita
universal would work very well in america; we have the money and the medical resources unlike many european countries
honestly though i don't even think universal is the best system for america, personally i would prefer a system similar to germany where a basic plan is mandated at a certain price and then companies make their profits through optional add ons
>>52209102
>o i cant disprove a single point
>i know le cry smile face
>haha fukn libtards
>>52209102
But Sven, didn't socialism work in your country for decades?
>>52209150
none of that accomplishes anything if medical malpractice lawsuits aren't controlled.
That said, our system works well if you're rich and aren't going to a shit hospital in a shit area. The expenses are the things that need to be reined in though, they're out of control
>>52209218
lol medical malpractice wot?
are you trying to say that people would sue the government directly or that the government wouldn't properly protect surgeons from lawsuits? be less vague i don't even know what your first half is saying
i can agree with the second half, personally i believed the prices need to be controlled through a system that features a basic plan that all companies must provide at a certain price, as mandated by the government
>>52209298
>lol medical malpractice wot?
So you don't know what you're talking about.
Ok then, nevermind.
>>52209179
You haven't done any proving yourself, just posted a theoretical plan which assumes things will go smothly with no states objecting and so on. Furthermore as some one already pointed out it isn't working very well in Europe nor is it in Canada (chances of surviving cancer etc).
You're right the current system sucks. But why you think a socialist system would be the only solution is beyond me. What you have today or even before Obama care is not capitalism.
Besides socialism has been disproved countless times. There are plenty of authors that are much better at explaing why that is. Just watch "free to choose" for some very easily digestible econ101 (or read "economy in one lesson" if you got the time).
>>52209194
It worked in spite of socialism, not due to it.
>>52209150
>we have the money
>we have the resources
That's what France, Germany and everyone else used to tell themselves too. Universal healthcare is a demographic timebomb.
>>52206965
Unfortunately people will just vote trump because he's a meme candidate.
>>52209405
>we didn't have True Capitalism™
I'm not even him, but libertarians need to stop with this ridiculousness. You sound like communists going on about how True Communism™ has never been tried...
>>52209333
m8 did you read the rest of my message?
i was asking in what way you were referring to medical mal practice, you made no distinction on what way it would worsen through a universal system. don't condescend because you can't specify what you are talking about f a m
>>52208076
>this is your average trump supporter
>>52209405
i posted a theoretical plan that has been accepted by congress as legitimate (it is used whenever they talk of universal health care and its costs) and cited by multiple publishers
the current system does suck and i do not think a socialist system is the only way, rather the most feasible at the moment.
socialism is and idea, you don't "disprove it". either way i don't agree with it, i adopt certain aspects and use them and believe they should be used to modify our current form of capitalism. pls don't try to socialism strawman me
>>52209413
we have more money and more medical resources, not to mention france's and germany's health care system function better than our own
>>52209480
Capitalism, unlike communism, is well defined. There's very little wiggle room. So the analogy doesn't work.
Besides, the reason every single communist state has failed is not because it's not "true communism", it's because their economic model literally is unsustainable (the calculation problem).
>>52206965
>jebs phone book
>>52209603
>capitalism is well defined
Which is why people argue about it so much... Just admit the libertarian form of capitalism is only one type and you don't have a monopoly of the definition.
>>52206982
Kill yourself.
>>52209635
just because you eat at their dinners
>>52209545
>congress
You mean the people that have sustained your current shitty system for like what? 40 years?
>publishers
Who? Slate magazine? The worker daily?
>>52208244
Tier 1:
Rand Paul
Donald Trump
Tier 2:
Rest of GOP
Tier 3:
Cuck and CuckQueen
>>52209635
desu libertarian capitalism is true capitalism
free market no regulations, do whatevs u fuckn want market will regulate itself
other capitalist styles are hybrids, like what we have now
>>52209717
yea they are those people, which just goes to show how legit the model is
like WSJ for instance
>>52209725
its like a 50 piece exodia
>>52208683
You do - everything is political.
Anyway, I wish Trump well, but I will be happy to see any Republican President run America desu senpai.
>>52209785
No, it being cited in a newspaper have very little to do with it working or not. Furthermore I don't believe it's going to be end of America having universal health care. I think the plan is overly optimistic in both its economic calculations and in the actual outcome. L
So while it's not impossible that it would improve the situation, having universal health care means that you've essentially locked yourself to it for the foreseeable future and as I pointed out: it doesn't work very well where it's already implemented. Not only that but implementing it would be a VERY complicated task (just look at Obama care). Just deregulating the market is much easier.
>>52209944
the point of it being cited in newspapers and being used by congress is that it shows that the people who actively work against universal health care even agree that the model is pretty credible, at least credible enough to use in their articles in speeches.
bro i completely agree in deregulating most of the health care market. i also agree obama care is a fucking mess but obama care is isn't universal healthcare, it's just an expansion of the system we had. it probably would have worked better if more states accepted it but we'll never know. anyways i still hold that the market should be mostly deregulated but companies should still be required to provide a minimum health care plan that covers all the essentials and that the plan be government mandated to be bare bones in cost, so no corporate inflation. all company profits would come from add ons and other features that the richer people would go for
desu going 2 bed now; argument is being ditched </3
until we meet again fascist swede pig
>>52209725
But what we have is close enough to True Capitalism™ that outright denying we have a capitalist system is just wrong. Our economy is way closer to capitalism than any other system, which is what it seemed like the Swede was implying the opposite of.
>>52208894
>Spending will save money
>>52209671
You beat me to it.
Canada greatest ally
>randlet
>an acceptable candidate
'LMAO JUST TURN EVERYTHING STRAIGHT BACK TO YELLOW THAT'LL FIX EVERYTHING!'
Sanders and Paul are both fucking morons. America needs a fix of it's economy and culture, a legitimate, actual fixing, not their retarded bullshit.
>>52206965
Just watched him and all he can do is twist Trump's words around saying he wants to abolish the first amendment and close the internet. That's not what he said at all. Trump's asking for specific sites like Facebook to block users from known terrorist zones so they can't spread their propaganda and recruit more people. The fact that is NOT already being done is mind boggling.
>>52208894
>>52209150
>>52209298
Wow, you're fucking retarded.
This is the average sanders voter, everyone. Look close.
>>52210543
The Bernie fans at my college literally don't understand the nomination process
half of them were ready to party in the streets when they heard the 'trump is disqualified' shit last week
>>52210518
Which will require legislation that totally won't be abused.
>>52210627
You don't need legislation. You can twist Facebook's arm to get them to do it themselves. Impose penalties and whatnot. Let Trump worry about the economics of it, he's the businessman, not me. But there is no conceivable reason American companies and websites should be accessible to terrorists so they can spread their message on our media.
>>52210666
This. People always react to the way Trump says things and then ignore the actual message. They just extrapolate from the way that he made them feel and completely ignore the actual arguments he's presenting.
If you never address someone's argument you sure as shit won't be able to beat it. Viva la Trump.
>>52210737
Viva la Trump!
>>52210666
Then they'd just go somewhere else. You literally cannot stop them from spreading their propaganda without closing the Internet. The solution to this problem is to not make enemies in the first place. I.e. Stop meddling with the middle east and destabilising countries you don't like. Taking a reactionary stance to it is not only horribly inefficient, expensive and needlessly intrusive, it doesn't even resolve the cause of the problem. Going to Syria and "putting and end" to IS will inevitably end up doing the exact opposite and we'll be in the same situation we are in today 10-20 years from now.
>US health care system costs over twice the amount, per person, as the OECD average
>All those countries with universal coverage are cheaper
>Americans unironically think universal healthcare is bad and will bankrupt their country
wew lads
>>52210737
>the actual message
Care to elaborate on his policies? I'm genuinely quite oblivious to what he wants to do
>>52210846
Consider the income disparity in the US compared to countries that have implemented universal healthcare. We have a lot of people who cost the healthcare system a lot and don't pay much if anything into it.
>>52210836
I agree, Bush 1 shouldn't have fucked around in Kuwait, Bush 2 shouldn't have fucked around in Afghanistan, and Obama shouldn't have fucked around in Syria and wherever else. But that's the situation we're in now. If we can drive them off Facebook there aren't many other major social media sites out there. Myspace is long dead and Twitter won't work. They'll be restricted to some arabian fly-by-night service that is a lot smaller and easier to monitor. But for as big as Facebook is it's too enormous to monitor all the chatter and that's how red flags are slipping through the cracks.
>>52210885
Not like they're going to be able to get a job if they can't afford to fix their broken leg though?
>>52210950
Even if it was monitored it's a simple matter to encrypt messages. Life umm finds a way.
>>52210860
>Care to elaborate
Lazy fucking cunt
>>52211002
Yeah I am. Plus I'm pretty much multitasking right now.
>>52210860
Alright, I'll give a summary in greentexts
>he wants to lower corporate specific taxes and other things that are making companies outsource their labor from America
>he wants to increase our control of our borders because right now we have a lot of people coming into our country illegally, and the cartels and drugs come with them
>he wants to temporarily suspend immigration for Muslims, until we can sort out what the fuck is going on with ISIS and similar groups
>he wants to lower unemployment by getting the illegal immigrants out of the country so that Americans will have those jobs (people argue against this a lot, but the fact of the matter is the market will change whether they kick out the illegals or make them citizens, people won't work for the wages that illegals will in the industries where they're hired, and it's better to give those jobs to actual Americans)
There's plenty more, but that's the stuff that's really important to me. Also a lot of people support him because he doesn't take other people's money, meaning he's not going to give in to a different agenda.
>>52211051
Right. Thanks lad
>>52210989
You seem to have a misunderstanding of how the system in America works, even before Obamacare if someone can't afford treatment they still get the treatment. People don't get turned away because they don't have cash. What it means is that the cost gets absorbed into everything else, so everyone is paying for the people who can't afford it with or without universal healthcare. It's part of the reason why medical anything is so fucking expensive here.
>>52211001
If known terrorists start sending encrypted messages then I'd say it's time to start the jets.
>>52211086
Well then why the fuck would anyone be against the single payer system?
>>52211051
I like him because there's no bullshit. He speaks in the spur of the moment and speaks his mind. Every other candidate in the history of the country (hyperbole, but damn near all) are all so careful to not say the slightest unscripted thing that could offend a gnat and cost them a vote. With Trump you can tell he's honest and passionate about what he thinks.
>>52211123
People prefer to have a choice in their coverage. Right now we have a number of insurance companies that offer different plans, and people can choose the one that suits them best. Also some people get health insurance through their job. For lots of people a change to a single payer system means a lower quality of service, and they're willing and able to pay more to get more.
>>52210860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq4O1YehsyQ
There's his rally from Monday, probably his best one yet. It's long, but the guy's so entertaining it's fun to watch even if you're not into politics. There's another one tomorrow if you want to see it live. Excuse the pussy start-up music, the awesome Twisted Sister song had to be edited out for copyright bullshit.
>>52208076
>he must be a Russian spy
>All her other posts
>this is your typical Trump supporter
>there are people who legitimately support "DUDE WALL LMAO" the meme candidate
>Wanting a corporate CEO as head of your nation, effectively cutting out the middle man between corporate and government
>Not standing with Rand
It's a shame it'll likely be between Trump and Hillary.
>>52209194
It worked because everyone was white.
I'm pro-Sanders but if I were citizen of United States I wouldn't be. If you get what I mean.
>>52211943
We always elect career politicians. Now the world is heading to Hell in a handbasket. Reagan was an actor and a great president. Everyone thought that was silly at first but look how it turned out. I'm willing to give a businessman a try. He should be great in making deals with other countries.
>>52212102
I'm so happy there are nordics who actually understand that's why socialism worked
You need a society of homogenous, well-educated, well-trained people with low unemployment in order for socialism to even be an option at all
>>52206965
>not enjoying the holy Republican Trinity of Trump, Cruz, and Carson
>not enjoying them literally holding the GOP by the balls and bullying them with a clear threat of going independent if the GOP pulls fishy shit
>>52212139
Reagan comparison is plausible though Reagan was more universally loved. I just think Trump is trying too hard to be a meme.
>>52212141
I wouldn't even call Nordic countries very socialist
They have way freer economies than America desu
>>52212183
>Carson
Yuckers.
>>52212224
Please
He's a respectable low energy man if anything Washington needs more people like him even if he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time
Why do you think be polls so well? His image is very nice
>>52212222
That's true in many ways, but they also have very high taxes that are used a lot better than American taxes (usually, not so much now that they're swamped with """""""""""""""""refugees"""""""""""""""""""")
If you tried to do the same kind of welfare in America that's taken for granted in Nordic countries it would be a disaster, for the very same reasons that it's turning into a disaster into Sweden now that they're full of their Syrian "Swedes"
>>52212222
Well it's what Bernie means when he talks about his dream America. I think it's good he's questioning the system and he's seems wise. But he has never lived here and he doesn't get why exactly our society works the way it does. The more there is cultural diversity the less this kind of system works.
>>52212275
>Even if he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time
See, that's the bit I can't get past. His image is fine, but he's not qualified to be president, and he doesn't seem like he's trying very hard to educate himself on policy.
>>52212275
i would rather see him up next to the peace period flag
>>52212286
True
He honestly comes off as naive college student (which makes up a huge portion of his voter base)
It doesn't matter anyway
He already lost the primary
Hillary has a 45:1 superdelegate ratio over him
At most he may get a VP spot maybe
>>52212299
Duh he's not gonna be president
The Trinity is positioning for a Trump presidency
Most likely with Cruz as the VP and Carson as... Something
They've just unofficially combined forces (well not so unofficial between Cruz and Trump after this last debate)
>>52212339
Hillary is still worse
>>52212383
>and Carson as... Something
Well he was a doctor so he can be in charge of healthcare I guess.
>>52212395
Meh
Just always remind Bernie supporters of that superdelegate fact
It really just takes the wind out of their sails :3
>>52212452
I don't know, Hillary seems to be losing trust but she should have done so several times already, people just have short memory span
>>52212506
She doesn't need the full support of Democrats to win the primary
She's already starting with a 15% advantage over everyone
That's why Bernie has already lost he needs a super majority just to have a chance (and that's assuming it's just Hillary vs Bernie)
>>52212570
I guess it's Douche VS Turd then
>>52212506
Yeah, a lot of people don't trust her, but I don't know if that will stop them from voting for her.
I actually had one of my coworkers tell me about how even though they wanted Sanders they were going to vote for Shillary because "at least she's not a republican". She went on to talk about how Hillary is experienced and knows what she's doing in terms of foreign policy. Nevermind her fucking disastrous job in the middle east.
>>52212627
She might as well moderate Republican when you listen to her, people are so easily deceived by those labels
>>52212626
It's more like douche vs god Emperor of America who will usher in the age of the American empire
The meme magic demands it
>>52212627
>knows what she's doing in terms of foreign policy
What exactly is she doing that he's so proud of? Where do these people even come from? Jesus just turn on the news, the world is nearly fucked. 4-8 more years of the same shit will damn us all.
>>52212715
>where do these people even come from?
They listen to main stream media unironically and without thinking critically
Trumps whole campaign is literally circled around that and people still just listen to the media without thinking
It's fucking hilarious
>>52212661
I just think it's amazing that the anti-war lefties want Clinton when she's gotten us mixed up in all kinds of shit and started wars in multiple countries without even being president.
>>52212715
No fucking idea, man. I swear these people hear somebody else say shit like that and just parrot it without looking into it at all. These people thought Bush was bad, then Obama comes in and does the same shit but does shit with buzzfeed so they love him, and now they'll vote Clinton for even more of the same.
>>52212668
I would like USA to be the meme USA like it was in the 80's, Trump's meme is a bit too extreme
>>52212800
It's honestly amazing the way that Trump abuses the way the media works to get publicity. As much as people like to talk shit about him, if he can decide the course of discussion across the country right now then he clearly is smarter than they give him credit for.
>>52212863
Trump's meme isn't even that ridiculous though, it's just his presentation that makes it come off as crazy. His ideas are actually really good.
I'm really worried for the future of the country. Hillary is a definite threat, but even moreso because >muh first woman prez mindset that some people are still clinging to. That alone will get her a few bonus percentages. I'm scared guys.
>>52212908
This desu
It's classic door to the face shit
That's literally what he explains quite clearly in the art of the deal
You sound extreme so that the compromise you eventually will come to with your opposition is exactly what you want
He's literally written a book on this and people still don't see what he's doing
>>52212908
I just don't think he will be elected if he's like this. Reagan era was more "fuck yeah America" which united people.
>>52212985
it's pretty much what they do on Pawn Stars too
>>52212932
Me too, anon. Obama got in because he was black, I'm terrified of what could happen if people vote for Hillary because she's a woman.
One thing is certain, if we get more of the same shit we've had, and especially if we start to see federal implementation of the social policies we've been seeing in colleges and Europe (kek) then people are going to get very reactionary and America is going to be further right than ever before.
>>52210240
yes, that's how economics works
>>52213018
I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts to tone things down once he gets nominated. And let's face it, if he doesn't get the nomination then the GOP isn't winning. He has them by the balls and they put them in his hands. It's beautiful.
>>52208076
>being this dumb
Is Ann Coulter living satire? "Can not" or "cannot" and "will not" are incredibly stronger than any contraction.
>>52213032
Well if Hillary fucks it all up it'll be a Trump landslide in 2020, but I really don't know if we'll last that long.
The one good thing I am counting on is college age voters are usually dems and they tend to have the worst voter turnout. You can almost always count on the 70 year old Republicans to vote, so hopefully that holds true this time too.
>>52213032
>I'm terrified of what could happen if people vote for Hillary because she's a woman.
For starters, the saying "if women ruled the world there would be no wars" would once again be proven to be bullshit.
>>52213133
Too bad no one will remember it. Just like people already are forgetting (or purposely ignoring) how bad Obama was as the first black president.
who /hillary/ here? senpaitachi
Sanders or Trump fuck the rest. I want this election to be the biggest meme of my goddamn life. I want my kids to be making memes about how buttblasted moderates and the opposing side is. The fire rises
>>52213101
>went to cornell undergrad
>went to university of michigan law school
yes, it is satire. she's basically insulting her fanbase without them even realizing it
>>52213197
Man I got autistic about that. Either way I'll enjoy one extremist against the other. Sanders after Obama would drive conservatives mad (he's Jewish too). And Trump would make liberals go crazy.
>>52212932
>tfw the world is too fragile and the U.S. is too powerful to elect even another mediocre president
>tfw because of all the political correctness garbage and Muslim extremists, it is becoming horribly easy to take away more freedoms
The American people need to become skeptics and learn about their history.
>>52213197
This desu desu senpai
I wish Bernie would run independent, and he and Trump didn't get the nominations because the whole election would be a clusterfuck
>>52213279
From what I've been reading he's at the same place where Obama was in 2007. No one saw that he would over take Hilary. T b h it would be pretty surprising if he and Trump both got it
>>52213262
I wish Americans, Europeans AND the genuinely moderate Muslims became like in Cold War and chose their side. It's obvious Islam is now in the similar position as communism was back then. Can't view it just as religion when it's clearly economic, politic and ideological system. I'm ready to welcome Muslims who are ready to integrate to our society but it can't be done if they don't face the facts.
>>52213101
I watched videos of her being serious.
She wrote a shitload of books and librulz are assmad as fuck at her because they can only scream insults at her and talk aside of her points, while her points are absolutely valid.
It's satire, she also once posted something about "how many fucking jews [...]"
Online she's just fucking around. In shows and literature, she's brilliant.
>>52213422
Absolutely. The fact that so many "moderate" muslims know about radicals and don't say anything about it just shows that a lot of them aren't really moderate, or at least aren't responsible enough to be part of Western civilization.
>>52213422
Muslims don't possess thousands of nukes. they're an annoyance when compared to the USSR
>>52213422
RACIST BIGOT OPPRESSOR YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS ABOUT THEIR VIBRANT CULTURE
>>52213260
>not wanting to watch the orc-esque horde of brainbow-colored feminist whales, fat blokes who candu nuffin, niggers who dindu nuffin, faggots, "moderate" arabs that feel insulted when you ask them to integrate go mad, and little skeletor manlet hipsters from college
Look, here's the plan:
Hitler initiated an attack, so people assumed he was going for them too.
We just gotta wait. Beat them politically. They're all childminded, it won't take long for the majority of them to get violent.
Political civil war ensues, with moderates siding with the guys who merely want to protect themselves and have peace.
Degeneracy will be wiped out, anyone wanting to promote socialism will be declared socialist propagandists who want to wreak havoc in the country, those people are coincidentally mostly jews, as we know, and then, we can rebuild society.
Jews have been hunted all the time in history and it's gonna happen again because those fucks just can't stop tearing societies apart.
>>52213600
>people seriously think SJWs would die for their ideals
>>52213658
Look at SJWs
They're basically a new race, a half artificial one
Colored hair, tons of fucked up body decoration, either skeletons or landwhales... They're clearly seperatable from any other faction in society, and you clearly can't say "yup, they belong to our kind".
They wouldn't be able to live in a society that is con-socialism. They'd be the next school shooters.
>>52213459
It's Stockholm syndrome. I just read article about Muslim girls who feel "oppressed" here because people "look at them weird way" when they wear hijabs etc. They don't seem to get it's not that people want to control their freedom to believe in whatever they do, it's that in Western society it's viewed as a symbol of oppression and people don't want that kind of culture to be promoted. Why the fuck would you stand up for something you escaped in the first place.
>>52213753
And they'll be the first to give up when they'll finally receive the slap their father never gave them
>>52213753
It's painfully obvious you don't interact with people much. All sorts of otherwise normal people can hold SJW opinions.
>libertarians
>>52213600
super hot fire
>>52213422
>It's obvious Islam is now in the similar position as communism was back then.
Do you really think so? Surely Islam will persist regardless of what happens. I think Islam has to be brought to some kind of moderate position globally, or the most extreme strains of Islam have to be contained while Muslims who are not extremists are made more and more secular. It must be determined whether or not Islam is a great force or simply a religion whose followers sometimes completely lose it in the worst ways possible and therefore can be combated in more subtle ways. There are normal Muslims; they don't drink blood, they don't take their faith seriously, and they relish in Western values. That must be important to observe at this time.
>>52213883
>I think Islam has to be brought to some kind of moderate position globally,
Islam cannot be reformed you uninformed retard. The Quran is God's word, it cannot be altered and any attempt at such is considered heretical.
There are no "muslim extremists," there are muslims.
>>52213883
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right...
>>52213928
Ask young white Christian college students on whether collateral damage (i.e. killing brown people at weddings and funerals) is justified to achieve America's foreign policy objectives and you would get similar answers.
You are genuinely deluded to think Muslims are on some sort of moral "lower ground" .
>>52213983
>insult islam
>british poster shows up
inb4 dutch and french muslims
>>52214017
I see the Jews have taught you well. Keep stripping away your constitutional rights and propping up foreign dictators to ensure your "security" , my friend.
>>52214055
>mentions jews out of nowhere
why are muslims so retarded
>>52213883
>It must be determined whether or not Islam is a great force or simply a religion whose followers sometimes completely lose it in the worst ways possible and therefore can be combated in more subtle ways.
It is already determined, the fact this world has kingdom like Saudi Arabia that uses it as their political and educational system proves that. The Kurdish "moderate muslims" are basically atheists at this point. It's also most intolerant ideology as their ideology has such extreme in-fighting. There is possibility only Wahhabis/Salafism could be labeled like this, and that's why Muslims need to start questioning things instead just complaining.
Communism was atheistic, so it can't be labeled exactly as same but both of them are man-made ideologies.
>>52213943
>>52213928
Is there really a kind of cold war occurring between Muslims and non-Muslims? Those in the West, Americans especially, must make use of their rights--including abusing them--when possible. However, I cannot imagine people in the West should watch every person they know just in case one of them has even the slightest ties to a particular religion. Let's not threaten the freedom of others because our freedom is threatened.
>>52214113
You can't alter Islam without it being heretical, Islam cannot be reformed.
There is no way to get rid of the "muslim extremists" because of this.
neat
>>52213804
I included moderates in my statement.
You don't classify as an SJW just for saying you should tax the rich or not be a racist cunt.
There exists a moderate left and this is included in the people called "moderates".
>american understanding
>>52213983
Because we don't suck their system, empty
Better ask a christian missionary in the middle of the east, he'll tell you that, fuck no, it's not okay.
But you can't ask him because the "moderates" have already dragged/ratted him out to an "extremist" to be beheaded.
>>52214170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl60yuTJXZg
>>52214184
I wasn't referring to moderates either. People can dress normal and bold down a job while also having SJW opinions.
>>52214113
The essential question seems to be: How close are moderate Muslims to the most extreme Muslims? Also, are the most extreme Muslims able to bring moderates to serve them? Are the most moderate Muslims attacking people in the West for Western values? Let's put action next to action. We must preserve a free society, and opposition to that goal is wrong.
>>52209725
>market will regulate itself
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?
>>52214616
why, nothing of course
ignore the unregulated supplement market in USA that lobbied for FDA restrictions to be removed and has absolutely zero quality control for what is in the contents or any responsibility on labeling
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117953
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1695147/
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/dietary-supplements-lead-to-20000-e-r-visits-yearly-study-finds/?_r=0
https://www.schmidtandclark.com/supplement-retailer-steroid-spiking
I can't even buy vitamins without being worried that I'm poisoning myself.
Thanks, libertarians.
>>52214123
It's not cold war in same sense that cold war was a battle between two superpowers, but I think it's very similar to communism. Communism was branded as the ideology of peace and tolerance by some people as well, but it also promotes the idea that there must be a violent revolution to go there since the only way to reach the absolute peace is to destroy every single capitalist society. There was pro-commies in West who ignored these violent texts of Marx and were absolutely sure communism would be a positive thing. They had communist student organizations and when in the 70's the violent acts of commies started coming out they labeled them as "singular mistakes that can't stereotype entire idea of communism". The most radical ones even started violent riots and these were supported by communist states too. Some politics talked about communism in positive way and saw it as something we all could learn from. In every generation there will be that weird group like hippies who have no touch with reality.
>>52214736
>In every generation there will be that weird group like hippies who have no touch with reality.
Exactly. Justice and truth must be pursued regardless of fads or essentially any kind of opposition.
>>52211204
M80 every country is like that. There's a two tiered system:
Public health - covered by the gov, long waiting times, average service
Private health - covered by private insurance, low wait, high quality service.
Most middle class and up people will have private cover.
>>52206965
>anti vax
>climate change denier
>opposes net neutrality
are you retarded enough to vote for Rand?
>>52208429
>I'm a shill for the neo-classical school and don't understand that economics isn't an exact science
