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So is anyone going to confront China on the issue of the South
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Theyre pretty much illegally claiming the most valuable piece of sea real estate in the world, with 40 percent of world trade going through the South China Sea every year. Theyre also building bases and islands dubai style to stake their claim on these waters. Philiphines, Japan, South Korea....basically every major asian power claims those territories. If China are successful, would this be a Crimea moment, were the west is shown to be weak once again, a sign that western hegemomy has ended and China could pretty much bully US allies in Asia into submission.
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Why won't Australia do it? It's right at your doorstep.
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>>52178063
cuz we are wusses with a beta population
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Guess who's back.
Back again.

http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-british-are-coming-back/

See you soon, chaps
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>>52178063
and China has made us rich. Why would we want to bite the hand that feeds us
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>>52178604
First try to wean urself of German influences and try reinvigorate your middleclasses before you start making bold claims of empire rebirth.
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>>52179082
>First try to wean urself of German influences
Wut

>try reinvigorate your middleclasses
Wut

What do you mean by this

>before you start making bold claims of empire rebirth.
I made no such thing, the Empire isn't coming back, but we are. By the way, that article I linked is Australian not British.
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>>52179285

http://www.globalresearch.ca/britains-neoliberal-farce-the-working-poor-the-massacre-of-the-middle-class/5473189
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>>52179285
And I dont trust right leaning Australian publications, theyre known for dickriding britain like no tommorow.
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>>52179479
What kind of website is this? Have you seen some of that author's other articles and the language he uses?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/graham-vanbergen

Holy shit he hates us

>>52179554
Why do you think ASPI is right leaning? It's pretty well respect. Did you try reading it - everything in that article is fact.
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>>52179479
>>52179681
No wonder he hates us, he is pro-Corbyn as fuck. In another article he says Corbyn is right about scrapping Britain's nuclear weapons. In another article he says the British Establishment is using mind-control on people. Look at this shit

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-jeremy-corbyn-is-right-about-trident/5479122
http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-britains-propaganda-machine-controls-what-you-think/5477648

This is is why I love /int/, some of you come up with the most crazy and stupid stuff
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>>52177892
They want that much? Isn't that a bit greedy
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>>52180148
China essentially wants to creates its first "foreignz" military bases on some of the most important and strategic locations in Asia and the SCS is prime location for that endevour. Theyre empire building, tryna catch up ,to the US I guess.
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>letting yourself get cucked by the Chinese
haha
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>is anyone going to confront China

Brunei doesn't care and prefers Chinese Yuan
Indonesia doesn't care because all they have are tiny atolls
Malaysia doesn't care and prefers Chinese Yuan
Taiwan cares but considering their geographic position they're powerless to enforce their claims (people don't know that China's claims came from RoC)
Vietnam cares but their leadership wants Chinese Yuan
Philippine cares but our military is a non-entity, we're like Ukraine who lost Crimea
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>>52177892
>So is anyone going to confront China on the issue of the South China Sea?
No.
The US will send a ship through their property from time to time though, like they did a few months ago. All in corporation with the Chinese of course.

The US president can then pretend to beat the evil Chinese and the Chinese chair man can rally the people and party against the evil USA. Both sides profit and they do it again in three months. And Vietnamese or Malaysian ships will still stay clear of the sea because its de facto Chinese territory but that news wont be published in the west.
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>>52177892
Japan has no claim on South China Sea.
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>>52177892
Notice all those other lines that claim a bunch of shit?

Yeah that's the reason we aren't doing much.

Also
>most valuable real estate on the planet
>a bunch of reefs and sandbars

Nah.
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>>52178063
Australia has started to engage in Asia in a more proactive manner. China is a key trade partner, but Australia has already expanded their ties with India with naval exercises.

>>52177892
>and China could pretty much bully US allies
The countries in contact with China have invested heavily in submarine build ups. If the U.S. ever lets China gain control (which they won't, the U.S. continuously sends warships through claimed Chinese waters as a show of resolve), the US allies will strangle China's grasp on the sealanes a la U-Boats in ww2.
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>>52185746
>Also
>>most valuable real estate on the planet
>>a bunch of reefs and sandbars

>oil-rich
>like $5 trillion in trade passes through it every year
>the key to Japan, China, and Korea's oil imports.
>unimportant

Please leave.
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They can legally build on those reefs, they just can't in any way claim it as their territory. Artificial structures do not count as an extension of their territory. Those islands are in international waters so the sea and air around them are free to anyone.

The problem is they are claiming it and threatening anything that comes near with their navy.

>>52185746

American education at its finest
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>>52186314
>oil rich
LMAO
>5 trillion of trade
Passes by it right next to Vietnam. The trade does not get within 100 miles of the disputed islands because of reefs n shiet
>the keys to oil
As I already said the trade passes right by Vietnam, not the disputed islands.

These islands are important but they are not the most valuable sea real estate as OP said. Straits of Mallaca, Persian gulf, Suez/Panama canal, and the straits of Gibraltar are more valuable.
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>>52186526
They can claim it all they want. International waters can be claimed, but it's not recognized.

Threatening actions are illegal though. China has started to do that, but so have the other 6 claimants.

Your education on the issue is worse. >>52186585
Refute this fag.
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>>52186585

You realise they are building naval bases on them to project power and influence right? The islands won't be directly in the trade lanes but the ships docked at them certainly can be.
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>>52186585
>he trade does not get within 100 miles of the disputed islands because of reefs n shiet
It's not just the islands being disputed, it is the entire region. China has literally set up man-made islands with ports and runways to allow them to project power and secure that region.
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>>52186729

China is the only country that threatens civilian aircraft approaching near the islands.
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>>52177892
This claim shown on map is beyond retarded

what the fuck is up with the Chinese?
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>>52186729

They're also building one of their largest bases right near the coast of the Philippines. Not only that, but its the country's top tourist area.

They absolutely don't give a fuck and its because no one is telling them to stop other than those SEA countries
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>>52186768
So have Malaysia and the Phillipines.

Why else do you think we went through all 6 claimants "territorial waters" when we had our FONP back in Oct?

>>52186812
So have Malaysia and the Phillipines.

This sounds like a case of being a sore loser. If you can't build as fast as China then you go and bitch to the big boys.

We are keeping the peace until someone backs down. No more.
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>>52186826
Threaten civilian aircraft?

Proof please. As far as I know, they haven't declared a self-identification zone there.

>>52186826
The same claim as the ROC. The PRC actually took their claim from the ROC's original, and the ROC enforces their claim as well.

No one's the good guy.

Vietnam and Malaysia claim and own islands outside their territorial waters as well.
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>>52187049
Could I have some proof of this?

The Phillipines did the same shit as the Chinese on a smaller scale. Now the Flips are bitching at us to come protect them after they fucked with the Chinese at the Scarborough shoal.

We will protect them as long as they don't start shit. That's how alliances work.
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>>52187202

Flying close to Beijing's new South China Sea islands - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35031313

I agree that none of them should be claiming it, but that's irrelevant because regardless of claims China is the only country actively building islands and military stations on them.
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>>52187290

See >>52187360 and there's plenty of satellite photos online and in the news
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