Are there different ethnicities of "Italians" in Italy? Because I've noticed Italians don't all look homogeneous.
Oh boy here we go
>>52146976
There are about a dozen, split into three major linguistic groupings.
yes, le terroni are sandniggers mixed with ethiopians
GABAGOOL
>>52146976
From what I can tell as an outsider, no, they're all exactly the same.
>>52147132
OVA HEAH
Can we just stop with this homogeneous meme? There is no country on earth where everyone looks the same
>>52147135
Imo there's more of a difference between a Sicilian and a Piedmontese Italian than between a Scanian Swede and a Norseman from Finnmark.
PORCO DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>North Italians (further divisions Northwest -Venetians)
>Central Italians (Further divisions Tuscans-The rest)
>South Italians (further divisions Sicilians/calabrians -The rest)
>Sardinians
>>52147168
CARMELA
one is a literal sandnig, the other italian
can you tell who is who?
>>52147322
>Li3
we've got to rescue our kin and blood from the evil padanian overlord
>>52147262
bullshit
>>52147322
northern calabrians belong in the other group
>>52147262
agree
>>52146976
They FOUR MAIN ITALIAN ETHNICITIES ARE:
SARDINIANS (COMPLETELY EGENTICALLY DIFFERENT FROM ITALIANS SINCE THEY LACK ANCIENT NORTH EURASIAN ADMIXTURE) AND THEY RESEMBLE NEOLITHIC EUROPEAN GENETICALLY.
SOUTH ITALIANS, WHO ARE SIMILAR TO ASHKENAZI JEWS GENETICALLY
CENTRAL ITALIANS, HALF WAY BETWEEN SOUTH ITALIANS AND NORTH ITALIANS
NORTH ITALIANS, GENETICALLY CLOSE TO FRENCH PEOPLE
>>52147799
WE
>>52147891
FUCK YOUR MOTHER
>>52147262
what is him? (no google)
>>52146976
>Europeans think their region truly has special snowflake languages
No. Mainland Italians speak Italian and Sardinians speak Italian and Sardinian.
You don't get to be special snowflakes.
>M-muh Venetian! M-muh Lombard! M-muh Tuscan! M-muh Neapolitan!
Dialects don't count as languages.
>>52147799
Could you perhaps put up a side by side comparison?
>>52148112
they kinda do since italian is an artificial language elaborated from florentine dialect
>inb4 all languages are artificial
>>52148248
...HUH?
>>52148389
[F] RESPECT THE GOATFUCKER
>>52148389
Like post a picture of a central italian, next to a southern italian, next to a northern italian and so on.
>>52147799
South Italians are arabs
Central Italians are half arabs
North Italians are Italians
>>52148571
except that north italians are those who say they're not italians
>>52148548
DO YOU THINK THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE SAME ETHNIC GROUP?
I GUESS THERE ARE MORE BLONDES IN NORTHEN ITALY ON AVERAGE BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT AND SOUTH ITALIANS HAVE MORE HOOKES NOSED PEOPLE.
THERE IS A GENETIC DIFFERENCE BUT IT'S NOT THAT GREAT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE SAUDI ARABS VS FINS, IT'S MORE LIKE FRENCH PEOPLE AND BRITS/SPANIARDS, THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCE BUT YOU CAN'T SPOTTHAT JUST BY LOOKING AT THEM.
Southern Italy Best Italy
Northern Italy = Word Filtered Word that begins with a 'C' and rhymes with "Ducks"
>>52148112
Neapolitan is it's own language, that I know for certain
>>52148571
NOT REALLY...
SOUTH ITALIANS, EVEN SICILIANS, STILL CLUSTER CLOSER TO TO OTHER EUROEPANS THAN TO SAUDI ARABS, BUT IT IS TRUE THAT GENETICALLY SICILIANS ARE CLOSE TO ASHKENAZI JEWS AND MAGHEBRIANS.
NORTH ITALIANS CLUSTER CLOSE TO OTHER SOUTHERN EUROPEANS AND SARDINIANS ARE THEIR OWN DISTINCT ETHNIC GROUP, STILL EUROPEAN, BUT ISOLATED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ANE ADMIXTURE.
>>52148907
>SARDINIANS ARE THEIR OWN DISTINCT ETHNIC GROUP
is this real or what
>>52148971
australians remind me of why i try not to go to boards that use flags
>>52148971
memes
>>52148907
No need to SCREAM
>SOUTH ITALIANS, EVEN SICILIANS, STILL CLUSTER CLOSER TO TO OTHER EUROEPANS THAN TO SAUDI ARABS
According to most PCAs and admixture analyses, they cluster halfway between Brits and Saudis
>>52148971
Yep, lack of ANE means they lack the "East shift" found in most other Europeans, it's a similar thing with basques
tell me you guys how the fuck does the average sicilian looks like an arab or a berber and also how is so different from the other italians:
>>52148084
>tfw you left Italy to never return for anything more than a visit
feelsgoodman.jpg
>>52148971
yes
>>52148907
Holy shit you are that autistic namefag from /his/
>>52148887
>the use of the term "dialect" to refer to the languages of Italy may erroneously suggest that the variety of languages spoken in Italy are "dialects" of Standard Italian, which is generally not the case. Rather, Standard Italian is itself a continuation of (or heavily based on) the Florentine Tuscan dialect, and most of the regional languages of Italy evolved or diverged locally from Latin alongside but independently of the dialect that would become known as Standard Italian, long before the fairly recent spread of Standard Italian throughout Italy. Thus, most regional languages in Italy are better classified as separate languages descended independently from Latin, rather than "dialects" of the Standard Italian language.
>>52148971
Sardinians are literally our I2a brethren
>>52149061
So we are closer to them than other italians, intredazting.
>>52149084
>Cherrypicking Picone without Ficarra
>>52149061
are you serious? you're basically saying that, interpreting that map like you do, frogs, romanians and serbians too are halfway between saudis and brits
>>52148971
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Sallis-Jewish-Genetics_files/pc-jews.jpg
Yes
>>52149103
Ooh, a real italian american, what's your story?
>>52149195
you mean Picarra e Ficone
>>52149203
Nah, just measure the distance with eyesight, those you mentioned are like 1/4 to 1/8 the way from Brits to Saudis, while South Italians/Jews/Greeks are halfway
>>52149136
NO, I'M NOT HIM, SORRY, BUT HE MADE ME WANNA TYPE LIKE THIS
>>52149249
he pleads the fifth
>>52149195
>implying picone is not sicilian
>implying the average sicilian doesn't look like him
>implying there aren't people that look like ficarra in the north
>>52149249
left when i was a kid
>>52147799
So if I want a euro ooga booga cavefu, I should d8 a Sardinian? Are they super unique culturally? Literally all I know about them is the maggot cheese
>>52149331
people didn't live in caves during the neolithic in Europe, your Americaness is showing....
I'm in love with an Franco-Italian guy
[spoiler]he's white[/spoiler]
>>52149321
Do you know any italian americans, and what are your thoughts on them?
are Ligurians white?
>>52149437
yes
>>52149437
does this fellow look white to you?
>>52149436
I live in Boston now, I know plenty as while the Irish infest the city there are still a lot of Italians
I didn't have a problem with them but good god when I watched the Sopranos for the first time I wanted to punch every fucking character
Feels good being white
>>52149515
toti isn't ligurian
>>52149399
>he is too autistic to distinguish between figures of speech and actual perceived facts
Btw do Maltese count as euros? Don't they have some crazy ass neolithic cave temples etc?
>>52149595
I count them if only for their service during the Crusades
>>52149566
>Dinaric face
>>52149595
Maltese are an Arab/Italian/British mix
>>52149595
Google Malta, and if it is Europe they are Euros.
>>52149573
whoops i didn't know
>>52149437
okay pic rel is ligurian
>>52149668
>>52149566
This, North (and to some extent Central) Italians often look Yugo as fuck, even some Southerners do, especially the lighter ones like Immobile
>>52149595
the original population migated somewhere else
>>52149724
>not posting the GOAT ligurian
>>52149829
What a disgusting fat fuck
>>52149668
I usually imagine Dinarics with a fat fucking head, like Mamić
There are hundreds of differences and at the same time we are all the same
>>52149829
based
>>52149993
Their heads are more rectangular. They're also usually tall and lean.
>>52150080
who ever bottom right is, she looks exactlylike one of my ex class mates (I'm Sardinian)
>>52150221
Francesca Chillemi
>>52150080
>>52150221
Arriana Grande is the name. She thought she was Italian, when she actually is half Greek and half Arab,
>>52150080
>Sardinia and Sicily togheter
>>52150438
assuming she or one of her parents weren't adopted, how the hell do you not know what you are as recently as grandparents?
I get how maybe finding out your ancestors came from somewhere you wouldn't have expected generations ago, but not for grandparents
>>52150581
>how the hell do you not know what you are as recently as grandparents?
Have you forgotten that she is American by nationality. This explains everything.
>>52150681
So? That's even more inexcusable if anything
A Bulgarian would probably assume that their family has always been as such for at least a while. An American would know that unless they're not Native American that they had to have come from somewhere and looked into it. I've known my ethnic roots since I was 12 or so
visually, the darkest are sardinians, sicilians, calabresi, romans, liguri.
genetic profile almost identical all over the country, which has been shielded by the sea o/e/s and by the mountains up north, and despite what is commonly spewed on the internet, has remained almost unchanged since roman times.
the desperate northern italians who dwell in this shithole of a website 24/7 and piss their pants irl when confronted push hard this arab/germanic italy dichotomy both online and when safely among themselves, all while southern italians work hard in factories to keep the place going. they tried to push for a political division for years until it was discovered that their pro-independence party was corrupted to the bone. now the same party pathetically goes south to look for votes, after years of talk about civil wars and building walls.
economically enormous differences due to centuries of disastrous government.
that's all you need to know.
>italians
>tryin to fix shit
pick one.
>>52150581
i know some branchs of the family as far as 1800
am i autistic?
>>52149436
why do all italian americans have this shitty tan and weird attitude?
italian brazilians don't do that shit
>>52146976
>>52148907
>Lack of any admixture
Wasn't it part of Carthage?
>>52150962
ane admixture was brought by steppe invaders, not by phoenicians
>>52150962
being part of something doesn't mean there's admixture
normans ruled parts of southern italy for centuries and there is almost no admixture there
>>52150886
map of italy by blonde hair or light eyes
i don't remember
>>52151124
blonde hair, but the wikipedia page disagrees with this map on Sardinians.
>>52150962
even though Sardinia has been conquered by countless people, no one actually moved there.
Except for the city of Alghero. The Spaniards took the place and kicked the natives out. In fact Catalan is still spoken there.
>>52150886
>>52151124
forgot to add
this is the proof that original europeans didn't have features associated with white (light eyes and light hair)
>>52150886
300.000 individuals from 1859-63.
Hair blondism highest frequencies : Veneto (12.6%), Piemonte (12.4%), Lombardia (10.7%), Liguria (10.5%)
Lowest blondism frequencies : Calabria (3.8%), Sardinia (1.7%)
Highest blue-eyes frequencies : Veneto (15.7%), Piedmonte (13.5%)
Lowest blue-eyes frequencies : Sardinia (4.02%), Calabria (5.47%),
Total for Italy (hair): Red-Hair 0.58%, Blonde 8.22%, Chestnut 60.15%, Black 31.1%
Total for Italy (eyes) : Blue 10.33%, Gray 20.61%, Chestnut 60.29%, Black 8.75%
>>52150829
>t. terrone
why are liguri dark?
>>52151177
these statistics are from like 70 years ago
>>52151206
Sardinians have about 15% light hair on average, that map is from blondism
>>52151265
*light eyes I meant
>>52151206
>this is the proof that original europeans didn't have features associated with white (light eyes and light hair)
You're implying Italy is closest to original Yuros? Nah, they have much more ENF genes than any other place in Europe (around 70%), and Neolithic Middle Eastern invaders only came 10000 to 6000 years ago, while WHGs have been here for 40k years
>>52151249
Where is green eye color?
I reckon that there would be a significant amount of people with green eyes in Italy
>>52151265
Per quanto riguarda il colore degli occhi, nelle vecchie provincie di Sassari, Nuoro e Oristano il colore degli occhi predominante è il castano medio mentre nella provincia di Cagliari il castano scuro (scala Martin-Schultz 12-13 e 14-16). Le tinte intermedie (scala M.S. 9-11 iridi nocciola, ambra e castano chiare) si attestano in generale sul 16%[8] mentre le iridi di colore chiaro (scala M.S. 1-8 azzurre, grigie, verdi) raggiungono una media regionale del 14% [8]. Un analogo studio effettuato dall'antropologo dell'Università di Cagliari Carlo Maxia ha restituito le seguenti percentuali[9]:
Colore occhi Maschi Femmine
Celesti 4,24% 3,78%
Grigi 5,37% 4,83%
Verdi 6,27% 6,03%
Castani 75,26% 75,67%
Neri 8,83% 9,66%
Esaminati 15.250 15.167
Le iridi chiare, come dimostrato in altre esaminazioni su altre popolazioni europee, risultano leggermente più diffuse fra i maschi (15,88%) che fra le femmine (14,64%), allo stesso tempo le femmine mostrano una percentuale più alta di capelli chiari e pigmentazione cutanea bianca-rosea.
>>52151328
I'm talking about Sardinians, who inhabited Sardinia since the Upper Paleolithic
>>52151330
bright green? not really
olive green, like a brownish green? yes there's a good bit of that
>>52151376
Sardinians (and Basques) only are special because they lack ANE (which also came in late, similar to ENF), but they too are about 70% ENF/Middle Eastern and low on WHG
>>52149203
No, you can measure the distance by eyesight even to see that isn't true, South Italians are genetically closer to the nations to the south than north.
Don't worry though, Stormfront has to keep their "unified" front up so you won't lose any points for people who actually care about this shit, even though we all know what the truth really is.
>>52151330
they sure have green/hazel eyes, idk why they didn't count them though
>>52151502
is Argentina white?
>>52148112
>we don't have a culture so you don't get to have one either
>>52151614
The problem is that he thinks that dialects are accents.
>>52151702
>>52151702
>grew up with irpino
>go to piemonte
>they're speaking their gibberish
>uwotm8.png
yeah it's all one language, totally
>>52150438
>half Greek half Arab
So your average Sicilian?
>>52151124
>all those Longobard fucking shits near Benevento
>Dat Norman sicilian admixture
Dank map
