What the hell is going on over there?!?
>>52129136
What I the problem. I also vote on the commies.
>>52129136
It's called solidarity
Maybe your country can try it sometime
Ask your questions and I will answer the best I can.
>>52129289
Why u no vote for National Front?
Like, at all?!
>>52129378
People did vote for them, during the first turn of the elections, they ended up being ahead in most regions. The thing is, during the first turn you get lots of candidates representating various political parties and when they lost, the people who voted for them usually vote for one of the remaining candidate. People may criticize the PS or LR as much as they want, those two parties have a much more federative power than the FN. Basically, the FN kept its votes from the first turn, while the PS and LR won the votes of the eliminated parties.
In the end, the FN received roughly 25% of the votes, which is a lot, but on the national level. It didn't help them winning any region, though.
Do I make sense or is this not clear ?
>>52129378
Not him but fn is #1 nationalist party in all Europe so go bitch at the Germans or something because except some Easterners we're actually the only people left in this fucking "union" who have such a successful far right
>>52129378
Allow me to translate for France:
¿ Pork-wad voo ne-votey pas pour le Fron du Nationale, see-voo plate?
>>52129136
tl:dr version ; it was every party against them, basically.
PS (leftwing) withrew from the elections. UMP and its allies (right wing) had the votes from the left wing voters.
And the worst thing about it : PS will STILL get sieges for what reaosns they made up.
It was every party against one.
>>52129378
>Why u no
2010 called, it wants its meme back
from what i understand, the system is actually rigged just to keep the fn out of power. forever.
is that right or no.
FN will have many representatives in regional instances and their opinion will weight just like communists weighted during charles de gaulle mandate without being actually elected
>>52129808
Yeah, we can say that. Unless it's ever over 50%
>>52129808
No, it isn't. Besides I don't see how you could come to that conclusion in the first place.
friendly reminder
never trust a commie
>>52129808
>there are more people who don't vote for the FN than there are people who vote for it
>the FN isn't elected
>the system is rigged
>>52129136
>>52129378
Are you aware that FN supports most of the same fiscal policies as PS, right?
They're just anti-immigration socialists, like most """"right-wing""" parties in Europe.
>>52129621
Sort of. I've been trying to piece together the news there, and the web media here is emphasizing the FN loss.
On one hand, it says they won, but in the larger sense, it says they lost.
It was confusing. I hoped for more support for the FN.
I have to wonder if FN simply failed to get their people out, but that is hard to imagine. I cant figure how it appears they did poorly.
There's a little confusion here. The perception is that France keeps perpetuating the mindset that began their problems with domestic security and tranquility.
Of course, its not as bad as Germany and Sweden. We are often told by radio hosts that a lot of Europe is 'gone'. Just in the last two weeks, I have heard it said about London, Paris and Germany. No one even wants to talk about Sweden anymore because if you comment on what the Swedish we knew did to themselves, its sounds like you are speaking badly of a suicide case after they are dead.
I will give credit to Hollande though, in most ways he seemed to respond to the attacks well. I just felt France was safer with Sarkozy.
>the French Communist party has abandoned the hammer and sickle as its insignia in favour of a five-pointed star is about more than historical embarrassment
>French pussies
>commie
>>52129964
>there are 101 flavors of ice cream
>50 pick one flavor
>51 picks any other flavor, no other flavor gets more than 2-3 people each
>for some reason the 50-man-flavor is not the favourite of that group
>>52129788
>2015
>implying
>>52130080
>five-pointed star
six would've been much more appropriate
>>52129716
I see, ty
>>52130066
>Of course, its not as bad as Germany and Sweden.
France will be the first country in the EU to become islamic. Prior to France banning any kind of official statistics relating to race/religion, france was thought to be 11% muslim.
We all like to meme on Germany and Sweden but France leads the charge when it comes to muslim immigration.
>>52130066
>We are often told by radio hosts that a lot of Europe is 'gone'. Just in the last two weeks, I have heard it said about London, Paris and Germany
Is that the same radio hosts that said some areas of Paris are locked by the military ? No offense, but what I usually read about us in U.S newspapers is wrong. As soon as you stop picturing us at "Europe" you'r in the wrong.
>>52129808
Im not sure, but I think maybe what they call their 'first round' is like our primaries.
>>52130373
There's so much wrong with that post I barely know where to start. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.
>>52130373
>Prior to France banning any kind of official statistics relating to race/religion
In the 50's? Lmao you retard
>>52129808
No it's not. Hell Le Pen is even under suspicion of rigging votes right now.
>>52129195
>portugrammar
>>52130511
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#Ethnic_groups
>Due to a law dating from 1872, the French Republic prohibits performing census by making distinction between its citizens regarding their race or their beliefs
>>52130488
>>52130511
Thanks for correcting me using your overwhelming knowledge. French intellect everyone
>>52129977
Hum they have somewhat related ideas about fiscality, but the real problem is not even their stance on immigration, it's on economic problems.
Their stance is so retarded it would sink France much further than Hollande and Sarkozy combined did, with even less time.
>>52129136
they've been a hotbed of socialism pretty much since the days of the revolution, this is nothing new
>>52130373
I just dont see it. The French are tolerant to a point. But they aren't stupid.
Its the difference between someone who wants to be seen as 'tolerant and multicultural' but has the sense to avoid danger, and the other type that actually drink their own koolade and bend over for any minority/outsider.
The French are intellectual and passionate, but they have been through this enough to be realists over the centuries. I just dont see them actually buying into this modern crap unless it is only the youth voting.
Plus, it makes me wonder what the rural vote is like in France.
I dont begrudge them for having more muslims since they have a legitimate connection to the islamic region.
Its not like Britain, Sweden, Germany and the Dutch, who have no real reason to think inviting an alien primitive culture into their streets make sense. France has north Africa, so it makes sense they would have more Muslims. These other countries, for the most part, have no excuse. France has a legitimate cultural tie to some muslim countries.
>>52130421
>Is that the same radio hosts that said some areas of Paris are locked by the military ?
I'm sorry. I don't know what you mean.
>>52130373
U fukin wot m8
At least try to educate yourself before talking about shit you know nothing about.
>>52130776
Basically, the rural vote here tended to be for the PS in the western part of the country, and the right or far right for all but one region on the Eastern part.
>>52130709
Okay, you want to talk about Australian intellect ?
>France will be the first country in the EU to become islamic
Out of your ass
>Prior to France banning any kind of official statistics relating to race/religion, france was thought to be 11% muslim.
The first law banning this kind of statistics dates from 1872 and it was re-introduced in the 50's for the 5th republic. Considering immigrations from Africa started during the 60's, don't you think you'r a little bit full of shit ?
Also >11% out of your ass.
>We all like to meme on Germany and Sweden but France leads the charge when it comes to muslim immigration.
out of your ass.
Australian intellect everyone. Memes and ignorance.
>>52130776
>Is that the same radio hosts that said some areas of Paris are locked by the military ?
I think he's referencing CNN's or Fox's report a few months ago, after the attack on Charlie Hebdo, that said that there were "no go zones" in Paris under the shariah law.
Here friends.
I am sharing this radio stream from San Fransisco, KSFO
It is about to start a radio show for a right winger named Rush Limbaugh, and in 3 hours it will feature another named Michael Savage.
You may find it entertaining, they are both smart, and Savage is playfully nutty.
I just though you might like to hear what all this right wing talk radio is like that we talk about.
http://7319.live.streamtheworld.com/KSFOAMAAC
I assume everyone has some sort of default stream player; its only audio of course
>>52131009
That is helpful, thank you.
>>52130776
>I'm sorry. I don't know what you mean.
Doesn't really matter, it's old story anyway.
I honestly feel you don't really know much about the FN, and I'm not saying that in a dismissive way.
>>52131116
Limbaugh is a fucking retard, and you're obviously a plebeian
>>52129709
kek
>>52131326
I posted it for entertainment and cultural insight into our internal conversations in real time. You don't have to be so rude about it.
>>52131161
I will complete what he said with the fact that the regions where the FN was the most succesful are also the ones where there is a strong arabic population and/or influence.
Well at least according to some maps that I didn't save but that you can easely find on /pol/
>>52131558
Not the same guy, I'm just using your latest post to reply.
One thing that can also explain the "lack" of success of the FN is their communication. People mostly know the FN trough its stances on immigration, security, industry but these doesn't matter for a regional election, since the regions don't have any power regarding these issues.
>>52131161
And you may add that eastern and southern France used to be higly industrialized, and now have strong unemployment rate in rural or semi rural areas, where most people voted FN
>>52132318
>>52132529
Thank you both. It is helpful in understanding how the electorate functions.
>>52132773
You'r welcome. One last thing : despite the fact that it hasn't won any region, the FN still made roughly 25% of the votes, which is a lot.
It is not a surprise though, considering its high results in the last presidential elections. They're still one of the biggest parties of the country, and they're becoming more and more influential, like the communists back in the 60's, like someone said earlier.
And it's coming from someone who didn't vote for them, and don't intend to.
>>52133279
I appreciate the insight. I will try to pay closer attention to the French politics, as I view France as the leader of the continent, or at least Western Europe.
Many thanks again.
>>52129808
>>52129964
>>52130623
Yes, it is basically rigged - rigged by the Socialists. If the Socialists hadn't withdrawn their candidates in the regions with strong FN support, then the FN would have won those regions.
Marine Le Pen won 42.5% of the vote in her Calais region, and Marion won 45% in her Southern region. These are HUGE shares of the vote and if the Socialists were still contesting those regions then the FN would DEFINITELY have won; I don't think anybody can seriously doubt that.
>>52133781
So it's rigged because candidates are allowed to withdrawn ?
>>52134187
The Socialists rigged it didn't they? They pulled out to stop the FN from getting into power.
It's not exactly democratic because lots of people would have voted for the Socialists, but instead didn't have an option to do so.
In my book that's rigging.
>>52134317
Indeed. They shouldn't be allowed to just abandon the election and hijack their people few hours before the vote.
>>52134317
It's not rigged because they are totally allowed to do that. The PS realized they didn't stand a chance in some area, so they withdrawn their candidates, and asked people to vote for this one or this one.
People are free to do whatever they want, if they wanted to vote for the PS and no one else, they're free to use a "Non of the Above" option.
It remains democratic because the people are still free to do as they please. None of them was forced to vote for LR.
>>52135161
>They shouldn't be allowed to just abandon the election and hijack their people few hours before the vote.
It was a week befoe, not a few hours.
>>52135259
That sounds a little like our Republican primary election.
For the past few years, it basically starts out as an entertainment circus as a dozen people jump in to make speeches and sell books, and then broker their supporters to another candidate and gain some influence that way.
Anyone listening to the American radio stream here?
>>52131116
http://7319.live.streamtheworld.com/KSFOAMAAC
Limbaugh mentioned Le Pen a few moments ago and cheered her nationalism and that of France.
He said we need more of that here.
>>52130860
>>52131018
you can almost taste the butthurt
face it, you guys are done for
>>52130080
communism started in paris let em do what they want
>>52129136
France is China of Europe, they like to demolish their country with cultural suicide as a revolution breaks out.
>>52140994
All I know is that when American media talks about Europe, there is this overtone of "Europe Past Tense" and "Europe Today" as being two different places, the way one would say "Rome" and "Ancient Rome". 'Old Europe' is becoming a term of currency, while just "Europe" is being used more and more to describe a state of aftermath, as if iits the region of chaos where a place used to be. No one likes to elaborate much on it because its either politically incorrect or simply rude to discuss since the people are still technically alive, or perhaps because its just too depressing.
The only time Europe really comes up is in financial news, as though it were some bank governing a collapsed region that no one expects to survive much longer. Sort of the way we used to talk about the Soviet Union in the late 80's. People figured it was going to collapse, but it just seemed wrong to talk about the misery of millions of people.
Contrary to common misconception, Americans were a bit relieved that the government fell, but no one was celebrating the misery of the people. It was just a general quiet sense of pity and shame for humanity.
>>52142761
Funny, we think exactly the same of US
>>52142843
Well, its a fair comparison.
>>52129195
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