What is your opinion on women in the military? Why or why shouldn't a woman be allowed to enlist?
>>52058538
I approve. That means in a war i get to fuck some young fresh pussy.
>>52058538
Fine. Just keep them in simple tasks in segregated units.
>>52058556
That's hot though.
>>52058569
Not sure about Brazil, but in the US Army they did their best to keep men and women separated.
>>52058556
Which would be effective in a combat scenario
>>52058586
What kind of kek are you to find that hot?
Foe Hammer was iight
>>52058921
What kind of kek are you to not?
>more sacrifices to the jewlords
Great
>>52058921
I like tough women.
It's only natural to want to tear down their percieved strength and make them feminine like a normal girl.
Military dykes must conform to the cock.
They're weaker and can be raped
Shouldn't be allowed
Women are capable of operating in combat scenarios, contrary to popular belief.
A part of you has to die inside for you to join the military and effectively perform your tasks as per orders by superior command.
>Why or why shouldn't a woman be allowed to enlist?
I don't want that part of me to die yet.
>>52058630
I mean the enemy's females.
I would fight against the USA just to get my hands on some pink Texan soldier pussy.
Common knowledge that rules/standards are tweaked/lowered so that women could qualify.
>>52059071
>Women are capable of operating in combat scenarios, contrary to popular belief.
[Citation needed]
If they can demonstrate they are physically as capable as any other male enlistee, why not?
>>52059151
No witnesses to get the evidence.. Sorry m8
>>52059151
>what is the Red Army
>what is the Vietnam War (Viet Cong)
>Israeli War of Independence
>>52059217
This, pretty sure that's Denmark's system, but apparently no women ever passed their special forces requirements
>>52058921
>What kind of kek are you to find that hot?
The streight kind you faggot.
>>52058538
As long as they have to cover the same standards for any position as a male they should be able to work in any part of the army.
Realistic they should never see the front lines, bar a few exceptions.
Who cares? We don't do wars anymore
NO
women are too damn weak
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8477683
to fucking carry shells and body armor
http://www.livestrong.com/article/421691-the-average-push-ups-for-men-women/
all fucking day, for some time, under fire
http://www.tcsnycmarathon.org/about-the-race/results/overall-men
http://www.tcsnycmarathon.org/about-the-race/results/overall-women
and perform as well on the battlefield as men
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting
It is unjust, immoral, illogical and unpatriotic to allow lesser soldiers, who, by virtue of their births are lesser and will never measure up to the ability to improve of their counterparts, to serve in the greatest military on earth only for the purpose of "equality"
>>52059098
Same family, I'm a northerner though. Guess it's high time for another civil war.
>>52059268
It's almost as if those countries have a need for soldiers, that must be satisfied, unlike the US, which has fucking waiting lists for it's military
>>52059369
Why should we give a damn if someone chooses to die for their country?
>>52059446
because they are a logistical nightmare, costing you taxes
because they die more easily, costing you taxes
because they get injured more easily, costing you taxes
because you pay more for a shittier product
If they can meet the standards we've had for decades, yes. If they can only meet a lower standard set by "progressives," no.
>>52059491
But what if they somehow manage to meet the same standards as men?
>>52059524
If they enter the service as strong as a man, they're generally maxed out, And you know what? Maybe there is a 2% of women who are as good as the bottom 20% of men. It's still not worth the money to try and find them and train them and use them.
>>52059513
how about a lower standard set by "conservatives"
All whores and cunts, just like actual women
If they're able to handle the pressure, why not.
The CIGS here(one of the most brutal training on jugle in the world) only 3 women magae to pass in all its history.
>>52059576
Creepy as fuck desu
>>52059610
>manage
Goddamn shitty keyboard.
>>52059576
Those aren't vets dumbass.
http://www.ibov.org/2015/sorry-internet-these-females-are-not-disabled-veterans/
Disregarded.
women are for breeding future soldiers
If they want to be in the military, I believe they have every right to however they should be fulfilling every requirement necessary and not some watered down crap to fill the wimmin quota.
>>52059714
>every requirement
this takes expensive training, causing expensive damage to their expensive, frail bodies
It's easier and cheaper to just use men
>>52059714
this guy gets it
too bad 99% of them fail even with lowered standards
>>52058538
Just what we need, more bodies thrown to prop up the empire.
>>52058538
Women should not be in combat roles because they arent strong enough, and probably lack the necessary mental traits. Now, there might that 1/1000 woman who can make it, but then theres the problem with hygiene and mens willingness to protect women at all costs.
>>52059636
Disregard the photo then, answer the question
Do you set military standards based on the political orientation of those who frame them?
>>52058538
>mfw the average american soldier rapes at least one woman, most likely in the military, before returning home
>>52059763
I wouldn't know about costs so I can't really say anything except for the fact that I doubt many women would come at all to do voluntary military service anyway. Why would their trainings cost a lot btw, aren't people trained at the same time? The only cost I can really think of is food, uniform and ammunition which couldn't be that much of a drain right?
>>52059772
Yeah it's a shame, it really bothers me that women get to do things even though they can't fulfil requirements though, it really puts people in danger for example when they're a firefighter but can't even bash a door down while people are burning to a crisp inside
>>52059566
Something like that:
>http://egitim.judo.gov.tr/Dosyalar/makaleler/-ENG-Hand-grip-strength-in-judo.pdf
"Maximal isometric hand-grip
force was recorded over 15 s using a handheld hand-
grip ergometer. Biometric parameters included lean
body mass (LBM) and hand dimensions. Mean maxi-
mal hand-grip strength showed the expected clear dif-
ference between men (541 N) and women (329 N).
Less expected was the gender related distribution of
hand-grip strength: 90% of females produced less force
than 95% of males. Though female athletes were sig-
nificantly stronger (444 N) than their untrained female
counterparts, this value corresponded to only the 25th
percentile of the male subjects. "
Cant be assed to reformat.
>>52059864
>t. Nguyen Quang Chung
>>52059877
As the anon above said, women are more injuty-prone than men which increases the cost.
>>52059877
>it really puts people in danger for example when they're a firefighter but can't even bash a door down while people are burning to a crisp inside
http://nypost.com/2015/11/22/struggling-firefighter-injured-after-just-10-days-into-new-job/
>>52059877
they get trained longer to make up for estrogen
>>52059913
>defending rapists
very american.
>>52059980
>thinking all soldiers are rapists
Please just do the job you're given to the very best of your ability and never complain about it being harder because you're a woman
>>52059980
whoa dude
>>52059268
both the red army and Vietnamese were basically throwing troops with almost no training or experience into a meat grinder, iam sure standards to run into a German machine gun nest or get melted by american napalm is pretty low.
>>52059924
>>52059972
your points are really valid and I agree but I still can't say for certain whether or not they really are a liability or not in the long run however, or else why would they allow women in the military at all? Is it seriously because they are forced to? Is the gain really not at all worth it?
>>52059960
>A firefighter who was allowed to graduate the Fire Academy despite failing physical tests
>despite failing physical tests
this is fucking retarded, risking real fucking lives just because they don't want to hurt this woman's "feelings". Don't people realise how fucking serious this is?
>>52058538
Women should be allowed to join the military as long as they can pass the same standards that men have.
As long as they meet the current standards and a cost benefit analysis is favourable.
I'm not in favour of it if enlistment targets could be met through other means and at lesser cost.
>>52060037
>training someone to be a sniper
>
Next time throw a source in instead of just memes, thanks.
>>52058538
>as long as they meet the standards
This is "fair" and all, but it completely ignores the fact only 1% of 1% of 1% actually can. Now you've created a special minority in the active duty combat military that you have to accommodate and care for.
Women in these active combat positions cost more. New bathrooms, new health services, new logistics, etc. They also increase the chance rape is used as a torture tool, ruin male-only team cohesiveness, and lead to white knighting.
Just because I cut off my dick and can complete the standards to be a "female", does not mean all women are going to be okay letting me walk into their changing room. Sometimes you just gotta be unfair and not pander to a very very small minority at the cost of the vast majority.
>>52060130
>training someone to be a sniper
they grew up on farms, and shot regularly
just take nugget, hide in trees, shoot invaders
that's all
>>52058538
Because she can't carry my ass in case i catch a bullet during combat also she wont be thinking straight 1 week every month so i can't trust her decisions
>>52058538
They should be allowed to enlist.
Also, everyone who can vote should have to register for the draft. Currently, only men in the USA have to register for the draft. If women can vote, they should be forced to fight for their country too.
I think they should just so they can get drafted
>>52058538
They are pretty shit at what they do, fortunately they always end up as combat cooks in some shithole unit like artillery, so they are as far away from something important as possible.
what if they get period cramps during battle
>>52058538
I think they can operate drones, for example.
But not in infantry:
1. I'm not sure that averag woman can carry average men and their equipment.
2. If the enemies take it captive, her fate will be sad.
>>52058538
Totally fine with it as long as they pass same standards as men.
Regarding combat roles: sure if they can pass.
You guys forget that a modern army has many non-combat roles too, and women are perfectly capable of performibg there. For example, working in the control tower of an airforce base.
>>52059377
wat
if they meet the limits the men have to, then why not
not sure how they perform under stress tho. for better or for worse?
>>52058538
I'm okay with this if they are in separate regiments.
I'm fine with it as long as you male and female soldiers separated. In all honest women in the field should be a last resort and when you mix them with males its going to be a nightmare because once one is shot you are going to have a shit ton of blood thirsty males just losing their shit and getting killed because of it.
I have no problem with it
I think women of Finland should be forced to military service as well like men, if only because it's a sensitive topic that pisses off feminists that claim to want "equality"
Female soldier against Muslim soldier is tough weapon. Since they believe they won't get in heaven when a woman kills them, they get confused and fear.
>>52058538
I think its great. Because my country they don't want to serve for thier country. We have to learn Israeli women.
>>52069302
the Finnish girl I talk to isn't a feminist or liberal at all
in fact she would fit in well here if I allowed her to
>>52058538
Best mine disarmers, recon units.
>>52059610
the left one is top qt
>>52059864
Where is the proofs?
women should not be in combat/front line roles
Don't see big issue really, we even share rooms here.
>>52079195
>sharing rooms somehow gauges combat effectiveness
Enjoy your male troops going full-retard once a female is wounded.
>>52059369
I am going to say, perhaps some of your statements are true, generally. I do not too much doubt that many of the highest performing athletes and such have generally been male. However, I will note that militaries are big, big things. There is no fundamental reason that a female who meets the standards to which others are subjected should not be in the military.
>>52058538
>Not the same requirements to enlist yet we're supposed to do the same job
>Getting paid the same amount of money yet they're doing less things than males and when they're given a job it's always an easy task
This counts for the Police/Gendarmerie plus this;
>Has no natural authority nor the physical aspect to control or neutralise a suspect
>Crack down easily under pressure when given a task usually given to a male
Fuck this "muh female officiers/soldiers" trend
>>52059217
This.
>>52058538
If Asians can be athlets and Arabs can be lawyers women should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want in the military
