>Be genetically germanic, celtic, nordic...
>Be geographically not southern
>but
>Be roman catholic culturally
>Be latin-speaking
>then
>culturally southern but genetically/geographically not southern
Does this make France wonderful or just autistic?
I personally think that this makes France an unique country and that's ok
But it's also a pain in the ass sometimes
>francetugal
>>52049566
>germanic, nordic
top fucking kek
>>52049642
Most of frenchs are celtic and germanic. There are also nordic frenchs
Roman frenchs are a minority but also present, especially in the south
There are also few non-indoeuropean frenchs in Aquitania and basque country
>>52049738
Manolo deja de vomitar memes y visita Francia, la mayoría son morenos de piel clara y ojos variables, como muchos Británicos y algunos españoles e italianos.
>>52049566
Pretty good combination
>>52049566
Not wonderful or autistic, it's just that we're the crossing of many cultures in Europe.
>this triggers the french in denial
>>52049566
I agree OP, France is somewhat unique and that's pretty cool.
France is a meme country tbdesu
>>52049738
Manolo, most french are Juan Reno looking. But with bigger, fat noses a la Depardieu.
>>52050049
every country is a meme country
>>52049866
The real Frenchmen, not African "French", you dumbass
>>52050065
Lmao
>>52049566
that just makes you autistic desu m8
>>52049866
What are you saying?
>>52050086
>Most French guys aren't dark haired with pale skin and either brown or light eyes
Literally in denial. Even the gauls in the Asterix movies had to use blonde wigs.
>>52050187
Thank fucking god we're not latins
>>52050291
There's a shitload of people with that look in Britain too, you just have way more blonds than France.
it's shaped like an hexagon, and corsica should be italian
>>52049566
Well we're also a mishmash. We've got a mostly Germanic language but with lots of Latin and particularly French words, I'm guessing from the Norman conquests of Britain.
We've got Celtic heritage in the West of the British Isles, Danish heritage in East Anglia, Norman heritage in the South, etc.
Basically all of Europe is a mishmash when you think about it. Kaliningrad Oblast was once Prussian, and at another time was Polish. There's Alsace, which is ethnically pretty Germanic. Many of the Balkan states were once Austria-Hungary. Etc.
>>52050291
A shame.
>>52050412
this, corsican sounds like shit with a french accent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teuSS0DRt5o
>>52050458
MUH
>>52050380
Average brit has light brown hair, blue eyes, red facial hair, turns red in direct sunlight within 20 minutes, and pasty white. Inb4 Russel brand. He's mixed with southern euro
>>52050412
>corsica should be italian
>Corsica was french before italia even exist
I bet you are also like those niggers who believe Alsace-Lorraine is german clay.
>>52050607
>before italia even exist
???
>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians#Roman_era
>>52050542
Only a million Brits today have Roman genes, they didn't fuck us or give us Roman citizenship for most of the occupation
>>52050674
yea cause you were niggers back then
>>52050674
It's not about ''roman genes'', it's about being romanized. It's a shame that the isles never became entirely roman like Iberia and Gaul.
>>52050187
Nigga you what ?
French aren't blond but certainly not dark haired.
The majority of us are chatain (chestnut ?), often light close to ash blond actually. With blue, green or amber eyes.
>>52050607
Corsica was literally sold to France in the 18th century because of a denbt, it had always been Italian before
>>52050710
Now latins and Italians are the niggers to us
France is the GOAT country if I'm honest
>>52050799
ur mums a nigger LOL
>>52050736
Fuck that, I like France but I'd never want to be like the French culturally
>>52050770
>The majority of us are chatain (chestnut ?), often light close to ash blond actually. With blue, green or amber eyes.
that doesn't meet the 4chan "white" race standards
>culturally
>genetically
When will these memes die
>>52050542
sounds like central italian/tuscan dialect or something
>>52050655
>Roman=Italia
Are you for real ?
Italia as a nation started with the creation of the French sisterships republic of Italia in 1802 by Napoeleon.
Before that Italian peninsula was a clusterfuck of small kingdoms and cities states with a lot of rivalry
>>52050911
Wends
>>52050862
you're becoming a bit like saudi arabia culturally as of late my friend...
>>52049566
retards
"Germanic," "Celtic" and "Nordic" are all subjective terms. 2500 years ago there were no Germanic or Celtic tribes, they were basically all the same hunter gatherer/light farmers with similar cultures and ways of life that moved around all over Europe
>>52050966
see >>52050796, it's not just "roman"
>>52050802
Go eat your burger. Amerifats opinions don't count.
>>52051054
Whatever you say Jamal hernandez
>>52051054
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>>52050928
His native language is french and as a native french and italian speaker myself, I can clearly hear a french accent. Here's a corsican with a better accent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7BQALhi5I
>>52050966
The roman italian peninsula = Ancient Italy
Read the post to which you replied.
Also, the word ''Italia'' is thousands of years old and our Stella d'Italia dates back to the 6th century BC.
The ''Italy never existed until recently'' meme needs to die asap.
>>52051140
>Americans
>>52050589
Most of the cast from Torchwood had dark hair, pale skin and light eyes. It's not the most common look sure since you can vary quite a lot but I see it in your shows from time to time.
>>52050770
I've been to France and I watch a lot of your movies because I actually like your media and most of you aren't light brown haired. Dark brown at the very best.
>ITT: let me tell you about your country
>>52051123
I'm white :) what would you give to trade me for your halal neighbors who wake you up at night during their 6th prayer of the day?
>>52051140
Thanks my friend it took a lot of work to craft that memepost
>>52051181
>The roman italian peninsula = Ancient Italy
I stoped here.
>>52051310
Our film don't represent the french population. It's full of leftard and nigger lovers who put tons of "diversity" in their film to make believe those subhuman are french too.
m8 France goes from the Pyrenees to Belgium the least you could do is take into account we have every hair and eye colour you can get
Even I living in the south see blonds and redhead on a daily basis
>>52051440
Italian history didn't start in the 19th century.
Also, the ancient roman civilization was an ancient italic one (italian). Reminder:
>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians#Roman_era
>>52051181
>The ''Italy never existed until recently'' meme needs to die asap.
kek. Have you ever open a History Book my black friend ?
The concept of a Italian nation is "very" recent and was realized by Napoleon when he kicked the Austrian of north italia and become king of the Italian Republic.
During all the middle age, "Italia" was nothing but kingdoms and city state always in war between them.
>>52051440
>Our film
Tu connais quoi tu cinéma français ducon? Arrête tes conneries, nordiciste de merde, la France n'a jamais été un ''pays de nordique''.
D'ailleurs, la France est latine depuis l'antiquité classique >>52050007
>>52051600
>furente
Let's bring in the haploshits while we're at it - les frogs are pretty much inbetween German, Birtish, Iberian and North Italian clusters
>>52049566
>Be genetically germanic, celtic, nordic...
this is false you know, actually just a little number of frenchs looks "nordic" dark hair & browns eyes predomine everywhere
>>52051536
how many hijabs do you see a day? I'm not bantering France is my favorite country but I'm curious. Are there enough muslims to be noticeable on a daily basis?
>>52051667
>Have you ever open a History Book my black friend ?
Have you you delusionial little turd?
>muh nation
Italy has existed for thousands of years.
Since you're mentally deficient I'll repeat it again:
>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians#Roman_era
>>52051600
You confound people and nation.
It's like saying Visigoth, Ostrogoth, Vandale... tribes were german because they were germanic
>>52051718
What?
>>52051749
Poland more Swedish than Russian this is very reliable and insightful
>>52051846
youre mad, guy
>>52051859
Well you didn't get the Mongol/Uralic/Siberian enrichment many East Slavs got
>>52051812
This, fuck the English language for not calling us something akin to "deutsch"... maybe "thewdish"? But that sounds like shit too.
I get triggered everytime someone equates me, a proud Celto-West-Germanic Frank, to a marauding and plundering G*th, it's like calling Slovenes Russians and blaming gommunism on them
>>52051949
I know what that word means. My question is what? as in how?
>>52051991
mad
>>52052005
Why? How?
>>52050291
Yea, thanks god, I'm not
>>52051987
>This
The ancient romans from the italian peninsula were ancient italians, same as the pre-romanized ancestors of many of the later romanized italian romans such as the sabines and etruscans.
The ancient roman civilization was an ancient italian one. As I said, the history of Italy didn't start in the 19th century. See >>52051181
>>52052092
>I'm not
You are. Nice try my latin friend.
>>52051715
>Vercingétorix c'est l'histoire de France
Putain mais ferme ta gueule, tu dis constamment de la merde depuis que tu es dans ce thread. Ta connaissance de l'histoire est déplorable, tu fais honte à tout le monde.
Pour ta culture sache que l'histoire de France avec un grand F commence à partir du traité de Verdun qui partage l'empire de Charlemagne entre ses fils.
Tout ce qui est avant n'est pas l'histoire de France mais l'histoire d'autre peuples.
Enfin, dire que la France est latine, c'est chier sur les 500ans qui se sont écoulés entre la chute de l'empire romain d'occident et la proclamation du dit traité de Verdun. Sache encore une fois que durant ces 5 siècles, la "France" (entendant par la le futur territoire de la France) fut littéralement submergé durant les invasions barbares par les tributs germaniques. Visigoth, Osthrogoth, Vandale, Francs, Suèves... Tous sont passé par la "France" et beaucoup sont restés, tout particulièrement les Francs.
Alors certes, ca ne fait pas de la France un pays germanique et encore moins nordique, mais c'est plus que suffisent pour ne pas pouvoir qualifier la France de latine. La France est un mélange unique entre Latin et Germanique.
Enfin, pour terminé vu que tu as l'air d'apprécier nos amis les gaullois, sache que eux même sont arrivés par l'est.
Maintenant, tu arrêtes de poster et tu vas ouvrir un livre. Merci.
>>52051667
>The concept of a Italian nation is "very" recent and was realized by Napoleon when he kicked the Austrian of north italia and become king of the Italian Republic.
>who is Frederick II
>>52052158
Didn't argue for/against it ITT, but let me add my 2 cents
Sure, under Rome, the Italian peninsula was unified for a couple centuries, but over 1000 years afterwards up to 1860, the different regions went their own way mostly, it's somewhat similar to Germany actually
Sicily and the South spoke Greek not too long ago, while the North was historically more intertwined with France and to some extent German states
>>52052214
>Vercingétorix c'est l'histoire de France
??????????????????????????
QUAND EST-CE QUE J'AI DIT ÇA????????
>>52051783
Depends, if you are talking about face covered none since it's illegal (although in the worst neighborhood some don't give a shit) and if you are talking about hair covered not that much. I see arabs (especially since I live in a shit area) but not much with hijabs in the city center
But seriously I can't give you a true answer for all France, I live in a big city so there are more than in a village or in the middle of the Massif Central
>>52052214
>tu as l'air d'apprécier nos amis les gaullois
?????????????????
>>52050412
>and Corsica should be Italian
And Portugal should be a part of the Caliphate of Córdoba
>>52052214
>Pour ta culture sache que l'histoire de France avec un grand F commence à partir du traité de Verdun qui partage l'empire de Charlemagne entre ses fils
Glad you finally stop claiming our happy fun time together from ~490 (Chlodwig I) to 843 as solely your own
>>52050862
>but I'd never want to be like the French culturally
'got some bad news for ya...
>>52052363
Et? Réponds à ma question, quand-est ce que j'ai dit:
>>52052214
>Vercingétorix c'est l'histoire de France
WhoTheFuckAreYouQuoting.webm
Je parlais de l'histoire de l'ITALIE (nom qui remonte à des milliers d'années et dont l'étoile https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89toile_d%27Italie remonte au 6ième siècle avant Jésus Christ).
>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians#Roman_era
>>52052507
We don't have French culture.
>>52049566
that's so sweet senpai!
I myself am a mix between southern and northern france.
>>52052272
>Sicily and the South spoke Greek not too long ago
You mean before Rome? Nice try.
The Greek inhabitants of Southern Italy were also entirely Italianized during the Middle Ages.
>1000 years afterwards up to 1860, the different regions went their own way mostly
They were still all italian.
>>52052545
"Italy" is actually a pun, from "lati(n)y"
>>52052481
I'm not responsible for the deplorable education of my compatriotes. They were sleepy in History class.
Also they are many arabs who post under the french flags. Those fuckers don't know a shit but what their imams tell.
>>52052208
>ce latinboo ne cessera jamais de me briser les burnes
>tfw parents are from the north and I was born in the south so I'm white but still live in the best part of the country
>>52052655
are you considered tsundere, senpatriote?
>>52052596
>You mean before Rome? Nice try.
Nah I mean up to ca. 18th-19th century. There's still some small Greek-speaking communities in the Italian South
>>52052596
I dunno, the genetic and cultural differences between North an South in Italy are bigger than in any other European country
>>52052639
Isn't Chlodwig I sometimes official considered your first king though? Nothing wrong with that desu, but he was ours too (I'm from left of the Rhine and we've been Frankish since at least late 5th century - before that it was mostly Continental Celts living here, very likely offshoot of or closely related to Gauls)
>>52052545
Putain mais t'es incroyablement con ? Tu as un dédoublement de personnalité c'est ça ?
La tu affirme que la France est latine depuis l'antiquité >>52051715
>D'ailleurs, la France est latine depuis l'antiquité classique
Et en plus tu auto cite ton poste >>52050007 avec ton image de gaulois et de romain en ajoutant en gros que ca fait partie de notre histoire.
Avec tes deux postes tu affirmes en gros que :
La France est latine
Et que les gaulois c'est aussi la France.
Ce que j'ai démonté ici>>52052214
Maintenant prends tes médocs et va te coucher.
>>52052715
I've been told I looked either Irish (because red beard and freckles) or Russian (because blue/green eyes, light hair and pale skin)
>>52052598
[citation needed]
The term Italia, from Latin: Italia, was borrowed through Greek from the Oscan Víteliú, meaning "land of young cattle" (cf. Lat vitulus "calf", Umb vitlo "calf"). The bull was a symbol of the southern Italic tribes and was often depicted goring the Roman wolf as a defiant symbol of free Italy during the Social War. Greek historian Dionysius of Halicarnassus states this account together with the legend that Italy was named after Italus, mentioned also by Aristotle and Thucydides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy#Etymology
>The Etruscan civilization reached its peak about the 7th century, but by 509 BC, when the Romans overthrew their Etruscan monarchs, its control in Italy was on the wane. By 350 BC, after a series of wars with both Greeks and Etruscans, the Latins, with Rome as their capital, gained the ascendancy by 272 BC, and they managed to unite the entire Italian peninsula.
>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians#Roman_era
Why do non-italians always try to deny that ''Ancient Rome'' was an ancient italian civilization? Yes I'm mad. I don't see the ancient minoans, mycenaeans, spartans and macedonians not being considered greeks and not part of ''Ancient Greece''. Now that I think about it, ''Ancient Rome'' should actually be renamed ''Ancient Italy'' because the ancient romans from the italian peninsula from which this glorious civilization arose were actually ancient italians.
>>52052821
>some small Greek-speaking communities in the Italian South
There's also catalan and albanian speaking communities, it doesn't make Southern Italy catalan and albanian though. Southern Italy is Italy.
>>52052821
>genetic and cultural differences between North an South in Italy
do not in any way make one or the other less italian. Northern Italy + Southern Italy = Italy
Enough with the memes.
>>52052956
Not of recent immigrants though, but carried on since those places were Greek colonies in BC times
Also now I know you're a plastic terrone
>>52052905
Why are Italian diaspora the most cringeworthy?
>>52052821
>Chlodwig I
Well Clovis I has a special place in French education because he is, by is conversion to the Jew on a stick faith, the first king of proto-France.
France was the first daughter of the Christianity
>>52052847
>en ajoutant en gros que ca fait partie de notre histoire.
''Ça'' quoi?
>Et que les gaulois c'est aussi la France
Non. Les gaulois c'est la France pré-latine et la France n'a pas toujours été latine.
T'es débile ou...?
>>52053017
I'm not ''diaspora'' and how are facts cringeworthy? Disprove what's contained in the post to which you replied instead of resorting to buzzwords.
>>52053065
Yeah, but his territory at the time was Austrasia, split over our cunts + parts of Benelux, so yeah I accept someone from let's say Metz claiming hurritage, but some Ibero-Basque-admixed Aquitanian or Italo-Greek-admixed Massalian? Ehhh...
>>52053065
Based Clovis and the Soissons vase
I actually learned that story in maternelle, with perspective I wonder why the fuck our teacher told us about a guy splitting another guy's skull with an axe over a war spoil when we were 5 y.o
>>52053112
It's not the facts, but how personally you feel invested in them you dago wop guinea poof
>>52053065
Hum, my post is not clear sorry. To be more precise, what which define middle age France in the mind of people is the geographical location, the name and the religion.
With Clovis I all the criteria match. His kingdom was on "our" soil, he was the king of Francs, his dynasty is heavily linked to the one of our first "official" king and finally he was christian.
That's why we often think Clovis is our first king.
What are the different French cities like? Specifically Paris, Lyon, Marseille, Strasbourg, Brest, and Bordeaux.
>>52053230
>how personally you feel invested in them
As I said, I don't see the ancient minoans, mycenaeans, spartans and macedonians (delusional fyromians don't count) not being considered greeks and not part of ''Ancient Greece''. You're expecting me to stay quiet when I see a brit telling me that the italic roman civilization wasn't italian? Are you kidding me? As I also previously said, italian history didn't start in the 19th century.
>>52053306
Shitholes
>>52050871
> not albino
> literally moorish
>>52052905
jj
sei l'unico uometto de la mia vita.
>>52053187
You forgot some part of his kingdom, Hans.
>>52053366
Well memed
>>52053348
I never said any of that, I don't disagree with facts either. I'm just suffering from second hand embarrassment from the
>Why do we call them Romans and not ancient Italians, I don't see etc. Doing the same
>Yes I'm mad
You faggot
>>52052905
>Yes I'm mad.
just ignore them m8. The opinion on some people on 4chan is not relevant, here most people are intelligent enough to take memes are memes, but there are some retards who take them seriously. And then you see people actually believing that Italians have nothing to do with the Romans, that they are olive skinned and that all Northern Italians hate the Southerners.
>>52053422
Was Paris taken this early? Huh, didn't know that
But no way was the Rhine area (Middle and Northern Upper) the latest, but rather the first
>>52053542
>>Why do we call them Romans and not ancient Italians, I don't see etc. Doing the same
Why don't answer that?
>>Yes I'm mad
That's so the ameriturd doesn't reply again with ''u mad? XD''.
>>52053504
the dildo in the back ruins it
>>52053601
>Why don't answer that?
Why don't you* answer that?
>>52053572
You literally are more bronzed than the rest of us though. Even you northern mutts.
>>52053366
Real comparisons pls
>>52053650
No one denies that, but the differences are greatly exhaggerated.
>>52053572
>people actually believing that Italians have nothing to do with the Romans
This is the worst because it is the complete denial of our rich ancient history and it's almost baffling how this meme mostly comes from people who actually don't even have a civilized past.
>>52053581
I think you confound Ripuarian Franks who were in actual germany and Salian Franks who where in actual Benelux and France.
>>52053306
Went to Lyon twice. Seems cosy, both with industry and history, like very small historical streets in the city center, le vieux Lyon.
Paris is a megalopolis. I live there. Everything is true about it. Stress, art de vivre, terror, shithole, technological edge, culture and stupidity.
Strasbourg : lived there for a year. Architecture is very germanic (Ordnung and square, extremely classical, like the old Bundestag maybe), very ecological. It's a 500,000 inhabitants city that often seems empty : no cars, few pedestrians. The German culture is widespread. Governments tried to make it a symbolic capital of Europe, half home of the Parliament, home of the National school of administration (the school for Presidents).
Late at night in some little dark streets you can still feel the ghost of fwg.
>>52053572
>>52053771
pic related
>>52053601
Because historically the empire called itself roam and a few obscure references and geographical coordinates do little to change the fact they've been colloquially called the Romans for thousands of years. We still know Rome was in Italy you autist. Cringeworthy dago shit.
Rappel quotidien que la France est grandiose et éternelle.
>>52053769
Even when scandi tan or meds wear blonder wigs you can always tell. I'm genuinely starting to think latins can't really see the difference like we do.
>>52053650
What was your favorite among them? I kind of love Strasbourg, especially the architecture. It's a dream of mine to live there, even if only for a few years.
>>52053504
nice pic
except the Saône or Rhone banks don't seem picnic friendly.
>>52053641
You get used to it tb.h
>>52053783
Yeah, the very first Franks pop up in Roman sources around 2nd-3rd century, they were along the Lower Rhine it seems.
I'm from the Northern Upper Rhine, and we got "converted" or enriched to become Franks a bit later (4th-5th century) but we're genetically a bit darker than Dutchies so I guess we still have some Celt/Gaul genes going on, almost all our cities in the region older than 500AD have Celtic-derived names (Mainz, Bingen, Worms, Alzey...)
>>52053827
>Because historically the empire called itself Roma
No. It called itself Imperium Romanum (Roman Empire) whose founders and romanized inhabitants were native italic people (italians) of the italian peninsula.
Another reminder:
>The Etruscan civilization reached its peak about the 7th century, but by 509 BC, when the Romans overthrew their Etruscan monarchs, its control in Italy was on the wane. By 350 BC, after a series of wars with both Greeks and Etruscans, the Latins, with Rome as their capital, gained the ascendancy by 272 BC, and they managed to unite the entire Italian peninsula.
>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians#Roman_era
Keep cringing.
>>52053808
We wuz kings. Italians haven't been relevant since the Renaissance and have been far surpassed by their western and northern European neighbours.
>>52053947
It depends where but there are better cities for that for sure
I'm in Toulouse and the Garonne banks are pretty comfy
>>52053572
>And then you see people actually believing that Italians have nothing to do with the Romans
I'm 100% neutral in the debate, I've heard a lot of shit, studied some latin, but I've never ever heard this.
So if you're saying this shouldn't trigger anyone, I concur.
But then again, I have no idea about the transition from Rome 496 to Rome's quattrocento. AFAIK, Italian is a form of bas-latin, aka popular latin language.
>>52054074
looks awesome
I went to Toulouse once and slept there, pour passer un concours.
>>52054010
I am going to keep cringing, you're making it easy and still doing it
>>52054070
>We wuz kings
A lot more than that.
> Italians haven't been relevant since the Renaissance
Italy has been relevant since 509 BC.
Pic related, some nice cringe material for you.
>>52053947
The Confluence is pretty comfy
>>52049566
>>52049642
>>52049738
Nordics are Germanic, they're not their own ethnicity
>>52054165
yeah, let's not imagine the price of the houses up there in the hills
>>52054115
Toulouse is pretty good I was in Montpellier before (and in a village before that bit that's irrelevant) and both are student cities but Toulouse is more interesting
>>52054193
People who use haploshits in a serious manner when discussing genetics should just hang themselves (not disagreeing with what you wrote but your pic doesn't prove it at all)
>>52053918
I repeat, there is a difference. A slight difference. You probably enhance it basing on the morphology.
>>52054157
For those barbarian savages, only military accomplishments are relevant. The fact that we have the best and richest culture in the world counts nothing to them.
>>52053932
>especially the architecture
>stalking fwg
nice understatement, m8
>>52054251
Whatever Genghis
>>52054157
>We wuz kaangz and built day colloseeeum n sheeeit
Now you guys deliver pizzas, work as dish washers and work as 3Rd rate dry wall tapers. Italy hasn't been relevant for what, 600 years?
>>52054001
Anyway, I'm not comfortable with the idea of Franks as ancestor or Germany too. To me, Germany as Nation doesn't start with Treaty of Verdun but with Prussia and more specificly with the Treaty of Versaille after you rekt our poor Napoleon III.
>>52054322
No need to get mad just because you're ignorant
>>52053880
Merci l'ami, mais le fait que tu vives au "Canada" prouve hélas le contraire
>>52054216
Kek you are right let's not
They're building all kind of shit there btw
>>52053932
If you want to live in a comfy upper Rhine town, you better choose the smaller ones. Straßburg, Ludwigshafen and Mannheim are overrun with kebabs/dindus, Mainz (my closest city) looks like shit because it was 80% bombed and consists mostly of fugly 50s/60s architecture.
Comfy small towns exist though, like Worms, Oppenheim, Nierstein, Guntersblum...
>>52053932
Strasbourg is bretty gud
>>52054324
>colloseeeum
There's much much more than that, besides, the Colosseo is merely an amphitheatre and 230 of them have been found:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_amphitheatres
>>52054074
j'y suis allé une fois à Toulouse et c'est pas mal, y a de l'activité et architecturallement parlant c'est assez beau mais ça rend mieux en photo qu'en vrai lol. C'est pas ouf non plus.
Mais bon, trop chaud l'été et trop latin pour moi comme pop.
>>52054193
we germanic now
>>52054330
For Germany as a whole I agree, even in this day we're not 100% united and still have great internal cultural and linguistic diversity, to me as a South-Westerner, some places in France, pretty much everything west of Paris and north of Dijon feels more "homey" than East Germany, language aside
>>52054411
>Straßburg
It's Alsace-Lorraine now you haven't heard ?
>>52054324
why are you being a cunt m8?
>>52054357
ok, ok, those banks look nice
pic is where I run in Paris 12th.
It's an old viaduct (wink wink Julius Kaiser) that used to have a train line, between Vincennes and Bastille.
Now it's just for pedestrians (at war with joggers)
>>52054499
Ah come on, you simply don't spell German names in French orthography, that's just... wrong desu. Go all the way and Latinise it and call it something like "Ruechâteau" and I'd be fine with it
>>52054324
>Now you guys deliver pizzas, work as dish washers and work as 3Rd rate dry wall tapers.
What the hell are you blabbering about?
>>52054473
Je préfère Lyon à Toulouse pêh mais après Montpellier (qui est pas mal mais on en fait vite le tour) ça fait du bien
Bordeaux a l'air top par contre
>>52054193
>nortugal
>>52054577
One bbq-bacon pizza with oregano, thanks.
>>52054193
scandinavia is more germanic than "german"y
>>52054614
>italian food is pizza
Ebin
>>52054562
I'm kidding mate, although it's normal for us to latinise the names
>>52054467
>sheeeeeeit nigga we dun live in large dry Mediterranean climate where loads of people can congregate easily with established trade routes to older civilizations n sheeeit rnt we day smartest for applying brick n mortar we so civilized n sheeeit.
>>52054640
And a regular coke to go with it
>>52054649
Seriously?
Dry those tears, c͏uck.
>>52054543
Looks comfy, it reminds me where my grandmother lived (somewhere in Versailles)
Pic related I used to run on this aqueduct in Montpellier
It's illegal, but the gate is easy to jump and once up there no one can see you
>>52054489
It's a pretty much logic feeling actually when you think about it.
Modern Germany is a very (regard to the History) recent construction and it was done on the ruin of HRE who were the biggest clusterfuck of micro kingdoms and city states of the middle age. Moreover, it was not really a cultural unification but more a "forced" unification. First with Napoleon I who dismantled the HRE to make the Rhin confederation, then with Bismarck and modern Prussia. So the cultural and linguistic diversity.
Also all west of Rhine was heavily influenced by France and regularly under our controle since we always considered the Rhine as our Natural border. It's maybe why you feel more homey in France than in some part of Germany.
>>52051667
Sud tirol is austrian clay
>>52054543
>>52054703
>>52054577
I'm calling Italian diaspora the poles of southern Europe
>muh rich history
>ahh yuss massa no more bacon on the pizza massa sorry Germanic overlord sir
>>52054777
>diaspora
I'm here temporarily.
Dry those tears.
>>52054649
yo inbred cûck stfu m8 your insecurities are showing we know that england is a tiny cramped island with shit weather and no beaches and skiing mountains, and only relevant since 1st industrial revolution but stop bitching like a woman pls thanks
>>52054803
Get out of my Canada
>>52054645
I mean unlike Br*ts, we respect the original spelling in our French loanwords, like "Portemonnaie", "Trottoir", "Restaurant" etc., so pls do the same with ours, mkay?
>>52054726
Yeah we can actually somehow thank Buonaparte for firing up German nationalism. We were actually part of your first republic here in the 1790s and it wasn't totally unwelcome among the population, mixed feeling at least. If it hadn't been for said Italian, we'd possibly be part of your cunt right now, who knows
>>52054803
>>52054826
enjoy sunshine brother
>>52054411
>kebabs
Also, black.
Abd al Malik is maybe the most famous rapper from Strasbourg.
He's very TV friendly, as he raps about staying in school.
https://youtu.be/8md-ZX2uimU?t=19
(it's pretty bad, spoken word used to be popular, aka "slam")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al_Malik_(rapper)
>Abd al Malik, born Régis Fayette-Mikano (born 14 March 1975 in Paris)
Régis? In Paris?
>Régis Fayette-Mikano was born in the 14th arrondissement in Paris in 1975, the son of a Congolese high-ranking official living in Paris. When he was just two, the family moved back to Brazzaville, Congo, where they lived from 1977 to 1981. Upon his return to France, he lived in lower income house projects (HLMs) in Neuhof in Strasbourg studying at Collège Sainte-Anne de Strasbourg. After his parents divorced, he lived with his mother in a family of seven children. Despite suffering from dyslexia, he was part of the church choir. Delving for a while in petty street crimes, he was greatly affected by death of some of his friends and immersed himself in reading literature. A school teacher encouraged the young Régis for admission to private schools like the Lycée Notre-Dame des Mineurs, and eventually to Université Marc Bloch with a double major in Philosophy and Classical literature.
"Congolese high-ranking official living in Paris"
fug, they forgot to tell us this...
>>52054756
putain on est doublement on-topic avec les viaducs et aqueducs.
>>52053306
Clichy-sous-bois is pretty cozy I heard
>>52054848
Canada isn't yours anymore and I'll get out as soon as I can since I can't wait to.
>>52054826
Not a brit faggot
>>52054877
Good but you forgot to call me master
>>52054891
>>52054860
>blacks
Yeah that's what I meant by "dindus"
But eh, we're quickly catching up since this year anyway...
>>52054590
Y a Nice aussi où j'ai été mais là c'est plus du tout un endroit pour travailler et vivre, c'est juste une ville balnéaire pour touriste et être en vacances toute l'année.
Des coins super jolis. Bouffe trop bien.
>>52054964
D'accord avec ce que t'as dit sur Nice, c'est comme Monaco on a du mal à se dire "des gens vivent là toute l'année"
Ou comme la Creuse mais ça c'est différent
>>52054920
>master
Who do you think you are? Greece is the grandfather of Europe and Italy is its father, you should fix your daddy issues and call me daddy, little buddy.
>>52054859
I live in Parisian region, perfect weather mate, no sunshine most of the year (i hate sun)
when i want sunshine i go to my second house on the atlantic coast and lay my ass on the fucking beach.
Man this thread is just like watching korean nationalists get mad that northern chinese claim mythical heroes from fucking -5000 BC to be theirs when it's more like can you really say they were korean/chinese ? The question of when does it really start is quite complicated.
Sure there is a link between romans and italians, or gaulois and modern france. But the concept of an italian state or a french state didn't exist at the time and it's thus very different.
As for the italian case i'd argue it's quite different. Italy wasn't unified until relatively recently. You don't see germans going around spewing the same shit italians do. But I guess that's mostly because italy is a failed country and 2000 years old achievements from a different civilization is all they can fall back onto
>>52054590
Pic avec tout cet espace en bord de fleuve me rappelle Londres du côté de Waterloo.
>>52054703
Impressive pic
>>52055117
I played New Super Mario Bros on NDS under that bridge in the middle
>>52055205
chanceux
>>52055168
Here's after the Arc de Triomphe a.k.a the historical center
>>52055041
Come back when Italy controlled the largest most profitable empire of all time with a quarter of the earth's landmass, held over a billion subjects that it extorted, spawned the industrial revolution,America and non corrupt colonies unlike the shithole Italy. All done in a quarter of the time it took you olive niggers Romans. Now fetch my pizza mario
>>52054856
>We were actually part of your first republic here in the 1790s and it wasn't totally unwelcome among the population, mixed feeling at least.
Yeah, it was a complicated era. With the spirit of Revolution, we helped many area to get free of monarchy. And often annexes them next.
That's what happened in west Germany.
Your people were extremely enthousiast about the Révolution, so we came to "help" them. We were first acclamed as liberators until we annexed the area. Suddendly German nationalist everywhere therefor it didn't existe before.
>>52055038
En tout cas ce qui est sûr c'est qu'on bouffe mieux dans le sud de la France que dans le nord.
L'est avec les région champagne ardennes et alsave aussi c'est pas mal.
>>52054856
I love German language. I think it's much better than english because you can say things much more accurately and with more varia&tions without having to create another sentence.
A true white people language, not like english who's just a nigger-tier simple tool.
>>52055083
Shut up Chinaman
>>52055226
Et c'était avec une qt (voyage scolaire de 3ème)
>>52055276
Je ne peux pas te contredire
t. sudiste
Et je vais en Dordogne pour Noel je vais m'en mettre plein la panse
>>52055265
Well the 1790s meant freeing from nobility (even nowadays you can find very many nobility/church-run castle vineyards on the right of the Rhine, but virtually none here on the left) so it was welcome, but Napoleon took it too far and went too uppity, and the March to Moscow of which very little survived gave it the rest, then memories of 1680s boiled up again (Mélac), so it was always a very complicated relationship. But now that we've had no war for 70 years for pretty much the first time since 843, and even French POWs are remembered positively here by the very old ones, at least this problem is out of the way. Too bad we can't get rid of the EU's "dark side", i.e. mass shitskin importation, wonder what that'll lead to the following decades
>>52055363
Eh, standard newsreader German sounds kinda sterile to me as a strong dialect speaker, we are much more vocalic and nasal, probably thanks to the proximity to you. Too bad you killed all your dialects though in the 19th century desu, I like our diversity here
>>52055252
Place de l'Homme de Fer (Eisernemannsplatz) à Strasbourg, hub (!) between the two tram lines.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Place_de_l%27Homme-de-Fer-Strasbourg_%282%29.jpg
>>52055498
Ptain mais en plus ça ressemble au cœur d'Iron Man cette station, peut-être que c'est fait exprès et que c'est évident mais j'allais le dire avant de réaliser que le nom de la place est aussi "Homme de Fer"
>>52055639
>au cœur d'Iron Man
connais pas...
>>52055686
Le réacteur qui fait fonctionner le costume d'Iron Man, celui de Marvel
Donc grosse coincidence
>>52055041
I actually feel bad about all I said, I like italians
>>52055800
It's too late
Words hurt, ya know
>>52055767
C'est peut-être voulu, à ce moment-là
>>52055447
>mass shitskin importation
Merkel fucked up. The fact that you have a low birthrate that threatens your economy just went really bad on her and you started importing niggers en masse to change your population. This is not good at all m8. Very saddened by it still.
>>52049566
>Does this make France wonderful or just autistic?
Wonderful, I'd say. This is exactly why I believe that, if the EU is to succeed (spoilers: it's going to crash with no survivors), France must take a leading role. It is the nation most suited to assume a mediary role between the North and the South, as it incorporates elements from both culturally as well as politically and economically.
>>52053880
>Rappel quotidien que la France était grandiose
FTFY. The way the country is going now proves that it is far from eternal. The way France is today sickens me.
>Inb4 hurr durr Le Pen is going to make anime real!
She's not even going to win two départements in the second round, mark my words. And even if she somehow becomes president, she's not going to reform the system in any meaningful way. That would require another Napoleon, and right now that's much more than France deserves. The only thing modern France deserves is a funeral.
>>52055800
/int/ : Through banter, unity.
>>52055447
>Napoleon took it too far and went too uppity
You always were a treath for France. Many time during the history, HRE tried to invade us or builded coalition against us.
So the harsh treatment. And we were right, you were in all the 7 coalitions and finally strike the coup de grâce during the battle of Waterloo.
Today our relation is a pure artificial construction. We build together the EU from the 50s to avoid any other war between us. In the same time our politician show us the way untill the famous hug and hand holding between Mitterrand and Kohl
>>52055837
C'est quoi le nom de la station ? Je vais chercher s'ils parlent de l'inspiration du design quelque part
>>52055933
homme de fer
>>52055950
J'ai rien trouvé indiquant que ce soit fait exprès, j'ai même cherché le nom de l'architecte pour voir si y'avait un quelconque rapport entre lui et les comics mais que dalle
Donc soit il a fait exprès en secret soit c'est une coïncidence, une bonne pêh
>>52056075
mystère...
un autre truc sympa, c'est voir le changement du nom des places à Strasbourg, comme la place Hitler (place Kleber je crois, juste à côté)
>>52055255
>muh landmass
>muh subjects
Seriously?
>Italy
>Shithole
mfw
>>52055800
>feel bad about all I said
You should and not because it's mean or anything but because you were talking out of your ass.
>>52056163
Italy isn't even a real country tbfh
>>52056281
>coming from a Brit
That's rich.
>>52055843
>The only thing modern France deserves is a funeral.
...
>napoleon
I love him but he was just like caesar and hitler, masterminds here to conquer shit and ended up killing a lot of white people before dying and that's it.
Maybe we're doing not that bad and eventually will overcome our own issues in the end.
>>52056407
>I love him but he was just like caesar and hitler
>Putting him in the same category as Hitler
And then there's this guy.
>Maybe we're not doing that bad
We're literally, LITERALLY, talking about the country that abolished white people.
http://www.afp.com/en/info/3822992/
>>52055843
I really hope one day you europeians finally unify as one country.
>>52056407
>criticizing based Napoopan
>>52056407
>he was just like caesar and hitler
Wow. You should stop postind and grab a book, retard.
>>52056675
Napoleon said himself his inspiration was Caesar, and Hitler said himself he admired Napoleon.
Do you even think about the fact Hitler did the exact same thing than Napoleon by invading Russia?
basic fucking history
feels free to disagree, not even all historians agree with each other.
>>52056873
>Hitler and Napoleon both invaded Russia therefore they're the same
>>52056562
>We're literally, LITERALLY, talking about the country that abolished white people.
>http://www.afp.com/en/info/3822992/
our justice is fucked up and ruled by a group of people who happen to be leftists, because they all come from leftist universities in their law degree. It's a pretty bad generation.
But you know what, they will die one day, none of what they did will stay forever if we don't want to.
>>52056949
they get inspirations from the past conquerors and walk in their footprints, mate. That's how it is
Do you think you wake up one day and be lile "fuck it i'm gonna try to rule europe for no reason"
Empires inspire each other
>>52057103
>inspirations
That's it. They're completely different though. See >>52056675
>>52054590
>>52054165
>>52053504
tiens, en parlant de Lyon,
>Agence Info Libre
>69003, Lyon
je savais pas qu'ils étaient basés à Lyon agenceinfolibre.fr
