One of these people will be the president of the United States.
>>52037486
god old people are disgusting
>>52037486
Voting for Trump since he pisses off both republicans and democrats
you don't have more political parties USA?
Not if both of them die unnaturally before the election.
Hillary is such a shit candidate that they had to put a shittier one competing with her (Trump) to make her look good
>>52039147
Yes, sadly
>>52039001
Can you link the full thing?
>>52037486
hopefully the bitch on the right dies
>>52039324
you need churches then, USA
>>52039324
If Bernie were fucking elected he would die in office within a year, why we always elect and support these old motherfuckers?
>>52039001
>voting for a numbnut because he pisses off two large groups of numbnuts
>>52039147
Just two parties here famfam
>>52039586
>Taking advice from losers that voted for le weed man
>>52039675
kek
I actually like Trump and strongly dislike muslims, but his remarks about not letting muslims into America are retarded as fuck
it was literally a youtube comment section post made by a prospective US president
stop giving the regressive pro-muslim left fuel with this retarded shit
The Dutch media only shows Trump constantly. Everyone believes he's going to win.
>>52039777
>implying you're any different
>>52039874
>>52037486
I can already taste the endless bantz when meme Trump gets elected.
>>52039874
>He's bombing syria
>Yours is praying with them
I'd say they are
>>52039940
>being this gullible
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/07/donald-trump-loves-muslims-if-they-re-rich.html
>>52037486
>Hillary
>realistic chance of winning anything but a stint in Federal prison
Pick uno.
>>52040059
>thedailybeast
kek
>>52040059
and how is that an issue?
>>52040059
>thedailybeast
>>52040059
Trump is an old man and there's only a few things left on his bucket list
I could fully believe in him going all out to get a Presidential inauguration under his belt
He is stepping on so many toes right now
>>52039940
>daddy's money
says the one who took a "small" loan of a million dollars from his daddy
>>52040137
>He is stepping on so many toes right now
mostly on the toes of politicians and media. average people do not particularly disagree with his comments.
>Trump is actually a poorfag compared to most rich people
dash and lilly
![tumblr_ntgd2f7kNc1udbo2eo1_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rcs9bdm.jpg "tumblr_ntgd2f7kNc1udbo2eo1_1280[1].jpg")
he cant be stumped desu
![ap_739575857783[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BAwI52d.jpg "ap_739575857783[1].jpg")
babbys first populist
dude wall lmao!
dude muslims lmao!
make america great again lmao!
Serious question. What has Trump done wrong?
Hillary Clinton is actually probably the best option. A faceless corporate administrator is a lot better than whoever is topping GOP polls. This is what the whole Tea Partier crowd don't realize: it's better to have a competent establishment figure than an impassioned imbecile who wants to talk to Bill Gates to "see what's happening" and "close up the internet in some way."
>>52037486
I understand that the contrarian edgelords are voting for le epic trumpstumper, but who in their right mind would vote for that Hilary cunt? Surely there must be better democratic candidates than her.
>>52040418
>I know nothing about American politics - the post
I'll give you a hint - establishment candidates usually do not win presidential elections. Just as Carter beat Ford and Clinton beat Bush and Obama beat McShame.
>>52040492
>but who in their right mind would vote for that Hilary cunt? Surely there must be better democratic candidates than her.
Their bench is empty like it was for the Republicans in 08. They have no one really.
>>52040401
every negative mexican opinion on trump you should write on the wall.
>>52040492
hillary backed out of the election in 2008 so they could put a black guy in the white house. the deal was she'd be the candidate in 2016 + secretary of state in the obama administration.
>>52037486
Hillary is easily the most competent and qualified despite shit posting to the contrary; Jeb Bush is a distant second, as he has no balls. Clinton at least has them in a metaphorical sense.
Trump is a meme candidate, which is fun, but an unwise choice. Sanders is senile. I think Carson is genuinely autistic.
>>52040418
>A faceless corporate administrator is a lot better than whoever is topping GOP polls. This is what the whole Tea Partier crowd don't realize: it's better to have a competent establishment figure
Except Shrillary isn't a corporate administrator and she's never worked in the private sector in her life.
Also using "competent" and "Hillary" in the same sentence is like lyl.
>>52040401
Do you seriously think he's an imbecile? Trump isn't a genius, but he's smarter than most people and has a better understanding of human behavior than most.
>>52040605
>Hillary is easily the most competent and qualified despite shit posting to the contrary
costanza.jpg
>>52040622
Carly Fiorina "won" the debate.
>>52040605
>Hillary is easily the most competent and qualified despite shit posting to the contrary; Jeb Bush is a distant second, as he has no balls. Clinton at least has them in a metaphorical sense.
"Qualified" is a pretty damn silly metric on which to vote somewhat. What does it actually mean and why should we care? All that matters is leadership experience. There are loads of politicians with political experience that make shit decisions and never give a fuck.
Just because Hillary is "qualified" doesn't mean she would actually act in a fashion that benefited Americans nor matched their desires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJEmBxtFreY
:^)
>>52040645
People always talked about how other branches of the gov impeded Obama's plans. Trump pisses off BOTH Dems and Republicans. What would be the point of having him in office even if he won?
reminder that this is your typical leftist voter
>>52040565
>>52040600
Jesus Christ, then you guys might actually end up with the meme man as president.
baka 2bh family
>>52040605
we should just start electing corporations
i mean they are people right?
The establishment didn't like Reagan either; they wanted GHW Bush in '80. In fact the GOP smoke-filled room boyz have tried to erase him from their official history.
>>52040868
Correct.
If it's good for business, it's good for America.
>>52040815
>People always talked about how other branches of the gov impeded Obama's plans. Trump pisses off BOTH Dems and Republicans. What would be the point of having him in office even if he won?
So you're saying politicians reject or accept proposed plans based on whether they like the president rather than the content of the plan?
How old are you?
>>52040857
Better than Western Europe tbhh
>>52040524
Okay, it could be an issue of reading comprehension. I wasn't speculating who was more likely to win, I was simply saying that establishment candidates from both parties are more competent than their alternatives in 2016. Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are more or less objectively the most capable people to lead the country, and they share the same weakness: personality. From the GOP side, Rubio is a lot more likable, and he's pseudo-outsider because of his Tea Party ties, so he represents another decent option.
But more generally, I don't think this trend can be applied to other elections. Both the Tea Party and Sanders are products of their time. Only Obama is mildly relevant here, since Bernie is pretty much following in his footsteps in terms of a social media campaign and grassroots focus. In short, there's no point in voting for meme candidates like Trump or Ben Carson.
>>52040605
>>52040605
>Hillary is easily the most competent and qualified despite shit posting to the contrary;
How?
She was one of the worst secretary of state we've had in a long time.
How else is she "qualified"?
Because she slept with a president? That's now considered qualification?
Well hell, why aren't we electing Monica Lewinsky?
What qualifications does she have?
>>52040857
Given that the only relevant Democrat candidate now is a senile old idiot who thinks we should be more like Sweden...
>>52040622
She was a partner at a major law firm.
>>52040957
>Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are more or less objectively the most capable people to lead the country
You are basing this on...
>>52040945
You'd be naive to believe that wasn't a factor.
How old are you?
Have you ever interacted with another human being, aside from your mother when she brings you tendies?
>>52040831
>Trump is basically hitler
>So we need to be like Hitler and prevent certain people from voting
>>52041010
And most of the people she worked with at said law firm met with unfortunate "accidents".
>>52040769
>>52041010
nah
>>52040972
>She was one of the worst secretary of state we've had in a long time.
But then none of the SoS we've had going back to Warren Christopher have exactly been competent and didn't completely fuck shit up.
![Obama%20Mexico%20and%20Canada[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/J0d9aiR.jpg "Obama%20Mexico%20and%20Canada[1].jpg")
>>52040645
At what point did I say he's an imbecile? I mean, It doesn't take a genius to fool americans, but Trump definitely has what It takes to get his point across as a politican. My comment was that his platform is that of total populist, aka totally non-feasible and oriented to garner support by hear and heart and not by substance. He is speaking to what apparently every (uneducated) white american is thinking - and I'm pretty sure he knows it. You can't ban a whole ethnicity from your country based on their religion; you can't make another nation pay for a wall in your borders; you can't deport 10 million illegals overnight. International law might not ring a bell to Trump's supporters, but It exists, and Trump can't change that fact.
>>52041065
t-b-h i think the best out come would be a trump president with democrat controlled congress
>>52041134
I guess Colin Powell was ok, the rest have been just...no.
>Christopher
>Albright
>Rice
>Hillary
>Kerry
Talk about a rogue's gallery.
>>52040585
No,this is the work of oaxaquitos/centroamericans
How can Hillary be president from prison?
Oh right, she's above the law. I forgot.
Reminder that General Petraeus, director of the CIA, got 10x the punishment she'll ever face just for leaving a book with notes laying around his house.
>>52041179
There's no such thing as 'international law'.
>>52041197
Only in ObamaWorld can you have a SoS who marched in an antiwar protest with John Lennon and threw away his medals.
>>52041050
>elected to support policy x
>my party supports policy x
>president i don't like creates a bill with policy x
>don't support it because i hate the president
Are you this retarded? Voting decisions are not based on personal feelings. They're based on party, constituents, and lobbyists. If a politician goes against his lobbyists (no monney for election) or his constituents (no votes) he won't have a job next term.
You are retarded for thinking people would block bills simply based on the author.
>>52041043
Bernie Sanders wants to implement socialism in the United States on the basis of the Scandinavian model. The countries he brings up at nearly every interview and event are Norway, Finland, and Sweden. Culturally and economically it's impossible to compare the U.S. and Scandinavian countries, so I don't think he's really serious about his views and is more of a populist candidate.
Trump was already discussed in this thread. Carson has no economic or foreign policy to speak of. Rubio and Jeb Bush are decent, I guess I'd put them on the same level. Ted Cruz is too much of a sleazy populist, especially with the supporting Kim Davis nonsense, though here Mike Huckabee, an even more meme candidate overshadowed him. Rand Paul has a shit foreign policy. I think that's most candidates, and yeah, that's my basis for that.
>>52039425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUBK-y-WbUQ
>>52041179
>international law
That does not apply to America, wetback
>>52041367
>Bernie Sanders wants to implement socialism in the United States on the basis of the Scandinavian model. The countries he brings up at nearly every interview and event are Norway, Finland, and Sweden. Culturally and economically it's impossible to compare the U.S. and Scandinavian countries, so I don't think he's really serious about his views and is more of a populist candidate.
I think he is serious, the guy's just senile and insane.
>>52040418
Hillary is "le weed man" of America.
Probably explains why she is likely to win.
>>52041367
Sanders is a senator of a state with 500k people, no cities, 96% white, and is smaller than the size of Israel.
Why do you think he thinks socialism would actually work?
Because he's massively out of touch with reality.
>>52041426
>Probably explains why she is likely to win
...a ticket to Ft. Leavenworth.
>>52041179
Who would enforce international law on americans? Which country is powerful enough to do so, yet doesn't owe america any favors.
As long as we don't start invading others, America has pretty free reign.
>>52040959
That pic is for ants
![39a[2].gif](https://i.imgur.com/3ysCpOR.gif "39a[2].gif")
>>52041294
>>52041401
>>52041485
Wonderful meme. Surely then "treaties" and intergubernamental organizations are fictional things, and your countries have spent mindlessly billions on dollars on erecting a world order based on codified, "yet non-existent", international law. The TPP is fake! The European Union doesn't exist!
Common, tell me more. I always enjoy supposed first worlders making fool of themselves on topics that require a bit of critical thinking.
>>52040605
Trump is a smart and powerful candidate who is willing to say stupid shit because it gets him through the Establishment dominated primaries.
The guy is not the idiot liberals think he is. He just panders to the anti-establishment (people who don't understand geopolitics) crowd.
I'm okay with him simply because Hillary is anti-white men.
>>52041485
nobody can "enforce" it because US law comes before any foreign laws
it's part of our constitution, m8
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
Bernie for 2016
>Bernie for 2016
>>52041010
Wow another lawyer president!
>>52041542
>>The guy is not the idiot liberals think he is.
This is what really amazes me.
Do they realize there's only about 1500 billionaires worldwide, and he's in the top 100 of them?
Do they think he just stumbled there by chance?
>>52041551
>nobody can "enforce" it because US law comes before any foreign laws
Just like Orban said, "Fuck the UN we're not taking in refugees. Hungary always comes first."
>>52041536
It's not a meme. Couple of years ago Nicaragua won a case against the U.S. in the International Criminal Court. The U.S. ended up ignoring the decision and basically said "the ICC doesn't have jurisdiction."
>>52039147
We do, but they're just for show
>>52041613
>Do they think he just stumbled there by chance?
Anyone who is given 100 million or so can become a billionaire. That's probably what they believe.
The United Memes of America
>>52041613
Yes.
When most Republicans (and Americans) think banning all foreign muslims from entering the US is a rational choice, and most Democrats think that Bush "was a war criminal", you get a spicy combination of idiotic electorates.
>>52041542
I agree that he is not dumb
But he is a populist, a smart one that knows how to pander to his fans
Some of those fans feel pretty dumb though
>>52041804
>>When most Republicans (and Americans) think banning all foreign muslims from entering the US is a rational choice,
you realize that Obama banned all Iraqis from entering in 2011, right?
>>52041804
>When most Republicans (and Americans) think banning all foreign muslims from entering the US is a rational choice
But they don't? I thought Republicans are fed up with Trump.
>>52041930
Cruz + Trump make up over 50% of the total votes in current polls.
Jeb+Rubio don't even break 10%
>>52041839
Not all Iraqis are Muslim.
But thanks for bringing that up. Why does Obama get so little heat from liberals for only letting in 10,000 Syrians by 2016? He only let in 1,500 2011-present.
Obama gets so many free passes from our media it is astounding. Obama has not stuck to even on of his 2008 campaign promises, and only Fox news mentions it.
I agree that restricting all people from Syria, Iraq, or Libya is a smart decision though.
>>52041804
>>When most Republicans (and Americans) think banning all foreign muslims from entering the US is a rational choice,
It is.
Islam should be banned, nobody is forced to be a muslim.
>m-m-muh freedom of religion
So why don't we condone cults then?
>>52039584
FREE STUFF
>>52041426
Hillary's only appeal is her vagina, that's it.
>>52041992
>Not all Iraqis are Muslim.
you're right
it's only 97%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iraq
>>52042029
I really really don't want to picture Hillary's vagina.
>>52042029
>WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE!
>current president of the most powerful country in the world was elected solely because he's black
>presidential candidate solely because she's a woman
>>52041518
Lol almost none of these deaths have anything to with Clinton. Dying in arkansas as a drug runner shouldnt suddenly signal "the clintons did it" in your brain.
>>52041930
Ummmm. Most republicans agree with Trump on banning foreign muslims.
>>52041837
He's gonna pull so hard to the center if he wins the primary. What's his stance on drugs, or abortion, or campaign finance reform? He's playing a game to get there
I'll vote for Trump
>>52042210
Well I'd assume he supports legalizing cannabis since he's a businessman, not a politician
>>52042029
Pic related
>>52042068
Closer to 99% after ISIS.
>>52041804
>Trump says mosques need to be investigated
>France raids mosque
>finds assault weapons, caches of ammo, and ISIS propaganda
http://www.france24.com/en/20151206-ammunition-propaganda-found-after-france-mosque-closure
Trump called it!
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/morning-consult-23281
ESTABLISHMENT ON SUICIDE WATCH
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-top-ted-cruz-second-hillary-clinton-over-bernie-sanders/
>>52040831
>having the Prais Peace sign after the Paris massacre
>promotes using force against those with a different opinion
>calls him a fear mongering
>wabting to kill others because his afraid theyight vote for someone
>calls others Hitler and Goebbels
I don't even.....
>>52039324
hahahaha
>>52042210
That's his game plan. Win the primaries and then moderate some.
It might actually work if he apologizes for some of his comments, just a few. He might get some moderates to jump ship.
>>52042390
Leftists like this on the internet are /pol/ if it was liberal.
>>52042390
>>52040831
/pol/ got this person removed from ACLU because they tweeted it a bunch to donald and he retweeted it to news agencies
http://gazette.com/aclu-board-member-resigns-after-facebook-post-about-shooting-people-who-would-vote-for-trump/article/1565495
>>52037486
Trump will win, he'll be president for 8 years.
My question is who will be the Lib we get after him?
>>52042517
Trump after he declares he will be emperor for life
>>52042517
Trump Jr.
>>52042390
You don't even know
>>52041536
In what courts are these laws upheld?
>>52042733
ICCCJ
>people who unironically think the DNC has a chance at winning the general election after nonstop blunders
>completely alienating the white voterbase and then putting a nail in that coffin by screwing Jim Webb over
>supporting BLM
>not supporting cops
>Obamacare raising the healthcare premiums for basically everyone over $30k/yr income by 50-150% despite obama saying nothing would change
>Complete mishandling of the middle east
>Obama nearly instigating a racewar, race relations are the worst they've been since before civil rights according to Pew
Democrats are about to get a real hard lesson on why minorities are called the minority.
>>52042759
which the u.s. ignores at will.
it's so funny to see how many hard leftist are in america.
>>52042830
That's because we don't need it.
The /int/ Court was created for failed states who can't maintain their own laws and have an uneducated populace or lack proper police etc.
>>52041310
>Mitt Romney creates the Affordable Care Act
>republicans like it
>rename it Obamacare
>republicans hate it
>>52042941
These are the same people that will claim that american left is really center global.
>>52042819
It won't happen. There are plenty of fanatical whites, especially young whites, who will keep the DNC afloat no matter what.
>>52042941
>posted by fucking France
>>52043007
You realize the GOP's massive win last year was fuelled entirely by white male voter turnout, right?
https://politicalwire.com/2014/11/06/white-men-were-the-decisive-vote/
pro-tip:
young people don't vote.
>>52041536
All you have to do is google "America and international law" to see how wrong you are
>>52042987
yes
>>52040672
Got you family
>>52042168
And people imprisoned in the gulags maintained that Stalin didn't know about them either and he'd do something if he only knew.
I really can't imagine a USA under Trump
I'll vote for him, and I hope he wins, but I just can't see it happening
He's so hated. Pure venomous hate from libtards shitposting on social medias for months
He's been the central go-to joke for many TV shows for months
His platforms feel too radical for the public to go for, compared to Hilary "My term will basically be an extension of what you've seen from Obama" Clinton or Bernie "#BlackLivesMatter #economy?lol! #420" Sanders
I wish it happens, I really do, but i just don't think it will
>>52040080
cant she pardon herself when she becomes prez?
>>52043020
France put FN as the first political party in the country last week.
eat shit nigger
>>52043197
Chill, just because they click shit online doesn't mean they actually vote
the interwebs have skewed you perspective
>>52037486
how come minorities (i mean majorities) will vote on them?
>>52043197
>He's so hated. Pure venomous hate from libtards shitposting on social medias for months
>He's been the central go-to joke for many TV shows for months
>His platforms feel too radical for the public to go for, compared to Hilary "My term will basically be an extension of what you've seen from Obama" Clinton or Bernie "#BlackLivesMatter #economy?lol! #420" Sanders
all this shows is how liberal dominated american media is, and they don't even realize it
we have one right-leaning news network and it's constantly made fun of/called a joke, how many major leftist media outlets are there?
CNN is often considered unbiased or "center" politics when it has a massive leftist bias
>>52043230
Let me know how that changes things.
>>52043280
minorities vote democrat because democrats give them free shit
>>52043338
you really are a dumb nigger
>>52043316
We have two right-leaning news networks.
CNN IS unbiased, if you don't believe me watch MSNBC for the evening.
>World economy on the brink of collapse
>Asians literally polluting themselves to death
>Europe invaded by millions of Muslims and governments doing nothing/making it worse
>Terrorists everywhere
>Psychotic Islamist state picking a fight with everyone
>A gigantic "civil" proxy war in Syria
>Murricah siding with some of the worst sons of bitches of all time, throwing weapons to anyone, anywhere
>Oil price collapsing
>Russia fighting a foreign war (two, in fact) while their economy implodes
>Same for Saudis
>Turkey (a NATO member) shooting down a Russian plane
>Turkey has troops in northern Iraq
>Iraq is asking Russia to do something about that
>And Donald fucking Trump could be the next president of the United States of America
WAKE ME UP FROM THIS UNENDING NIGHTMARE!
It's amazing how divided USA can be
>>52043462
>CNN IS unbiased,
they're pretty biased. just not as biased as other leftist news networks.
>>52043502
only a good BBC cûckold porn can unite them under one flag now, they al love that shit
>>52043493
>oil price collapsing
I don't see this as a bad thing for most civilized nations.
>>52043197
I'd vote for Bernie in a heartbeat. Those are some good ideas, for the most part. Haven't heard any good ideas like that from Trump.
>>52043493
What is wrong with Trump?
>>52043605
Bernie is delusional.
His policies will only work in a tiny country that is pure white so everyone has the same thoughts.
>>52043462
>>CNN IS unbiased
Project for Excellence in Journalism, Oct. 29th 2007
40.5% of CNN coverage of Republican-related material is negative, 13.5% is positive
23.2% of CNN coverage of Democrat-related material is negative, 27.2% is positive
In a joint study conducted by the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University and the Project for Excellence in Journalism, the authors found disparate treatment by the three major cable networks of Republican and Democratic candidates during the earliest five months of presidential primaries in 2007: "The CNN programming studied tended to cast a negative light on Republican candidates – by a margin of three-to-one. Four-in-ten stories (41%) were clearly negative while just 14% were positive. 77% of the stories related to Obama were positive in comparison.
>CNN
>unbiased
you're brainwashed
>>52043056
>>52043605
No they're not. Our government is extremely shitty. Letting them take care of health care, pension (social security), and other socialist policies is a bad idea. For every dollar that goes towards health care, the american people would be lucky to receive $0.25.
A $15/minimum wage would kill small business and leave many people unemployed. Most Americans see no reason for nationalized health care. And social security needs to be trashed.
Americans benefit from less government and a lower tax rate than they do from a retarded nanny trying to run a nationalized healthcare system.
>>52043585
But the Saudis
>>52043719
But why not let him try to make improvements?
Having lofty goals is good. Even if you can't go the whole way, even small steps can be blessings
>>52040605
>Hillary is easily the most competent and qualified despite shit posting to the contrary
and i thought Americans being dumb was a meme
>>52043790
What improvements?
His policies are literally "FREE SHIT!" with no explanation of how to pay for it.
>>52043790
>>52040868
>implying this isn't already what basically happens
>>52043719
His shit isn't working in Finland, at least not anymore. Nothing can be reformed because the unions are threatening with strikes.
>>52043612
Us Finns know very well what happens when poor people vote for rich populist
>>52043790
Of course Sweden would like bernie "prep the bull" sanders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPh-1bsye-0
>>52043732
>implying they wouldn't use KIK or Snapchat to vote.
>muh fone
>>52043886
>Nothing can be reformed because the unions are threatening with strikes.
reminder that 9/10 of Bernie's largest donators are unions
>>52043930
progress?
>>52043930
>they're all rich
>my rich candidate is better than your rich candidate
>>52043886
They are threatening with strikes so your mail will be delivered by white people instead cheap black slaves that can't read in the future as well
>>52044043
this
isn't hillary worth like $200m or something?
Trump will win the gop but that means shillary will win... the world is fucked
This: America's last chance for a wise and decent leader.
>>52043790
>But why not let him try to make improvements?
Because of recorded history. Because government intervention has almost always led to negative outcomes for everyone.
>Having lofty goals is good. Even if you can't go the whole way, even small steps can be blessings
And this is exactly what people who believe in communism or central planning say. And you know how that's worked out.
Americans would benefit more from a 10-15% tax rate and no social security, no universal healthcare, than they would from a higher taxes and government programs with bulky bureaucracies.
>>52042963
Republicans liked it?
>>52044047
If it only was so simple, you fucking tool.
>>52044110
Trump and Clinton probably have views that are more similar than you realize, and few would mean anything to a frog.
>>52044151
Pretty sure to be a president you need to be able to see over the podium
>>52043585
Hmm did you know what the Western shale boom is?
>>52044159
But what happens to the poor people then?
>>52043719
This.
Plus, his policy proposals would just increase government spending and debt.
Ideas like free college tuition are nice, but meaningless if you can't pay for them.
>>52044151
pics of his rallies make me feel sad
>>52044332
They pick themselves up by their boot straps and stop being poor. Or they die. Either way it works well for everyone else.
>>52044104
Probably more than that now.
She is old, rich, powerful, and white. Diversity!
>>52044151
If he's so good why there isn't any memes of him
>>52044332
What happens to the middle class if you keep taxing them when it's already shrinking?
>j-j-just tax the ultra-wealthy
yeah goodluck with that
>>52044383
Seems like a good recipe for a country where people are enemies of each other.
>>52043502
It's pretty sad actually, it's never been this bad.
I really wish the two poles of the political spectrum in this country were just exterminated.
>>52044332
>But what happens to the poor people then?
They are only taxed 10-15% and can do with their money as they wish. They can invest in community college, learn a trade, etc. The absolute poor will be able to find homeless shelters and some support.
I'm not against government support. There are times when it benefits everyone. I simply think the benefits end with homeless shelters, employee training, and skills/jobs training.
>>52044443
>Randlet Paul
>No memes
>>52044448
yeah you're probably right
hey just curious
how many hand grenades have gone off in Stockholm this year?
>>52044383
>nice meme
You are free now bubba. Now pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
Oh you don't have a job because only white people have money and land and the economic system is based upon farming?
Come work for me. I'll pay you 10 cents a day.
We must lower government debt at all cost. that should be the single goal of the next presidency.
>>52044448
That's legitimately what this country was in the 1800s and 1900s. Do you think irish and italian immigrants had welfare or minimum wage?
>>52044468
>I really wish the two poles of the political spectrum in this country were just exterminated.
Believing that people should be killed for their views is rather... extremist.
>>52044512
You could save 5 cents a day to better your life if you didn't spend it all on drugs
>>52044468
What you need, is another tragedy or sports championship
>>52044512
why the fuck are you using the reconstruction era as an example?
>>52044532
hey, I just wanted to let you know
libertarianism was never serious
it was just a meme
>2015+1
>there are people who haven't read The Art of the Deal
>>52044500
How the fuck would I know? I know there's been zero terrorist attacks and zero school shootings. One school... Stabbing, though. The edgelord. "Hey, I hate immigrants, better go and stab some kids to death..."
How come all the good candidates are never in the runoff? I have to choose between LITERAL SOCIALISM (or more Obama, if it's Hillary) and an idiot that appeals to the most surface of surface dwellers. Kasich is good, Paul is good, Rubio is good (my ideal candidate as of now), hell even Bush is good, but why the fuck is it always "Carson vs. Trump"? They're basically guaranteeing a Democrat in office, and the worst two possible Democrats at that. One even killed a shitton of Americans with her stupidity (see: Benghazi).
Fuck this shitty country.
>>52044564
J-just the tips! Come on, you know it wouldn't make things worse.
>>52044633
>How the fuck would I know?
Oh that's right, Swedish media channels censor it. Whoops.
It's 47 as of September if you were curious.
47 hand grenade attacks in one city, in less than a year.
>>52044448
It's the opposite.
Instead of settling for welfare and shit, holing up in your little ethnic enclave, smoking pot and removing yourself from the general economy and workforce, you are forced to integrate and start networking with the general population, shit gets done, profit unites people.
Honestly, this is a big reason why you are going to be in for some shit as your big "refugee" population sticks to themselves and fail to integrate. Enjoy the next 30 years.
>>52044653
And how do you determine whether someone holds an extremist view?
Who is the omniscient and objective being that gets to make such a decision?
>>52044635
>>52044151
I agreed until you said Rubio was good. He's an aimless Chad.
>>52044635
>hell even Bush is good,
I'm so sorry, you have the stupid.
>>52044740
I think that's all we need right now. Presidential meddling hurts our society/economy.
>>52044635
Rubio from what I read likes to change opinions when it's convenient
>>52044690
Okay 47. Nobody ever suggested Sweden is a serene country where there is no crime. Even the sun has spots. So I don't see what your point is.
>>52044564
>Believing that people should be killed for their views is rather... extremist.
Oh, that's just typical leftist thought.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/12/aclu-colorado-board-member-resigns-threatening-shoot-trump-supporters/
>>52044781
>Rubio
>not meddling
m8...
he's spent more on his ad campaign than he actually owns.
He's a politician for sale.
>>52044500
>attacks Rand Paul
>forced to use ad hominem BS because there is nothing legitimate to say about this fine candidate and citizen.
Nice, I like how fanatical Trump supporters are getting. Apparently all you have to do is act like an ass to gain a fan base, on 4chan at least/
>when someone from a racially homogeneous country with 5 million people total tries to tell you how american politics should work
The next 10-25 years are going to be so amazing.
Smug eurofucks are going to get everything they deserve.
>america is just SO racist! Us Europeans are just so much better, ignore the millions we killed with colonialism and the fact that our countries are all 98% white
>o-o-oh you mean we have to take a few thousand refugees? Well, fuck, time to start going full nationalist!
>>52044741
He knows his shit and I agree with a lot of what he says
>>52044805
He's stated consistent throughout the debate, the only changes he's made have been over long periods of time, which are fine.
>>52044740
>aimless
Just because he doesn't yell about change like an idiot doesn't mean he doesn't know what he wants to change. He's made his stances on the second ammendment, immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. very clear.
>Chad
Do /r9k/ memes seriously affect the way you vote for politicians? For the love of God, please be underage.
>>52044893
Being rude is the new hotness, because people have abandoned the love of Christ
>>52044635
Fuck off, Karl Rove.
>>52044985
>and I agree with a lot of what he says
I'm sure you do
https://youtu.be/D-nfueovttc
>>52044844
All politicians are whores, he says correct shit so he's the best candidate. Go ahead, look for an altruistic candidate (other than Rand Paul, who's not getting anywhere in the polls). When you find none, you'll understand how American politics work.
Hold your nose and vote, for at least 20 years now.
I wonder what the actual global ramifications of Trump as president would be
just how much power does a president actually have anyways?
>>52045020
He has been Hispkeked.
I make no excuses.
I'm voting for Trump because he's an alpha male.
He destroys every single adversary, he goes right for the throat. He takes no bullshit. Trump inspires me to be a greater person.
Trump retweeted one of my tweets and it made me feel like I could believe in myself because Trump believed in me.
>>52045101
He doesn't mean to do 80% of what he says
he knows the only way to win the Presidency in his case, as a political outsider, is to do what he does best: generate controversy and in the process corner a loyal voting base
Nationalists have had no champion for a while now and he's filling the role for them
>>52045179
That's not what should inspire you to be greater person. Read New Testament, Jesus is what you should use as role model. You will just look like a clown, a nerd who tries to be "alpha".
>>52045020
As if Trumps "deport all Mexicans" campaign will actually go anywhere.
We have checks and balances for a reason.
Believe me, I agree, we have too many illegal immigrants and keeping them here with no punishments, but rather BENEFITS, is complete retard-tier. So-called "safe cities" where immigrants can't be arrested (they actually do exist and are protected by US law) are like something straight out of The Onion. However, no matter who's elected, none of that shit will change dramatically. Maybe a little, but not a lot.
>>52045007
Who tf is Karl Rove
>>52045179
>Trump has the r9k vote
oh merciful lord what have we done
>>52045280
He is a Beta that proved he could Alpha with the best of them.
Why wouldn't you vote for the savior?
>>52045251
still I wonder what'll happen once he eventually has to be diplomatic with the likes of Putin
>>52037486
Trump will never move beyond his base. He's got the white, angry and stupid vote down solidly, but no one else will ever vote for him.
Swing voters decide elections, and no moderate will ever support Trump.
Since we now understand why a Democrat will undoubtedly win in 2016, the question is who is worse: Hillary or Bernie?
>>52037486
so it's down to retards? you are out of sane candidates?
>>52045342
Probably be very good at it?
He's a businessman, you don't think he's good at negotiating?
As far as I understand, the tough Trump thing is mostly just an exterior and behind closed doors he's actually very kind/soft-spoken.
>>52045253
>protestant scum trying to speak for Christianity
Fuck off Pekka, go read the actual Bible. Sola Scriptura is a fucking meme that is literally as utopian as Marxism, and Sola Fide works in concept but leaves so many holes in the fabric of morality. Faith alone does NOT count towards heaven points, faith and application of that faith based on the scriptures does.
>>52045342
He's a businessman so he can sweet talk or play hard ball with the best of them
Obama on the other hand is merely an orator with no backbone
>>52045352
>and no moderate will ever support Trump.
Trump is beating Hillary in Pennsylvania.
>>52045362
Eh, Bernie is OK but his economic policy worries me. I really like him on everything else though. I don't think I could actually vote for him because of his economics though. It's a shame, I really like the guy.
>>52045342
This is why we need Rand Paul in the hot seat. Paul can handle Putin.
Trump would probably make a deal that actually hurts the US.
>>52045430
Surely you jest. Source?
Also, polls aren't that reliable. People will
>>52045413
Christianity is following Christ, I don't belong to any church. Actual Bible? Sorry I'm not a Jew if that's what you meant.
>>52045435
>I really like him on everything else though.
I know people think Trump will alienate a lot of moderates but honestly this guy could easily galvanize a large portion of the electorate to actually come out and actively vote for him (or against Clinton)
>>52045441
Paul would just let putin do as he pleases though, as long as he wasn't threatening a US ally that Paul was bound by treaty to defend, which is highly unlikely anyways.
>>52045470
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_PA_101515.pdf
Trump is much closer to being moderate than Hillary or Sanders are.
Biden or Webb would have swept house though.
>>52045484
this
Trump actually appeals to a lot of moderates, Clinton is way off in left field
I just want to see Trump absolutely manhandle Clinton debates after she's been babied in the last few Democratic "debates" (read: circle jerks)
He is going to go in and she is going to be left anxiously shaking there with that annoying as fuck forced smug smile on her face
>>52045513
Perfect
>>52045540
>I just want to see Trump absolutely manhandle Clinton debates after she's been babied in the last few Democratic "debates" (read: circle jerks)
DNC debates were fucking horrible
was literally a game of who can promise more free shit and bigger open borders
The only good one was the one with Webb until they decided to flat out ignore him. He was actually insanely popular for essentially being unheard of prior.
>>52045470
WTF why did that post? Anyway I was saying that polls are biased by their selection (people actually willing to answer polls) and it's been shown that people often vote differently than they answer in the polls.
When it comes down to it, even some of his supporters in the polls will likely defect because they worry about his extreme positions. We see similar things happen with black politicians. People will say they support them because they don't want to look racist, then vote for someone else in the privacy of the polling booth.
>>52045441
>Trump would probably make a deal that actually hurts the US.
Do you actually think Presidents themselves make deals? And not their army of advisors ajd academics? At the very best most president negotitiate terms and decide when to compromise/not compromise.
I'd bet good money that it's very rare for a president to come up with new material or draft a bill. Economists and military advisors will tell them "y is a bad decision, z is our best option but they wom't accept it, so x is most likely." The president will then say "I want something like x" and am advisor can draft it up from them.
>>52044164
Yes
t. lived in Mass 2009- 2013
>>52045435
whatever you do do not let the satans fluffer win!
hilary is not exactly the devil but the closest thing to it on earth.
>>52045535
I've seen Trump's stated positions, and you're right that many are downright reasonable.
But he's shown many many many many many times that what he says can't be trusted, and that he has no idea what he's doing. I just don't see moderates supporting him.
>>52045540
>"This is why your husband cheated on you"
>"Benghazi shows otherwise"
There's so much room for potential banter bombs.
>>52045593
pic
>>52044164
>>52042963
original ACA was also much, much different until it got heavy changes by the hands of people who work for/own insurance companies
>>52045478
So? I'm all for gun rights but I don't think people need access to fully automatic machine guns and body armor. That's taking it too far.
>>52045593
that fucking Virginia governor, O'Malley or whatever his name is, was a total fucking shill
obviously planted there to pat Clinton on the back and play "good candidate" for her to Sanders "bad guy" role (which still turned out to essentially dicksucking)
>Well Ms. Clinton I think we're all tired about hearing about your e-mails!
>raucous applause
"Well Mr. Nixon I think we're all tired about hearing about your wiretaps!"
>>52045540
Republican debates have basically been some of the most fired-up political debates I've seen in my life tbqh. You can tell the candidates are just exhausted by the end.
The DNC ones are fucking hilarious in comparison.
>>52045784
meanwhile
>Webb: WE'RE ALIENATING THE WHITE VOTE GUYS THIS IS BAD
>NO SHUT UP WEBB ITS OK
>>52045435
>so it's down to retards?
>no, hungary, you've forgotten the greatest retard of them all
