Why do Anglos pronounce "Europe" as "Yurop"? Why is the Greek digraph "Eu" pronounced as "yu" of all fucking sounds?
bump you lousy maggots
this is /int/-related and not a yellow face with a shit text about australians for a change
My theory is those barbarians didn't know how to pronounce it when they first read the classics :>
>>52029104
Well, in original Greek (by this I mean the one from which the word was borrowed) that was simply two vowels e+u, right? In modern Greek it's "ev", if I'm not mistaken?
It's still written eu (ευρώπη). It's written like that in english too. That reminds me of the irony that my name Michael is written more properly in English than in modern Greek (Michalis) but pronounced wrongly there (Michael instead of "Mee-cha-eel").
>>52028773
Because there was a vocal shift in the English language. One might imagine the sound drifted from an "eu" towards an "iioo", and from that the two vocals merged into one.
>>52029104
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotacism
>In Modern Greek the letters and digraphs "ι", "η", "υ", "ει", "οι", "ηι", "υι" are all pronounced "i", [i].
dont you be talking shit
>>52028773
From Greek to Latin, no problems.
From Latin to French, no problems.
From French to English...
It's the same problem you can see with people pronouncing the letter "Þ" as if it were a "Y"
"þe olde shoppe" =/= "Ye olde shoppe"
>>52029317
Greek is not the global language.
>>52029356
So it came from Greek to English via Latin and French?
Well, Latin has a pretty simple pronunciation, but could it be the French language that fucked it up?
>>52029299
If that "e" was more like [e] instead of [ɛ] we have in Polish, then I admit, this is actually quite logical.
>>52029317
υ is not pronounced ee when it's after an ε. It's pronounced ef.
>>52029669
I mean both of them are pronounces like that. Hence the word europe, ευρώπη, is pronounced Evropee.
>>52028773
and why is Europe = Yurop, but Europa = Auropa eh?
>>52029725
Yeah, which explains how Russians pronounce it, but we in the west were borrowing these words from Latin, from classical Greek I think.
Back then it was simply Europe, literally as written, instead of Yurop or Evropee.
This triggers my autism. I wish someone fixed English spelling.
>>52029821
Europa is Europa, not Auropa. It's pronounce with E followed by U. Literally [ɛu]. Avrupa is how Turks pronounce it, I think.
>>52029821
Because the words are stressed differently. I can't speak for Norwegian, but in Swedish we pronounce the eu in "Europa" like "eu", but like "ev" in "Euro".
