Is there any elitism among "pure" Spaniards in Latin America towards the "non-pure"/native ones?
Like, for example, if you bring a "non-pure" gf to your parents will they take it badly or something?
>>52019402
There is in weird specific sects of the Hispanic population but it's not very common. I think it's only prevalent in Bolivia and Argentina.
protip: a Spaniard isn't consiered fully white by Europe
maybe you meant a blonde German Southern Brazilian girl bringing back home a mestizo subhuman from squalor?
Yes. The pure bred Moors don't date natives/mestizos unless they convert to Islam.
>>52019402
There is no such thing as pure spaniards here
>>52019462
kekked
>>52019475
>"w-we're totally not white, I swear!"
>>52019402
No, there is not, specially when Spaniards are not even the biggest ethnic/racial groups of European origin in most of Latin America. I think is easier to find a pure Pole here than a Spaniard.
Then again, no one would consider themselves "Spaniards" here, they are one of the groups alongside Amerindians and Blacks who are considered "really native".
>>52019445
>I wake up to this reminder
>>52019540
0% white indeed
some people are born with caucasian aesthetics but the native blood is still there
>>52019475
I am a pure spaniard Mexican. all my family is white.
yes greek, here in Mexico, indians live in the streets, and white mexicans have the highest jobs, and they are tv actors.
>>52019462
>>52019526
t.paco ramirez.
>>52019692
Spaniards are bien in spain, you are nopalero like the rest of us, just less brown but still have el nopal en la frente
>>52019402
Y'see, what really makes you "pure" or "non-pure" is your money rather than your heritage. If you're from the upper class and bring a guy who looks like he doesn't buy clothes that often to your parents, then you're in trouble. The Latin American population is mostly a mishmash of different nations/bloodlines, so trying to go for "pure" may make you spend quite some time alone.
>>52019904
No, I am different than most indians. We the criollos are way different, thats why we rule this country. Its like in the US, whites are different than blacks.
>>52019692
I don't know about that, Pedro, my family are indio as hell and are easily in the top 1%-5%. Ladinos are funny.
>>52019970
Also, maybe it's a thing that mostly prevalent here, but bringing home a foreigner (of whatever class) can also get you weird looks, but not as much
>>52019445
neither are slavs for that matter including the blonde ones
>>52020009
CHI
We the full spaniard mexicans are better than dirty indians. thats why we rule this country. The whites live in the North, and west Mexico. In Mexico city there are a lot of them, and they are the fresas and rich.
>>52020053
Not really. I'm like 5th gen American and don't consider myself Mexican at all. We just still keep in contact with extended family in Mexico and I get to go there for work often so see them regularly.
>>52020090
>>52019996
Are you the Mexico is white guy?
>>52020163
no, I am not aridoamerican
>>52020090
>West Mexico
>Good
>>52020227
hahahahaahhaha Sinaloans are white, but retarded. Jalisco is white and smart.
>>52019692
>greek
>white
Do people actually believe this?
I go to Greece every year and maybe 1 in 50 people would pass as white there.
>>52020299
Jalisco is pretty mixed. It has a 60/40 white/brown split. I'd say Sonora is a better example of a smart white state.
>>52020299
Why the fuck is Quintana Roo so smart? Aren't they some kind of swampy jungle?
>>52019402
Even if someone is white in Latin America, chances are their heritage is an European mix anyway. Pure anything may do this but only if they're rich and snobbish but it's not common at all.
>>52020377
because Mayans lived there.
>>52020299
Sonorans emigrate to my state Chihuahua. The master race state is Nuevo Leon.
>>52019692
kek
órale ándale ándale
>>52020377
You're thinking of Campeche. Lot of smart and wealthy from all over the entire south go to Quintana Roo to profit on the hospitality industry and enjoy the high living standards. They're a very wealthy state because of this and put a lot of that money into education. It's heavily Maya too and they put a lot of focus on intelligence like Asians so that influences the general mindset too.
the IQ of Chihuahua is low because the most uneducated people of Mexico are emigrating here.
But we are more white, specific in Chihuahua city.
Juarez is poor of southern indian apes, illiterate buchones from Sinaloa, and ugly Torreon.
>>52020639
Chihuahua was never a good place m8. The whites there were always retarded inbreds and the indians are all the tards who were so stupid that they couldn't scrape together a living in their village in Oaxaca.
>>52020706
If Chihuahua is not a good place, why we have a lot of southern immigration. LMAO
>>52020753
Because Oaxaca is an even worse place. That's like comparing puke to diarrhea.
Why do you always put Brazil?
I've never seen a real Native American in my life.
>>52020799
not only Oaxacan, chilangos, veracruzanos, sonorenses, torreonenses, zacatecanos,etc. LOL
>>52020857
>unironically defending Chihuahua
>>52020894
even deported wetbacks comes here to kill people.
In what Mexican state did you was born? or your parents.
Brazil is not "spaniard" because Portugal colonised us,but i'm gonna anwnser because you added on map.
No,desu we're very racist,but the difference is that the definition of black people have some particularities here,a lot of mixed people (e g. Pardos) are not considerated blacks
>pic: mixed guy,a typical pardo with some European aesthetic,he's pass for a "white" in Brazil,but not in Poland
But seriously,the real elitism is for your financial situation,rich don't interact with poor
>>52020948
>did you was born
I was born in Michigan. My parents were born in Michigan. Their parents were born in Texas and Illinois. I have extended family from DF and Jalisco. Are you from Jalisco?
>>52021020
cmon Brazil, Portugal and Spain are the same Iberian race. Brazilians and Latinos are the same.
>>52021095
no.
Spaniards?
Natives?
I only see Brazilian Natives in photos.
>>52021108
>Brazil is the same as Portugal and Spain
>Is there any elitism among "pure" Spaniards in Latin America towards the "non-pure"/native ones?
Most states don't even have real natives to begin here.
>>52021175
Brazil has a lot in common with Portugal, like the religion, european race, an Iberian language, the food,etc. If you go to Ouro Preto, you will think that you are in Portugal.
>>52021252
I don't think so. Portugal is not the only European heritage here.
>>52021108
I considere myself as a latino,but this is not a common sense because we don't share the same spanish culture and language
>>52021296
I know I have a gaucho friend that has ukranian and german ancestry.
>>52021301
You shouldn't.
Threads like this show how different they are.
>>52021252
Yes,Minas Gerais has a lot of historical cities with European architecture
>>52021301
Você realmente acha que esse tipo de thread se aplica ao Brasil?
Brasileiros ficam boiando aqui.
>>52021381
Mexico and Brazil has a lot of similarities.
the religion
sao paulo and mexico city twins
the soccer
beaches and happy persons
A friend from Rio grande do sul lives very happy in Mexico, and he consider it a new Brazil.
>>52021487
Sem dúvida essa é a pior forçação esquerdista.
>>52021534
You don't, sorry. You can see natives everywhere. You just like any Spanish American country try hard to copy Spain and so on
Brazilians from /int/ only see real natives in photos.
>>52021639
no man, Native Americans are a 9% here.
They dont live in cities, they live in mountains.
You have never lived in Mexico, like my brazilian gaucho friend.
I asked him once, What did you think of Mexico before coming here, he told me that all with aztec pyramids and native americans LOL
He hates dilma and brazil, he prefers Mexico.
>>52019541
>rare fleg
>>52021784
There are a shit load of indians in Mexican cities. What are you going on about? Merida is like 60% Maya. DF has huge amounts of indigenous too.
>>52021955
they arent totally indian, they are mestizos.
Yo lo que te puedo decir es que aca no quedo ningún indio, los mataron a todos a los pobres charruas, y los que no mataron se los llevaron a Francia a exhibirlos como animales. Y encima algunos tienen el tupe de cada vez que juega la selección de llamarse a si mismo "chaurras", vergüenza debería darles, degenerados hipócritas. Dicho esto, de que se trataba el thread che?
>>52022063
No, the indians in Merida are definitely indian. A lot in most central cities are too. Do you live in some type of bubble?
>>52022148
I live in Mexico, you don't. Mexico is mostly mestizo and WHITE.
indians are a MINORITY HERE.
>>52022067
no sabes la envidia que me das yorugua.
Los indios son seres infrahumanos y sucios, que el hambre no les da para trabajar.
>>52022202
>I live in Mexico, you don't. Mexico is mostly mestizo and WHITE.
I'm in Mexico about 1/6th of the year and can say even with that small amount of time there that that is fully and totally bullshit of the highest caliber. Pure Indians are a minority at 16% and pure whites are a minority at 14%. Mestizos dominate. Any other statement is a fallacy. Indians are no rarity in Mexico by any measure, certainly not in central and southern cities.
>>52021554
Só porque eu me considero latino eu sou de esquerda??deixa de ser paranóico
>>52022464
Do you know Spanish, right?
I am not lying. Mestizos, then WHITES, and indians are a minority here.
Mexico was in 1810 mostly indian.
En el momento de independizarse casi la mitad (45 %) de la población total de México era indígena,2 sin embargo debido a la castellanización y la violencia contra poblaciones indígenas, etc. que se impuso en el país muchos indígenas fueron perdiendo sus lenguas y a la vez su identidad, este proceso causo que los indígenas se redujeran de un 45 % a principios del siglo XIX a un 35 % en 1889, el proceso continuo y de 35 % se redujo a 30 % en 1921, y a solo 8 % en el 2000.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupos_étnicos_de_México
>>52021381
>>52021301
kek more special snowflakes. i understand that br doesnt interact much with the rest of latin america, but the similarities dont stop at just sharing iberian culture
>>52022307
No puedo decirte que si o que no porque en realidad no conozco a ninguno, pero lo que paso acá fue una matanza y fijate que al que organizo todo para matarlos (Fructuoso Rivera) le hicieron un monumento que esta afuera de la terminal Tres Cruces de Montevideo. No digo que no haya hecho otras buenas por la patria pero...
>>52022307
Bueno pero no te enojes
>>52022764
Ok so tell to me others similarities besides i cited
>>52022648
That simply goes by speakers of indigenous lanauges, not by race. Most indians cannot speak their language due to source mentioned anti indian programs and violence. I would also, by default call into question the validity of anyone's argument once they call said ethnic group subhuman and obviously work towards the aggregate minimalization of it's status
>>52021804
Caribbean flags arent rare
>>52022648
Last night we had a thread going with the faces of int that made me realize that we have a serious differences when it comes to point out a mestizo.
Someone posted a photo of a chilean mestizo. He was clearly mestizo but some people said he wasn't because he looked "whiter" than your average amerindian.
So maybe it's a matter of self perception.
Not that anything really matters tho, we are all fucked in this pointless world. Dunno why I havent killed myself already desu.
>>52023186
That's major issue with Mexicans, especially the pretentious Latino types. They idealize Europeans so much that when a mestizo has any European features they're quick to jump and peg said face as European even if they obviously look heavily European. I'm about 90% Indio but am tall (for an indian) and in the upper income bracket so Mexicans often peg me as being primarily European despite the face that I look highly native, have very dark skin and even have slanted eyes. They confuse income with race and have a disturbingly prevalent idea that money makes you white somehow. It's pretty fucked.
>>52019692
t.huitzitlaxca
>>52019475
There are on this side of the border. There's also a lot of indios. The mestizos we have all came from Mexico, though.
>>52020577
>they put a lot of focus on intelligence like Asians
So Mayans are MexiJews?
Side note: I live in an area with a lot of Navajos, and they have to be the third ugliest people in the world (behind Poles and Indonesians).
>>52023633
>So Mayans are MexiJews?
Unfortunately, that's a pretty accurate way of putting it.
>Wanting to look like an ugly Indian
Jesus christ why hasn't everything south of us been nuked yet?
>>52023695
Memes aside, it's not so bad, m8.
t. Married to a Jewess
>>52023704
get shot cunt
>>52023353
>money makes you white somehow
It doesn't? That mindset seems to have worked for the nips.
>>52023704
those are big words for a boy like you
>>52023033
literally everything
its most likely easier for you to tell me what things you think are different, and ill show you otherwise
literally the only reason you dont want to be grouped with us, is conceitedness. you even share that attribute with some other cunts in this region, special snowflake. which is unfounded because on average we're all even at the same shit level of development
>>52023811
I use big guy words for big guys like me.
>>52021095
You have no authority at all to speak on mexico. I'd assume you don't even know the language, and if you do it matters not.
>>52023741
Except that our equivalent of Israel is Yucatan/Quintana Roo, which is part of Mexico and we have no nukes, unlike Shekelstan. We're resented as much in Mexico as Hebrew folk were in Bavaria circa 1939 though.
>>52023798
I'd prefer people were aware of our status without having to attach us to another race. That sounds pretentious but getting credit for your labor is beneficial. I'm pretty sure we run about half of the ultra profitable auto manufacturing and tourism industries in Mexico but Hispanics will always get credit for it. It's just a minor frustration I guess.
>>52023877
was getting caught part of your plan?
>>52023849
>only rich countries can differentiate themselves
Seriously, fuck off, little Colombia.
>>52023849
Brazilians speak a different language and they act very different on a business and personal level. The only Hispanics they act similar to are Uruguayans and to a lesser extent Argentines. That said, it's probably more accurate to say that Uruguayans and Argentines act more like them due to constant interaction.
>>52023849
>its most likely easier for you to tell me what things you think are different, and ill show you otherwise
Kek you don't know nothing about latin america and come to this thread to shitpost
>>52024183
sorry TL DR, we act similar to who?
>>52024338
hues
Now back to your breakfast vela
>>52024338
Brazilians. Business mannerisms are similar. Business meeting meals are typically mid-day, casual strategy layouts, formal attire but informal atmosphere, open to ideological discussion mixed with work talk. That kind of stuff.
itt: butthurt spics
lmao
>>52024456
chicano
>>52024473
Villera
Depends on the family
>>52024245
>>52023996
> dont like what i hear
> throw a fit
lol thats so latino
>>52023849
P A N A M A D
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>>52023983
If it makes you feel any better, you're all just Mexicans to us.
>>52024690
you don't even answered the question faggot
It varies depending on where are you from. Here in Argentina (no memes please) the unmixed white population is EXTREAMLY racist to any type of not caucasian foreigner (when I say unmixed white you can imagine an Italian or a spainlard, 70% of the country has brown eyes)
In Uruguay no one truly gives a fuck unless you bring a black man (t.uruguayan)
South Brazil is similar to Argentina in that aspect (can't confirm, just heard a lot of things)
I don't know about Chile, but they look slightly more Latino and accepting
The rest of Latin America is a shithole, if you bring a white foreign man/woman home, everyone is happy. If you bring a full bloded native, no one cares
>>52024868
>If it makes you feel any better, you're all just Mexicans to us.
T-thanks
>>52025040
What about a blonde, blue eyed, pale/ruddy American who speaks no Spanish?
>>52025040
WERE FULL
>>52024870
the uniqueness of your identity is so feeble that you feel insulted when it is put in doubt
i alredy answered the question faglet, no need to get upset. theres literally not 1 thing i can think of that makes brazil different, so maybe you should tell me.
favorite sport? check, food? check, carnivals? check, natives from the same region? check. mix of black, native and european? check. commidity extraction economy? check. corrupt populism? check. south amrican union? check. clusters of european culture? check. upbeat msuic with similar influences? check.
go ahed, tell me
>>52025279
They speak Portuguese that's their big difference to be special snowflake
Well, Brazil has a bit of everything, I suppose there may be families out there with strict standards. There is a considerable number of people who are racist against blacks, though, especially older people.
>>52019445
He never implied they were.
He just said pure, being purposefully vague, to avoid using the word white and mean whatever is considered pure by latin standards.
>>52025125
It passes unless the family is anti-usa. As long as it's Caucasian... Bonus points for aryan
>>52023141
Costa Rica really isn't, but I don't know, man, I still don't have St. Kitts and Nevi.
>>52025783
>aryan
>75% muh heritage from Germany and England
>1 Slovenian grandparent
>mfw I'm a slavshitnigger
>>52026513
>>52025279
HAHAHAHA now let's see again:
favorite sport?
>implying that british are latins
food?
>implying that all areas of Brazil eat the same thing,also eat the same food of the rest of continent
carnivals?
>implying that doens't exist cultural appropriation
natives from the same region?
>implying that only have one native group in the entire continent,not dozens
mix of black, native and european?
>implying that anyone living in any part of world with this heridtage is latin
COMMIDITY extraction economy?
>implying south africa is latin
corrupt populism?
>implying that politic actions define a group
south american union?
>implying that have an unique economic block to all countries
clusters of European culture?
>implying that all the countries influentes by europe is latin
upbeat msuic with similar influences?
>implying that tango,MPB and funk carioca are the same thing
I want a solid answer,but now i see that you REALLY don't have a clue what you talking about
>>52019402
As a Spaniard, I'd disinherit my daughter if she brought a sudaca home. One drop rule.
But my son would be allowed to fuck as many indias as he wanted as long as he doesn't marry one.
>>52026880
>As a Spaniard
>Germany flag
I see you are taking advantage of your looks to pass as a syrian refugee, Pablo. Is the Unemployment that high in Spain?
>>52027144
I've been living in Germany for 5 years now, have studied my whole engineering degree here and I've just started working for a big automotive company here.
I can't wait to apply for a place in a South American factory just to fuck indias for really cheap, I'm kind of bored of German pussy desu.
>>52027325
Daimler or BMW?
>>52027393
Volkswagen
>>52027424
Sorry for your loss. I have a strong feeling that VW is going to be dying out in the Americas over the next decade. US and Asian brands are dominating the cheap and middle class segments here while Mercedes and BMW have an irreversible stranglehold over the premium market, especially in North America.
With the diesel scandal and BMW and Mercedes building new plants in Mexico I feel this trend will continue. Still, Audi makes some neat stuff so I hope they still persevere at least as a low volume brand, but I don't see the core VW brand surviving in on a large scale outside of Brazil. Good luck VAG bro.
A significant portion of my economic future depends on Audi.
>>52026650
well if you single them out like that you can make any contry seem to not belong to any particular group. its when you put it all together, in the same region, that it clicks. more so when you compare things like tango and funk. are you a fucking idiot? does chile have tango? does peru have tango as well?
nordic coutnries have differences but are in the same bag, same as seasians, same as baltics, same as iberians..
god forbid brazilians get grouped. they dont belong anywhere. lol get fucked. similar catholic tradition, similar colonial origins, similar foods doesnt imply every dish is the same. yet you eat beaner food. how many hispanic countries have amazonian native tribes?
> muh micro native groups
> muh state differences
this is american tier argumentation
i mentioned economic facts to remind you the implications of being a banana republic which you are, and how many other latin american economies are intertwined with brazilian economy.
you havent been able to contest
>>52027963
>#AngryPanamanian
>>52025040
I fugged a street blonde Argentinian prostitute the other day, she was very pale and skinny.
I'm planning on fuggin her in the ass next time.
t: Mestizo.
>>52028755
t. Alberto Dindunossa
>>52027963
First of all you told that we're equal because we share some characteristics,so i show your mistakes pointing the diversity of brazilian regions and latin continent,now you say that is invalid because all the countries have divergences. Fuck off,you're completely lost.You're pathetic
>>52019692
t. Cuitláhuac Calzontzin
>>52019402
Yes, we have a high rate of classism even more than our racism
>>52021955
Merida and the entire east are full of indios, go to Monterrey or Guadalajara
>>52025279
>commidity extraction economy
Not true desu, about 62% of Brazil's exports are industriliased products (and raising, but that's because of the commodity price drop), although mostly of low and medium tech levels (consumer goods), and just before the crisis in 2008 it was about 80% of our total exports.
South Americans are mostly commies so it's more about class than race there. They'll hate a successful white guy just as much as a stealing dindo nuffin. Besides when you're mostly moor/native/black racial superiority isn't of any significance.
>>52029526
its a matter of being able to understand layers of classification and grouping. slav countries arent all the same, yet theyre all slavs.
however you arent capable of mentioning how brazil is different from the rest. my response about differences was to correct your shitty retort, not to imply that the differneces among us are above our similarities
but hey, im not gonna change your opinion. have a balloon for being a special snowflake, congratulations lol
>>52030064
Why are you replying to a fucking micro state stolen from Colombia?
>>52025279
I would answer to you, but you seem to be very ignorant and have stereotypical views.
>>52030064
>about 62% of Brazil's exports are industriliased products
[source required]
in 2013, way more than half of Brazil exports were commodities according to this: http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/bra/
>>52030396
the only reason your """"country"""" exists is because big daddy america wanted to cut through central america for his boats. literally a fucking canal is your raison d'etre. kek they even invaded you when you dared depose their puppet
sorry but you can't talk shit to any other country
>>52031753
Dat be why he so mad
>>52031312
http://www.mdic.gov.br/sitio/interna/interna.php?area=5&menu=1113&refr=608
This is based on the the same classification and data that is sent to the UNComtrade.
Those kind of charts are good to see single groups of exports, but they aggregate too much for general analysis. The biggest single groups of exports are indeed commodities (iron ore, soy beans and crude petroleum), but as a whole they amount to about 40% of the total exports during these last 6 years.
This spike of commodities in our exports during the last years is quite discussed here around the topic of Deindustrialisation and Reprimarisation of our economy.
>>52019402
>Is there any elitism among "pure" Spaniards in Latin America towards the "non-pure"/native ones?
Yes
>if you bring a "non-pure" gf to your parents will they take it badly or something?
Depends how racist the family is and how non-white the gf is tb.h
>>52031753
>kek they even invaded you when you dared depose their puppet
How much keked can the USA be? Their most essential vassal with Canada completely slipped from them for a few months.
I thought they had super secret services to prevent losing important shit like that.
