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>someone tries to rob you >shoot them dead Is this really
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>someone tries to rob you
>shoot them dead

Is this really considered an appropriate response in America? Potentially losing some money isn't worth a life in actual normal countries
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If I tried to rob you, what would you do?
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>mfw an emu robbed an ausc*ck and fucked his wife, but he didn't defend himself or his wife because that would be "uncivilized" near me

is there a more beta race of men?
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>>51961284
He'd probably deep throat you.
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>>51961253
It's a fundamental human right to use force to defend yourself from wrongful harm. Sorry you're not a person, douchebag.
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>>51961253
>Someone pulls out a knife to try and rob you
>Give him the money
>He stabs you anyways and you die bleeding out on the floor.
10/10, very normal and civilized.
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>>51961253
Very approriate, if robber would alive he can hire lawers to apply for you in court with far more severe consequences.
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>>51961307
Canadians
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>>51961321
But you aren't being harmed if you're just being robbed
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>>51961375
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>51961375
What do you think he's threatening to rob you with? A stick?
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>>51961253
Don't try to fucking steal then, nigger
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>>51961398
>american """""""counter argument"""""""
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>>51961467
>8 (EIGHT) KILOBYTES
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>>51961253
> he doesn't believe in self defense laws

I live in one of the least gun-friendly states, but if someone breaks into my house and I shoot them, nothing will happen to me legally.
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>>51961253
Is potentially losing your life worth the money
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>>51961467
Robbery is, by definition, forcible. Ergo, you can counter with force.
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>>51961435
>get threatened with a gun
>they demand money
>you give money
>they leave
>everyone is alive

it's not complicated

They're not going to kill you after they rob you, that wouldn't make sense. If they were planning to kill you it's easier to do it first, then just take the money from your dead body.
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>be australian
>tip the robber
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>>51961516
You have literally zero way of knowing that. You're just a massive fucking pussy who doesn't believe in any level of self defense. So when you die, nothing of value will be lost.
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>>51961545
I literally just explained how I literally know that.
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>>51961516
>They're not going to kill you after they rob you
And how the fuck would you know
Criminals aren't as predictable as emus, Bruce
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>>51961570
Reality proves you wrong each and every day.
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>>51961509
>american education
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>>51961253
Wow you've really convinced me, opie.
Just turned in all my guns to the local police department.
Can't wait to get robbed at gunpoint and leave my fate in the hands of some scummy asshole.
Hopefully he'll rape my girlfriend and let me watch.
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>>51961516
>They're not going to kill you after they rob you, that wouldn't make sense
>Expecting a criminal to always make sense
This is just so embarrassingly naive I don't know where to begin.
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>>51961593
>emus
>predictable

You don't know shit about emus
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>>51961253
Yes, Murricans love "muh second amendment"
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>>51961634
This thread isn't about gun control Cletus
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>>51961664
Or c*cking.
And they say Jewish propaganda doesn't work on them.
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>>51961664
Then what is it about?
You trying to justify your government seizing private property?
Or are you just tossing out a blanket statement about American gun owners that is based purely on opinion?
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>>51961253
We arent a normal country

>>51961375
>harm is only physical
Damn, that australian education is shit desu
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>you will never group up in such a developed country like australia where you dont have to fear thugs
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>>51961253
The robber's life isn't worth shit.
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>criminals are allowed to rob you and they should get away because shooting them may hurt their feelings

The fuck? Self-defense and self-preservation is natural

Maybe the robber should get a job, even a McJob instead of stealing on good folks

Besides, no matter how good your police force is they'll always be there after shit happens so its best that you just shoot the guy regardless if you kill him or not

My life > some other dude's life
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>>51961630
It's a legal fact nigger. Nothing you can say changes that.
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>>51961630
Literally yes. A robbery implies unlawful taking through violence or threat of violence.
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>>51961664
Tbqh American gun owners are all the same shit.
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>>51961253
If the rob you with a weapon then yeah they deserve to get shot
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>>51961721
>Then what is it about?
It's about American overreaction and complete disregard for life. You kill things when it's not necessary at all
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should I bake him a cake instead?
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In the US, if I shoot a burglar and it's later found that he was unarmed, do I get done for manslaughter?
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>>51961818
We've already established that you're not human since you don't believe in any self defense rights.
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>>51961752
>get away
No, they'll almost definitely get caught in a country with decent police and spend time in jail. Attempting to kill the person only escalates the situation more and makes you more likely to die
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>>51961516
I'm sorry but your argument only really works in civilised countries like Australia or Norway, in America they're used to violence and killing for no reason
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>>51961849
No (except for in some very rare extenuating circumstance).
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>>51961777
>mfw taxes are robbery
>mfw insurgency is legal
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>>51961818
good riddance

dogs a shit
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>>51961253
Yes it is, most thieves are also armed
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>>51961882
that's a bit fucked m8
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>>51961849
Isn't that basically what this guy did
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Someone robbing you usually comes with a threat of violence (like a gun or a knife pointed at you), so it's only appropriate to shoot them, especially if it's home invasion, you can never tell what the bad guy might be packing.
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>>51961896
Not really. If someone is robbing you, which is a forcible threat against you, the law assumes that they mean you harm.
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>>51961884
watch out m8
some american lolbertarians belive taxes are indeed robbery
u gon trigger em
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>>51961739
I really have no fears in this country desu family I'd hate to live in a dangerous place like Mexico where I have to worry, do you feel worried just going about your day in your city?
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I don't take any post under that flag seriously anymore.

sage, please range ban australians.
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>>51961818
There you go again with the blanket statements.
Some nigger shot a guard dog that was obviously potentially hostile and you expect me to...what exactly?

The fact of the matter is, my laws dictate that I can use lethal force if I feel my life, or the lives around me, are threatened. I don't overstep that law, and I don't take it for granted.
I find it much more liberating when I am in control of my life instead of placing that control in the hands of somebody else, much less a criminal.

After that, let the courts decide justice.
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The moment someone threatens your life, their life is forfeit. Thinking anything else is how retarded.
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>>51961940
no because I live in yucatan, its the safest part of the country

there are ghettos and shit but crime is rare here
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Why are you assuming their life is inherently worth something? I would disagree, desu senpai
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>>51961253
I don't see criminals as people, I see them as predators. So yes, putting down a wolf to protect the village is a valid response.
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>>51961849
A burglar doesn't need to be armed for you to shoot him. If he's in your home unlawfully he's fair game. Castle doctrine, bitch!
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>>51961890
Good jew
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>>51961818
>not necessary
Robbers are a waste of oxygen, killing them is a noble cause
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>people giving OP all these (You)'s

idiots
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>>51961307
C*nadians
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>>51961253


This has to be bait. In and of its essence, thid entire shit is bait.
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>>51961525
>be Australian because my great-great grandfather was a robber
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>>51961849
Only if they're black
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>>51961869
Lol, you serious kid?
Your chances of getting caught for any crime is around 50% give or take.
Robbery is one of the least likely crimes to be caught at around 25%
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>>51961736
We get higher PISA scores than you lmao
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>300 replies in 1 1/2 hours
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>>51961516

Doesn't make sense but it doesn't matter as I'd sooner shoot a feral nigger down that let him SUBJECT ME TO HIM and take my money I've actually worked for
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>>51962060
It's all the Asians bringing the Average Australian up
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>>51961989
Ah that sounds comfy, if I'm planning on travelling through Mexico at some point where is safest way to go and see nice places, don't want to end up shot and burnt like those poor lads :(
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>>51961896
>break into someone's home
>get shot
>YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO KILL HIM
>#blacklivesmatter

this is like when arabs stab little girls and old ladies and when they get shot they're all like "we dindu nuffin, summary execution, muh racist jooz, #arablivesmatter"
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>>51962048
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http://aattp.org/mental-illness-gun-control-study/

>tfw have diagnosed clinical depression
>never felt a need to buy a gun
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>>51962097
haha fag
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>>51962097
>“…people owning six or more guns were more likely to fall into both of these categories than people who owned a single gun.”
>you should only own one gun

Guns are tools, does that mean I should only own a hammer and screw the rest?
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Heaps of people here have guns but there are very few gun crimes
Americans are just too gung-ho about it imo
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>>51962119
Haha ikr?
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>>51962019
what the hell just happened?
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>>51962058
He said decent police in a good country you kek
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>>51962085
Don't.
Even I that I'm a local am too worried to do it.
You'd have to do dozens of hours of research on which zones are safe and be fluent in spanish but event then there's no guarantee that you won't get your shit fucked up.
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Then go to Yucatan or else you will get killed.
You know what? don't even come here I don't want you to take the risk.
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>>51962085
stay in the yucatan peninsula, not much to see anywhere else, the north-central states are safe but there is nothing to see but historic buildings and stuff like that

visit yucatan and maybe go to cuba or other caribean countries, dont go to acapulco or veracruz despite how much someone sells them a tourist destinations ever ever ever
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>>51962140
Nah tbqh.
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>>51962086
Based jew understands. A new shipment of fighter planes is on the way.
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>>51962173
>>51962085
Fail I forgot to attach kek
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>>51961253
If someone robs you, they are actively threatening your life. You never know how serious they are with their threat, but do you actually take that by chance if you have the opportunity and the means to fight back with your own weapon? Depending on the situation it would surely be more wise to let the robber go with your money, because it's safer that way, but you'd have to be able to read the situation really well, because you don't want to be stabbed afterwards just because the robber is a nutcase. I don't think it's a right or wrong in this per se, but it may be a right or wrong way of handeling any seperate situation like these.
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>>51962155
Palsitinian goes full akbar, swings knife around, gets shot.
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>Is this really considered an appropriate response in America?
I think a problem with it is, you're in a legally better situation if you just kill them, as opposed to say, pistol-whipping them, then putting the gun parallel to their head and shooting an ear off.
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>>51962155
Dumb Palestinian bitches try to stab old jews with scissors.
Police jew executes them both.
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>>51962194
you are retarded

yucatan peninsula has europe-tier homicide rates
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>>51962000
The American looking unknown people like this?
need more psychiatrists?
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>>51962165
>implying your desert shithole has a better police force
Aus cops are too busy working breathalyzer checkpoints to solve actual crimes.
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Are all the American and Canadian posts here jokes? Just moved here from England and I'm wondering how I've wandered into such an uncivilised hell hole if not desu.
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>>51962230
Speak english, nip.
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>>51962254
That's because the UK has defense laws that actually favor criminals. Welcome to the free world faggot.
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>>51962235
I've been breathalysed twice in about five years. I've also never needed to show ID to police in any encounter I've had with them.
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>>51962259
He's saying you're an insane cunt.
As in, get mental help.
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>>51962235
The worst crimes we get really are the bikie fags and they're pretty much getting dealt with by our nazi laws
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>>51962200

Why would I shorten the distance between myself and an unarmed attacker?

I own guns. I have the right to. I've had to tell people to leave before with them. I have shot someone before. I've never killed anyone.
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>>51962142
You also not attached to Mexico and have few niggers.
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>>51962259
Yeah,good ENGLISH, yank.
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>>51962254
How's it going?
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>>51962254
>I just moved here from england
America: 0
Canada: -1

I feel bad for you canadabros. It's faggots like this that are going to absolutely ruin you. Luckily, you can run north and hide in the mountains when all the britslimes decide to wage syrupjihad
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>>51961878
Why are you such a pussy?
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>>51962230
cute photo <3`
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>>51962315
I'm actually moving back anyway, it's a shit hole here.
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>>51962298
>more laws automatically stop crime
This is how Aussies think.
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>>51962194
Ah I see, that is too bad but thank you for your help I guess I'll just have to stick with South America
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>>51962335
Because hes not a try hard cunt.
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>>51962335
thank you for your cervix
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>>51962271
silly boy, your nation is in a slow fall into anarchy, you have no right to throww stones. From the outside looking in, the USA is not the place it was, bad thing happen and no one cares. A false nation dividing by its own choice.
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>>51962271
>free world
>random citizens get to decide who lives and who dies because they might lose a necklace

k lad
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>>51962307
the reason we have a lot of homicides is because we are attached to you desu
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>>51962302
>Why would I shorten the distance between myself and an unarmed attacker?
I didn't say to shorten any distances. A mugging is generally done pretty close to the victim.
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>>51962308
Two nukes wasn't enough.
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>>51962302
>I have shot someone before
did they tip
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>>51962354
Good. Put as much distance between myself and your halal-widened asshole as possible.
Have fun burning with the rest of europe
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>>51962417
>did they tip
Hollow tip.
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>>51962357
Our laws seem to be doing just fine for us and by nazi laws I mean the bikies aren't even allowed in pubs
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>>51962417
>thanks for not going for the kill shot
>here's five bucks
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>>51962393

I've never been mugged before. I didnt think you were talking about a mugging.

Even then, if I am being mugged I will draw-down on someone. I won't make a point to shoot them, but I'll retreat to a safe distance with a large amount of people whilst facing my attacker.
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>>51962391
The war on drugs in Mexico and the cartels are fucking your shit up.
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>>51962379
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Omar
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>>51962276
>being breathalyzer without probable cause
Literally a police state desu.
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>>51961253
>letting a criminal bend you over and take your hard earned possessions

The fuck?
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>>51962379
It's cute how deluded you are. People are more aware of what's going on around them and there is more public discourse than ever.

>>51962383
Have fun defending the actions of people who by definition mean you harm. It's pathetic.
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>>51962417

I don't get it.
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>>51962391
>the reason we have a lot of homicides is because we are attached to you
I'm sure it's the same reason for the entirety of Latin America's homicide rate
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>>51962383
>Literally not allowed to carry pepper spray because you might hurt your rapist
How's it feel to be completely keked?
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>>51962462
yes but we didn't started the war on drugs, Nixon did
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>>51962383

They have no right to steal make me feel threatened. They'd do it again. Criminals are creatures of habit.
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>>51962437
>criminals following the law
You are what's wrong with this world.
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>>51962460
>Even then, if I am being mugged I will draw-down on someone. I won't make a point to shoot them, but I'll retreat to a safe distance with a large amount of people whilst facing my attacker.
Well good. I think you've missed my point anyway, which was it's often legally better to kill someone than to perform any action against the attacker up until kill someone.

I'm not literally advocating shooting off people's ears.

>but they'd probably stop mugging you
>just sayin'
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>>51962369
You're on the right track m8 go to Chile or somewere else.
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>not throwing pocket spiders at intruders
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>>51962515
Well we do have our war on drugs here as well.
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>>51962515

Reagan made it really bad. If your governments weren't incompetent they could do it.
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>>51962391
Yeah, it's our fault, not the fact you can't police your own fucking citizens and let drug cartels run your fucking country.

WALL 2016!
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>>51962462
They can thank your country for contributing to that
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>>51962540

I wouldn't make a point to, but if they didn't do exactly as I said I would shoot them in their fucking leg, or some shit. I would wait there with them until the police arrived.
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Attempting to kill them makes you 100x more likely to die. It really doesn't make any sense to try
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>>51962576
True.
Sorry Mexico.
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>>51962502
Well the CIA did kind of destabilize their countries, put corrupt leaders in power, and sell arms to both sides.... but the CIA doesn't represent me.
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>>51962445
I would personally tip 15% of the cost of the gun if I were shot
It's only fair
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>>51962391
Get your shit together senpai just because our neighbor is doing well it doesn't mean that we're going to act like animals.
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>>51962572
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/12/420107/-
we build the wall and you stop the CIA, deal?
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>>51962538
You have to stop thinking of my country in the same terms as yours, your society on whole is just much more violent whether you want to blame that on laws or your minorities or whatever
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>>51962583
>giving the melanin enriched perp a chance to testify in court
Have fun getting sued out the ass and going broke, man
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>>51962638
>DailyKos
Triggered
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>>51962685
shit man, find another source if you want, but that shit was all over the news back in the days
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>>51962654
Not really.
They tried to rob you, you injure them, they don't get anything.
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>>51962717
Probably because most of it is made up
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>>51962654

>court siding with red guard in Texas

Lol, good luck w/ that.
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>>51962774
americans
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>>51962774
>CIA a gud boi
>he dindu nuffin

get lost fag, its not the only US goverment plane that has been caught smuggling drugs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendition_aircraft#N987SA
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>>51961284
That ugly Jewess in the middle is staring right into my soul. Help me.
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>>51961375
>in highschool
>I study in the evening turn, so it was dark already at the end of classes
>some guys steal my friends shoes and inhaler on his way home
>asthma attack
>on my way home
>find my friend on the ground turning purple, cant breath
>lend him my inhaler, saving his life
robbing kills people m8
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>>51962790
>be californian
Help me, please. Where can fun-loving californians feel welcome in the lone star state?
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>>51961253

money is everything in america
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>>51962645
We just don't believe in slap on the wrist for criminals. I can see why Aussies would though.
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>>51962921
>also be Californian

Life is suffering here.
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>>51962645
>Literally a nation of criminals
>"You're more violent"
Maybe you just have ancestral sympathy for law breakers.
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>Australians talking about shit they dont understand
Just wait till the muslims come Johnny, youll wish for a gun when they are beheading you on the streets
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>>51962921
>>51963097

Austin, if you don't say you're Californian.
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>>51963097
What part?
South sacramento here.
>I swear, I'm white
>ok 3/4 white
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>>51963250
Is it Austin that's full of liberal college students, or Dallas?
Because I don't want that.
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>>51963195
Australians sympathize with criminals because they are all descended from criminal scum.
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>>51963250
To liberal for my taste

>>51963281
Los Gatos senpai
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>>51963371
Did you seriously just reword what he wrote, in an attempt to pass off his joke as your own? Did you think we wouldn't notice?

sm͏h tb͏h fa͏m la͏d m͏8 desu senpai
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If you don't want to get blasted, why are you stealing in the first place?

Yeah, I'm not going to shoot someone for a few dollars or a phone, but if someone broke into my house and threatened my family, I'm going to do anything I can to save them.
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>>51963309
>>51963445

Mostly Facebook liberals. Nobody here is really invested in the politics.
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Are Americans usually wary when they leave their homes and, say, go for a walk in the city centre?

Would you take a concealed gun with you, to be safe on your stroll?
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>>51961253
Back in high school my friends and I went to see a band in the shittiest part of the city. While walking back to the car some guy tried to rob us. I was the only one who refused to give the thief my wallet. Instead of stabbing me, he stabbed one of my friends instead. I learned a valuable lesson that night. Never show weakness. Never back down. Always shoot to kill.
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I am sick of this Australian shitposter.
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>>51963595
Millions of Americans carry guns with them. Look up defensive gun use m8
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Adulterers must be stoned to death, but you libs think it's normal, your opinion -literally- leads to death so just remember when you speak vain and proud things, your opinion a shit
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>>51962230
Really. Well putting you filthy predators down definitely helped make the world a better place.
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>>51963653
>that ONE Australian shitposter
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>>51963751
Steve, just stop already.
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>>51963595

No. Unless you are going to a ghetto, we are a safety country. The memes are false. Think about it: our police also open fire at the slightest sign of criminality.
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>mfw this entire thread
What the hell? Are people actually defending robbers here? I'm not conservative in any bit, but criminals can go fuck themselves and get shot.
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>>51962048

I like this post
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>>51963828
you've never trolled /k/ with the "criminals are humans too" bait?
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>>51963828
Look at the country that's doing it, that should explain itself.
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>>51963859
It's how most people in developed countries feel though, it's not an extreme opinion
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>>51963595
>this nigger doesn't know about ccw
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>>51961253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM33Hr94SKw
Robbers are not considered you as human, because they think they are can rob you and kill. Why would you spare them life. It is kill or be killed world.
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>>51963893
>99 percent uninhabitable land
>developed
You lost a war to birds
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>>51963893
It may not be an extreme opinion but why would you want someone who treats you like prey to continue breathing and soaking up your tax dollars in jail?
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>>51962230

hunt swift, puppers
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>>51963777
But doesn't it bother you that potentially every person could literally just kill you with the blink of an eye if they felt like it?
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>>51961516
If this faggot isn't trolling, I would bet anything that he is from Melbourne.
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>>51963972
Kill or be killed. Normal people don't rob you.
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>>51963972
>invite someone into your home
>kill them
>claim they broke in
>get away with murder

U S A
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>>51963852
/k/ is one of my favorite boards, and I honestly believe one of the smartest and most civil. However, you cannot deny how easy /k/ is to troll.
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>>51963972

Not really, at least where I live gun owners are responsible and sane individuals. Not sure about those city types though.

>>51964003

Yeah dude I do that all the time
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>>51964003
This would never work.
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>>51961467
>>51961375
>>51961253
Why waste all your limited Internet to argue that your a kek
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>>51963972
As long as you aren't a criminal you'll be fine.

DGU
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>>51963972
>every person could literally just kill you with the blink of an eye if they felt like it?
Not really, no. I moved from my capital city to some small town, and I love it. There's a gun store like 5 minutes away, but I've never felt safer.
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>>51963972
You can do this in any nation where cars are legal.
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>>51962058
Mate of mine got held up at gun point near a train station, just down the road from my place. They had the guy on camera coming into and leaving the station, but they never caught him.

Doesn't matter how good the police are, you're just not likely to catch a robber.
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>>51964129
>>51964120
>>51964065
Intredasting. Do you have pictures of yourselves with your guns on facebook?

Did you ever greet somebody on your porch while carrying a rifle as in to indirectly threatening him to "get off your lawn"?
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>>51964139
to be honest its easier to dodge a car than a bullet
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>>51964254
Don't use Facebook and wouldn't post pictures like that on there anyways. I've never had to use my gun but my aunts house was broken into in the middle of the night.

They heard her pump the 870 and scrambled out of there pretty fast.
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>>51964324
*I don't use Facebook*
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>>51964254

No Facebook guns, it make you look like a douchebag tbqh senpai

Never had to draw, keep my doors unlocked. Although my grandfather stopped a robbery by flashing his pistol.
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>>51964254
>happy_brazilian_kid.webm
>kid looks like a monkey
Ayy lmao
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>>51962353
Weeaboo found
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>>51961818
Am I supposed to feel bad for a dead aggressive, annoying animal?
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Cuz you a soft skin kek>>51962373
>>51962377
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>>51963972
How do you get sleep. Sweet Jesus.
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>>51961818
>implying that dog was dead by the end of the video

It's still wagging its tail. Check and mate, Atheists 1 Christians 0.
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>>51962379
Says the nation that is a shriveled mudskin raped version of its self from destruction comes rebrith but your shit island is a welfare shit hole
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>>51962550
Underated post
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>>51962606
Nigga kek they run drugs into are country and your sorry your a faggot
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>>51963940
Hahaha kek
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>>51961253
lol you are a child.
also here you shoot to kill. not to scare away or to wound. if you break into my home i WILL kill you.
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>>51963972
Can't they kill you with out guns if they really felt like it?
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>>51961253
>just give them what they want
A kek response, desu
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I'm grateful everyday I don't live in that mad country
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>>51962060
>gets told
>WEE GET BETTER SCORES AT TESTS LMAO GET REKT NERD
>a valid argument
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>>51961818
>dog gets shot while attacking
>argument disproven
Literally muh feels. Eat shit, faggot.
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>>51961818

Stupid crack whores fail to restrain the animal that charges the officer. What should he have done, let it bite him?
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>>51965201
Agreed. I mean it'd be crazy to live in a country where muslims have grenade throwing parties in the streets.....

Oh wait.
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>>51961253
>not doing your civic duty and removing robbers from society and the gene pool.
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>>51965201
>grateful he lives in sweden
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>>51964954
Well yeah obviously I would too if I lived somewhere like South Africa, that place is objectively an unsafe shithole
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>>51961435
Baseball bats are sticks
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>killing criminals

I'm not one to stick up for the Yanks, but I like it.
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>>51962335
>carrys
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His country has armed robberies :DD
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>>51968239
>he thinks there're no armed robberies in his country
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>>51961253
It's usually more like
>somebody tries to rob you at knifepoint
>pull gun, tell them to fuck off
>90% of muggers abruptly remember they left the stove on and bail
>remaining 10% consists of the drunk, the high, and the terminally stupid, who decide to find out if stabbing really fast beats a gun
>they find out
>shoot until they drop, since adrenaline and momentum can keep people on their feet even with a couple bulletholes in them, if only briefly (note: stabbing someone also only takes a brief time)
>call 911, tell them I need an ambulance and policeman, do basic first aid on the dumb fuck while I wait for the EMTs

The goal is to stop the fuck, not necessarily kill them. I'm just not inclined to worry overmuch about the physical wellbeing of someone who just threatened MY physical wellbeing. In my view, they forfeited their right to life and safety the moment they attempted to violate my right to life and safety. They're riding on good will alone.
I'd rather not be responsible for killing someone in any context, but if the situation forces me and my attempts at first aid prove insufficient, well, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
You can argue about choosing less-lethal shots like the limbs, but when somebody's running at you their arms and legs are moving targets and you don't have a lot of time to aim, not to mention the fact that you're probably jittery with nerves on account of having your life threatened. The torso is the safer, easier target, because it's big, doesn't swing around, and it's at a comfortable height. Trying to shoot him knife arm is more likely to result in somebody down the street getting shot once you miss.

I spent part of my life earning that money, don't tell me it's not worth defending. I'm not going to let myself end up on the street because I got robbed coming back from the bank with rent.
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>>51961516
>>get threatened with a gun
>>they demand money
>>you give money
>>they leave
>>everyone is alive

>they get drugged up on that money
>decide to kill someone

blood on your hands
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>>51963371
>>51963070
>>51963195
Lel you didn't refute me at all and you're kidding yourself if you think you don't live in a 3rd world tier violent shit hole
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>>51961516
>If they were planning to kill you it's easier to do it first, then just take the money from your dead body.
You aren't thinking like a mugger.

Killing people makes noise, be it a gunshot or screaming. Noise attracts attention, attention means heat. A mugger needs to be quiet until them money is in hand and he can run.
A victim that survives is a witness. You know that they might have spent the whole time memorizing all they can about your face, race, build, clothes, voice, which way you ran. A mugger doesn't want that.

If a mugger kills their victim first, they need to spend precious time digging around in pockets and freeing jewelry after they've called attention to themselves. Anybody who looks will see them frisking a body and immediately know what's happened. They'll get blood on them which can be traced.

It's much easier to force the victim to quietly collect and hand over the valuables, then kill them and immediately run, before they can be seen.
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>>51961896
It's perfectly reasonable to assume that someone threatening you with harm is capable of enacting harm, and the law protects you when responding accordingly.

If you're actually unarmed and were just posturing to try and convince me that you ARE armed, to intimidate me into compliance, then, uh, congratulations? You convinced me, and I shot you because I was convinced you had a weapon. What exactly did you expect.
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>>51962140
Admittedly there's a whole lotta shit you can do with just a hammer.
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>>51961931
Using the law to take money from someone in order to enact transfer-payments-for-votes-schemes while not providing a public good (in an economic sense) is literally theft at implicit gunpoint
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>>51962593
Live by the sword & die by the sword, but do you actually have a testimony to replace that gun? Get one soon...
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>>51961375
>But you aren't being harmed if you're just being robbed
That's a bold assumption to make that could get you killed
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>>51961516
>get threatened with a gun
>they demand money
>you give money
>they leave
>everyone is alive
In sincerely hope you're trolling
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>>51963972
It's pretty sad that you're so fearful of your fellow man that you believe people refrain from random acts of violence due to inability rather than unwillingness.

How can you feel safe in a crowd knowing that someone behind you could bash your head in with a hammer at any time?
The answer is simple: most people aren't fucking animals.
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>>51974443
Pretty sure fear of god is the only thing holding back American shootings being 10x more common
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>>51963959
Death penalty don't exist in France and in a lot of country, you've got your answer.
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The reason burgers get to shoot robbers is because it's quite likely that the robber may shoot them, because the robber is also american.
It's the big paradox of guns being available, you can shoot back, but you are more likely to be shot making you more willing to shoot as a precaution. It's why their cops get away with shooting peoples dogs.
It may have a gun.
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