>land of the slow
>>51954449
Buy a car or plane ticket then you fucking broke ass piece of shit.
I'm not paying taxes so you can afford to travel around for nothing on your neetbux.
>>51954506
land of the slow
>>51954449
I'll take a 5 hours flight instead of a theoretical 18+ hour HSR ride.
Ethiopia
muh freight rail
South Africa
>>51954506
land of the slow
>>51954923
>>51954999
> metro
> heavy long distance rail
Pick one.
>>51954506
>travel around for nothing
Fucking libertarians, you still have to pay for a train ticket you dumb fuck
Trains are best for small countries.
Not sure how it is in other countries but Shinkansen tickets in Japan were hella expensive, I can get domestic flights here for the same price of a one-way trip from Tokyo to Kyoto, maybe even less if the plane tickets are on sale.
>>51954449
Lmao
United Slowpokes of America BTFO!!!
>>51954449
You posted this same thread on /pol/, numbnuts.
>>51954918
>implying other countries don't have planes
>>51955212
Oh, but I gotta say trains are infinitely more comfortable than planes.
>>51955064
>> heavy long distance rail
All these trains take people from city to city and are more modern than your train infrastructure
>>51955260
> implying any European country is large
HSR is great if your entire country is a few hundred miles across at most. Using it for distances above that is completely pointless.
>>51955473
All these trains travel from country to country.
>>51955503
And how expensive are they? How do they compare to, say, low cost airlines such as easyJet and Ryanair?
>>51955300
Wow, people in countries that are poor and/or small don't fly domestically much? What a surprise!
>>51955503
> intentionally ignoring the point
Train, even high speed trains are objectively a worse way to travel over distances of 500+ miles. Decades of use cases have proven that airlines outperform HSR over said distances, both in terms of speed and economics.
When can we go to europe with this train?
>>51954449
>taking the train
>being surrounded by undesirables
I'd rather take my horse
>>51955503
Because the countries are tiny and super densely populated on average. Not sure what point you think you're making.
>>51955664
Wut iz this
>>51955700
It's a horse. It's like those unicorns you have over there, just without a horn.
>>51955682
I think HSR is good choice for tranports between eastern coast cities
>>51955802
It's actually not for the whole cost. Only in the NEC (Boston-NYC-Philly-Baltimore-DC), which already exists. Anything beyond that is too spread out.
>>51955634
>Wow, people in countries that are poor and/or small don't fly domestically much
Idiotic statement. Just like you wouldn't fly from Amsterdam to Paris, you wouldn't fly from Johannesburg to Pretoria because the airport security hassle isn't worth it.
>>51955905
> still ignoring the point
You haven't said a single valid thing in this thread. You keep saying shit like you're making a point, but you have yet to make one you utter fucking moron.
>>51955905
How dense are you? The point is it's a lot easier to justify extensive train networks in small, densely populated places (e.g. Europe). Not in places where major cities can be hundreds of miles apart (e.g. most of the US).
>>51955896
Yeah but Acela Express is suck.
Why you guys dont rebuilding them?
>>51956048
You got $100 billion lying around?
>>51955682
>Because the countries are tiny and super densely populated on average.
Like American cities aren't densely populated.
because we're not vile subhumans who congregate in packs and get shuttled places and cars are by far more popular due to american culture around MUH CARZ
We can afford cars. Trains are literally for niggers and peasants
>>51956080
Is this what make him getting old?
>>51955963
>lose argument
>go full ad hominum
yep
>>51956126
The cities are, but they're not close to each other.
Just like here desu
>>51956126
You're talking about metro again asshole. It doesn't matter if a single city is dense for HSR purposes (spoiler, American cities are way less dense than European ones). It matters if several large/dense cities are within a short enough distance of each other for HSr purposes.
>>51956080
What a sad story....
It could be most populated HSR
>>51956192
You didn't make an argument to begin with. You contradicted yourself on multiple occasions and ignore mathematical and geographical facts.
>>51954506
>Americans
>>51956126
Major US cities are significantly less dense and significantly further apart than European cities, on average.
How is this news to you?
>>51956126
The density of an individual city is irrelevant for a rail system meant to connect large cities to each other. Density of a single city matters if you're talking about a metro system for just that city and its immediate surroundings.
>>51956221
I'm not talking about Metro. I'm talking Europe and South Africa. Notice the pics I posted aren't from Europe but from South Africa.
>>51956287
Acela express can be much better system than now.
It is already making money in this keked situation. Therefore rebuilding it is necessary choice.
>>51956479
Then you are, yet again, contradicting yourself. Learn how distance and population density works.
>>51956481
You still haven't identified funding.
Hope we get 21st century trains.
>>51954449
>Russia
no
>>51956534
Hmmmm,.. more tax?
>>51956587
Isn't that going to be slow as shit though?
>>51954506
>americans
>>51956587
Why is there a VLC ad?
>>51954506
>mfw I thought these people were a myth
>>51954449
WE'RE STILL NUMBER #1 MOTHERFUCKERS. WE'RE THE BIG SWINGING DICK OF THIS WORLD. USA, USA, USA
>>51954506
damn depression-era hobos leeching off welfare
>>51954449
fuck off and leave
Vote for him and pay more tax then you can make a real HSR
>using rail travel
>on a country with relatively low population density
But why?
Australia and Canada don't do this shit either. It's an inefficient use of resources.
>>51956676
Not my problem as its for tourists and old people who are shit at driving.
>>51956833
Xixixixixixixixi....
>>51956187
Serving two terms as POTUS sucks the life force out of you apparently
>>51955802
This image is proof this is god's favorite country
>NC dosen't have a coastal city
thank you, stupid banks
russia actually
russia: woosh
germany: wwwwwwz
japan: ziiiiiip
china: bzzzzzt
france: weeeeeeee
usa: chak chak
>using the train
>like a black or homeless
Why dont you fucks do like jeremy clarkson said, grow up, be an adult, buy a fucking car
>Amerilong
At least theyre best at the cargo train.
>>51955664
This. Public transport is filled with dirty and poor minorities.
I voted against a public transportation expansion in my city for this reason. I don't want undesirables bused into my neighborhood.
>>51957512
And yet it makes by far the most money.
>>51955648
>being cut off from the land by best korea
I suppose the answer is never.
>>51957599
>Amerepublican
Thats why ameri poor people poorer than europian plebs
>>51957747
No, they're poor because they are lazy shits who sit around all day on the porch.
Imagine if SK had a bunch of Mongolians who did nothing but commit crime and suck up welfare. Would you want to be around those """"people"""""?
>>51957849
>victim blaming
and the dindus were slaves because they didn't desire freedom
>>51957599
The american mind is quite fascinating..
We've built the fastest-moving vehicle humans have yet constructed.
And we're gonna use it to spy on our neighbors.
>>51957849
>have low social spending
>have high wealth inequality and poor social mobility
I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but you can at least be honest about it.
>>51957100
it's such a stressful job that anyone who serves both terms looks like they're dying of cancer by the time they're done
>>51955905
>Just like you wouldn't fly from Amsterdam to Paris
Flying to Paris from Amsterdam is more common and usually cheaper than taking the Thalys.
Anyways, diesel trains are more effective for long distances and the design of a train doesn't prove the modernity. Amtrak is pretty cool and I'd rather be on the Pacific Surfliner than on a Thalys or Eurostar.
Here are your choices:
1. Paris to Amsterdam by road distance is about 510 km (316 miles) which is roughly a 5 hour drive plus you need to pay petrol and €5 an hour parking once you arrive.
2.Flight from Paris to Amsterdam includes price of taxi to airport and from airport, time for security checks and checkins.
3. Train from Paris to Amsterdam takes just over 3 hours. There are about 12 trains a day. Train fares vary by the comfort class and how soon you buy your tickets in advance. A one way ticket starts from 35 euros when you make an early booking.
>>51954449
RUSSIA DOES NOT HAVE BULLET TRAIN! IT IS LIE! IT IS A BULLSHIT!
>>51958129
I'm going to be honest and say I don't like them and I want them separated from me.
>>51954506
Trains are expensive as fuck you fucking moron
>>51954506
>Amerilogic
Say what you will about trains in America, they're much comfier than trains elsewhere
Damn trains are nice here, they're a luxury instead of a common pleb tool for the poor
>america
>>51954449
electric trains will always be faster than diesel because they can harness the power of hydroelectric plants or nuclear power plants
>>51958313
http://www.russiantrains.com/en/page/allegro-train
>>51958606
>they're much comfier than trains elsewhere
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pic related. "Comfy" South African train.
>>51958760
That's not a train that's a tourbus
>>51958606
wew lad
>>51958760
>token black person in the back
>>51955300
That's because our train infrastructure is 90% cargo.
Maybe this is just me being crazy, but I'd rather the train hauling fifty thousand gallons of oil NOT do so at a hundred miles an hour.
![quote-america-is-built-on-speed-hot-nasty-badass-speed-eleanor-roosevelt-56-40-85[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1v5zVis.jpg "quote-america-is-built-on-speed-hot-nasty-badass-speed-eleanor-roosevelt-56-40-85[1].jpg")
>>51959130
>but I'd rather the train hauling fifty thousand gallons of oil NOT do so at a hundred miles an hour.
Get the fuck out here Gommunist.
>>51959033
She should go Rosa Parks on those white oppressors.
don't worry, you euroshits can copy us once it's developed, like you do with all our tech
>>51954449
Japan is the best desu
>>51956261
>being a lickspittle even when one of ours gets upset like that
>>51959207
Implying Elon Musk isn't a scam artist.
>>51959207
>Hyperloop
It gonna be at least 20-30 years before it we'll be able to travel even regionally in one.
>>51958760
Japanese luxury trains are more advanced than that.
Mexico will have a hst in 2016 obese gringos
>>51959207
>hyberloob :D :D :D
>>51959310
>Implying Elon Musk isn't a scam artist.
WE AFRIKANERS WILL COME INTO YOUR COUNTRY, TAKE YOUR WOMEN, TAKE YOUR MONEY, BUY ALL THE BEST PROPERTY AND YOU WILL FUCKING LIKE IT.
REPEAT AFTER ME: YOU. WILL. FUCKING. LIKE. IT.
>>51959412
>USA BTFO
>b.. bu..but Japan
BUT STFU!
>>51954449
Slow, isn't so bad.
>$99 to fly from NYC to Chicago
>2 hours
>$250 to train from NYC to Chicago
>24 hours
I know which one I'm gonna take
would you let me sit next to you?
>>51959556
Because your country is too retarded and refuses to invest in high spped rail.
>>51954449
>tfw people unironically are unaware that public transportation in the US was sabotaged because the cities were designed primarily around car usage
>>51959609
Our country is too big for it. Fuel is also cheap as we have Canada above us and we are set to become the leading producers of oil
Trains aren't needed.
>>51959634
i blame california
Only like twelve cities in the entire country even have metro rail. Our infrastructure's a fucking joke
![supertrain_432539a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bV4nahe.jpg "supertrain_432539a[1].jpg")
where were you when europoors were btfo
>>51959673
this is punishment for the colorblind
>>51959652
>set to become the leading producers of oil
Not at current price rates. All your fracking hype is dead. The companies have all gone bankrupt.
>>51959712
AFRIKANER BRILLIANCE ON DISPLAY
>>51959556
>250 hours to train from NYC to Chicago
>Get actually decent meals, can read, play games, plenty of leg room, sleep, not cramped, no huge security checks, don't have to touch thighs with tardlards
>>51958297
>5 hour drive
We are talking about LONG distances finny boy
>>51958275
The Pacific Surfliner is great. Not fast, but that scenery is hard to beat.
>>51959609
Read the thread nigger. NYC to Chicago is too far for HSr to be competitive. It is a proven fact that every place that has HSR, it is only competitive with airlines at distances under 500 miles. New York to Chicago by land is almost 800 miles.
Hop a freight train like a real American.
>>51959634
The Streetcar Conspiracy is vastly overstated. Only a small number of systems were actually sabotaged by GM. The vast majority went out of business when they had to start actually paying for electricity.
>>51959712
Never going to happen. He flat out lied about the cost.
>>51960686
>I don't understand that public transport is a public good and often loses money in civilized cities
>I want parks and elementary schools to make money
>>51954449
It take a week to cross the country
>Also runs on Maple syrup and Natives Tears.
>>51954449
>Russia
TOPKEKS
>>51960731
I don't think you understand that streetcars were almost all privately operated companies. They weren't public in the way that most buses, metros, etc are today.
Good try though, champ.
>>51960785
>Good try though, champ.
I'm not giving up on this one. They should have been taken over by the municipality if they were private at the time.
>>51957708
There would be bridges to China. Like from us to Crimea...
>>51960731
Streetcars weren't public (i.e. government owned/operated) for the most part.
>>51960677
who /gutterpunk/ here?
>>51960773
I found a russian train.
>>51960829
When has that ever happened? What city bought out private companies operating existing transit in order to make that transit publicly owned?
>>51954449
You forgot about Austrlia.
Choo choo motherfuckers.
(Seriously we still have running steam trains)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-B1hzlgPg
>>51960894
Well it turns out my city did. And we're a rare city in north america with trams. kek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Transit_Commission
Public transit in Toronto started in 1849 with a privately operated transit service. In later years, the city operated some routes, but in 1921 assumed control over all routes and formed the Toronto Transportation Commission to operate them.
>>51960951
And yet the rail transit systems in the Toronto area are still shit.
This is now a vagabond thread.
>>51960994
I like it. We're also getting new street cars. I live in one of the old street car suburbs (Parkdale).
>>51961030
Toronto is a huge metro area and has a very limited rail transit system. It's worse than a bunch of US metro areas. ANd that's really saying something.
>>51960885
Seems legit.
>Russia
>>51954449
To be honest, Sapsan is pretty expensive and most people use usual trains.
Trans-Siberian Railway: Beijing to Moscow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnecpolZdc
>>51961051
Yeah but I'm lucky to live near downtown.
The suburban cities have their own public transit systems. Mississauga's is total shit, for example.
>>51961107
At least now we have comfier benches.
>>51961107
This is suburban train, actually. You should post something like this.
Trains are super great because although the plane flight is much quicker, the time taken to get to/from the airport (normally on the outskirts of town), check in, go through security, wait to board and take off, land and park, and collect all your shit all adds up.
Trains you can arrive at the station 5 mins before it leaves, often the biggest station is in the middle of town, as soon as it stops you jump straight off with your bags and you're already where you want to be. Trade off occurs at around a 2 hr plane flight IMO.
Don't let the Americans get a hold of high speed rail they'll ruin it.
>>51961216
Too late. Already got a 220 mph HSR system under construction in California.
>>51961127
One day I'll do this. For now I've only traveled half way from Novosibirsk to Moscow and back.
>>51959634
East Coast you stupid nigger
Australia is exactly the same way, except you don't have an eastern coast with with good transit.
>>51961312
I hope to do it too and take a train all the way from Helsinki through Russia and China to India or to Singapore.
There's no reason why the uper east coast shouldn't have high speed trains
>>51961475
It does have pseudo-HSR.
![p1100445[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m0F5dLo.jpg "p1100445[1].jpg")
op is liar
murica has same shit that europe and asia
>>51954449
>Too many mountains, and too sparsely populated for it to be considered cost efficient to have a national high speed train network
>Only city in Norway that will be connected to the inter-European high speed train network is Oslo
>mfw Americans will never know the feeling to not rely on a car for transportation
Listen up here, you foreigners.
America is different from other nations in the sense that here, there is a wild west mentality, that you have to get yourself in transit to and from other places. You have to do it yourself.
pic related, still does not describe our roadway systems.
Look on maps at our system of roads and highways, you will see everyone has a car and only major cities (which are few and far between) have mass public transit. Cities and towns are not close and cozy like in France or UK, but bigger and more spread out (kind of like the people here.) You NEED a car to travel medium distances, the doctors office is usually more than 4 miles from your house, or your job 8 miles, with transit only in big/medium large cities.
What I am getting at here is that in America, YOU NEED A CAR TO GET AROUND. and it's not because we're fat
![1409206162847[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lupaADC.png "1409206162847[1].png")
>>51962956
>and it's not because we're fat
>>51962956
>it's not because we're fat
Well, I would need proofs on that...
But you're generally right. HSR networks are not for large countries like Murrica. Although maybe they would work well in some parts of the country, like on northeast, interconnecting all the big cities there, Boston, NY, Philadelphia, Washington, Baltimore and so on.
>>51961162
Seems like a terrible place for a tall person.
>>51961660
>"haha americans suck"
>posts image prominently featuring american sports team
>>51954449
We too have a maymay bullet train and it already managed to score a kill against a 26 year old woman. :-{D
![38d1ec0cf9ea4dc5bdc6608ce99f0415[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ojjlue5.jpg "38d1ec0cf9ea4dc5bdc6608ce99f0415[1].jpg")
Who /soviet-era trains/ here?
>>51965927
My favourite were the double decker wagons which I used to see occasionally while in northern Poland.
Why would you sit on a germ infested seat next to a filthy foreign peasant with hoof and mouth disease? Do you enjoy stepping on sticky urine soaked floors while gypsies shove their hands in your pockets and beg for the money you saved not buying that car?
>>51958626
RARE FLAG
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![B9318415046Z.1_20150811164205_000_G8RBJLF2R.1-0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w4EjXgP.jpg "B9318415046Z.1_20150811164205_000_G8RBJLF2R.1-0[1].jpg")
>his city doesnt have bus rapid transit
>>51955619
An old wisdow says that 600 miles is the break. Less and you want a train, more and a plane.
>>51970356
I know and I am asspained about it.
>mfw Americans are so fat they have to use diesel-powered heavy duty freight trains to travel
>>51960830
300 km bridge?
