The 2015 Cadillac CTS V outperforms the BMW M3 and a Mercedes AMG c63 S. Aren't Germans supposed to be good engineers? How did they let us filthy amerifats defeat them so embarrassingly at their own game?
http://www.motortrend.com/news/bmw-m3-vs-cadillac-ats-v-sedan-vs-mercedes-amg-c63-s-comparison/
Hahaha really?? LMAOing at your life right now, Klaus und Hans
>>51931457
Cadillac stepped up their game big time and German '''''''engineering'''''' has been lacking for a while.
Too bad the Cadillac is ugly
Good luck affording a CTS V
Surprise surprise, """""""refugees""""""" don't make good cars
>>51931832
It's only bound to get worse as their perfect Aryan genes get çucked out of existence by the millions of brown cocks streaming across the border.
The question remains: after the cultural and racial shift, what will Germans be known for? Y'know, after Americans claim the title as best automakers.
>>51931883
I have to question your taste, Jean-Baptiste. The caddy looks absolutely gorgeous, especially under the hood.
Also, what French car has any kind of international acclaim?
>>51931457
Enjoy your slow gearbox and engine cooling problems.
>>51931893
If you're in the market for an M3 or Mercedes AMG, then you can afford a CTS V
>>51932212
Enjoy your slower cornering, braking, acceleration, and 1/4 mile speed.
>>51931457
Wish I had money to afford Cadillac one day.
I think american cars lack personality. They're all the same.
>>51932529
Move to the land of opportunity, Teemu. Either that or get a job, you NEETbux will never be able to get you the things you want in life.
>>51932660
They tried to market them once here, no body bought them, their prices went down literally over weeks, their quality is shit tbf
>>51932585
>thinks American cars look the same
>posts a BMW
Hahahahahahahahaha really?? Wow Berthold, the irony is so great it quakes the earth.
Look! Its an /o/tist who got lost! Let me show you the way out:
>>>/o/
>>>/fur/
Unfortunately Audi, Mercedes, and BMW are getting worse and worse each year in quality in America. We thinking of buying German but I'm having second thoughts
>>51932718
How long ago was this? Admittedly American cars were shitty until very recently. In around 2010, American cars started trying to compete internationally, and now they are objectively the best cars on the planet.
Besides, who in Palestine has enough money for a horse-drawn rickshaw, let alone an actual car?
>>51932894
Go french, friend, Bugatti
>>51932978
Lol I can't afford that.
>>51932955
around 2009/2010
Chevy did better than Cadillac though
>>51933009
Then get something made in your country because why would you ever choose something foreign over something from where you live ?
Pro tip for our Euro friends here, Cadillac and Tesla are the only companies that make quality cars. Don't buy any other American car if you don't like to fix it on the side of the road.
>>51932800
This thread is bantering German engineering while providing specific examples. If I actually wanted to talk about cars I would post it there.
>>51931457
Germany is a shadow of what it used to be.
Just leave us be.
The least you can do is let us die in peace.
>comparing $60k cars to a $80k car
Why is this allowed?
>>51933102
I will leave you to it then
>>51933057
Because I've had two chargers that were shit. 2008 and 2011 both had problems early on. I take care of my cars and get maintained by professionals at the dealership and still had problems with it.
My grandfather imported his BMW's from Germany and decades later he didn't have major problems with it.
>>51933238
Then get Toyota or Hyundai
>>51932978
Bugatti is only French by proxy. Created by an Italian in a then-german city, it was bought out in the 1960s and revived in the 90s by Italians, and now its owned by Volkswagon.
It looks hideous desu, and won't ever match the pedigree the M3 has. Let alone the build quality and refinement the German sport sedans have
But I do really like the new Mustang and the Challenger
>>51933301
Hyundai is shit and Toyota doesn't make cars fast enough. I want something with a bit of power
>>51933424
kek so you can drive on your 120km/h max roads ?
>>51933238
Dodge sucks. Try a Ford. They new Ford Focus is an incredible car. Quick, reliable, good gas mileage.
>>51933789
The Ford Focus doesn't count as American desu
>>51933424
Try a Honda. They make the Civic Si and Accord V6, both are pretty quick. My first car was a 1994 Civic and that car drove incredibly smooth and reliably, Hondas are GOAT old cars.
>>51933960
>designed by American engineers
>made by an American car manufacturer
>assembled in factories all over the world, including in Michigan.
Why isn't it considered American again?
>>51933358
Of course caddy can match the pedigree of BMW. They are both venerable automakers. BMW has a better history for making fast, reliable cars, but only time will tell how well the Cadillac stands against the sands of time.
>>51932585
>lack personality
>posts BMW
I can't even tell apart a 1 series from a 3, 4 , or 5 series
Deutsche Ingenieurung?
doch Scheissegal
>>51934325
It is developed by Ford of Europe, party in the UK and party in Germany. Design is also European (Kinetic Design). I think the engines are different though.
>>51934455
I was talking about the pedigree of the M3 itself
>>51934849
>party
lel, I meant partly
>>51934849
Cool, I didn't know that. Still, Ford of Europe is still under direct supervision of their American bosses (just like real Europe)
>American """cars"""
>>51934849
Of course the M3 has a longer pedigree than the CTS V. That doesn't mean that the M3 will always and forever be better than Caddy.
>>51932779
you think you know german names don't you?
still like bmw, sorry.
>>51935257
Did you read the article though? This is the point I'm trying to make, American "cars" are currently going through a renaissance. When an American coupe outperforms an M3, it is an historic event. When that same vehicle also bests the mad men in the AMG department, it becomes the stuff of legend.
>>51935286
By the time that could theoretically happen, we'll all be driving electric or at the least hybrid
American Multipla when?
>>51935412
Reiner, if you like inferior cars that's your right.
>>51935531
Probably a Volt or Focus right?
>>51935579
>Honk honk
>>51935850
Lmao I was just about to post an Aztek. This car is the reason why Pontiac didnt make it through the American Automobile Manufacturer's Revolution of the 21st Century
>>51931457
>The 2015 Cadillac CTS V outperforms the BMW M3 and a Mercedes AMG c63 S.
And costs about 20k bucks more.
Murrican """""efficiency""""
>>51935961
>tfw there are ppl who drive aztek in Poland right now
step 1.
kidnap germans
step 2.
brainwash all germans in germany with cŭckold anti-german propaganda
step 3.
pump germans in America full of amphetamines and spend billions on educating them while letting them live in one of the most nationalist countries in the world
>>51936371
How?? I can't remember the last time I saw one in America. I thought they would have all died by now.
>>51933135
hey germany as guy from country that died completly from commies i gonna say to you: nothing gonna be better. cry. cry hard. lie on floor and cry. this will be worst and worst. cry. if this started it will never be back in foreseeable future. cry my friend.
>>51937116
Lmao I cannot wait for the eurozone to collapse. America has only ever been great when it is saving you fuckers from yourselves.
>>51931457
Why should we sell our cars for a lower price? Americans will keep buying overprized german cars because german cars.
nice cockpit bro, is that soft plastic?
>>51941682
>He still puts wood in his shitty cars.
What's it like living in 1859?
>>51941682
>Photoshopped lighting.
BMW looks nice, too bad they are shitty cars.
>>51941682
Top comfy interior in the c-class
>>51931994
the great Kekening
every murrican is free to buy your murrican shit :^)
but nobody in europe or asia or anywhere else would prefer one of youre shitty trashcans before german engineering.
how does this make you feel?
you like driving your corvette or mustang on the highway with like 65mph while we go 200+mph on the autobahn or can actually drive around corners at all?
have fun with youre garbage stupid murrican fags.
at least all youre cars have super-size cupholders :^)
>>51931457
>benchracing
>not kids' stuff
fine stuff is really just pr0n
>>51944601
>He actually believes this
I have bad news for you Hans.
>>51944877
>all this shit looking stuff
do americans have no taste what so ever?
>>51931457
First VW fakes their tests, now this.
Germany what are you doing.
>>51944967
if they had taste then they'd develop culture
and they have no culture
>>51944877
neat sportive cars you have there murrica...
>>51936543
There are plenty of crazy ppl here
>>51932529
>wanting shitty american cars
>>51933539
you'll eventually learn to convert it when you learn some measurements that adults use
just try
>>51945056
>>51944967
>>51945049
>This butthurt that European car manufacturers are losing worldwide to Murricans and Japs.
It's ok m8's, all that matters is that you tried.
>>51945108
Your countrymen do, yes.
>>51944997
They are doing well, just look at your Challenger built on a mercedes W210 E-class platform :^)
pure sex
>>51945230
>you tried
it's difficult when memes rule the market
>>51945320
we prefer jap cars
>>51931457
I want to be American, but I want to die, too.
>>51931457
No one cares besides americans, because it's a GM product, and the world over knows they're pure garbage.
>People arguing about cars they will never be able to afford or even drive
>>51945484
Speak for yourself poorfag
>>51934067
>>51933789
Too small and not quick enough. Thanks for the suggestions though.
>>51932203
lots of them do. They just don't market them to the USA because Americans are the only ones that will buy GM and Chrysler products. Renault is a god tier brand.
>>51945484
i argued about a fiat engine, i can afford that m8
>>51942027
>>51942201
Boys fall the fuck back, you'd gotta admit that german cars are superior to American cars in every way
>>51945522
Never heard of it desu senpai
>>51945542
Anyone can afford that Mario, nobody wants it.
HNNNNNGGGGHH
>>51945656
you see?
>"nobody wants it"
without even thinking even when buying a cheap car
you just proved my point
>1. Your cunt
>2. Do you drive a manual?
>tfw I'm considering to pre-order
>>51945924
How much?
>>51945924
at least you can afford it, you mountain jew
the """"""best""""" alfa i can afford is the mito 1.4 gasoline
kek
>>51945924
mach es nicht dani :P
135 ist vielfach im vorteil.
alternativ 335
>>51945924
>implying the non-QV version won't look butt ugly
There's a reason they haven't released any pics of it in standard trim. But if you have money to afford the QV, then bravo
>>51946004
mach nen /cp/ thread auf, ich langweil mich.
>>51946005
the non qv look better inside because no meme carbon fiber
carbon it's closer to plastic than precious metal or leather, plebs will never understand
>>51946056
done.jpg
>>51946331
danke
>V8 bigger than a truck
>"lmao Germans btfo"
HOL UP IMA CALLING NISSAN
>>51946635
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
>not buying le internet and space mans car
>>51946635
The caddy has a v-6
>>51947268
No it has a supercharged V8
test