How's your national space program coming along?
good
>>51925213
chile has lost 3 satellites IIRC
meanwhile, the US has to send people to the ISS using russian rockets, kek
>>51925589
Ah, poor Ivans. Their once proud space program is nothing but a kek international cargo carrier now.
Space-exploration is a mule's dream
Our future survival lies in exploring the oceans
Not bad. Millons of taxpayers money are being spent on a few priviliged "artists" that do "space art".
>>51925213
pretty good, here is the surface of pluto
>>51925915
Welp, it looks exactly like we expected. A frozen fucking ice rock. Nice waste of taxpayer money guise.
>>51925785
>third worlder logic
>>51925969
you have to pay taxes for your opinion to matter anon
>>51925993
He's being self-deprecating, my child
>>51925993
>tfw you will be forever living in the 3rd world
Could be better, but at least we are the only country capable of space travel.
>>51926103
>never left the solar system
>space travel
>>51925631
rockets ARE cargo carriers, you gigantic retard
>>51926174
Countries without space-faring capabilities need not apply.
>>51925213
i threw a rock really high a few days ago, does that count?
>>51925213
I hope we won't be involved in any stupid meme travels to Monn or Mars in near 100-200 years. It's not practical.
>>51926270
Vat?
I know America needs us for shit but that's about it.
japan resurrected a venus probe a couple days ago
>>51926270
this was yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYa9ZKZeDk
>>51926336
mars is American anyway
>>51926442
>we wuz astronauts an shiet
>>51926384
Japan can resurrect Venus probes, but still can't speak comprehensible English.
>>51926480
any one have prime martian land picked out already?
>>51926480
Oh gee, all those Mars missions and not even one success. Poor you.
>tfw you not only rule earth but the whole solar system
>>51926579
>>51926590
>tyrones on suicide watch
>>51926658
tfw born too soon
>>51926590
>Future
I hope it's Slovenia or Serbia.
>>51926714
and in the wrong country
>>51926772
>he wont know the feeling of eating a burger on mars
fine really
>>51926862
>he'll never know the feeling of going to space
>>51926943
>he doesn't realize im already in space
>New US space mining law to spark interplanetary gold rush
http://phys.org/news/2015-12-space-law-interplanetary-gold.html
>>51926765
what
>>51927040
Tricolor and Chinese flags comboned.
>>51927035
>these sad burger delusions
It's ok, Tyrone, maybe will allow you to hitch rides on our spaceships if you'll promise to be a good boy.
>brazilian space program
>>51927035
is there even a single resource known that's actually cost efficient to mine in space?
>>51927116
too bad it died
>Fobos-Grunt or Phobos-Grunt (Russian: Фoбoc-Гpyнт, literally "Phobos-Ground") was an attempted Russian sample return mission to Phobos, one of the moons of Mars. Fobos-Grunt also carried the Chinese Mars orbiter Yinghuo-1 and the tiny Living Interplanetary Flight Experiment funded by the Planetary Society.[3]
It was launched on 9 November 2011 at 02:16 local time (8 November 2011, 20:16 UTC) from the Baikonur Cosmodrome, but subsequent rocket burns intended to set the craft on a course for Mars failed, leaving it stranded in low Earth orbit.[4][5] Efforts to reactivate the craft were unsuccessful, and it fell back to Earth in an uncontrolled re-entry on 15 January 2012, over the Pacific Ocean west of Chile.[6][7][8][9] The return vehicle was to have returned to Earth in August 2014, carrying up to 200 g of soil from Phobos.
>>51927185
fucking 4chan, that was not my pic.
>>51927237
For whatever reason, Russia has never been able to build a spacecraft bus that can handle the cold and distance of Martian missions. Their largely successful Venus program for comparison probably benefited from shorter distances and more favorable temperatures.
>>51927445
shorter then low earth orbit?
>>51927237
Whatever. Hope they learned their lesson. It's too early for Mars, I prefer real things or real perspectives.
>>51925213
Think the ginger bloke has gone to the ISS.
>>51927445
>favorable temperatures
>Venus
american education strikes again
>>51926590
Why are we not on there?
>>51926590
>>51927578
Oh we are dw
>>51927501
this is why we are called ameriCAN's
not ameriCANT's
NASA Unveils Three-Part Plan to Reach Mars
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/journey-to-mars-next-steps-20151008_508.pdf
>>51926480
are you daft?
Any American in space is called a Astronaut, any Russian/Soviet is called a Cosmonaut, and any Chinese in space is called a Taikonaut
ITT: Russians reminiscing about their past achievements
>>51927628
>American
>in space
pick one
>>51927679
>who is Scott Kelly?
come on now stop throwing shit bait
>>51927578
is britain doing deep space exploration?
>>51927767
We did the Beagle 2 but it was a failure.
>>51927628
how are brits in space called?
allahstronauts
>>51927978
Kek, good one, I'm an american stationed at a RAF base here tho
>>51927792
why didn't Britain start traveling in space before the ESA? strange from a country that benefited so greatly from early exploration.
>>51927445
> Their largely successful Venus program for comparison probably benefited from shorter distances and more favorable temperatures.
We are thinking about the same high pressure ball of hot acid clouds?
various tech
nothing fancy like manned travel
>>51928113
In terms of the journey out there. Mars is nearly twice as far from the Earth as Venus, it's cold as fuck, and there's less sunlight.
>>51927445
>Venus
>more favorable temperatures
American education is on the loose again.
>>51927642
The space race was akin to a football game where the Russians get off to an early lead, then in the second half fumbled the ball and threw a pick six that was returned for a touchdown. Also their running back tore his ACL.
>>51927642
>Balts
>Any achievements
>Ever
>>51928335
Again, I'm not referring to landing on Venus, I'm talking orbit/flyby missions.
>>51928398
>inb4 Yuropoors complaining that they don't understand American football terminology
>>51928505
Yeah but then if they used divegrass terminology, I wouldn't understand that so w/e.
We never did try a Venus lander. I guess they didn't think it was worth it to get back three pictures before the probe was destroyed by the extreme heat and pressure.
>>51925213
Let's be honest, after the space race was over with death of on of racers all space programs turned to shit. It turned out without massive government spendings capitalism sucks in exploration of something really new and risky and government doesn't need it since it doesn't need to keep their people from revolution anymore. They even stopping sharing of wealth with population. Real income of american family is only decreasing since 1991.
>>51928444
>I'm talking orbit/flyby missions
So you are not only an ignoramus incapable of admitting his own mistakes, but also have zero idea on the matter of the subject you are trying to argue about?
it's up and running.
we're currently at the point of preparing a software for satellites.
>>51927614
Tl;dr. What's the point of reaching Mars now without any technology capable of diong anything good for you?
>>51928826
when?
>>51928965
soft should be ready in the following year...
In 1971, the US and USSR were in a race to the Red Planet and the Soviet efforts were considerably more ambitious than NASA's Mariner 9 probe. While Mariner 9 was merely an orbiter, Mars 2-3 contained full-fledged orbiters and landers, the latter of which had a small rover with them.
Unfortunately, Soviet ambitions outstripped their technical capabilities. When the armada of US and Soviet probes reached Mars, the planet was engulfed in a raging dust storm. No problem for NASA, they merely put Mariner 9 into standby mode until things had cleared up. The Soviet probes for comparison could not be reprogrammed by ground controllers, so as soon as they reached Martian orbit, they immediately began taking photographs which wasted large amounts of attitude control gas taking pics of dust clouds.
The landers were even less successful than that - Mars 2's lander entered the dust clouds billowing around the planet and contact was lost during descent. The fate of the lander is unknown. Meanwhile, Mars 3's lander achieved touchdown - the first manmade object to reach the surface of Mars. However, contact was lost after 15 minutes of data transmission and no usable photographs were returned. One image was transmitted that vaguely resembled the Martian surface and sky, but technicians concluded that it was simply static.
>>51928965
37 years ago.
I'm waiting on funding to buy more balloons.
>>51928822
>So you are not only an ignoramus incapable of admitting his own mistakes, but also have zero idea on the matter of the subject you are trying to argue about?
>projecting this hard
Come on now, Mustafa. You didn't receive refugee status and a free laptop courtesy of the German taxpayer to shitpost.
Wonderful.
>>51929060
u jelly?
>>51929274
>the only of my countrymen to go into space had to use a rocket and spacecraft made by his country's greatest foe
>>51928241
>Mars is nearly twice as far from the Earth as Venus, and there's less sunlight.
Ok, that's fine, but...
> it's cold as fuck
In space lose heat is a bigger problem than not freeze to death, so going towards the main source of heat in the solar system is not exactly an advantages.
>>51929124
Do you really want to proceed on embarrassing yourself this hard? Okay then. If you were "talking orbit/flyby missions", how much easier they were when compared to Mars missions and how this was the reason Soviets concentrated their efforts on Venus instead, name me a single successful Venus orbit/flyby mission executed by the Soviets before they landed on the surface of the planet. I'll wait. Oh wait, I won't. The answer is that no such mission existed. Now go read a fucking book, pretentious unitedstatian imbecile.
>>51929341
>who is james pawelczyk
>>51929341
>Russia is Poland's greatest foe
This is what dumbfuckistanian burgershit amerilards actually want you to believe.
>>51929519
i've wondered about this from some time now.
we (i mean poland) fell in the same time as america rose to power...
world abhors a vacuum
>>51925969
Someone noted that you could pay 8-9 New Horizons with the money spent to buy King. Personally, only 1 mission entertained me way more than Candy crush ever did.
>>51929415
I probably have more knowledge of the history of space exploration in one finger than most have in their enti...well, it's a moot point since Turkey or wherever your country of origin is cannot into space or indoor plumbing anyway.
Keep the sandnig asylum seekers coming, Angela. :^)
>>51929157
source?
>>51929519
>>51929415
>all those successful German missions
>things that never happened
pick 1
>>51926037
>public spending boosts GDP
Who woulda guessed?!?
Doesn't mean that public spending adds more value than private spending.
>>51929415
Not same guy but they probably had a lot of technical issues if this is in the early days of the program.
>>51926394
>Using an array of six 4K+ cameras, Harmonic documented the Dec. 6 launch of Orbital ATK’s commercial resupply mission to the International Space Station from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. Capturing footage at Ultra High Definition with high frame rate and in high dynamic range (HDR) options.
>>51930094
He might be referring to the first Soviet Venus probes such as Venera 1 that were flyby and all failed. The second wave (mid-1960s) had landers.
The US program flew all of two Venus probes during the first 20 years of space exploration - Mariner 2 in 1962 and Mariner 5 in 1967 and these were both flyby-only. After that, the Pioneer Venus probes in the late 70s and Magellan in 1989. NASA never bothered too much with Venus compared to the flurry of Soviet probes.
>>51930081
>private spending took us to the moon, mars, Pluto, Jupiter, Saturn. etc.
if the moon mission was private, the info would be copyrighted and the cool inventions that became public would be locked away behind some corporate paywall.
no thanks shill, the problem with American space travel is the ULA that is made up private companies
>>51928398
its akin to a speed race which russia won, and retired from ever racing due to injured knee, but americans kept running even after the end line so they think they won something. In reality the race was over a long time ago, but americans keep telling themselves they run farther so they must have won.
>>51930441
>injured knee
the soviet union died anon
>>51930441
>underage anti-US Panamian
Just use a trip and be done with it, man. You're already a de-facto tripfag
>>51929882
>>51930045
Tip top kekkity kek.
>>51930094
Everyone had a lot of technical issues on the eve of space exploration. The point is that Soviet flyby and orbit missions to both Mars and Venus failed equally during the same time period.
>>51930516
>>51930548
didnt even say anything overly insulting, what an oversensitive fagturd
>>51930951
The thing is, the Soviet Mars program continued failing. They somehow just couldn't build a probe that could handle the cold and long distance.
It's ok tbqh
>>51931103
A lot of their problems were due to launches being rushed by the Kremlin to meet political goals. Engineers interviewed after the fall of the USSR admitted that they pretty much knew the probes wouldn't succeed.
>>51926103
> He hasn't even been to the moon yet.
>>51931368
Well, yeah. As I said, the 1971 Mars probes were considerably more ambitious than Mariner 9, but they were not only rushing the things, Soviet tech was less advanced than ours to begin with. The Viking and outer planet probes were beyond their capabilities.
NASA for comparison didn't rush thing so much, they waited a few more years to attempt a Mars lander.
>>51926206
And any dumb shit like yourself can put a giant rocket together for meme space travel.
>>51926336
> not practical
Oh, you are so sad, Russkie. Enjoy your poverty.
>>51931103
That is because they stopped giving a shit about a piece of a dead red stone after preforming a successful landing on a planet with rivers of lava under the tremendously pressured clouds of boiling acid and sulfur.
>>51931637
so you don't mind if we take that whole dead red stone?
>>51926480
> His empire doesn't even extend to other continents, let alone planets.
Holy shit.
>>51931520
>Soviet tech was less advanced than ours to begin with
Cool story.
>>51926590
Open up, Ivan.
>>51931792
Vat.
>>51931792
the real reason the soviets stopped going to mars was because it looked just as depressing as Russia
>>51931717
>Can't even deliver people to orbit
>Claims Mars
Call me back when you'll get California back.
>>51925969
>collecting data is bad
You are a shame to mehirica
>>51932037
Call me when you get your...
Oh fuck it. It's just too easy and too depressing.
>>51932037
so you have nothing to worry about then, right?
>>51932149
The difference is that even if you still had a chance to attempt to try to get your country back, there would be nothing to get back on the first place.
>>51932331
>look, America is last again. right behind Germany
>things no has said ever
>>51929882
>>51932462
Dude, that guy is the Russian diaspora shillbot. He sometimes also posts with a Finnish proxy. The autist will spend 7-8 hours a day on /int/ spamming RT propaganda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record
>The first thing extraterrestrials will find from our planet is a message written by and spoken by an American president.
>The very first thing that aliens will learn about our planet is the name of an American
>tfw the USA is responsible for the preservation of human cultural knowledge
>tfw America is officially Earths designated interstellar diplomat and will be remembered throughout all time and space
>>51932570
lol, that's even worse
>>51932462
>Italy, Mexico, Brazil, India and Spain above Russia
>>51932570
>Make a retarded claim
>Shit himself
>HURR DURR PROXYPUTIN
The last resort of the dumbfuckistanian burgershit amerilard.
>>51932624
Ayyyyyyy
>>51932624
>aliens
>>51932774
>tfw dumbfuckistanian burgershit amerilards will rule the solar system
>soviet union imploded before completing 100 years
>>51931546
except NASA.
>>51932912
#Extraterrestrialswelcome
#NotallXenos
>>51932951
>Can't even deliver people to orbit
>Claims the Solar System
>>51932663
https://desustorage.org/int/thread/51725808/#q51725808
This is a spam thread he made the other day.
>>51926174
>>51926394
>>51926442
>>51926579
>>51926590
>>51926652
>>51926714
>>51926862
>>51927035
>>51927237
>>51927614
NASA can't put an astronaut in ISS
and you are bragging about that, top fucking cu.cks
>>51933069
>cant run a country let alone their space program
>>51931618
If you want to advocate travels to another planets, give some facts. They may be profitable after 100-300 years, now it's better to focus on near orbital things. Don't be triggered please, I don't mean we shouldn't dsicover any opportunities but flying to another planets gives you nothing yet.
>>51928018
Too busy kucking Earth.
Skylon
EM drive
And some other things to do with space and that's only within the first 2 years of actually bothering with space.
Oh yeah and something to do with using negative energy to open up mini wormholes to shine light down them.
And some thing with higgs boson and matter manipulation. Looking for the Higgs particulate which is supposed to unlock answers for time travel/going back in time but I forget.
There's too much space stuff in a short space of time.
Oh and we have numerous satellites in space, google Skynet satellite.
>>51933149
>NASA can't put an astronaut in ISS
Well no, they turned over routine LEO missions to SpaceX so they could focus on planetary and whatnot exploration.
>>51933149
>the ISS was just found in space
Freedom Station when
>>51933315
and yet NASA can't put an astronaut in ISS
shows how reliable and useful your rockets are
reminder: the best rocket engines ever made are soviet rockets, made some 40(?) years ago.
>>51933391
Just undock the mirII. I also prefer the "tower" design
>>51933450
>reminder: the best rocket engines ever made are soviet rockets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N1_(rocket)
>>51933450
>and yet NASA can't put an astronaut in ISS
I just said that. SpaceX was given that duty.
>reminder: the best rocket engines ever made are soviet rockets, made some 40(?) years ago
Which engines are those? I don't think any 40 year old tech would surpass modern standards.
>>51933450
>if only American rockets were as good as Chilean rockets
>>51933564
>he doesnt know that closed cycle engines are the most efficient ones to this day and all based on the ones used on the n1
>>51933564
>>51933704
The engines weren't the problem with the N-1, it was the idiotic decision to put 30 of them on one rocket stage. Thank you, Korolev (yes that was his fault because he didn't want to use the UR-700 design).
>>51926442
>
>can't even send people to low earth orbit without russians
>>51933704
cute
>>51933564
Also lol again at that claim.
>The Saturn V also had a superior reliability record: it never lost a payload in two development and eleven operational launches, while four N1 development launch attempts all resulted in failure, with two payload losses.
>>51933704
Too bad they are't put to use.
>To date, the Saturn V remains the only launch vehicle able to transport human beings beyond low Earth orbit. A total of 24 astronauts were launched to the Moon, three of them twice, in the four years spanning December 1968 through December 1972.
>>51933805
>>51933832
>To date, the Saturn V remains the ONLY launch vehicle able to transport human beings beyond low Earth orbit.
>ONLY
>ONLY
>ONLY
>>51933805
>repeating stale may-mays
>cant even send people anywhere
>>51933612
the FACT is that NASA, nor anyone in the US or the world, can do what the russians are doing now. whoever is in charge doesn't matter.
>Which engines are those?
see >>51933564 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RD-180 . there are some videos in youtube about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbl_ofF3AM
>I don't think
we don't expect murricans to think
>40 year old tech would surpass modern standards.
these rocket engines were being bought by US space companies not a long ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RD-180#2014_availability_concerns
>>51933897
>>51933881
>“On a per-seat basis, it costs approximately $81 million to send an American astronaut to the Space Station on the Russian Soyuz aircraft."
>spacekeked by Ivans
>>51934038
this
>American "rockets" use RD-180, SOVIET MADE ROCKET ENGINES
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHH
>>51933832
Ofc they only flew 13 of them and the original plan was for the Saturn family to be our general purpose heavy lifter well into the 80s. If they'd done that, there would inevitably be a failed launch at some point.
>>51934038
>>51934122
>>51934185
>Russiashills can't even build manned rockets that take people past low Earth orbit.
>M-muh engines
Embarrassing
>>51934185
>>51934122
>>51934038
>>51933704
>RIDF spammer rekt so hard that he starts using proxies to samefag
Come on, dude. You can do better than this.
>>51934250
>implying muricans can
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHH
>>51934410
>ONLY
>ONLY
>ONLY
>ONLY
>ONLY
>ONLY
>ONLY
>ONLY
>>51934410
Just stop m8 please, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>51934253
Actually no he can't.
>>51934253
>being this paranoid
>muh conspirancy
don't you have an school to shoot?
there is a saying in my country:
only thiefs mistrust other people, because they know very well what thieves do.
replace thieves with conspirancists, and you get murican politics
>>51934491
>implying it works
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHH
>>51925213
>This fucking thread
>>51934588
>Implying it works.
>
To date, the Saturn V remains the only launch vehicle able to transport human beings beyond low Earth orbit. A total of 24 astronauts were launched to the Moon, three of them twice, in the four years spanning December 1968 through December 1972
>>51926590
>clearly showing that the first lander on mars was russian
???
>>51934720
>it worked, therefore it works
murican logic >>51934738
>>51934738
>Ameriblinds
>>51934185
funny thing is they still blow up too
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB12367224787933994021304581062191281870326
ive read that the reason why the US buys Russian rocket engines is that after the soviet collapse the US gov was worried that Russian rocket experts would go to places like North Korea or Iran to build rockets for them because of the massive collapse in the soviet economy. so they buy their engines because they are sound designs (180+ successful launches) and work. nationalism in science and engineering is pointless ( only retards get emotionally invested in designs). use what works, what you do with them is what matters. sanctions killed this joint cooperative venture any way tho
>>51934738
Yeah the lander that died in 15 seconds and returned no usable data.
>>51925213
Skylon finally got it's £60 million government funding last month.
They've built a small mockup of the engine which has successfully run several times.
Reaction Engines are now in the process of building a full scale engine, which should be ready within a few years.
Slightly less to do with my cunt, but the Em drive was shown to work again by NASA. Everyone's still scratching their heads and throwing clipboards at each other while trying to figure out why it works. Happy days all around.
>>51934820
>it works, therefore it works
>It didn't happen because I said so
>>51934856
>nationalism in science and engineering is pointless ( only retards get emotionally invested in designs)
I think what you mean to say is, today's space exploration is more globalist and of course you're not gonna still run things like 1965.
>>51934856
>nationalism in science and engineering is pointless ( only retards get emotionally invested in designs). use what works, what you do with them is what matters.
bantz aside, this is true
what did the roscosmos engineers do when the USSR collapsed?
>>51925213
>How's your national space program coming along?
really slow, the first paraguayan satellite will be launched from Argentina only in 2018, and it's supposed to be a weather satellite only
>>51935024
squatted
>>51926575
What's wrong with what he posted?
>>51934899
Em drive was invented by an Englishmen.
And do not forget Higgs field.
Once it is fully unlocked we will be able to convert matter into more than the current 4 states that we can.
And!!! WORMHOLES BABY! CLOSED TIMELINE CURVES UTILIZING NEGATIVE ENERGY!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH YEAH!!!
Roscosmos is having a lot of problems anyway due to brain drain. All the old space program engineers from the 60s-80s have retired or passed on by now and there's nothing but bydlo running the thing.
The '13 Proton crash was found to be due to an incorrectly installed guidance package because apparently some woefully underpaid and extremely butthurt grunt purposely put it in upside down.
>>51935068
>>51926575
All the more weird considering most of them are English teachers.
>>51925213
We LITERALLY had to beg India to launch our first satellite for us
Feels bad man
>The nation's latest satellites, VELOX-I and VELOX-PIII, were launched into space on India's Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle PSLV C-23 at 9.52 am (12.21 pm Singapore time), on Monday, 30 June 2014.
>>51934856
>ive read that the reason why the US buys Russian rocket engines is that after the soviet collapse the US gov was worried that Russian rocket experts would go to places like North Korea or Iran
the US bought the rockets because they are much more efficient than the rest.
>>51934899
>>51935068
even a few scientists/engineers in the UK can surpass the US on research&development
>>51934950
>"worked" means "works"
top kek, muricans can't handle the truth
>>51935111
Go away Kim, go work on your Hydrogen bomb.
LEL.
>>51934869
the second lander on mars was russian as well
>>51935179
Mars 6? Died before touchdown could be achieved. Fate unknown, although it could have soft-landed.
Properly speaking, Viking 1 was the second lander on Mars.
>Over 30,000 man-made ‘stars' have now been created by experiments inside MAST.
http://www.ccfe.ac.uk/MAST.aspx
Germany made their first "star" today.
Bless them.
Catch up world, you will never beat England in terms of science. We're ugly so we have no choice but to turn to science.
>>51935166
The amount of cognitive dissonance needed to believe this is utterly baffling. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad
Let me guess, you also believe Stanly Kubrick filmed the Apollo 11 landing too?
>>51935390
>The amount of cognitive dissonance needed to believe this is utterly baffling.
what are you talking about? I can't guess from that butthurt response, m8
>>51935549
>what are you talking about?
We don't expect Chileans to understand English here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_research
>>51935689
wait, wasn't I a russian shill behind a proxy?
anyway,
>research
>working now.
for the n-th time: TODAY, you STILL depend on ther RUSSIANS to send PEOPLE to the ISS
are you retarded? this is not difficult to understand. you can't even do this, and you are bragging about mars.
as >>51931546 said,
>And any dumb shit like yourself can put a giant rocket together for meme space travel.
>>51935853
>wait, wasn't I a russian shill behind a proxy?
That's a different American you were replying to.
>for the n-th time: TODAY, you STILL depend on ther RUSSIANS to send PEOPLE to the ISS
And...? We were just using Russian rockets as a fill-in until the Orion stuff is online.
>>51925213
we have a satellite apparently
http://usa.greekreporter.com/2014/07/14/greek-satellite-in-space-video/
>>51934899
60 million euros is pocket change. for revolutionary tehcnology it sure seesm to be low on funds, wtf is wrong
>>51935853
You also claimed that Russians had the superior rocket tech, yet they couldn't build a manned rocket that worked past low orbit flight.
You then claimed that US RND was shit and I calmly showed you that just isn't the case.
Just give up m8. You're the only one mentioning the ISIS like it's some sort of Russian accomplishment that they get to host a small portion of a space program
Poorly. I'd assume it's because the exploration of space somehow is lower prioritized than multiculturalism and the extinction of the white male.
Yes, I'm mad.
Spacetraveling, white nations fighting each other over who has the best engine, gone where first and furthest.
Cant we just agree not to let muslims leave this planet? Otherwise we have rockets exploding for more reason other than just mechanical failures
>>51936104
Our government is shit when it comes to funding R&D
>>51936243
space is black, lad
can't have white scientists appropriating black culture
>>51936018
>And...?
that has been my whole point all this time...
the OP asked about the national space program, I said muricans can't send people to the ISS, but brag about mars. muricans keep replying "yes we can", I keep saying, "you can't", because YOU CAN'T
>>51936156
>You also claimed that Russians had the superior rocket tech
engine != whole rocket, retard.
>>51936156
>Just give up m8. You're the only one mentioning the ISIS like it's some sort of Russian accomplishment
uhm, are you this retarded? the ISS still IS a BIG accomplishment, after the Mir
We made a space agency.
>>51936322
>I keep saying, "you can't", because YOU CAN'T
We can't do what now?
>>51936322
>muricans keep replying "yes we can", I keep saying, "you can't", because YOU CAN'T
that's American exceptionalism in action
cant isn't in our vocabulary
>>51926103
Well this is horribly untrue.
>>51936322
>engine != whole rocket
Ummm, that's my point.
>uhm, are you this retarded? the ISS still IS a BIG accomplishment, after the Mir
The ISS isn't a Russian accomplishment, like you claim though.
That the Russians get to host the launching capabilities don't mean that they have complete control of the program. It also doesn't discount that American space tech has been on the cutting edge for decades now, and that the US continues to build upon these achievements while other nations cling to past achievements with only a couple of exceptions.
But hey, keep cherrypicking one facet of space travel when you have Voyager still flying across the Milky Way.
>>51936156
russians had better rocket engines, alloys that nasa couldnt reverse engineer, the buran was also superior to the shuttle. those are facts. it wouldnt surprise me that americans made up the story of keeping russian scientists employed as a farce to get the engines and learn about them
>>51936716
Well this is just wrong.
>>51936716
>so superior it rusted away to be eventually destroyed by a ROOF
>>51926103
Are you forgetting your Chinese allies?
>>51936700
>It also doesn't discount that American space tech has been on the cutting edge for decades now, and that the US continues to build upon these achievements while other nations cling to past achievements with only a couple of exceptions
You'd think that the Pluto probe (New Horizons) would be a more impressive/cool achievement than delivering a box of socket wrenches to the ISS.
>>51936678
you're right, the chinese still have the capability with their shenzou program
>>51936938
Space travel, doesn't mean putting people in low earth orbit.
Plus the USA could put people in low earth orbit if we needed to, right now, there is no need to.
>>51936716
Now this is not even good trolling. The Soviets didn't have the manufacturing capability to produce something comparable to the Saturn F-1/J-1, one reason for being forced to put 30 small engines in the N1.
>>51936921
Don't forget the delivery of scientists (you know, human beings) to ISS
>>51936997
#1 launch vehicle on the planet coming through!
>>51937061
What good is it when you don't have working shit now?
>>51937056
Delivering humans to low earth orbit isn't a hard thing to do. Why should NASA waste it's money on it when it's cheaper to pay the Russians to do it, and starting next year Elon Musk.
>>51936716
>russians had better rocket engines, alloys that nasa couldnt reverse engineer
>Well this is just wrong.
How is that wrong? Go check the combustion chamber pressure Russian engines withstand. Then compare it to that of NASA. Then realise how stupid you sound be saying USA has better alloys.
>>51937061
cute toy
>>51937120
What does this even mean?
>>51937127
Bolden said Congress had left the agency with “with no other choice but to write a $490 million check to our Russian counterparts so that we can get our own astronauts to the Space Station,” adding that it didn’t have to be this way and that Congress could still “fix this by investing in Commercial Crew,” which would bring considerable economic benefits and be fiscally responsible.
“On a per-seat basis, it costs approximately $81 million to send an American astronaut to the Space Station on the Russian Soyuz aircraft. By comparison, it will cost $58 million per seat to send our astronauts to ISS on Boeing’s and SpaceX’s spacecrafts, once they are certified,”
>>51936563
>>51936596
exactly. you CAN be this retarded, you actually are.
>>51936700
>Ummm, that's my point.
russians do have the most efficient rocket engines.
>The ISS isn't a Russian accomplishment, like you claim though.
it's a conjoint program, built, at the start, by russians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station#Assembly
>That the Russians get to host the launching capabilities don't mean that they have complete control of the program. It also doesn't discount that American space tech has been on the cutting edge for decades now, and that the US continues to build upon these achievements while other nations cling to past achievements with only a couple of exceptions.
... without them, the astronauts would not be there, there wouldn't be supplies, etc. if this isn't the most vital part of the program, I don't know what is, then.
>>51937127
>Delivering humans to low earth orbit isn't a hard thing to do. Why should NASA waste it's money on it when it's cheaper to pay the Russians to do it, and starting next year Elon Musk.
so, if this isn't hard, why isn't this being done right now?
>cheaper
even after the crimea thing
I just don't get it, why are muricans so retarded and butthurt?
>>51937120
Because they can work in the first place?
>>51936990
everyone in the west "could" if they needed to
and no, you don't get to make up definitions as you go
>>51937228
Yeah, NASA has stated they are done with putting men in low earth orbit. It isn't worth their budget. Let private enterprise take over that job.
You do realize that Boeing and SpaceX are not NASA. They are private companies.
I like how people keep ignoring that America having a temporary capability gap isn't a new thing. There was a similar gap between the Saturn V and the Space Shuttle. We'll be fine once we complete the SLS and Orion, and SpaceX, Boeing, Sierra Nevada, etc. get their entries into CCD completed.
>>51937158
>AMERICABONERENGAGED.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ8jT3KIBIQ
>>51937262
Because NASA doesn't want to spend their money on it. We can cheaply use Russia for now while SpaceX and Boeing finalize their private enterprise LTO options.
>>51937262
And the Saturn Vis the only successful implimentation of those engines that goes beyond low orbit.
Funny how you continue to glorify the Russian space program yet also ignore how they failed to accomplish what the Americans managed to, even with "muh superior engines"
>>51937336
At least you weren't being tasteless and bringing up the Space shuttle disasters.
>>51937319
Is that why NASA cheif blasted the congress over funding shortage?
http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/25/5547404/nasa-chief-uses-tension-with-russia-to-blast-congress-on-space-funding
>>51937319
neither boring nor memex can put people into leo
>>51937336
Shitty Russian made engines. Those idiots at Orbital ATK need to replace them.
>>51937424
>yet also ignore how they failed to accomplish what the Americans managed to, even with "muh superior engines"
>forced to take photos of Martian dust clouds because they couldn't reprogram their probes' computers
Kek.
>>51937479
wut? NASA has been putting a human capable capsule into space for a while now. It's in testing as it's for the moon/mars.
If they had to use it for ISS they could, it just wouldn't be cost effective.
Americans will always find a way to avoid admitting that they're not #1. This is borderline cringeworthy.
>>51937470
Because congress is retarded. For all the fantastic stuff NASA does, they still only get .5 cents on every dollar in the budget plan. On the other hand, we put loads of money into stupid shit like social security and welfare.
>>51937656
How is putting people in LTO make you #1? When you can't even put heavy drones on other planets? Which is more important?
>>51937656
>Americans will always find a way to avoid admitting that they're not #1
I don't see how Roscosmos which is just a kek international cargo carrier now, falling apart from lack of qualified technicians, and flying 50-60 year old rockets and spacecraft #1 of anything.
>>51937656
>Brings up that Russian rockets are shitty and have not once made a successful manned flight beyond low orbit
>avoids this fact
>Claims everyone but him is wrong and butthurt
>>51932624
>implying that will ever get anywhere
>implying the first picture of human the hypothetical aliens get wont be Hitler, as Germany was the first to air video
>>51937667
*That's because
We can't start a sentence with 'because', now can we?
>>51937384
see >>51937228
stop bullshitting
>>51937656
this
man, making these retarded muricans butthurt by showing them fact surely is fun
>>51937814
That's just a shitty elementary school rule. There's no reason why a sentence can't start with "Because."
>>51937810
>thinking that those radio waves will seriously be salvageable after exiting Earth's atmosphere and traveling billions of miles
ISHYGDDT
>>51932624
>>The first thing extraterrestrials will find from our planet is a message written by and spoken by an American president
>implying that aliens, if there is any at all, will understand human languages
>implying that aliens will understand human english, the shittiest human language
>>51933214
>he has to steal another country's space program to get it
What's going to happen to the Russian space program when SpaceX gets certified for crew transport next year? Why would anyone use soyuz at that point?
>>51937829
See
>>51937774
I'm out btw, have better things to do than to deal with butthurt 3rd worlders
Esrange is doing alright I'd say.
