Would you die defending your country?
Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
>>51922228
Military service is one way to defend your country, the hardest one and most necessary, but not the only one. Every bullet fired, every gun, tank and jet has to be designed, its pieces fabricated and assembled. The food that gives soldiers strength has to be grown and harvested. It takes more than soldiers to win a war.
>>51922228
>disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists
not if they have medical conditions that disqualify them
>>51922654
Fuckoff with that pussy shit. I'm talking about paper pushing faggots who want to talk big talk about war without ever doing even basic training. There's loads of them in Finland.
>>51922228
I came to Canada when I was around ten years old. I would fight and kill (and try not to get killed) for my family and my (original) nation but not for Canada.
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your country?
lolno
>Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
I'm neither to be honest.
>>51922821
just another reason why immigrants are utterly useless
I no longer have a country.
>>51922821
What is your nation of origin?
>>51922228
dying for something greater than myself would be great, the whole honour and glory on the battlefield shit appeals to me as i imagine it would to most people but the shame of it is that those of us living in the first world will probably never again have the opportunity to participate in something like that and honestly bleeding out on the side of the road thanks to an ied made by some mudslimistani that id probably never see much less have the opportunity to shoot at or getting torn to shreds by some fuck with a keyboard doesnt really interest me all too much
>>51922228
war is the worst thing for any Patriot, becouse it means their govermant failed.
In time of peace, when county is good organized, hard work for the greatness of nation, building strong economy, this is what it means to be Patriot, what did you do for your country? How posting on this site will make Finland better?
>>51923413
I did my military service and I'm ready and fully trained to defend the country. Weak pussy faggot politicians want to talk shit while they themselves never did military service. It is compulsory here and only faggots and extreme sjw's don't do it but somehow these faggots call themselves right wing Nationalists.
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your country?
No.
>Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
Sure, why not. Only faggots subscribe to such ideals anyway.
>>51923669
t. Swedish faggot.
Pic related is you.
>>51922228
Die for someone else's agenda? I'm not that delusional
>>51922821
Nonwhite detected
>>51922228
No, I'd kill the fuckers invading.
>>51923741
Be careful, you might nettle OP. He's got nothing to live for.
Personally I think defending your nation is a farce, blood is all that matters. What kind of sick fuck would put their country ahead of their family?
>>51923826
Are you retarded Sven?
Your family is supposed to be safe outside warzone while you kill for your country.
>>51923826
Is "nettling" a term I'm not privy to?
What's the context there, rub a word that stings on your skin?
>>51923826
Your family will not be safe if no one defends the country.
how is being a nationalist a good thing
>>51923911
If your country is under direct attack, it'd make sense to defend your country in order to protect your family.
But how are you defending your country if you get sent to Iraq / Afghanistan or any foreign country to fight for politics?
Fuck oath I would,
this cuntry has given me and everyone I know a fair chance to have a great life. It is a beautiful country and I'd risk my life defending it.
Australia for ever!
>>51922228
We live in times where most proxy wars are held by either military jets or drones.
In the future the best war strategy will be destabilizing the whole countries region, like poisoning water sources, shooting psychotronics at people to make them vegetables in seconds...
I don't think ground solders would serve any purpose.
+It's been more of an economical war since the cold war ended.
>>51923867
Hell no, take a look at the sandniggers, do you think they are safer dying for a faction in civil war or fleeing and resettling elsewhere? You've been brainwashed by your government, communist propaganda that says it is noble to forsake your genes and give your only life for political interests instead.
>>51923911
Bullshit. Do you value your culture over the life of your family?
>>51923964
Conscription doesn't require you to do that though.
>>51924046
Drones and jets are still just minimal effort, they can't win a war.
But that's the point, because the real change was nuclear weapons. Full-scale war has simply become completely unsustainable, for better or worse.
>>51923669
>>51923826
>>51924051
SWEDEN
YES
Ready willing and able. I'd die for a friendly nation too if they needed our support and it was a legitimate cause. USA
>>51922228
already in the army and i've nothing better to do
wish there was a war going on because i'm fucking bored
Everyone who doesn't support the Dutch unity and monarchy and would defend it and their fellow countrymen should forfeit their lives desu.
If people want to volunteer to blow themselves up then by all means go ahead I ain't gonna stop you
The only way I'm getting back into the armed forces is through a cushy desk job
>>51924241
>>51924253
>>51924288
>>51924337
>>51924353
>Internet tough guys
What the hell do you know about war, you dumb fucks?
>>51924408
...Their countries have fought in one?
>>51924408
>Swekek
Don't you have a Somalian boyfriend to suck?
>>51924408
more than you obviously
>>51924404
yeah you're a coward, those have always existed
>>51924051
>Do you value your culture over the life of your family?
Let me make it very simple so you can't pull these dumbass mental gymnastics anymore
>Russia attacks
>The Swedish way of life (freedom, peace, wealth) will be gone if they win
>you are defending your country your family doesn't have to live under Russian occupation
>>51924526
A coward with steady income :^)
>>51924567
i'm glad for you, sounds like you've got it all sorted out
>>51924477
Not them, they've lived in peace and luxury. They're spoiled little shits with no grasp of reality.
>>51924491
>>51924498
>>51924526
Pathetic. What are you, 12 years old?
>>51924540
No I'm not, I'm off in Poltava. If I wanted to protect my family I'd stay and protect my family, get them the hell out of there.
>>51924621
>immigrant
opinion eternally discarded
>>51924621
>Pathetic. What are you, 12 years old?
did you not even read my post?
Dulce est pro patria mori.
I am severely handicapped, but I would do anything for my Nation, which paid lot of money in order to make me live.
And I'll pay back as much as I can. Will I be coscripted and sent to battle-ground? Probably not. But an army must eat food, and I can learn. It requires radio-speakers, and I can learn.
>>51924621
>No I'm not, I'm off in Poltava. If I wanted to protect my family I'd stay and protect my family, get them the hell out of there.
fucking lol
wish sweden would just get nuked, none of them deserve to live
>>51924691
>BTFO so hard he has to make shit up
Who is currently using Norway's only braincell?
>>51924699
>>51924738
>BTFO so hard they have to spam memes
Yep, 12 years old. How suitable that only the most worthless people are eager to die.
>>51924621
>>51924776
Don't you have a bull to prep, friend ?
>>51924776
i'm willing to keep replying to you because every time you post you make yourself look more pathetic
The world is too globalised for any serious conflicts anymore. Wars are a thing of the past.
>>51924776
A kekold's opinion is worth 1/10th of a normal human being.
A traitor's is worth nothing.
No need, there will always be dumb plebs to do it for me.
>>51924776
>If something goes bad I'm off to Poltava, literally Russias cocksleeve
>Teenagers
>Having an opinion on war
Tipity toppity kek, go back to playing CoD
>>51924923
i'm trying to understand, are you a veteran or just one of the chronically offended tumblr types?
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your country?
never
>>51922228
Fuck no. Let the idiots in this thread die instead while I'm fucking their gfs.
>itt swedenistan happily demonstrates the cancer of liberalism
thanks swedenistan
>>51925127
t. manlet faggot who's never seen a vagina in his entire life
>>51925137
>Be american
>Get shot in iraq
>Accomplish nothing except make america a bigger target
>>51922875
this
>>51925155
t. keked enlisted mindless follower
>>51923890
To annoy
>>51925270
you sound like a NEET 2bh no wonder you're so worthless
>>51922740
>There's loads of them in Finland
Literally every straight man who isn't physically or politically retarded goes to the army.
I can't think of any sivari or homosexual who would even pretend to be a Patriot or Nationalist if they're not threatened.
Except the minister of defense, of course.
>>51925182
>implying im either american or willing to die in some islamic shithole
stick to prepping the bull friend, its clearly where your talents lie
There is mandatory service here(will be called in 2 years) and I'll open fire then kill myself the moment they hand me a gun.
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your country?
No.
>Patriots and Nationalists?
That two words are insults to me.
Also, I did the military service, was pretty good.
>>51925363
shit plan mate you might as well just do it properly
>>51925363
Reported, enjoy Midnight Express
>>51925336
Were you too fat or too stupid?
I'm not really cut out to be soldier but I would be doing guerilla action until I died. I'm not a bad shot at the firing range but it's a different matter to kill another person invader or not. Plus the targets don't fire back.
>>51925410
Fear the antique G3s
>>51925415
classic jew
>>51925436
is that what that was about?
i had assumed your mother just found me charming
Nationalism is a collectivist cancer, not to unsimilar to white supremacy; a quest for the unearned.
>>51925530
SWEDEN
YES
would rather kill myself than fight for these monkeys desu
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your country?
I would try not to, odd question.
I was in the military, but never really thought much about getting killed.
>Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
No, it's not for everybody.
>>51925530
>collectivist cancer waah waah
>sucks the cock of socialist "solidarity"
>his cunt is full of anarcho-Ulles and Mehmets who assault people for talking about their muh multiculture collectivist cancer
Much less disturbing to support your country than it is to assault your countrymen so Iraq can send their adult manchildren to hunt women at night.
>>51924253
Ever been in the military then?
>these fucking faggots who sit in their momas basement yelling about muh patriotism and oh you're such a coward for not wanting to die for your country
Utterly pathetic.
LITERALLY KILL YOURSELF. TODAY. The world will be better off.
>>51925779
>to assault your countrymen
We don't stab each other, that's just you.
>>51925867
>>51925839
You honestly seem like such a fucking loser
>>51925779
Because there only ever are those two alternatives, right?
>>51925894
Why did you reply to yourself?
>>51924969
He is Swedish, what more needs to be said.
>>51925965
We won the war against obesity, who kicked your asses pretty hard.
>>51925456
Combat shooting is a lot different than range shoot. Marksmanship is important, but there are a lot of other factors.
It's easy for a Finn like you to act like you'd enlist. When your country is actually fighting wars all over the world, the concept of death is a lot more clear.
>>51926020
I consider obesity natural selection. Let the fatties die off.
>>51925911
There's always the look away and hope someone else deals with it, yes.
You normally do have a view one way or the other. It doesn't require fanaticism, so it doesn't have to be obvious, outside Murricah and Swedish Left at least.
>>51922228
I'd love to fight for this country in a real war with real enemies like Caucasians or any aother Muslims to clean it from people who don't belong here. I don't like our politically correct government which reduces Russian influence in every field. It completely stopped any patriotism, damn. Well, maybe I'm exaggerating, just don't like that so many Russians are PC to nations that aren't fond of us.
>>51926020
The "war against obesity" isn't over by FAR and the shit we eat in Sweden will make us fat aswell eventually just not as fast as the Americans
and i live in sevastopol, crimea and 4chan still tell that it belongs to ukraine acording to the flag
yes i would fight for russia
>>51926100
Most expensive death ever. Can't we just let the people below the poverty line eat them?
>>51926177
Fish, potatoes and vegetables?
>>51922228
haha.. no
don't care
>>51926100
Not enough meat, they are all fat remember.
>>51926236
t. m*roccan
>>51926074
Mandatory military service. If push comes to a shove we're gonna fight whether we like it or not.
>Be Sweden
>Living out YES way of life
>Russian military knocks down Finland and charges towards the ancient land of the Vikings
>Swedish citizens utterly shocked and terrified
>Someone suggests that they defend their great country from the invaders in a final stand of nationalism and patriotism
>The crowd of Swedes let out a homosexual giggle at the jest
>"Nationalism is a collectivist cancer, not to unsimilar to white supremacy; a quest for the unearned."
>"No need, there will always be dumb plebs to do it for me."
>"Personally I think defending your nation is a farce, blood is all that matters. What kind of sick fuck would put their country ahead of their family?"
>"Only faggots subscribe to such ideals"
>Sweden is steam rolled within hours
>Russia sustains no casualties, millions of Swedes perish from bombings
>Russia, as tradition rapes the locals of their newly conquered land
>Swedes are in a state of bliss as their fetishes of being anally ravaged is fulfilled
>The Russians realised this is what they want
>Putin deems the nation of Sweden as utterly fucked up
>Sweden is nuked
SWEDEN
YES
>>51926296
>not submitting to the Putin dick
>>51926283
no blonde haired frisian t.bh
>>51926279
At least they can use the oils for soaps and lamps.
>>51926308
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Sorry_Day
>>51926308
>>Sweden is steam rolled within hours
That's flattering considering our current defense will let us hold for about 10-15 minutes.
>>51922879
This
Immigrants not willing to give an oath of allegiance are not worthy of citizenship.
>>51926074
It's funny how americans think anyone is going to ask your opinion here when the russian horde comes over the border. Even the rattiest of rats is going to be fetched from his neet cave to fight by MPs even if the fourth season of yuru yuri is just starting and their pvc figurine of miku is waiting for pickup at the post office.
At any given moment
>>51926416
You are a bit overzealous in this matter, the finns I know in real life all ridicule their military training.
>>51926279
Land whaling.
I'll mount a harpoon to a golf cart and get them. No need for anything faster than a golf cart since they can't run. Then I'll circle around them and wrap the rope around their legs to trip them. I'll be a real life Luke Skywalker.
>>51926308
Misplaced by war, a million totally Swedish people of varying origins receive asylum in Australia.
>>51926416
Nah, they'll just run to Sweden again while the idiots back home surrender and let the nazis and allies save them.
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your country?
yes
>Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
yes
>>51926416
Finland is rightful Russian territory.
>>51926453
Doesn't mean they're not forced to use it if shit happens.
>>51926328
Oh much worse.
Kill yourself
>>51922228
Of course not.
Why would I die for my corrupted government's profits?
Nationalism is cancer. Why would you willingly let yourself be brainwashed and become a statepuppet? You don't even choose what nation you're born in.
>>51926618
>Nationalism is cancer. Why would you willingly let yourself be brainwashed and become a statepuppet?
Welcome to /int/, amigo.
There's absolutely nothing overzealous about what I posted and I don't understand how you could interpret it as such. The fact remains that if and when russians attack the borders will get shut down and every reservist gets a call telling them where to head to or assignment. If the higher military command demands that the ones who are otherwise released from military duties are no longer released then MPs will fetch them from their homes by force. That's how it goes and it really has nothing to do with the quality of the reservist training.
>would you die defending your country
I don't think I would be ready to go to war and die for our cück government who doesn't give a fuck about Finnish people and keeps sucking the dicks of EU overlords.
>Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
I don't wanna be call either even if I am qualified. Mainly because the kind of retards who use those terms.
>>51926604
well let's hope shit hits the fan and you'll be the first to sacrifice yourself for my pleasure.
I'd rather kill to defend my country t.b.h.
Dying seems like a really really inefficient way to defend your country.
>>51922228
I'd fight for my country and do my best not to get killed.
>>51922740
That's just shitposter, you ignore them.
>>51922821
But would you take Canadian welfare and benefits?
>>51926872
>implying I won't start killing fr*sians first
:^)
Only if we're being invaded. I do naval research, so I'll let the dumb rednecks and nignogs do all all the dirty work lel
>>51927021
What exactly is naval research, senpai?
>>51922228
Finnish government doesn't even attempt to defend our national interests and is just busy replacing the native population with foreigners, so I say who gives a damn at this point.
Someone who didn't do the military service but defends finnishness (like say Halla-Aho) is more honorable than someone who did and enables the robbery of this country.
>>51927146
Anything regarding the navy.
My uncle does electrical research and development for naval vessels.
Could be any number of things.
>>51927299
>Finnish government doesn't even attempt to defend our national interests and is just busy replacing the native population with foreigners, so I say who gives a damn at this point.
Are there people who really are this naive? They really believe this, in their world the Finnish governments sole purpose is to dismantle the country? Why would they want that? What would be the point?
>>51927146
Jerking off in an office and begging for credits every now and then
>>51926737
Russia? Seriously? We are being destroyed as we speak, with more damage done to our national interest than probably ever in the history of our people, yet you don't even seem to register it as a problem?
I couldn't give a damn about Russia now.
In case of an invasion maybe.
Nationalism is stupidity though.
Mexican btw
>>51927433
Do you not follow the news? Every expert touts how multiculturalism is already here, it's too late to turn back. We have to get used to it.
All our leaders do is be lapdogs to Germany.
Yes it is the plan, even if it's not malicious. You have to look at the end result, and it's our death.
>>51924848
Nice doubledubs. I'd like to believe that but I think that China are fucking themselves into a Mad Max 2-tier wasteland and once they have nothing left their going to start turning on their neighbors and us.
>>51927146
Well I specifically work on satellite communications, but it can almost mean anything, because you can propose ideas and receive funding, so sometimes the projects can be really fun but not really useful, so as long as you make a convincing argument you can get funding.
>>51927684
>>51927365
>>51927021
How's the salary?
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your COUNTRY?
No, my life is worth more than this country. If I were an US citizen, I might contemplate it, because the Bill of Rights is nearly unique enough on it's own to warrant serving the country.
>Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
First off, most people aren't literal slaves of government forced into conscription. Secondly, calling oneself a Patriot or Nationalist is hardly a feat of intelligence - lest one is American, of course, because it's the one and only bastion of liberty left on this planet, making it worth protecting.
>>51927641
Bring it on
>>51927483
The only realistic military threat finland will face for the forseeable is russia, whether you like it or not. Besides the thread is only about defending your country from a military invasion, not economical downturns or refugees. You can't shoot the other one and if you shoot the later you'll get in more trouble than what it's worth so what the fuck are you crying about.
>>51927794
Okay, you go first though. I'll be in the second wave, third at the latest.
>>51927525
Lääkkeet
>>51926296
>implying
Armament and war-time duties for 250k out of 900k reservists. Adding to this, one can simply refuse service when shit hits the fan - nobody is going to shoot you.
>>51927525
There has been immigrants for past 2 decades, it's not like first black person arrived here last month, like what the hell. And if 10 000 immigrants is all it takes to result in our extinction, maybe you should start spreading those genes of yours....
Seriously what the fuck are people thinking. And what is with burning down asylums, the number one priority people are worried is "how this will be bring instability, chaos and violence to here" AND THEN THEY START DOING THAT VIOLENCE THEMSELVES. What the fuck. Practice what you preach, otherwise you are a hypocrite and no better than immigrant thugs.
>>51927731
Deppends on what exactly you do and your education and previous work background, but he makes 120k a year last we talked about it 3 years ago.
>>51922228
>Would you die defending your country?
Are you an arab? You are supposed to kill for your country not die for it.
>Should pussies who didn't do military service be disqualified from calling themselves Patriots and Nationalists?
Yes.
>>51927455
Mostly this kek. A lot of people are just fucking lazy, have no idea what is going on or hit a roadblock, which results in alot of projects being scrapped or calling in outside consultants(well from other defense contractors) to help. In the end you get paid and people rarely get fired here even if they're complete shit
>>51926737
> If the higher military command demands that the ones who are otherwise released from military duties are no longer released then MPs will fetch them from their homes by force.
Are you dumb or merely uninformed? Here's something for you to ponder: before those released from military duties are sent to war, you'll need 900 thousand dead men lying in our forests. Secondly, nobody is going to force anyone to fight - it's not the winter war anymore. We don't shoot deserters.
>>51927907
But Israel, why would anybody want to call themselves a patriot or a nationalist? Over here anybody talking like that would sound like a retard.
>>51927805
>Besides the thread is only about defending your country from a military invasion, not economical downturns or refugees.
These things are not mutually exclusive and never are.
In America their oath of allegiance includes enemies foreign and domestic, because the undermining of national interest is the same no matter the source.
>>51927850
Sorry, I don't accept that as a response. You have no moral high ground on me.
>>51928009
>But Israel, why would anybody want to call themselves a patriot or a nationalist?
Some ideals are worth more than others. Some of them are worth armed service.
>Over here anybody talking like that would sound like a retard.
Only retards worship retarded regimes.
>>51927731
currently making 85k, but I only have a bachelors in CS, but you can earn a lot more if you continue studying, which they allow and even encourage since they are willing to pay for your tuition. It's a nice career path if you can get in.
>>51928103
>some of them are worth armed service
name one outside of being conquered by foreign assholes with hostile intentions towards you and your land. Outside of a direct, Imperial Japan during WW2-tier threat to Australia I don't see myself ever fighting. And even then they'd probably throw me behind a desk or something because I'm a hollow-chested nerd.
>>51927888
Lol. What is this nonsensical bitching and nonsense I'm getting from you?
Finland right now as it stands has the highest rates in immigration in Europe:
http://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/suomi-nousi-karkeen-euroopan-turvapaikkatilastossa-842-6236504
Finns give birth to around 150 new mongol babies per day, while the daily intake of shitskins is just under. And is going to be more once the weather gets more suitable. What do you think this kind of development, coupled with the birth rate differences between Europeans and Muslims that are widely known are going to do for our demographics, you god damn rocket surgeon?
Germany will have 20 million Muslims by 2020 because of the same thing.
>>51927973
I think you're the one who is either stupid or just misinformed. If the war situation demands it everyone will be conscripted and whether or not you were released during peace time will not affect your situation at all. Military forces will get depleted over time and as the demand for soldier circulation increases people who were otherwise released will be conscripted, because war is a shitty business. Also it's hilarious how the first thing that pops into your mind is that mps using force means that they'll shoot you for desertion. MPs using for means if you refuse to follow orders and report they'll come fetch you kicking and screaming. If the situation degenerates even more desertees will probably start being shot too. Who knows.But what is known is that pretending your opinion matters in a time when the world burns around you is just pure delusion.
>>51928103
>Only retards worship retarded regimes.
This is essentially what OP is doing.
>>51928159
Work with UAS in the Army. They keep trying to get people to reup. Everyone is getting out and going civilian with it. Army pay sucks and more BS to deal with. Litteraly had a staff sergeant get out and show up 3 months later to be our civilian field service representative. He is making 30k more a year now and does basicly the same thing he did while in the Army.
>>51928213
>name one
The Bill of Rights.
>Outside of a direct, Imperial Japan during WW2-tier threat to Australia I don't see myself ever fighting.
That's because your country isn't great enough.
>>51928243
Statistics don't work that way, and secondly, we aren't taking 10k immigrants annually for the rest of our lives. You'd be fool to think that.
Also, you might wanna learn to read, the article says we have the HIGHEST QOQ GROWTH, not highest intake.
>>51928308
> Military forces will get depleted over time and as the demand for soldier circulation increases people who were otherwise released will be conscripted, because war is a shitty business.
The centrally organized military resistance will be over in a week.
>Also it's hilarious how the first thing that pops into your mind is that mps using force means that they'll shoot you for desertion.
A history book will teach you what governments and their goons usually do to dissidents.
>>51928466
>Bill of Rights
Isn't that a burgerland thing?
>country isn't great enough
We have kangaroos. What's your animal?
>>51928666
>Isn't that a burgerland thing?
You didn't specifically ask for an Australian thing.
>We have kangaroos. What's your animal?
You also have a million animals that will kill you by touch. I'd rather take my chances with the Moose.
>>51928666
Reindeers. You wouldn't get christmas presents without those.
>>51928488
Right, we should go by feels and ideology like you. That way we get a much clearer picture of the future than with these unpleasant and wrong "factoids" that don't sit well with us.
>the article says we have the HIGHEST QOQ GROWTH, not highest intake.
Regardless of whether I glanced at the article right or wrong, the fact remains that we have about as many birth as there is the inflow of non-European immigrants. You do know - and answer me this - what it's going to do for the demographics in the long run?
>>51928009
I'm not talking about starting overseas wars to bring democracy/communism/islam/more clay or whatever. I wouldn't fight in one of those. But when you're country is in danger of being overrun by homicidal neighbours who are going to kill or enslave you and everyone you love, than it's better to take the risk of getting killed in battle than to wait for them to come to you. The fact that your western style army has an advantage in recking the savages with relative ease makes this a nobraner. Finland understands this because of its past encouners with communist agression.
>>51928791
Well first of all, birthrate between native population and immigrants is around 0.3 children/mother, in favour for immigrants. The immigrants hardly manage to keep up the population, and we have been below that line for who knows how long (can't really blame immigration for that).
>Right, we should go by feels and ideology like you.
>Regardless of whether I glanced at the article right or wrong
You just said we should look at facts, but you can't even look at facts correctly.
What I meant with statistics that the ever lasting quote of "Lies, Damned lies and Statistics" is highly relevant. If you would look at statistics from 30 years ago and tried to predict this day, you would get totally different numbers. Because no statistic is 100% reliable.
Also wanna know who our biggest immigration populations are by far still? Estonians and Russian (+ other former USSR).
Then we come to modern day politics.... if you really believe government which is already making policies to give law enforcement easier and faster access to deporting those who aren't allowed to stay, somehow has evil plan to get us all killed, I feel sad for you.
Also I am not sure if you are that Ameriboo, but you act on totally the opposite of what America was created for (something even Americans seem to forget). Liberalism, when it suits me is literally "Muh feels" the ideology. Either everyone is equal under the law or some are more equal.
Ps. economic stagnation is far more dangerous threat to us than immigration, as it cannot be easily controlled or predicted.
>>51929134
>finnish birth rates
Dropped to 1.71 per couple since 2015. I don't know about the Muslim birth rates, but the key difference is that theirs between 2007-2011 was 2.09 (replacement rate) - Muslim women most likely more and Russians and Estonians less.
Now again, this with the constant and unending refugee inflow, what will it do to us in the long run? (keep in mind that these trends are reflected by other European countries. We don't live in a bubble: look at Sweden and Germany and others.)
>If you would look at statistics from 30 years ago and tried to predict this day, you would get totally different numbers.
We would have never been able to fathom how bad it would get then, but the main trend from since then, now and into the future is that it's just going to get worse.
Disagree? Well, then show me even the slightest evidence of the population replacement slowing down in any way or reversing.
>if you really believe government which is already making policies to give law enforcement easier and faster access to deporting those who aren't allowed to stay,
The government isn't doing anything about the occupation of this country by Middle Easterners, what difference does it make what minor policies they are doing? The big picture, look at the big picture.
>somehow has evil plan to get us all killed, I feel sad for you.
It's worse, you see, it's not evil, it's just amateurish and slavish by our legislators. None of them seem to have any foresight or interest in democracy.
>but you act on totally the opposite of what America was created for
No, I'm for Finnish people to decide their own faith. Majority rule.
>Ps. economic stagnation is far more dangerous threat to us than immigration, as it cannot be easily controlled or predicted.
Completely the opposite. Economic calamities come and go, but ethnic replacement is permanent. We have never been more under threat as a nation than now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnvm5Jztvps
>>51922740
>army boys cost the govt millions to train to do useless things
>sivaris work for free, even produce some taxes for you
"Patriots"
>>51923594
Mietinki et mikä lanka tää on mut suvakin persut on perseestä lankahan se sieltä löyty xD tapa ittes mamupatja
>>51930778
Ne käyttää millon mitäkin aihetta suomalaisia vastaan.
Joskus Pete "neekeri" Parkkosta armeijassa yms. (kato, hän on isänmaallinen vaikka tukee mokutusta!)
Tai sitten ne puhuu miten saamelaiset ovat alkuperäiskansaa ja suomalaiset kuuluu Volgan mutkaan.
Sama periaate joka asiassa: mollata suomalaisia.
