Has any country fallen so fast and so low?
2 Decades ago we were the masters of out own destiny. Now we are the murder rape robbery and aids capital of the world.
I do not see light at the end of the tunnel. I will be emigrating in 2016. I feel ashamed to do this. Refugee has become a dirty word.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=845_1449673980
Once we were not shit.
not winning rugby games capital of the world tb.h
>>51889586
we lost by 2 fucking points to nz you utter fucking cunt. 2 points! we should have a 30 point handicap cause we in africa. so in our reality we won by 28 points.
>>51889689
zero tries
>>51889826
true we lost fair and square. Seems God is still punishing us for that apartheid thing. Thats the only reason i can see why we lost.
>>51889495
>Has any country fallen so fast and so low?
Libya, Argentina, Greece, Brazil etc. have it way worse economically.
>murder capital of the world
Not even close. We're not even in the top 10 anymore boet.
>I do not see light at the end of the tunnel.
Oh ye of little faith. DA + EFF alliance will get rid of the ANC at the next elections.
>I will be emigrating in 2016. I feel ashamed to do this.
Don't feel ashamed and don't call it emigrating. Call it exploring your horizons. It's normal to want to see what's on the other side. Besides money, there's not much desu. I've been in Finland for a number of years now and will be returning to ZA at the end of December. The exchange rate has been VERY good to me.
>>51889990
you had the best defence in the tournament. As much as I like de Villiers him and other players were too old to still be competing in that tournament.
>>51890281
Nah, that's just an excuse. Kiwis beat us fair and square.
>>51890402
it's not the saffer side has been tiered for a couple of years now
>>51890262
>Oh ye of little faith. DA + EFF alliance will get rid of the ANC at the next elections.
Polls show that the DA will win PTA JHB Mandelabay and Buffalo City metropoles in next years elections.
The DA has won the Oudshoorn municipal election 2 years ago. The ANC council just refused to accept it and refused to vacate their offices.
>>51889990
>apartheid thing
yea that turned out pretty shit
>>51890464
It is still a fact that the state back then was far better than it is now.
They can't even manage to use the equipment they took over correctly.
Just look at water and electricity.
Is it very hot in south africa?
>>51890463
The new generation has me hopeful for the future.
>>51890537
And now they got nothing, so i guess the apartheid wasn't a very good long term plan?
>>51890464
we should have called it #blacklivesmatter Since black south africans had the longest life expectancy of all africans. They also had the highest hdi of all Africans.
>>51890602
Who are you talking about?
I was talking about the mismanagement since the end of apartheid by the following government.
>>51890541
its 7:32pm here and outside its 32C
>>51890706
its the middle of summer there though
whats it like in winter
>>51890537
something like 20% of the population pay tax for everyone. My parents lived in Johannesburg in the 70s, my dad said it was the only country in Africa banks would loan money to because they were the only ones that didn't default. No idea about now, but it was a functioning country then.
>>51890537
The problem was that people with experience were replaced by inexperienced people. It's all growing pains. The water thing was something out of the government's hands. There's a huge drought on at the moment. The electricity thing is also sorting itself out. People are installing solar power on their homes. I'm invested in a company down there installing solar.
>>51890861
boers need to secede
t. secession pro
>>51890861
>>51890841
Good to hear that.
I was afraid it was going down the drain with all that talk about corruption.
>>51890841
The financial sector is still top notch.
>>51890861
did the majority of bantu people arrive in south africa in the 19th century to work in the mining industry or is that just a misconception? I think the area wasn't heavily populated when the dutch arrived but I could be wrong.
>>51889495
where you gonna come from nigger, lybia-itali or greece-turkey?
>>51890973
>boers need to secede
To where exactly? We have everything to lose by doing so. We love living in vibrant cities with clubs, bars, restaurants, gyms, coffee shops etc. We have no interest in moving to Oranje in the middle of the desert. It's too far from the beach.
Blanke afrikaners zijn welkom hier
>>51891134
Maybe he is still salty about what the british did.
We don't know how long ago his heritage bringers arrived in the states.
Assuming that this is not just a stupid name he has there.
>>51891041
That's a misconception. This map illustrates the rise of the Zulu Empire under Shaka (1816–1828) in present-day South Africa.
>>51891134
take all the fertile clay and a big city and kick the niggers out
>>51891198
none of my ancestors ever came to america actually
>>51891172
Nee dankie.
>>51891323
So....you are a south african that went there?
>>51891323
t. American Education
We already own all of that.
>>51891241
thanks
>>51891134
I have this argument all the time. Asking Afrikaners to be repatriated is like telling Australians to go back to the United Kingdom.
>>51891389
no, im irish
le epic multicultural nations like south africa dont work though. it needs to be divided along ethnic lines.
>>51891420
you own it, but you dont have your own country
baka
>>51890760
it is spring here now.
In winter it will go down to 10
>>51891458
>you dont have your own country
Autism speaks
>>51891479
sounds ok. id like it personally if it went down lower, but its not my country i guess.
>>51891566
>10% of the population
>look we have our own nation n shieet xDDDD
stfu retard
>>51891566
Or the deep seated irish struggle for their own country.
Thats why the poles took down the EU flag during ceremonies too.
>>51891683
>letmetellyouaboutyourcountry.jpg
>>51891825
>The 2011 census figures for these groups were Black African at 79.2%, White at 8.9%, Coloured at 8.9%, Indian or other Asian at 2.5%, and Other/Unspecified at 0.5%.[15]:21 The first census in South Africa in 1911 showed that whites made up 22% of the population; it declined to 16% in 1980,[16] and 8.9% in 2011.[15]:21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_South_Africa
enib xD
>>51891731
I don't understand why it's hard for some people to understand that we are proud to be South African.
>>51891825
White afrikaaners still rule the country economically. we pay 90% of taxes whilst being 9% of the population.
>>51892045
Some people might say that seems a bit wierd.
>>51892045
This fact never gets through to doreigners no matter how many times I explain it to them.
>>51892092
it is weird yes. Every cent i make goes down to paying my mortage. I drive a 1999 ford escourt 1.6 I work with a black guy that drives a 2014 bmw.We get the same pay. Our priorities arent the same.
ITT: Everything's fine as long as white people have money. Ignore the Somalia to the left and to the right, and back there, and over there. And there.
>>51892650
South Africa is nothing like Somalia. In fact we have less Somali refugees than Finland and the Somalis that are there are hard working because we don't give them money to sit on their hands unlike here.
>>51892946
>we can't be Somalia, our slum negroes aren't from Somalia
>>51893351
>idon'tknowwhat'shappeningtherebutiwillstillcomment.jpg
>>51892364
I was mroe talking about the fact that you finance the state everyone profits from.
Seems unfair.
>>51894034
It's the way things were set up during Apartheid. Not much has changed economically since then.
>>51894388
Only that now you are discriminated against, or isn't it as bad as documentaries about zhe fat of farmers made me believe?
>>51894531
you are discriminated against if you rely on a government job.
>>51894531
There are no one line answers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8AEwiDRYf8
http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/106487/top-20-best-paid-executives-in-south-africa/
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2015/12/09/Rainbow-Nation-a-fading-dream
http://theconversation.com/a-hard-hitting-analysis-of-south-africas-deepening-malaise-51643
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