When will humans start exploiting the Antarctic?
> brits always trying to steal our lands
>>51812966
Algerians aren't humans.
When it's worth it.
>kaiser wilhelm II land
>in the Australian claim
I refuse to believe this
>>51812966
>New Zealand in charge of claiming land.
Like 5% of their claim is land.
![2000px-Flag_of_the_British_Antarctic_Territory.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/H9nOEsm.png "2000px-Flag_of_the_British_Antarctic_Territory.svg[1].png")
>>51812999
REEEEEEEEEEEE
Leave our territory alone!
>>51812966
is anarctica from longitude 90W to 150W unclaimed? if so I claim it in the name of my god Haruhi Suzumiya
>>51813010
I say this all the time.
>>51812966
Bloody british
>>51813185
we have people living there me in fact I'm going there next week
>>51812966
>His country doesnt appear in the map
>his country has a claim
I can understand anglos but why fucking norway?
>>51813300
So do we
I'm a bit jelly about your adventure t.b.h
>Seven sovereign states had made eight territorial claims to land in Antarctica south of the 60° S parallel before 1961. These claims have been recognized only between the countries making claims in the area.
>It is said that the Antarctic Treaty defers or suspends these claims.
>>51813344
You have barely any people there, I love your country for making argentina butthurt 24/7 but still
>>51813324
They were big into exploring the Antarctic, sent many convoys in the early days, and have many little islands there belonging to the Norwegian crown.
Not to mention they're more "Antarctic" and adapted to the climate and lifestyle than any of those appearing in the map.
>>51813437
Our claim is from having the nearby Falklands and South Georgia islands territories, the number of people living there is irrelevant
>>51812966
not anytime soon
>>51813446
You dont know anything about people living there, people living in the patagonia are far more used to that weather, only chile, argentina and sus/nz should be there desu
>>51813511
I want you to split argentina claim with Chile and cause massive butthurt forever
>>51813569
dUK has claim over chilean antartic as well, would chile help argies over antarctic war or ally with uk again
>France keking Straya
>>51813569
As I said, they have territory nearby, which gives the the geographical right to claim it on the same basis that you do, and Patagonia isn't colder than Norway m8.
>>51813615
Apparently Marci is a br0 so I think we should try and be bros with him first
>>51813652
>dUK has claim over chilean antartic as well
You mean Chile has a claim over the British Antarctic :^)
>>51813699
what the uk and norway do is akin to china building fake islands, its just bs. if anyone ever puts a proper city there, that will be a legitimate claim.
antarctic property will be fought in the future, those research stations are just placeholders. itll be decided by realpolitik
>>51813975
Fuck off m8
1841: Falklands becomes British Crown Colony
1844: Chile recognised as independent country
1857: Argentina recognised as independent country
Nothing fake about that. Our claim is just as legitimate as theirs. Even more legitimate perhaps.
>>51813300
no me jodas que sos de la campaña de verano...
>>51814207
>1857: Argentina recognised as independent country
british """""""""education"""""""""" everyone
>>51814207
>recognized
>>51814341
>>51814350
Just going by what it says on wikipedia my Portuguese-speaking friends
>>51812966
it's already claimed, go play with sand
>>51814388
Our country was born on 1818, due Napoleon keking spain, no one can blame you for dont know about irrelevante south american history
>>51812966
>When will humans start exploiting the Antarctic?
never
also
>been Robert Scott
>try to reach the south pole
>bring ponnies to the antactic
>ponnies starve to death
>get keked (and bullied) by amundsen a guy who is from a country that the only thing that invented is a cheese slicer
>die frozen like a loser he was
>>51814535
Yes but I prefer to later year it was "recognised" because it makes my argument look better. Anyway I'll let you have 1818 because I found another way to win this
>>51814535
>>51813975
Here it is. Most legitimate claim.
British Antarctic Territory confirmed for most legitimate.
>>51814596
We already won, we used you to kill argentina moral and army so they wont invade us, best ally :^)
>>51814745
>we used you
You're not allowed to call us perfidious any more
![Orcadas[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/I7sUTsx.jpg "Orcadas[1].jpg")
>>51814717
HAHAHAHA
BRITISH BTFO
>>51814207
what youre saying is akin to saying usa has claim in south america due to puerto rico, just because its directly south. all those antartctic claims are bs unless people get there, settle and defned that land.
im not arguing about falklands, im arguing about antarctic. thats why its bs. falkland dont make any part of the antartctic yours.
>>51814888
NOT
OFFICIAL
>>51814934
I mentioned Falklands because all those claims were made on the basis of having territory near the Antarctic, not having settlements.
>>51814948
hahaha everyone who knows about antactic politics knows that the british claims over antarctic are weak as fuck lel
ps thanks bruce
>>51815090
Whatevs at the end of the day the claims are only as weak as the navy and air force >_>
>>51815090
The UK claim is recognized by France, Norway, Australia and New Zealand while the Argentinian claim has no international support
Those argies in Antartica or their ancestors will become subjects of her majesty, Argentina doesn't have a leg to stand on
>>51813324
Google Amudsen
>>51815638
Of course the countries that are far away from Antartica choose to support the other coutry that is far away from Antartica. They need to strengthen the idea that countries that aren't part of the region can still make claims, otherwise they'd lose their own claims. And Australia and New Zealand, they are literally brits of course they'd support UK. The numbers here are not very balanced, because most of the countries who support UK need to support weak claims to strenghten their own weak claims.
By the way Norway's claims are very legitimate, Antartica belongs to us.
chile stronk
chile superpower by 2069
>>51815793
We're not very far away
>>51815996
m8 you could fit like 2 USAs in that space, it is far away
>>51816133
I'm talking about the space between Falklands and Antarctica. In the top left
At the bottom is New Zealand
What a shit thread.
So what's keeping you from investing in some serious shit down there? a small town would be a decent start, don't tell me you want to colonize mars but can't put a town on the Antarctic?
>>51816216
You don't like this?
>>51816216
why is algeria so interested in these affairs? are you a spy?
>tfw south pole will never be rightful Norwegian clay
maybe the british should hold referendum and see what the people living down there think lel. I don't think they could be so cruel and imperialistic as to force their will on people who have a right to self determination, right?
>>51813324
We got there first. British revisionism has made everyone believe we didn't. Never trust an Anglo.
>>51816483
I am sick of referendums. Do you know how many referendums we're having lately? Enough is enough.
>>51812966
>mfw those countries actually think that the entirety of Antarctica doesn't belong solely to the USA
I see the United States doesn't have a claim, but don't we operate a base there?
>>51816492
That isn't the only relevant part. We built infrastructure and did a lot of whaling, we certainly have a presence there. It's not like we sent one person and used that to claim the continent, we did a lot over a long period of time.
>>51816636
I guess you could say... their claims are baseless
>>51816636
You don't need a claim to operate a base there
Japan, India and South Africa all have bases in Antarctica
>>51816650
South pole is not the continent
>>51816666
carlooooooos
>exploitation of Antarctica is banned until 2048
>>51816723
It was an exaggeration because I don't know how to spell it in English and I can't be bothered looking it up, and it was shorter to say than to say a part of the continent.
Is that a small Polish claim I see there
>>51816754
When it's time to renew it'll probably be rewritten as countries having no rights to claims there, and it will be praised as big progress. Meaning international mining companies will be allowed to do as they wish, and no countries will have the power to put limitations on pollution.
>Feels good man
All those resources just waiting to be exploited
Why no one want Marie Byrd Land?
>>51816666
Fuck off carlos lucifer
>>51816666
>those quads
>that pun
>that meme
o i am laffin
>>51815793
>Of course the countries that are far away from Antartica choose to support the other coutry that is far away from Antartica
Are you retarded?
If distance is the deciding factor, Argentina has the biggest claim.
>>51817205
I didn't say they don't.
But if distance is important, countries on the other side of the world has an interest in changing that, and downplaying the importance of distance. Because distance would be a big threat to their claims.
To downplay the importance of distance, they can choose to accept claims made by other countries far away. If their support helps getting a claim made by a different country far away accepted, they are tearing apart the distance requirement. They can just point to each other if faced with rejection based on distance, pointing out how other countries far away got their claims accepted, so distance doesn't really mean much.
>>51816597
This is more correct than you think.
The United States legally reserves the right to make any claim and ignore all current claims on Antarctica in doing so, which is why we're non-signatories to the Antarctic sovereignty treaties. Russia has a similar stance.
>>51817472
Try taking our land and there will be no more brunost, fish or cheeseslicers for you.
>Dat fucking french claim
Fucking frog cunts always have to ruin everything.
Australia unironically claims more land in Antarctica than we have on our own continent.
>>51813511
No, you don't understand
Argentina seriously has town with PERMANENT RESIDENTS in the Antarctic, you do not,
>>51817791
>has town
>no 'a'
Argentinean with proxy
>>51817421
in the end it doesnt matter. any coutnry coudl build cities on your claim and its settlers would have more validity for territorial claim than your expeditions and whaling
you think those absurd enormous claims of yours, and countries that are nowhere near, are somehow legit just because of some nearby islands?
its mere muscle flexing, idgaf style, nothing more. theres no basis on which a fucking island gives you right to claim 1/4 of a sea up to the end of the world.
the only reason these absurd claims hasnt been disputed is because of course, noone can dispute it. noone is near, has the logistics, the money, or political will. so the placeholders have remained. except of course for argentina and chile, which actually can be there, so they disputed.
so in the end, anyone that CAN be there, will be there. if norway can be tehre, those claims will remain
>>51812966
Not until 2048.
Antarctica is a special case when it comes to territory. The Antarctic Treaty System (ATS) has been enacted in 1961 and currently has 53 signatories, including the 12 countries that currently have claims on the territory. This treaty forbids anyone to claim, or have any military activity in Antarctica. In essence, every country owns the continent: it's a Condominium (I love this word). However, some countries are starting to show interest in extending their territory on the continent, namely Australia.
Now since 1998, the Madrid Protocol forbids anyone to exploit ressources or even to prospect for them. However, we know Antarctica might have some juicy things in it, like petrol, coal and valuable minerals (copper, gold, silver, platinum, uranium, phosphates, diamonds...). Some countries like Russia are clearly interested in that, and might be doing some illegal prospection in the area. The treaty is to be renegociated 50 years after the signature, which means the deadline is in 2048. It could very well be re-enacted for another 50 years, but with global warming and depletion of ressources on the other continents, it seems unlikely. With many countries that would start to actively exploit Antarctica, its status as a Condominium might even be in danger, as other activities than research would be authorized.
>>51816832
Why does Norway even have a claim? They're probably the farthest country from the south pole.
