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Green countries: first world
Yellow/brown countries: second world
Red countries: third world

Do you agree?

http://www.legatum.com/philanthropy/investing-in-policies-ideas/the-prosperity-index/
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Inb4 Portugal
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>>51710743
Poland should be yellow too t b h if we are. Not arguing about anything else.
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>>51711093

You are worse than Poland accordingly to all serious prosperity indexes, including OECD
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>>51711277
Last time I checked our HDI and wages were better than in Poland. Also your country looks like a typical post-commie shithole with poverty at every corner so I wouldn't side it up with countries like Norway and Germany. You can see from this picture where the line goes between first and second world.
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>>51711634
how is estonia not a post-commie shithole
Did you suck Russia's dick for 50 years
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>>51711634

Uh oh, butthurt. Are you going to complain about objective statistics now? So what that your nominal salaries are a bit higher than ours if you can buy less for it because of higher prices?

One can also check out mapcrunch.com software and get random google street view to judge which country is a povety ridden shithole full of wooden houses and shitty infrastructure indeed: Poland or Estonia
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>>51711699
Can you even read you retard? When did I even say it wasn't?
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>>51710743
>not dividing big countries (anyhting 30+ mil people) into subregions

Legatum a shit
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>>51711728
You're missing my point, Poland isn't 1st world and if you're ever travelled west from your country you'd know it. Where did I show any butthurt, I just answered your question in the OP. If you're so sensitive you shouldn't have asked in the first place. I've been to Poland and it looks JUST AS SHITTY as Estonia.
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>>51711761

When we started our adventure with capitalism, we were objectively one of the poorest countries of soviet block, while you were the richest country of soviet block.

Now situation is kind of reversed: baltic countries are shitholes, while Poland is improving much faster

Your hatred for Russia is kinda irrational imho
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>>51711954
>it looks JUST AS SHITTY as Estonia.

Nope, baltic countries look incomparably shittier.
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>>51711955
>Your hatred for Russia is kinda irrational imho

I can't believe this is coming from a Polish person.
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>>51712025
How?
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>>51712078
>I can't believe this is coming from a Polish person.

We have rational reasons to hate Russia because this entity made us even poorer to our traditional menials: Ukrainians, as proved above
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>>51710743
Brown countries should be third world and we should be brown tbqh
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Switch Poland and Italy's colour and colour czech yellow that's exactly how I see it.
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Not so fast poland
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>second world

you do realize that means commies, and not between first and third, right?
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>>51712214
This concept should've died with the end of the cold war imo
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>>51711955
I don't care about any of this shit you're so desperately trying to prove here. My point is: Poland, in the current year of 2000 and fucking fifteen cannot be paired up with 1st world countries like Canada, Norway, Australia etc in any regard. In every single statistic your country is much closer to the yellow countries in OPs picture. Do you undestand what I'm telling you or are you continiuing to pull out some shit from the internet and from your arse to prove me how horrible all the Baltics are?
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>Greece ranks lower than Thailand

Feelsbad actually
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>>51712025
t. Polac who has never been to Baltics and argues like a woman.
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here's the real map
http://www.prosperity.com/
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>>51712098

Everybody who traveled around Europe a bit can see difference. Did you see such scenes even in 10k Polish town? It is your capital dude and it looks like third world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYMG5UdEiw
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>>51710743
Somehow, I'm not convinced Italy is second world. Mezzogiorno maybe?
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>>51712550
>t. Polac who has never been to Baltics and argues like a woman.

I don't have to travel to your depopulating shithole to have an idea that it is shit. If i want to have any idea, i can always use random google street views. You are only a bit better than Latvia and Latvia is a terrible shithole that looks in many places like Russian glubinka
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>>51712564
We don't have that type of scryscrappers in Lithuania
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>>51712701

You see? You don't even recognize Vilnius. Are you Lithuanian at all?
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>>51712724
I don't live in Vilnius
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>>51712640
t. Polac who has no money to travel abroad and still argues about how shit Estonia is when nobody even said otherwise and that wasn't even the point
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>>51710743
>secondworldtugal
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>>51712816

I traveled to most of Westerneuropean countries, but somehow i was never in mood to travel to baltic holes. Why should i do it? You are not even interesting from historical point of view. If you claim that i lost much, you must be a liar.
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>>51712816
> living in Estonia
> calling somebody "poor"

You must be Russian, ain't you? Russians have big complexes about poverty
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>>51712888
Yeah, cool, can't argue with that, you probably didn't lose much. Now tell me though, when you allegedly went to these Westerneuropean coutnries, what differences did you notice compared to Poland? When you're trying to answer this question with your smart Polish brains maybe you finally figure out what I was trying to tell you all along.
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>>51712996
Lol are you trying to insult me? Just accept that Poland is second world and we're cool bro. You and me we're probably both poor as shit, living in second world Eastern Europe shithole as we both do don't even have to be Russian to be poor.
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>>51713264

If i have to be honest, number of poor-looking people and cheap used cars in Western countries is more or less the same as in Poland. Especially if we talk about areas far away from tourist centers. Also housing in the West is much worse than in Poland. F.e. UK has terrible housing, nordic countries have weird fetish of wooden houses. Here in Poland only animals and bums live in wooden "houses", everyone has at least 2-condignational bricked house. Infrastructure is the West is older and more used than ours. Berlin made even worse impression on me than Warsaw, and Warsaw is probably the ugliest Polish city
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>>51712138
That "entity" does not exist. Its people got fucked by its implosion even harder than you.
Gommies tried to make entire world socialist, that's why Poland got pulled in and choked by shit like the planned economy. It's a resonable fear to not want that shit.
Russia is now fully capitalist democracy, yeah, with an important poster boy. I will let you keep you opinion on whether Putin wields dictator powers or not.
What kind of evil influence that needs to be physically fought off are poles expecting from Russia when it inevitably comes back to torture them again?
Your new government just said they want to enlarge the military and house american nukes. What for? In what way is this rational fear?
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>Poland
>first world

ayy lmao
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>>51713514
>What kind of evil influence that needs to be physically fought off are poles expecting from Russia when it inevitably comes back to torture them again?

I don't know exactly. But disintegration of Russia is surely a better option than feeding it with trillions petrodollars that they spend on army, espionage and bribing politicians in Europe, isn't it?
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>>51713504
So you went to Western Europe and everything was as shit or even shittier than in Poland? Nigga are you for real?
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>>51713875

I didn't say that Western countries are "shittier" than Poland. Of course, their nominal income is much higher. But you terribly wanted me to comment on this aspect, so i did it. Poverty visible with naked eye (poor-looking people, cheap clothes without brand, the homeless, bums) in the Western Europe is comparable to Polish one. That's what i noticed. Before i ever decided to live in the West, i thought that it is a paradise, but it is not. Maybe you should try to travel throughout Europe a bit more, without visiting only tourist traps. Housing is much worse usually just like infrastructure. But life is easier thanks to higher income.
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Wtf happens with Italy?
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>>51713856
A failed state is always the worse option.
Especially a failed state with thousands of nuclear warheads.
Russia inherited a whole lot of skeletons in the closet from the USSR. It's a fucking miracle they pulled through last 20 years without killing us all.
I wish them to be a prosperous nation that keeps to iself, just like I wish for any other.
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>>51714380
>Especially a failed state with thousands of nuclear warheads.

Why? Poland never felt as safe as in 90s and Russia was a perfect example of a failed state with nukes back then
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>>51710743
>Poo in the loo
>Not third world

Wrong
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>>51714436
Actually the brown ones should go to 3rd world category
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>>51714426
>Poland never felt as safe as in 90s
Well then Poland was blissfuly ignorant about the pants shitting terror US and NATO felt when the country started cracking at the seams and nobody knew for sure who was going to take power.
The "misplaced nukes" trope in popular fiction originated from the 90's Russia situation. It was a very real fear that empowerished Russians will start selling nukes to everyone for pocket change and an enormous effort was made to prevent it.
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>>51710743
When will the fucktards who make those maps learn to set the quartiles by amount of population instead of the number of countries?

Also, fuck GDP. As bad as IDH is, it's still a better measure of prosperity.
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What's up with Italy?
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>>51714795
Russia is a parasite, not a mass killer. They want a host that feeds them. Hosts are divided into two categories : 1) other nations, 2) natural resources. 90s was a very specific time because Russia didn't have any honest to feed itself on. Oil price was like 20$ per barrel and soviet union was dismanteled, so they lost possibility of sucking on other countries. That's why they were so fucked up. But in such hard times, Russia is not dangerous at all. You shouldn't really worry about "people from street" taking over power in Russia because it is a country where political power is managed just like in Italian mafia.
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ftfy op
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>That sneaky realistic Portugal edit
Triggered
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>>51710743
>Land of the free
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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY
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>>51714073
>Housing is much worse usually just like infrastructure

kek, man Poland is still 40 years behind West with infrastructure

and yeah, great polish commieblocks and old houses with 50 years old facade are awesome too
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>>51715087
Not true. Infrastructure is usually better here than in most places in the West that i been and i am not even trolling now.

Commieblocks and old houses are present in the West as well. Sweden is a good example of such a Western commieblock-oriented country. They also have wooden houses which is completely unacceptable in Poland.
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ESPAÑA!!! MORO, DEBUELBENOS NUESTRO HORO!
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>MFW I actually believed the edit in the OP until it was pointed out it was a fake

The Portugal bullying is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it
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>>51715222
Why contain it? s'cool
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>>51710743
>http://www.legatum.com/philanthropy/investing-in-policies-ideas/the-prosperity-index/
>Portugal better than Italy
please tell me the whole world has started memeing up Portugal because we meme them down for bantz
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>>51715376
80% of the points used to rank the countries is either opinions, polls or social justice stuff... who cares
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>>51714949
>LOWTUGAL
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>>51711277
>poland higher that worst korea kek
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>>51715736

You ever been to South Korea and saw their urban slums and prices? Samsung and strong economy is one thing, but standard of life is completely different stuff
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>>51711728
>Go to map crunch and find poland
>nothing but farms everywhere
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>>51715920
Switch on option "urban", otherwise you will see mainly fields, roads and woods
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>>51712767
>live in the fuckin little Luthuania
>Have never been in capital
Explain this shit
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>>51713514
>Russia is democracy
Holy crap do you actually belive in this?
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>>51715983
It is kinda funny indeed, considering that capitals of baltic states are inhabited like by half populations of these countries
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>>51710743
Wtf do you even know what first/second wold might refer, even if they are not used ? This is about cold war you retard.
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>>51714426
Poor little Boland, why do you not feel safe? Do we really scary you?
Come on, you're in NATO now, there's literally no reasons to be scared by Russia
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>>51716034
You have a system that pretends anyone can start a party and try to get into the parliament by promising people shit they will never get, but there is an underlying system that mainly works for itself and makes sure proper people get elected through any means necessary.

Welcome to western democracy.
If you expected something else, we are really sorry.
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>>51716128
NATO is dead and completely disfunctional.
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Poland and Chezch should be yellow.
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>>51716312
>we are
CIA?
> pretends anyone can start a party and try to get into the parliament by promising people shit they will never get
But it's true in some cunts like Greece, there some promise-man always promise people to not cut socail aid and all shit socialistic shit. It's also works in France, there tons of black always vote for the most retarded socialist like Holand. And it's same in Russia: pensioners, bydlo and TV-zombie always votes for Putin.
So, the clue of democrasy is populism. And the reason for it is that all this scam like niggers have voting right. I think democrasy should be upgraded. We shouldn't allow scam to vote, only true sitizens should have this right.
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>>51716617
Oh yeah, that's why they supported Turkey.
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>poland first world
Wikipedia says otherwise
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>same color with brazil, columbia and mexico
that's fucking disgusting
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>>51717218
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>>51717302
still not beheaded or skinned people in the street.
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>>51717218
nobody cares about your shitty country filled with ugly brown people.
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>>51717302
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>>51711955
BRAVO POLAND
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>>51717697
>this mad
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>>51717610
>nobody cares about your shitty country filled with ugly brown people.
The pot calling the kettle black. This one wasn't edited unlike the Mexican.
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>>51717610
nobody is taking to you, go eat shit somewhere else fat piece of scrotum
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>>51712214
>>51712298
And another one with his outdated terminology.

Yes, at the time of Cold War 1st world meant capitalists(I doubt though that terminology like this was used in the Eastern Bloc and Soviet related countries), 2nd world communists, 3rd unaffiliated.

Now 1st world means the most developed nations on the planet, 2nd world less developed and 3rd poor shitholes.
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>>51710743
>Turkey, Georgia, and Armenia poorer than Mexico, Indonesia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, and Thailand
>Italy poorer than Spain

Fuck?
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>>51712701
that's the CBD of Vilnius you fucking idiot

litwini żrą gówno
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WTF!!! Italy what happened?
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>>51714073
>>51713504
I went to Western Europe too, and yeah their infrastructure looks worse but it's because it's older and we have fucking brand new highways in Poland.

In Germany you can clearly see the wealth difference, German towns and villages look wonderful, when in Poland... Definitely not so good.

But this
>>51712564
Oh god, Eastern Poland looks better than this. Of course you have some shitty houses in ruins in Poland too, but it's not like whole neighbourhood looks like this. Baltipoors.
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