How come the Western World is more succesful than anybody else?
why are you including yourself?
>>51667910
>bolan
>Portugal, Spain, Croatia, Slovenia, Czech Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia
>western
Read 'Guns, Germs and Steel'
:^)
>Pooland
>Successful
Pick one
successful? yes, in being faggot socialist degenerates
>>51667910
Because Evolution works
>>51667963
>>51667956
>>51668083
>>51667973
SUPERIOR
>No Greece
>Literally the creator of the western world
>>51668436
WESTERN
>>51668509
NATION
>>51667956
>>51667963
>>51667973
>>51668083
don't mind OP he is delusional and retarded, most likely some West worshipping leftist
we are fine with being Easterners
>>51668716
literally fucking no one is fine with being easterners except for actual leftist who's parents are Russia loving ex commies
>>51668716
ayy
>>51670505
I prefer Yezhov's precedessor
> Not noticing Northern Asia (China, Korea, Japan)
Based poland
because west is best
>Poland
>The western world
>>51670606
correct version of OP's map should look like this
I have been wondering about this same thing too.
>>51670691
>Japan, NK, Taiwan
>Western
????????????
Dude, Latin America is also western.
>>51670759
Fucking facist pig Open borders
>>51670691
Take Finland off. Take Portugal off, it was once western but not anymore.
Also add Malta.
It's to do with things such as the amount of fertile land, distance to the ocean for trade, the fact settlements were set up relatively close to each other, temperate climate ect
It all added up. Being European is literally winning the lottery
>>51670788
light blue means they have some aspects of a Western country but are not classified as such
>>51670691
>>51670850
>it was just luck argument
fuck off. we worked for our success.
The Native Americans and Africans had a much better climate etc. but it didn't about to shit.
>>51670889
Good.
Now take Finland off.
>>51670788
Point clearly was some East asians can do good as or even more Succesful than some quite nice done Europeans.
>>51667910
Why isn't latin America included again?
Need I remind you that the USA is as much a shithole as Argentina?
>>51670966
kek
Pakistan trying to show it power
when I think of western, I think of Anglo and nordic countries, france, benelux, germany, austria, switzerland and liechtenstein
Here, take Finland, make them light blue. Japan and SK also light blue.
Poland is western, don't pretend they aren't. Slavs are western, at the very least make them light blue.
>>51671066
Euros don't consider Latin America western.
But to be fair, Euros don't even consider poland and czech republic western. They have their own, bizarre settings.
Americans do consider us western though. Wikipedia definition also includes Latin America, since wikipedia is not based on euro's opinions.
>>51671202
If you're not western what are you?
I mean, the western classification doesn't depend on your nation being wealthy, it depends on the culture, and latino culture is based mostly off of Spanish culture, right?
>>51671179
>Poland is western, don't pretend they aren't. Slavs are western, at the very least make them light blue.
No. It's true some Slavs like Czechs are heavily westernised in some aspects but we are not Western. We are sons of the East.
Military power + culture + wars.
>>51671250
When I think "east" I am thinking of the far east (China, Mongolia, Siberia) I wouldn't call slav culture "Eastern" Maybe just Slavic if you refuse to take western.
>>51671202
Most of us consider first world as western. That's why Poland and the czech republic are eastern in my opinion while americans think they're western.
>>51671249
We are 100% western, we are based on portuguese culture. We see ourselves as similar to other western cultures, and, in fact we are. Added to our portuguese culture, there are massive italians and germans descendants.
>>51671319
Speaking of, what is the major differences between "western" and Slavic cultures? I mean, you guys just seem like poor westerners that squat to me.
>>51671249
I agree with you, and so do the specialists in this area. But euros like their clubs to be as restrict as possible. Just like in white discussions, when they don't consider the Irish and the Italians white.
>>51671333
You're not tho
>>51671343
western but self-hating, depressed alcoholics
Because America and Britain were at the center of the Industrial Revolution.
>>51671250
we are fucking not we always aspired to be western but always failed that's why we are considered eastern europeans not your commie PRL era ''sons of the east'' you delusional leftist nigger fucker
>>51670889
>pORIENTugal
>>51671374
I live in the state of Santa Catarina, in the city of Itajaí, my ancestors came from Açores (Portugal) and Saxony (Germany).
>>51667963
That cake looks good
>>51671424
>muh heritage
Don't go down that road, old worlders and Aussies don't understand.
>>51671330
It does make more sense now. But why have those two definitions that overlap?
Anyhow, I guess you could say there are degrees of westernization.
>>51671386
America only got to where it is by joining wars late.
>>51671584
>War goes on for years
>Americans join and the war is over quickly
Because the war would have ended when it did if we hadn't joined the war right? It's not like the war ended because we joined, it just ended because that was the predestined time for the war to end.
Come on man, we had no place in that war until Japan bombed us, we were helping our allies by giving them sick deals on munitions, the only reason you took part in the war is because your overlords in Britain told you to.
>>51671498
We understand, we just don't care. My great grandfather was German, doesn't mean shit to who I am though.
>>51670846
>>51670966
Please tell me why do you think Finland isn't part of the western world.
Preferably with some other answer than "mongols".
>>51667910
Ancient greek philosophers desu.
feels eastern man
>>51667910
Race and culture
>>51667910
fixed
>>51672076
>ARGENTINA
>>51670889
Stop that
>>51671894
being really that unconscious about nowdays events.
Its actually makes feel a lot better when thinking Finland as part of Eastern Europe, All west really got it all keks .
We dont neither have to follow east, but we can help them with a better road.
FUCK EU fuck merkel
>>51672076
>magyar cigany
no
>>51672156
I didn't even notice, that's great man.
>>51672238
Cú-ck sencored as keks fuck you mods
>>51672238
I do agree with you but the country does the exact opposite, hence I think Finland isn't exactly Eastern Europe right now.
>>51670846
wtf? finland is first world country and western.
>>51672700
>wtf? finland is first world country and western.
>>51672246
>I didn't even notice
Of course you didn't ;_;
>>51672700
We sure not Western, we are North-East all the way.
>>51672466
If we after these all years tables would turn, and we would suddenly become "west" its not too hard to flip table back to normal.
Current Situation sure aint such normal for our peoples and most of them have already seen it.
85% highly dislikes currents imigrant situation and all it needs to explow is few sparkles.
Sort of related: do you guys consider Latin America as a part of the west? I've traveled/lived in a lot of Central American countries in the past and they range from very rural (Honduras) to wealthy and developed (Costa Rica). It's hard to really pinpoint the region as traditionally western, but I don't know how to categorize it really.
What's your opinion?
>>51667973
Portugal and Spain are Western
>>51671259
How to tell someone is retarded
Japan is not western enough.
But also Japan is not Eastern enough.
>>51673863
I mean, it's like "Iberia does tropics" you know? They're brown people, they are poor people, they are not in a traditional western climate, but they follow most of the western traditions and such.
>>51668292
>you're having 0.7 babies per white couple
yeah ok la
>>51673989
Japan industrialized with the meiji restoration.
You followed western practices, following the lead of industrialization and thus became a regional power.
>>51667910
You have not colored Russia blue. What did you mean by that?
>>51669356
can't you see this culture is actually dying in this very moment? what's wrong in not wanting being dead?
>>51671066
>the USA is as much a shithole as Argentina
t. illegal shitskin
>>51667973
Portugal and spain are western af
>>51670920
Native Americans had no easy source of iron and had a distinct lack of large domestic animals(horse=kinda ducking important) and African climate is practically impossible to cultivate on a large scale, not to mention the lack of nutritious staple foods. Fuck off with that white man's burden shit, it all came down to luck
>>51673989
stfu, Japan got out of middle age because it westernized itself
Hence it's western country
>>51678062
damare(*^◯^*)
>>51678142
DAMARE
>>51678062
japan is an independent cultural sphere
They had us to protect them from muslim menace for thousands of years.
Before muslims were a thing, Constantinople was the most civilized place on Earth and also south eastern Europe was the military powerhouse of the world, conquering entire known world, while western Europe were a bunch of butt naked tribes, running around like African spear chuckers.
The west benefited from eastern protection and culture (Roman elite spoke Greek among each other, and Roman culture is a blatant copy of Greek culture).
They were just lucky, that's pretty much all.
>>51680024
except you use chinese characters, eat korean and chinese food, wear western clothing and are made to take english classes in school.
saying you live independent of the entire world is fucking retarded
>>51680913
You failed to see history channel ausbro
Everybody knows that the Japanese aliens came from mars and invaded Asia
It won't be for long. East Asia has achieved in mere decades what took the West centuries. And so not only is the East rising rapidly, but the West is way past its peak and is projected to decline.
>>51681124
Extraterrestrial Japanese already fucked up mars
It is like they were repeating a year in school
>>51681034
oh man i missed that
>>51680913
that's pretty much irrelevant because it's the core values that tell a cultural sphere from others.
in your standard, even the term the West would be meaningless since it has incorporated lots of culture/technology originated in other regions.
japan's core is Shinto, which makes japan japan.
>>51680024
>Mongolia
>Not glorious Tengrist
>>51680024
>turkey, blue
>bosnia, green
shitmap
>>51681532
>japan's core is Shinto, which makes japan japan.
shinto's a bunch of pseudo-religious beliefs. that's like saying being christian makes you western
>>51680024
>Japan
>Not Sinosphere
>Turkey
>Orthodox sphere
>Bosnia with lot of Serbs
>Islamic sphere
This is shitty map.
You just take the most successfull western countries and call them "west". Ukraine, Belarus, Mexico, Brazil, Chile or Romania are part of western civilization too and here this "theory" fails. Paint gulf monarchies green and "Why is muslim civilization so successfull?". Paint, Japan, Korea, Singapoor and China "why is the east so successfull?"
>>51670920
Native americans had essentially no animals to domesticate, only the llama which really can't pull carts and heavy loads. Having cows, sheep, goats and all the other animals are what gave Eurasia a massive advantage.
Sub saharan africans in the deep jungle couldn't really do shit, animals died of disease, the soil in the jungle is always shit tier and there were few navigable rivers
>>51681859
This. Also that OP's inclusion of Poland into "successful" group - KEK
Jews
>>51670846
Yeah. Finland is not even white so take it off.
test
why is Australia classified as a western country when we're the eastest country on the planet according to this map
>>51670920
>fuck off. we worked for our success.
>Work and you will be rich in no time!
>Oh and don't forget to vote for Donald Trump!
Delusions upon delusions, why don't you try working towards your sucess in siberia? Let's see how well that goes.
>>51683123
- white
- rich
- liberal, tolerant & multicultural
>>51683123
Because it refers to Western European Civilization and Culture and not Western Geographic longitude.
"Western" has no geographic relevance outside of Europe, which was where the classification arose.
>>51683161
>white
we're currently being invaded by Africans and arabs
>- rich
I suppose, but the AUD is junk status at the moment and continuing to fall
>>51668436
You're welcome...
>>51667910
Successful in what?
Cuucking themselves?
>>51680869
You really are overstating it, although you're right that The Eastern Empire was the financial power house of Rome and the most civilized part of Europe for centuries.
Post Rome, nobody in Western Europe were "Savages" that's ludicrous. The only ones still living in Tribal conditions were Russians, Nordics and those outside of the empire. Western Europe was in a state of economic stagnation while the Byzantines were thriving, but they had been civilized under Roman rule and were now beginning to form their own nations.
Attributing All Of Western Europes innovations to luck is total hyperbole. Yes the west was lucky to escape Ottoman rule, but the Reconquista and Poitiers were still a thing. The "Luck" was The West defending itself against islam successfully.
>>51682919
Pretty sure Spain is still Western.
>>51683401
>The West defending itself against islam successfully
You're welcome
>>51683489
It's not all down to Vienna (and even then it was the HRE as well).
The French stopped Al Andalus expanding centuries earlier at Poitiers, when Islam was at its greatest period of expansion.
>>51682033
holy shit that webm
It's because westerners measure success by western standards.
>>51667910
without Imperialism, the western world would have been a retarded feudal society...
>>51667910
>greece isn't blue
u are what m8
