I beleive If we Japanese were white, it would have never happened.
this is the more important point than dropping bombs were right or wrong.
>>51629978
Fuck off. As what donald trump who represents Americans said, it was a mistake that Nips back then shouldn haven't been against Americans back then with impertinent attitude. they deserved the nukes. Americans have been master race.
>>51629978
Probably, many Americans were dipshit back then.
>>51629978
...but Japanese are actually white
>>51629978
if you were white you wouldn't have joined the war, as japan had pan-asian imperial ambitions
take this speculation of an ancient event and fuck off
Nuclear weapons were in no way a change from the past policy of bombing cities flat. Also, it was pretty cheeky to rebuild those cities; I don't remember anyone saying you were allowed to do that.
>>51629978
So all the bullshit your forefathers were doing in war, that had nothing to do with it? You guys were psychopaths.
>>51630360
oh, then inoccent women and children had to pay for it? which one is psychopath?
>>51630467
>inoccent women and children had to pay for it
like nanking and people in south east asia?
>>51629978
It absolutely would have happend. Most of us dreams about nuking Russia.
>>51630467
>inoccent women and children had to pay for it?
>>51630486
i forgot about that
also i mean germany got slaughtered so there's that. if nukes were invented in time they would have been used there
>>51629978
Nice proxy
>>51630512
We're Americans, destiny is far more important to us than race, and our destiny is global hegmon.
>>51630475
where were Asians at that time there except Thailand? fuck you white devils
>>51630259
shitty japantoday loser detected
kill yourself, smith
Lurking because Japanons have hilarious and poetic sounding English
>>51630660
now you're an obvious proxy so i won't bother
>>51630695
dammit. really annoying bitch you didn't know Japan was surrounded by western colonies.
>>51629978
>I beleive If we Japanese were white, it would have never happened.
But you are.
>>51630738
>surrounded
that only happened when you went full retard and attacked the greatest nation on earth
>>51630689
>'Japanese'
>>51630802
hahahaha then it's like enhancing what the great we did. really sorry for independence of south Asian countries.
>>51630802
When you say greatest country, do you mean the USA?
>>51630920
yes
>>51630863
i dont understand what you are saying.
>>51630920
>canada
Honestly not sure if he means us or China.
>>51630956
...thanks, dude. I'm oddly touched.
>>51630467
Your military painted a very bad picture of all Japs. Who crashes their planes into boats instead of using skill to fight them? Fucking lunatics, that's who.
>>51630738
>Korea
>China
>Mongolia
>Taiwan (Japanese colony)
>North Pacific (Japanese colony)
Takeshi pls
>>51631028
>muh gook honor
>commits sudoku/kamikaze
literally the least honorable way to die
>>51631051
>Taiwan
>North Pacific
>Korea
hmm? do you want to blame sino/Russo-Japanese war or something before the end of WW1 ?
but today Japanese are considered white
>>51631254
>do you want to blame sino/Russo-Japanese war or something before the end of WW1 ?
The fuck does that mean lad
>Japanese """English"""
>>51631028
>comfort women
>slavery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military
>>51631283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FYuYkPgDkk
What did he mean then?
>>51631325
>literally warcrimesdenial.jpg >>51630497
>>51629978
The program was initially intended for the Nazis but they surrendered before rhe program was ready. Remember, we had to create 3 and enrichment was a bitch.
>>51631051
Okinawa was also originally a colony.>>51631051
>>51631388
there is no fact prostitutes were treated as slaves, except for the case in Indonesia.
What the fuck is your skin color? You're freaking white you blind fuck
>>51631451
>there is no fact prostitutes were treated as slaves, except
>except
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>51629978
Are you this Korean guy?
This Korean guy likes to say "we japanese".
>>51631462
We used to call them yellow but their skin is pretty light until they are exposed to sun.
>>51631431
>Ryukyu
Pretty sure that was part of Naichi, and they were at least Japonic.
>>51631451
>they were raped and you never paid them
>implying they were free to leave at anytime
what do you consider slavery?
>>51631530
I remember learning about their culture and due to trade they actually had more in common with China (culturally).
>>51631548
>never paid
what? then let me know your idea of comfort women.
>>51631609
>Comfort women were women and girls who were forced into sexual slavery by the Imperial Japanese Army in occupied territories before and during World War II and by the South Korean military during the Vietnam War.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]
>sexual slavery
>>51629978
Yeah it was pretty shitty.
>Japs bomb a military target and avoid shooting civilians at Pearl Harbor (according to actual accounts by Americans who were there) and America commits war crimes by bombing Japanese women and children
The only justification Americans can really fall back on is "No one could stop us, might makes right."
And that's fine but you goobers should really just be honest about it.
>>51631566
>they actually had more in common with China (culturally)
That was way before the 20th century. Ieyasu subjugated the islands in the early 1600s.
I'm not exactly sure about the culture, but that should pretty much guarantee Ryukyu being closer to Japan than China after that.
>>51631658
heh, they sold their pussy for free? oh nice lol.
>>51631705
Or how about if the Japanese didn't bomb military targets, we wouldn't have had to draft people to fight in a war. And then those draftees who were forced from being civilians to soldiers died. So yeah, Japan killed our civilians
>>51631705
>Thailand
We should have nuked you too desu, fucking axis loving traitor
![Tokyo_1945-3-10-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gNIrYAJ.jpg "Tokyo_1945-3-10-1[1].jpg")
>>51631705
We were already bombing civilians before we nuked them. It's how WW2 was fought.
>>51631325
You're comparing willful prostitution to prisoners you forced into permanent rape dens until they were used up and killed? There is a profound difference between those two things.
>>51631705
The usual argument is that two bombs prevented another several months of brutal fighting on the Japanese mainland.
>>51631767
Shouldn't have cut their oil broseph.
Asia would've been a well-oiled machine by now.
Enjoy Communist China.
>>51630467
>EVU AMERICAN DEVU KIRR CHIRDREN!!
>>51631795
The traitors were the ones who sided against Japan.
>>51631796
I wasn't just talking about nukes.
>>51631817
But we both know it was just an excuse to test out a new toy on le slant eyes.
>>51631798
hey you. first of all, most of the comfort women back then consisted of JAPANESE WOMEN. and they could get paid outstanding salary more 10-15 times than average one back then..
I was raised in the USA in the 70's and we were taught in school that the USA used the Abomb because:
(1)Cleaning islands occupied by Japanese in the South Pacific was a bitch because the Japanese solders had been told that American soldiers would literally eat them, so they would fight to the bitter death and this lead Allied commanders to believe that a ground offensive in mainland Japan would be extremely bloody, and
(2) Russia,being insane, did not care about the body count and was gathering troops to invade and the USA had already planned to reconstruct Japan as a platform to launch wars against other SEA countries and did not want to have to negotiate control of Japan with Russia.
>>51629978
This was the second World War that Germany had fought against the US in. We were worried that Nazi brainwashing could possibly cause the Germans to fight forever. There was a contingency plan called the Carthaginian Solution in case Germany didn't surrender, even after being defeated. This plan was the complete elimination of the German people (the way the Romans eliminated the Carthaginians after the second Punic war). A similar plan did not exist for Japan, which, as an island, would have been placed under a naval blockade and completely isolated from the world if they did not surrender.
>>51631917
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women
>Comfort women were women and girls who were forced into sexual slavery by the Imperial Japanese Army in occupied territories before and during World War II
>Many of the women were from occupied countries, including Korea, China, and the Philippines,[13] although women from Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan (then a Japanese dependency), Indonesia (then the Dutch East Indies), East Timor (then Portuguese Timor),[14][15] and other Japanese-occupied territories were used for military "comfort stations". Stations were located in Japan, China, the Philippines, Indonesia, then Malaya, Thailand, Burma, New Guinea, Hong Kong, Macau, and French Indochina.[16] A smaller number of women of European origin from the Netherlands and Australia were also involved.
>In the early stages of the war, Japanese authorities recruited prostitutes through conventional means. In urban areas, conventional advertising through middlemen was used alongside kidnapping
>The military turned to acquiring comfort women outside mainland Japan, especially from Korea and occupied China. Many women were tricked or defrauded into joining the military brothels.[25] The Japanese forced Hui Muslim girls in China to serve as sex slaves by setting up the "Huimin Girl's school" and enrolling Hui girls into the school for this purpose.[26]
>When the locals, especially Chinese, were considered hostile, Japanese soldiers carried out the "Three Alls Policy", which included indiscriminately kidnapping and raping local civilians.[27][28][29]
This is not the same thing as domestic prostitution.
>>51631924
>drop two a-bombs
>blame russians
classic stuff right there
>>51629978
It wasn't motivated by racism, idiot. But you're too busy denying war crimes to to realize.
From an entirely tactical standpoint, dropping the bomb was the correct move. We could stage a massive invasion with significantly lower casualties.
But beyond that? Why we dropped the bomb with zero hesitation? Because at that point we knew about all the shit the empire was doing. The rape houses in the Philippines where Japanese soldiers would literally rape women until they died (sometime continuing after). The Bataan death march. POW treatment. What Japan was doing in China and Korea. And at that point we did not give a single shit about the Japanese, and the generals had a new toy to play with.
Maybe once you pull your head out of your ass you'll remember that the fire bombings killed way more people and caused way more damage than the nukes. The fire bombings are the closest we came to committing an actual war crime against the Japanese.
The bombs were intended for Germany. It was inevitable.
>>51632046
then, is the US supposed to force Korean comfort women into sexual slavery during Vietnam war? I don't get it.
>>51632147
have forced*
>>51632075
It wasn't about "blaming"the Russians; the USA was fiercely competing with Russia for world domination. It was like playing RISK, which is popular on this board. The USA was racing to get the territory before Russia did. I am not justifying it; I am stating a fact that this is what we were taught in the government-funded public school system.
>>51632147
They were regular prostitutes. Not slaves and they were not being raped.
Your link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitutes_in_South_Korea_for_the_U.S._military
> it was the South Korean Army that controlled Wianbu units performing sexual services for United Nations and South Korean soldiers.[1][36] Throughout the Korean War, two separate types of comfort stations were operated.[37] One was U.N. Comfort Stations (UN위안소, UN慰安所) for UN peacekeeping units, and the other was Special Comfort Stations (특수위안소, 特殊慰安所) for soldiers of the Republic of Korea Army.[37] U.N. Comfort Stations were administered in collaboration with provincial governors, mayors and police.[38] The majority of women working in U.N. Comfort Stations were married and supporting their families.[38]
>>51632227
Your post reeks of bias in any case.
And I don't think the Allied command gave a rat's ass about the comfort women however the overall war crimes did sharpen their opinion that a land invasion would be very costly in lives. I remember seeing video in the 70's before that shit could all be manipulated with computers that showed (allegedly) Japanese women throwing their babies off of cliffs and then jumping because they literally thought that US soldiers would eat them. Imagine a mainland invasion.
>>51632231
>On June 25, 2014 122 surviving Korean comfort women for the U.S. forces filed a lawsuit against their government to reclaim human dignity and won ₩10 million (US$9800) compensation per plaintiff. According to the claim, they were supervised by the U.S. forces and the South Korean government and South Korean authorities colluded with pimps in blocking them from leaving. The suit comes as an distraction for the South Korean government which has been claiming Japan hasn’t fully compensated women forced to serve as sex slaves for the imperial Japanese military.[81][82][83]
I can't tell the difference
>>51632304
If you mean that I have an opinion, then yes, you are right. The OP's question was why did the USA drop two A-bombs and since I have Japanese friends IRL, this is a painful question for me to answer...but war is war and war is the 1940's was very different than it is now. Carpet bombing killed people, too, and the USA carpet bombed Germany. Protecting civilians was not an option given the technology available at the time.
...in the 1940's...
>>51632099
I don't say Japanese didn't commit war crimes, however I'm confused how could criminals who have killed more than 100milions(still keep doing in middle east), criticize another ciminal who killed a million?
To more clearly answer the OP's question, as to whether the USA would have used the A-bomb if the Japanese had been perceived as white, the answer is "no" because this is not how goverments make important wartime decisions, however, the Japanese were portrayed as subhuman monsters in government propaganda to gain public support for the bombings. The war machine was not interested on educating the public in geopolitics.
>>51632147
Americans didn't use prostitute, just went find women then raped and killed. later they pretend that nothing happened and blame japanese for setting prostitution.
this is Christian way to make up itself. the ultimate hypocricy.
>>51632744
wew, hirohito.
>>51632669
My Japanese friend: The bombing of your country with atomic or conventionalweapons was a tragedy. Basically, this was a tactical decision made by military commanders that were using a type of logic that is difficult for us to understand or contextualize now, over 60 years later. Part of this decision was based on fear: Fear of you, fear of the Russians. Please don't confuse this issue with American policy under GeorgeBBush or Obama as the entire geopolitical context is different. I don't want anyone to die in any war ever, but the emperor was not just going to surrender for no reason. Obviously this would be harder for me to accept if it hadbeen my town and my ancestors that were bombed, but everntually I would have to accept it. War is war. If I could change it I would, but I can't.
>>51630802
THE GREATEST NATION DEMANDS YOUR BLOOD
The pictures of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the most atrocious one you've ever seen.
You guys never know it.
Why did you use the bomb against elder and child person first?
When you used it, Japanese military didn't lose even one soldier or one fighter.
Japanese fighting power didn't decrease at all, and only civilians died.
>>51629978
the horrific truth
1.Hiroshima had been kept undamaged for 'the experimental reason'.
2.US military officers came to Hiroshima just after the bombing and took 'samples' from victims without any medical treatment.
3. the survivors f the bombs have been still traced by US experimental research unit as sample even today.
I believe those Americans are not human, devils incanated into man's body.
>>51630563
I'm gonna need you to come with me
>>51632744
dude, don't do this. I feel like listening to pitiful lies gooks and chinks have told
>>51634672
I don't*
fuck
>>51630467
like teaching your civilians to jump off a cliff by the thousands when the Americans are coming because the Americans will eat you?
>>51629978
In March of that same year, 75,000–200,000 japs were killed in the Firebombing of Tokyo.
Why don't they get so upset about this event?
Why didn't they just surrender? Did they want to surrender to the Soviets?
>>51629978
If you hadn't been so racist, you would have surrendered sooner.
>>51634814
you guys had exterminated natives in America continent. no wonder why Japanese chose to jump off.
>>51630259
>he's a leftist masochist cuk
Come to germany! You'll fit right into our culture :)
#RefugeesWelcome
#FuckGermany
>>51634814
>>51635012
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States
>>51629978
>I beleive If we Japanese were white, it would have never happened.
Yeah, cos Dresden and Hamburg are totally full of non white people. Retard.
>>51634964
we don't consider you Americans learn the bombings and mass destruction except the two nukes.
はいはい
>>51635187
But Koreans are #1 Asians! They have sexiest Asian women and don't commit atrocities. (North is false korean)
Japan like #4 or #5 Asian. Ugly people. look like monkeys. Why you guys want to eat people so badly? Why does it keep popping up?
>>51629978
This.
I agree with this OP.
pic related.Americans believe that A bomb were justice...But if we were white we didn't got A bomb.
pic related.
They didn't tweet if their American ”women”lost game at german women.
>>51635493
>image has too low resolution to see
>tricked into squinting by dumb gook
Well played Takeshami
But you forgot the decades after WWII where we had our nukes aimed at the Russies. But then again, Russia has actual intelligent beings, not just dirty jap monkeys who want to eat people.
>>51635493
Nice unreadable image gook.
Honestly you should be grateful for surrendering to the USA. The Soviet Union was ready to do a land invasion and would have turned Japan into a communist shithole.
>>51635588
>>51635578
ne?
thanks for proving that Americans are racist and dumb...
both of you can't respond to my posting.
>>51635657
Maybe if you spoke proper English, like the rest of the civilized world, cannibalist.
>>51630259
Do not confuse a gamble and a mistake, high risk high reward.
>>51635588
>The Soviet Union was ready to do a land invasion
USSR was too weak after WWII to attack anyone. Nice propaganda excuse though :3
>>51635812
>over 1.5 million Soviet troops in Japan occupied Manchuria
Oh yeah, I guess it would be just too much work for the Soviets to send those troops across the sea. Fucking retard.
>we are better than USSR
>so it's ok that A bomb use on women and children
what the fuck is this retard?
>>51635986
How about the fact that a million slavs didn't land in your shitty Island, start raping your women and ruin your economy forever with garbage communist policies?
All your nation's success is due to American reconstruction of your government and economy.
With the USSR in charge you'd be a third world failed state.
>>51635986
Maybe you arrogant gooks should have surrendered the first time we asked.
>>51636069
>l your nation's success is due to American reconstruction of your government and economy.
Japan was developed country without USA's ”economy” in 1940.
>>51630266
>back then
>>51635942
We didn't have resources to fight anymore. Your history lessons are twisted but that's understood. Advocating nuclear genocide isn't an easy job.
>>51635942
>mighty murrica wasn't able to conquer japan thus decided to drop 2 Bombs
>weakened USSR could do that in mere days
your bs is showing.
>>51636416
Nuclear bombing of Japan didn't give Americans any strategic edge, it was just a showoff
Playing butthurt is falling right into their arms
>>51629978
The nuclear weapons were originally intended to be dropped on German cities. Germany surrendered before then, so we had to change our plans. Race was absolutely not a factor in the decision-making process.
>>51630571
Then why are you slowly turning into a spineless european country?
>>51636745
Just drop it already. This is getting cringy
>>51636594
1.Hiroshima had been kept undamaged for 'the experimental reason'.
2.US military officers came to Hiroshima just after the bombing and took 'samples' from victims without any medical treatment.
3. the survivors f the bombs have been still traced by US experimental research unit as sample even today.
those are 100% truth, the survivors gave evidence. I don't think you guys can do the same to Germans.
I'm not Korean, don't like being butthurt. also ordinary Americans were never responsible for the whole event. however I was terrified of their coldblood act rather than anger.
>>51636433
Right, I'm sure that's why a few years later they're setting up dozens of satellites and acting as a superpower against the USA in the Cold War.
>>51636501
We had the means to invade and win, President Truman simply preferred the option that didn't put millions of US troops in a new war zone against fanatical Japs willing to fight to the death.
Unlike Soviet Slavs who tell their population of slaves to invade for glorious communism and they obeyed out of fear.
it's undeniably true that American were as crazy as or more than Japanese were back then
Japs seem to be russian tier brainwashed and delusional about their war crimes.
>>51629978
probably true..
>>51637224
S.Korea in Europoor pls go
>>51629978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5XJ2GiR6Bo
People are clearly okay with bombing mostly civillain cities. Why not bomb rakka and mossul?
SHOULD HAVE DROPPED 2 MORE
USA YOU DUN GOOFD
>>51637426
then polad should be nuked.
>>51637459
yes because we murdered 6 million jews(out of which 3 were Polish citizens) and 4 million Poles
>>51637411
cuz they sell stolen oil to US
>>51629978
No,because Fukushima wind reached western America.
and Chernobyl is white's area too.
>>51635493
Haha
Nice american education
>>51629978
The bombings weren't racist, they were originally going to momb the Germans, and they spent decades pointing them at the Russians. What was racist was the pacifist clause. The Germans were far worse and they were still allowed to make war and keep an army.
>>51629978
Don't be so full of yourself, retard. We developed the bombs to nuke Germany.
The USSR accelerated the invasion by throwing footsoldiers at East Germany and we lost our chance.
>>51636356
>"developed country"
>with no iron
yeah good luck with that
