I dream of federal Europe
>>51625923
I dream of feudal japan
>>51625923
>t. german
Quelle surprise.
fuck off
>>51625923
Me too but that flag sucks
>>51626031
better?
go fuck yourself
>>51625981
>>51626103
why are you so rude, my European brothers?
>>51626132
Because I don't want to live in degenerate islamic socialist shithole
>>51626132
Because I don't want button pushers in Brussels ruling over my country.
REFUGEES WELCOME!
>>51626170
neither do I, and I disagree with Germanys current refugee politic.
But I don't see why this current problem should prevent us becoming a federation in the long term
>>51626185
If the button pushers are in Brussels or Stockholm, what's the principle difference?
>>51625923
your inner jew is showing, hans
>>51626214
firstly get a cure for your cückness, Jürgen
>>51626076
Post flag designs for U.S.E.
>>51625923
I dream of him at night.
>>51626269
Because button pushers in Stockholm will (mostly) push buttons to secure Swedish interests.
Button pushers in Brussels will push buttons to secure their own interests.
Just like how the EU constantly tries to ban snus even though that we could still have our snus was a condition of us even joining the EU in the first place.
>>51626548
>Because button pushers in Stockholm will (mostly) push buttons to secure Swedish interests.
Are you sure that current Swedish political parties are acting in the best interest of Swedish people?
>>51626587
>(mostly)
>>51626301
that's just the German in him
>>51625923
You dream of sharing the same shithole with Bulgaria?
Cool m8, enjoy your shit tier new HDI and GDP
>>51625923
A great caliphate will unite the troubled people of the continent and lead to a new golden age of Islam in europe.
>>51626661
>Eusoc
I ain't Yuro so it's not something upon me, but:
BAD IDEA.
>>51626622
>>(mostly)
>>51625923
yea keep dreaming faggot
you can only have it if you force communism over everybody
in other words it will never last and causes chaos and fear
>>51626969
I don't really understand what European Federation has to do with communism
>>51625923
You don't fool me, Hans.
>>51627237
>impyling that would be a bad thing
>>51628657
What about being required to abide to laws that make no fucking sense in [insert your Bundesland] just because it makes sense in Northern Scotland, or Galicia, or Peloponnese, or what have you?
What about federal taxes being used for nothing you care about, but still being paid from your pocket?
What about a government even more distant from the general population, both geographically and politically?
I won't even mention the "open borders" for then internal migrants, your cities exploding due to overpopulation, the currency being valued/devalued/kept as it is because of some random place, cultureshock and shit like that because it already happens.
Sorry, but no: a federalized Europe is bad for you guys.
>>51629078
>What about being required to abide to laws that make no fucking sense in [insert your Bundesland] just because it makes sense in Northern Scotland, or Galicia, or Peloponnese, or what have you?
In a federation, laws should always be made as local as possible
>What about federal taxes being used for nothing you care about, but still being paid from your pocket?
Same as in a normal gouvernment
>What about a government even more distant from the general population, both geographically and politically?
not futher away than in USA
>>51629511
>In a federation, laws should always be made as local as possible
They won't due to the balance of power: the federal government will always try to grab the States' power, even when it's worse for the general population. This means plenty laws that "should" be local will be made federal.
>Same as in a normal government
It's worse than what the constituent members have now.
>not futher away than in USA
IMHO still bad, both in USA and your USE idea.
And remember that the USA are culturally far, far more homogeneous than Europe; so the odds the fucktards in power and you are somehow like-minded are far greater in the USA, and almost null in Europe/USE.
>>51629699
>They won't due to the balance of power: the federal government will always try to grab the States' power, even when it's worse for the general population. This means plenty laws that "should" be local will be made federal.
Worked so far in the federal republic of germany
You faggots hate each other too much to unite on that level.
>>51629966
It hasn't worked in the US, which also happen to be a much better analogy.
>>51629966
BDR has, like, 80 megaheads and 16 lands?
Now multiply both by six or seven, and you get another level of problems.
And one can argue, that Germany still didn't have enough time to develop these problems... the current State is arguably from 1945 or maybe 1990.
I know, that I'm just an outsider talking about your politics and that it's possible that I'm skipping stuff you know better about the local political scene. But when you make certain comparisons as Canada vs. USA, Uruguay vs. Argentina/Brazil, Switzerland vs. France/Germany and the likes, it's quite obvious who ends in better in general.
