>Who caused the World War 1? Not muslims (millions died)
>Who caused the World War 2? Not muslims (millions died)
>Who killed 6 million Jews? Not muslims
>Who dropped Atomic bomb on Japanese cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Not muslims
>Who massacred Aboriginal people as a result of European colonisation in Australia? Not muslims
>Who massacred the redskins in America? Not muslims
>Who enslaved and killed millions of Africans? Not muslims
>Who killed millions of Vietnamese people? Not muslims
>Who killed millions of Algerians? Not muslims
>Who killed thousands of Afghan civilians? Not muslims
>Who killed half a million Iraqis as a result of US invasion? Not muslims
>Who killed nearly 100,000 Bosnians during the Bosnian War? Not muslims
>Who killed and still kills thousands and thousands of kids and babies in Palestine? Not muslims
>Who killed and still kills thousands of civilians in East Turkestan? Not muslims
But somehow muslims are violent terrorist??
>Who kills innocent people the most in name of their god in the 21st century?
Shoo, t*rkroach
proofs?
>Chinese
>Atheist
>Early history
Why are muslims so fucking retarded?
>mixing religions with "chinese" and "early history"
?????????????????????
>Atheists branded as one
>Chinese
>Early history
What kind of bait is this? It's weak!
Atheists killed people while screaming "science akbar" and using Newton laws as justification?
Atheists aren't even a group ffs, they're the exact oppisite, individuas who don't belong to any single group.
>implying most major European conflicts haven't been for secular reasons
>>51609127
>lawrence the britfag funds fundamental wahhabis
>waaaaah why are they attacking us
ah look, another muslim dindunuffin discussion
Mohammed takes it up the butt. 2/10 for making me post you goat fucker
The question isn't who has killed most in the past, the question is who is killing most now? You can't change the past, you can't bring people back from the dead. However, you can stop senseless beheadings and terrorism.
>>51608974
That's because they are so fucking backwards they never progressed far enough to do damage to anyone expect each other.
Even now they are relying on western innovations to try and bring us back to the stone age
If muslims had the capability westerns powers have/had the Jews would be all dead and the world would be reduced to a pathetic pile of shit. Just how the Middle East is now and always will be.
>chinese
>atheists
>early history
>religions
someone get the insect spray
Chances are, that tomorrow i wont be blown away by a "early history" suicide bomber. a Muslim on the other hand..
>THIS RELIGIOUS GROUP KILLED PEOPLE IN THE PAST SO ITS OKAY IF ANOTHER GROUP DOES IT NOW
>>51608974
>Who killed nearly 100,000 Bosnians during the Bosnian War? Not muslims
Bosnians Serbs and Croats also fall under "Bosnians" and Muslims killed those.
And modern Muslim massacres are low because you're too weak.
>>51608974
>implying that image is correct
>implying muslims don't dominate violence in modern times
We turkroaches are good boys, we dindu nuffin!
>>51608974
>Who killed and still kills thousands and thousands of kids and babies in Palestine?
No one.
>>51609297
>Atheists aren't even a group ffs
Then stop trying to imply that atheism and science are somehow connected.
And yes, militant atheists did kill religious people.
>>51609627
>>51609568
>>51609455
>>51609439
>>51609358
>>51609390
>>51609137
>>51609127
oy oy oy gözyaşlarına gel :-DDDDDD :DDDD
>>51608974
That was then, this is now.
Frankly, putting nationalities in the same category as religions is absurd anyway. Treating atheism as if it were a religion was pushing it as it is.
>>51609568
It's just their turn, m8. It's unfair to object to it.
>>51608974
I mean, whatever mehmet, can you just fucking stop coming to Europe and live in your own shit countries instead of making ours worse?
>>51609678
>militant atheists did kill religious people.
u are making it sound as if there has been some genocide at the hands of "organized atheists" i demand proofs.
>>51608974
Turk diaspora in Canada are pretty based and the ones I've met are hardcore secularists, but you have to admit...there are a lot of retarded Sunni Muslims.
Honestly, what the fuck are they thinking?
Attacking night clubs, now attacking their coworkers. Sunnis are working hard to make the world hate the.
A reminder that Europeans killed more people in 10 years than Muslims in a life time.
>>51609678
They are connected, agnostic atheism is the only scientifically sound view.
>>51608974
Congratulations, you got some people caught.
Now what's the next step in your "master plan?"
>>51609834
oh ok then it's alright to be a retarded fanatic and blow yourself in the middle of a crowd of innocent people
how can one be so dumb?
>>51609750
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_%281928%E2%80%9341%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Militant_Atheists#Activities
>>51609941
>how can one be so dumb?
ugh, ask them or people who encourage them.
>>51609941
Its not okay on both sides
But we didn't bitch and moan back then and we didn't use European as an example of barbarism like what your people are doing to these days
>>51609978
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_%281928%E2%80%9341%29
And nothing of value was lost
>>51609978
Japanese are atheists too, you don't see them going overseas to kill Muslims.
It's almost as if the real problem was giving the government too much power rather than that they didn't believe in God.
>>51609750
>coming from a Latvian
Is this banter? Soviets killed over 15 million of Christians because of state atheism. French revolutionaries killed thousands of priests in order to replace Christianity with the worship of "Reason".
>>51609849
Science is the study of the material world, it has no connecting points with religion. Religion is a completely different mode of human activity just like art and philosophy are.
>>51609255
>Chinese don't have various religions
Fucking idiot
>>51609978
Well if we count those to atheism (even though one could argue they were more or less political for commies to have dissenting voices shut). It's still the most peaceful one. But in the end, ones religion hardly matters, it is how devout and blind one is being to facts of real world. That's what creates extremism.
>>51608974
>>Who killed thousands of Afghan civilians? Not muslims
>>Who killed half a million Iraqis as a result of US invasion? Not muslims
you're off by a couple of millions, buddy.
Fun fact, Iraq had sanctions imposed on it prior to 9/11, claiming they had WMDs. Those sanctions included vaccines, medical equipment, basic human necessities.
As a result, an estimated over 500,000 Iraq Children died. In response to this atrocity, Madeleine Albright (Secretary of State) was asked to comment on the matter. She said "it was worth it"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=RM0uvgHKZe8 - Albright
https://youtu.be/8OLPWlMmV7s?t=687 - The Children
https://youtu.be/lDutkYQF9d8?t=3471 - WMDs were never really an issue
The US has killed more than 2 million people since 2001 [X],
X: http://www.psr.org/assets/pdfs/body-count.pdf
>>51610117
hahahah fucking japs were the muslims of WW2 literally blowing themselves up and kamikaze attacking so they can see their ancestors in some stupid shrine
>>51610163
>Chinese is a religion
"no"
>>51610044
It happened centuries ago, hilarious to see how frustrated you are. Arabs can't handle the fact that we've become infinitely better than them at pretty much everything
>>51610180
fug, last time i posted ded children i got banned permanently for CP
>>51609273
early history kinda goes, i mean you cant expect him to know the names of all their shitty religions
>>51610216
They blew themselves up because the Japanese Military Industrial Complex was literally committing suicide, nothing to do with religion.
>>51610144
>because of state atheism
No, because the "state atheism" took priority over freedom of speech. You don't see Japan slaughtering Christians.
If the state can trample free speech the way Soviets did, you've already given them enough power to kill with impunity.
>>51608974
Kill yourself you fucking roach
>>51608974
>who enslaved millions of africans
What is the arab slavetrade? Are you dense? Westerneres had to atop you from enslaving people, you were the true king s of slavery
>>51610216
That was then, this is now.
>>51608974
those are totally politically influenced situations, which for some reason it is more justifiable than by religious/doomsday nuts.
>>51609978
>Communists
>>51610144
>Communists
Literally what kind of arguments are those?
Did the nazis kill jews because of their religion or because they were undesirable to their regime?
>>51610237
But even so, Killing a million people 2000BC is much greater deal than killing today. Not that I condone killing people. Secondly most of those kills (for every one of them) are mostly political/geographical ones which were fueled by religious fervor, not necessary to clean infidels.
>>51610117
>Islamic terrorists kill people
>oy vey, this is why religion is horrible
>militant atheist kill people
>#NOTALLATHEISTS
>>51610102
Pointless edginess. You're just confirming the point he's making.
>>51608974
>Who caused the World War 1?
Serbian who was under Islamic rule for a long period.
>Who caused the World War 2?
Someone who despised Christianity but admired Islam.
>Who killed 6 million Jews?
The same painter.
>Who dropped Atomic bomb on Japanese cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Planes.
>Who massacred Aboriginal people as a result of European colonisation in Australia?
Banter.
>Who massacred the redskins in America?
Diseases.
>Who enslaved and killed millions of Africans?
Everyone, including Africans.
>Who killed millions of Vietnamese people?
The Apache people.
>Who killed millions of Algerians?
Whoever did it, fucked up.
>Who killed thousands of Afghan civilians?
Local Warlords.
>Who killed half a million Iraqis as a result of US invasion?
Collateral damage.
>Who killed nearly 100,000 Bosnians during the Bosnian War?
Your ex-vassals.
>Who killed and still kills thousands and thousands of kids and babies in Palestine?
No one.
>Who killed and still kills thousands of civilians in East Turkestan?
Soon our new masters.
>>51610230
>It happened centuries ago
It happened 100 years ago, which is a fraction in history years.
My point is, every nation had its own nigger moment, no matter how "civilized" it might be. and you can't deny that. We're having our own
nigger moment
Cool estimates. Forgot about those on the muslim conquests in the indian subcontinent though.
>>51608974
Bla bla bla syka. It's all kebab bulshit. Muslims are evil murderers. They are all insane and pray to their god of violence and rape. Go fuck yourself, churka.
>>51610044
>But we didn't bitch and moan back then
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN LEL
>>51610230
>Arabs can't handle the fact that we've become infinitely better than them at pretty much everything
Except at, you know, preserving your own culture and reproducing.
Europe is shit at that.
>>51610144
>Science is the study of the material world
The only world of which there is any evidence of existence.
>it has no connecting points with religion.
Yes it does, religion theorises the origin of things we observe the same as science. It's not beholden to some special criteria where the rules don't apply. Religion as an explanation for the universe is not incomparable to science, it's just unscientific in nature.
turk genocide best day of my life
>>51610361
No, it's a perfectly reasonable distinction. Islam is a religion. Christianity is a religion. "I fon't believe in God" is not a religion.
>>51610384
Oh look, Jews trying to blame Islam for everything yet again
Just like the Holocaust
>>51610389
So it's alright to be a nigger if there's been niggers in the past. And yet, the funniest thing is that no one killed more muslims than muslims themselves and it goes on.
Cool civilization, bro
>>51610384
>blaming "planes" for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
You do realize this is pretty much the nuclear equivalent of "guns kill" right?
>>51610361
>Pointless edginess.
Don't think its pointless.
Actually nothing good ever came from orthodoxy.
They may have pretty temples, but that's it.
Also, what's wrong with telling people what there is no God, and science is the future?
>>51610427
>I believe no one should believe in god and I'm really mad about it (militant athiesm)
isn't a religion, it's a cult at best
those deaths are equally worthy of being included in tallies, no exclusion is given just because
even though really religion wasn't the important aspect in most of the OP's death toll
>>51610268
>atheists trying to worm their way out
Stop being pathetic.
>>51610316
Christians were undesirable to the Soviets because of their religious identity. Don't pretend you're stupid. The Soviet regime had strictly atheistic, it was an important part of their ideology and they made an enemy out of everyone who disagreed with it.
>>51610044
You still bitcg and moan about crusades from 1000 years ago you lying piece of shit.
>''''''''''''''''''''Chinese''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Who killed millions of Armenians and Greeks and won't admit it?
>>51610268
holy fuck your so delusional, Japs are a majority shinto buddhist fuckfest (atleast culturally). The only reason they don't have their warrior culture still is because America freedomed their island to oblivion.
>>51610525
And who gets to say how mad is "really mad?"
I'm angry at religion. I'm angry that it encouraged people not to hold beliefs to scrutiny. I'm angry that it taught us to fear what sort of people we would be without God, despite the existence of Japan. I'm angry no one seems to notice how connected those things are. But I'm not angry enough about it to kill anyone over it. Where would I be categorized on this?
>>51608974
take your propaganda somewhere else
>>51608974
>Who enslaved and killed millions of Africans?
muslims actually
>>51610591
I'm saying they didn't kill because they were atheist, but because they were COMMUNIST. Don't pretend you're brain dead and don't understand it.
They aren't killing religious people because of the atheist bit, but because of the communist bit. You dipshit.
On a weird side note, communists were borderline fine with muslims. That's why the muslim countries within the USSR remained muslim countries all throughout the period.
>>51610695
"Culturally?" In other words they don't really believe that crap. And they admit to as much in surveys.
>>51610478
Don't throw rock at people if your house is made of glass.
France and Britain claim civility and they've done much worse things in the past. but it's okay now since it's all in the past
and all you're saying now is lol let's forget about it
>>51610598
Literally no one cares about that anymore.
I've been using the internet as far as I could remember and only on /pol/ people are discussing the crusade.
>>51610361
You don't kill someone in the name of nonexistant gods you stupid fucker. Why is this so hard to understand
>Muslim kills his neighbour because his dog shat on mulim's yard
Not a religious homicide
>Muslim kills somebody in the name of Allah
Religious homicide
>Atheist kills kills his neighbour because his dog shat on atheist's yard
Not a religious homicide
>Atheist kills in the name of ???'
This can't happen because THEY DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IN GOD
>>51610718
Irrelevant, but that doesn't stop militant athiests from being expressly militant.
If we're going to exclude Athiesm as though it's not related, why not exclude all the deaths unrelated to Christianity that get lumped in with muh 170million?
just an excuse to shit on Christianity and excuse Islam.
>Who killed and still kills thousands and thousands of kids and babies in Palestine?
no one
>>51610591
I notice you accuse me of trying to worm my way out but have no rebuttal to what I said.
>>51610427
>"I fon't believe in God" is not a religion
I never implied it is, you underdeveloped idiot, but a state of militant atheists is definitely an organised group.
>>51610498
>Actually nothing good ever came from orthodoxy.
Maybe educate yourself first.
>>51608974
>Who enslaved and killed millions of Africans? Not muslims
>>51610835
There's definitely more ambiguity to the blame than the 170 million figure would imply. But even in the more clear-cut cases of blame, Japanese atheism is still a preferable alternative.
>>51610766
I dont understand this whole putting Japan on a high pedestal, they arnt violent because they are an atheist society (which they arnt) they are peaceful because they were destroyed in ww2 much like how germany isnt the same as it was before 1945
>>51610730
t. ultra-orthodox
>>51610845
Anti-theism =/= Atheism
>>51610384
>Serbian who was under Islamic rule for a long period.
What the actual fuck, you really think WW1 wouldn't happen if Franz Ferdinand wasn't killed? This shallow understanding of history is what got us here.
>>51610966
#notallmuslims
>>51610790
>Atheist kills in the name of ???'
Karl Marx, the man that could be compared to their prophet who railed against the dangers of religion.
>>51610767
>I've been using the internet as far as I could remember and only on /pol/ people are discussing the crusade.
Motherfucker Arab media brings them up CONSTANTLY as do Islamist groups across the globe.
>>51610966
>No True Scotsman
>>51610845
The post that started this conversation was "atheists aren't even a group." Which is true. A few people killing on behalf of the Soviet Union, whose own reasons for being against religion aren't necessarily everyone else's, doesn't mean atheism can reasonably be blamed.
As for atheism vs. militant atheism... see the post earlier in the thread about the blurred distinction.
I agree with what OP posted.
And we should kill 100-200 millions more, to be honest, to sort shit out finally and get things back into place.
>>51610760
Their communist ideology held that they must be atheists and that religious people have no place in their utopia. Trying to escape this with your "they're communists, not atheists" bullshit is spineless cowardice. They were both. Yugoslavs were also commies, but they didn't slaughter Christians.
>>51610790
You don't need to kill in anyone's name for it to be a religiously-motivated murder. If a militant atheist kills a Christians merely because this person is a Christian and for no other reason, then the murder was motivated by his atheistic hatred of religion.
>>51610936
Ultra-Orthodox Jews hate Israel and cry about how the Palestinians are treated, you troglodyte.
>>51610415
"Hey guys, I assumed an ontology and now this other ontology won't fit into it? Wut do?"
>Literally begging the question.
"Theorizes about origins"
Is that what they taught you in Sunday school? And you believed them before rejecting them? Sad.
Answer the question: Why? Avoiding the question isn't an answer.
>>51610928
Germany is a lot more militaristic than Japan, though. Not US-level militaristic, but that's beside the point.
Instead they're exerting power over other countries financially. Their shenanigans with Greece come to mind.
>>51610767
Nobody said about forgeting it, but there's no point in reminding those things in order to diminish the importance/urgence of others.
>>51611224
if germans could they would be going for a 3rd loss in a row.
>>51611055
>he thinks this is an argument
>>51611126
No. True scotman fallacy would be saying that a real atheist wouldn't do it, which is not what I said. What I said is that anti-theism is a different thing than atheism.
Associating the killings of Stalin with atheism could as well be associated with being russian, being white, or having a fucking mustache.
>>51611135
No relevant Christian denomination will tell you that you should slaughter Muslims but if a man who called himself Christian would put on a crusader's tabard and run into the local mosque with an AK-47, you'd call him a Christian fanatic and said that his crime was motivated by religion, and I'd even agree with you.
But somehow, if an atheist would run into a mosque and kill Muslims because he hates religion he's just a nutjob and the crime is not at all motivated by his atheistic worldview?
Don't be a hypocrite.
>>51611301
4th loss
>Holy Roman Empire
destroyed by the French
>German Empire
destroyed by the French
>Third Reich
destroyed by the Russians
>>51611388
dubs of right.
Just fuck off fucking islamist
>>51611154
>his atheistic hatred of religion.
>atheistic hatred
But this doesn't exist. Because atheism (unlike religions) is not dogmatic. You are an atheist only and to the extent that you don't believe in god.
If someone kills bald people because he hate them and happens to be have hair, that doesn't means that having hair kills people.
Now if people make a fucking cult out of having hair and make a sacred book that says that the hairy god in the sky tells them to kill bald people, then THE HAIR CULT kills people, still not having fucking hair.
>implying the atomic bombs were a bad thing
>>51611305
>No. True scotman fallacy would be saying that a real atheist wouldn't do it, which is not what I said. What I said is that anti-theism is a different thing than atheism.
No. Anti-theists are atheists. And if you categorize fanatical christian/muslim crimes as christian/muslim crimes then you mast do same with fanatical atheists.
>>51611305
>Associating the killings of Stalin with atheism could as well be associated with being russian, being white, or having a fucking mustache.
Yes it could if you want compare deaths caused by people with moustache to people without it.
> Atheists
> Chinese
Ok, so when you decide to not believe on a personificated mythological entity or not specially adhering to a regular cult community this is considered like a religion or a culture ?
also the "atheists" who massively kills people were communists regime...
> early history
?????
do you realize they were a very few number of humans at this times ??? and probably kills a lot for bullshit because of barbaric primitives customs and beliefs ? or just asshole warrior society ?
Muslims don't massively kills people but they made a huge numbers of oppressive, violent and retarded societies full of slavery and wars....
Sunni Islam is completly rotten inside
>>51610498
>Actually nothing good ever came from orthodoxy
>Literally just orthodoxy under Byzantium kept Greek science and scholars alive in Europe for 1000 years
JUST
>>51611214
>"Theorizes about origins"
Yes, believing that the earth, humanity, the universe was created by a being is a theory in any sense of the world.
>Is that what they taught you in Sunday school?
Not sunday school, but yes. Are you arguing that the bible does not make such claims?
>Why?
Why what?
>>51611154
I already pointed out how they didn't persecute Muslims. Which fucks your whole atheist vs theist thing. You are acting as if they were beheading theists by the million for the sole reason of them being theist. They weren't. If they did, they would have had to kill EVERYONE.
And again, the people they killed they did so because those people were undesirable. They targeted priests and religious leaders. As they did with any other form of influential people / leaders who didn't agree with communism.
Your views are not compatible with communism? To the fucking gulag with you.
The priests were targeted because of their power. There can be no power but absolute state power in totalitarianism.
>>51611485
You're failing to make a distinction between atheism (which is a gnostic position on the existence of a deity), and Atheism (a contemporary cluster of ideologies with various programs).
There are Atheist movements that maintain their gnostic position as a central ideological tenant but are necessarily disparate from that tenant. YA dig?
>>51610845
>Croat gonna tell me about orthodoxy
Go on
>>51611553
>And if you categorize fanatical christian/muslim crimes as christian/muslim crimes then you mast do same with fanatical atheists.
If they kill in the name of their god then they're christian/muslim crimes.
You can't kill in the name of ______
Also, atheism is not a religion. It has no dogma. It has no sacred book. It doesn't demands anything from the person. It's doesn't warrants anything for the person. This is why atheism can't kill, because it's just a fucking specific definition for disbelief in a special entity (god). Atheism is not a way of living.
If you can't understand this difference then you're just retarded and there's no point discussing any further.
>Yes it could if you want compare deaths caused by people with moustache to people without it.
Still doesn't mean that mustaches kill people
>>51611327
That's what we have hate crimes legislation for.
Even in the Christian example I'd only call Christianity an ingredient, not the entirety of the hate crime, but atheism isn't even an ingredient, because it doesn't refer to belief but the absence thereof.
>>51611485
>But this doesn't exist
Jesus Christ. It does. An atheist who hates religion is motivated by his atheistic views. That doesn't imply that atheism is inherently hateful of religion, but it is atheism that would be the cause of this person's hate. And when you have a political party that actively promotes state atheism and prosecutes the religious, you're dealing with organised militant atheism.
>then THE HAIR CULT kills people
By your logic no religion can by blamed for killing anyone unless this killing is explicitly ordered by this religion's scriptural authorities. That would mean that only religions that involve ritual human sacrifice should be listed in OP's picture.
>>51611626
I already said anti-theism =/= atheism, but they don't seem to understand.
Who is killing innocent people right now ? Oh yes
Muslims
>>51609627
>implying muslims don't dominate violence in modern times
>what is NATO
>what is the "war on terror"
ooooh canadaaaa
>>51611850
>An atheist who hates religion is motivated by his atheistic views
No, because atheism is not telling you to do or stop doing anything you faglord. There're no ATHEISTIC VIEWS. Atheism is just not believing in gods.
God you're dense
>>51611850
>what are crusades
>what is allah ackbar etc
>>51610231
yu are doing id rong polan
>>51610230
>It happened centuries ago
>what is algeria
>>51611945
>what is the "war on terror"
Joke?
>>51611985
You literally don't know how to think. Seriously, some people should take thinking classes in school.
>There're no ATHEISTIC VIEWS
Atheism itself is a worldview/opinion/stance. If you look at a bunch of Hindus and think "religious people are stupid and should die", you're a militant atheism. It's that fucking simple.
>what are crusades
A series of war done for the sake of protecting Christian interests in a time where religious identity was more important and political than ethnic identity.
>what is allah ackbar etc
A phrase meaning "God is great".
>>51612105
Completely deserved tbqh
>>51611818
That's perfect No True Scotsman fallacy.
Race also has no dogma, no book, but deaths can be motivated by race. Same with atheism.
>>51611818
>Still doesn't mean that mustaches kill people
But for the sake of statistics you can group them.
>>51612257
>Atheism itself is a worldview/opinion/stance.
Atheism is as much a religion/worldview/opinion/stance as a turned off TV is a channel.
>>51610217
It clearly says culture
>>51612318
>x culture is responsible for y number of deaths
Meaningless statement ignorant of what the word culture means
>>51611614
>they didn't persecute Muslims
Stalin did.
>they would have had to kill EVERYONE.
They wanted an atheist population. By killing the clergy and most vocal Christians, they would discourage everyone from religion.
>>51612309
>Atheism is as much a religion
I didn't say that it's a religion, don't put words into my mouth. And yes, of course it's a stance. If you say "God doesn't exist" you're giving out an opinion.
>>51612361
You're pointing me towards a post that says "atheism is a position".
>>51611945
>it's a german muslim opinion
Good goy
>>51612649
Yes, a gnostic position on a particular, singular truth value. Not a "worldview" or "ideology"
>>51609127
Half this board thinks Christians have always been peaceful, though
>>51612524
>They wanted an atheist population. By killing the clergy and most vocal Christians, they would discourage everyone from religion.
They were fighting against power that doesn't come from the state. The causalities were religious leaders and priests.
>>51612649
>If you say "God doesn't exist" you're giving out an opinion.
If there was no theism to ask the question of - Do you believe in god? There would be no reason to answer "God doesn't exist".
The statement of "God doesn't exist" is a reactionary statement and not an opinion.
Imagine a tribe who have no concept of god. There is no discussion of whether or not someone is or isn't a theist within that tribe so atheism isn't even an opinion it just sort of ...is. With no way to define it and nothing associated with it.
>>51608974
>killed =/ let it die from starvation and other illness
>>51612795
I never called it an ideology. But atheism is a position that can be a starting from which an individual might develop hatred towards religion. If an atheist hates religion you can't deny that it's related to him being an atheist.
>>51613007
>They were fighting against power
I think they made it clear themselves what they were fighting against.
>If there was no theism to ask the question of
Saying this is pointless when arguing with someone like me who holds that God does exist.
>>51610444
Is this a joke? Muslims literally blame Jews for everything. Muslims blame everyone except Islam for all their problems. You guys are just niggers who can't face the facts. Please get holocausted soon.
>>51611165
that's only one group of jews who hate israel, there is no shortage of ultra-orthodox jews yearning to move to israel and settle the palestinian territories
>>51613335
I think isis is a jew-western invention to be honest.
Who needs isis to keep their enemies busy?
>>51613316
>I think they made it clear themselves what they were fighting against.
George Bush said he is invading Iraq because they have weapons of mass destruction.
>>51613316
>Saying this is pointless when arguing with someone like me who holds that God does exist.
You didn't react to the fact that atheism is as much an opinion as a turned off tv is a channel.
I love how despite facts showing the opposite, Muslims believe millions of Palestinians were killed but deny the Armenian, Assyrian, Greek, genocides. They killed more none Muslims in Syria in one year then Israel killed people in its inception and Muslims are currently still killing people everywhere yet it's always "not all Muslims". Then why "not all zionists"? You monkeys are the most hypocritical annoying people on the planted and everyone's tired of listening to your bitching.
>>51613445
Then you're dumb or Muslim. Muslims have had terrorism since the beginning and always will.
>>51608974
>Atheism
Because the lack of belief in the Tooth Fairy (or God, same shit) has eeeeeeeeeeverything to do with Holodomor and others, right?
Oh wait, it doesn't.
>>51613452
>George Bush said he is invading Iraq because they have weapons of mass destruction.
He said that because his real goal was less moral. But saying that religion needs to be wiped off because it's poison isn't exactly a lie you say to cover something up. Were Marx's hostile statements towards religion lies told to cover up his real intentions? No, they were statements of his militant atheism.
>You didn't react to the fact that atheism is as much an opinion as a turned off tv is a channel.
Turning off the TV is an action just like switching channels is.
>>51608974
This picture gave me cancer desu
>>51609739
Not when they start killing us. If no muslims lived in the west I wouldn't really care, but they've brought their stone age to the modern age.
>>51608974
>Turk funding ISIL.
Hello-ha!
>>51612442
>>51613942
>No, they were statements of his militant atheism.
"Marx saw religion as a form of protest by the working classes against their poor economic conditions and their alienation." and called it the "opium of the people". Nowhere did he say - kill all religious people! You nutjob.
Not defending communism.
>>51613942
>Turning off the TV is an action just like switching channels is.
On a side note, I should start an atheist youtube channel. It is so fun debating this shit.
>>51613608
as other religions.
But still I think isis is an invention. Some people need terrorism not for religion but for other reasons.
>>51608974
> Who's a little shitskin degenerate?
>>51612721
So you want to tell that those two didnt cause the migration that germany has to endure?
>>51609273
Atheists can stay on there. Because it would fit. But I don't see how Chinese and Early History would fit. At best, it's a gross approximation
>>51610427
----> the point
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>>51612268
Are algerians really that bad?
>>51610966
Wow, imagine not wanting your beliefs criticized this badly.
>>51611305
Then I hope you're willing to blame people being killed in the name of religion on fundamentalism and not religion itself.
>>51609750
>What is the Cristero War.
>What is the Vendee Rebellion
>What is Hoxha
I'm guessing you've never done research on this before have you?
>>51615251
Also I'll leave this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Persecution_by_atheists
>>51608974
>Who enslaved and killed millions of Africans? Not muslims
funny story, next you'll say the Armenian genocide never happend.
>>51608974
>Who enslaved and killed millions of Africans? Not muslims
Muslims were the biggest slave merchants and still are today you cockroach scum
>>51608974
You confuse christian countries with "for christianity".
Many muslims can't get their hands around that one.
Just accept that Islam today generates radicals and if you recite Quran verses while doing it, it makes it an islamist deed.
>>51610044
You did say we were barbaric back then, read up your shit.
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