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>Finns are not Mongolian
>Finns are not Nordic
>Finns are not slavs
What are they? They look Asian to me..
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H U M A N

Finns are people, with feelings.
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>>51608845
I know. What race are they?
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>>51608936

>"What social construct are they?"
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>>51608936
A little of all of them.
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>>51608936
Finnish i guess
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Finns are finns, magical creatures.
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Come on it's 2015 and you guys are talking about races.
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>>51608533
>they look asian to me
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Western Finns = Nordic
Eastern Finns = Mongol
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>>51608533
is this bait? that girl is japanese slav mix
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>>51608936
The master race
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I know they came from Mongolia a long time ago, but why did they go to Finland?
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We are fucking Finns.... for heaven sake, we are our own brand. Stop mixing us with other, you aren't being very culturally sensitive by downplaying our uniqueness! Reported to UN for possibly wanting to exterminate us.
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>>51609611

Coming and going are just transferring from one point of the time-space continuum to another. What if the time-space continuum moved and Finns stayed in the same point?
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Why do people give a fuck about Finland all of a sudden? Now because all the refugees are there, it's a "cool" place to be now?
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>>51608533
>Finns are not Nordic
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>>51609611
Remember the Aryan whose chariot tramples the very axis of the world under its golden wheels? The Finns were chased into the northern swamps by the noble Aryans until they came to a bog where the chariots would not pursue them. And thus Finland was born, from an oversight by the fire-worshipping tall men who would not stoop so low as to scour every last pine grove for their wretched foe! HAIL INDRA! BLESSED BE HE WHO KNOWS THE PROPER RECEPTACLES FOR THE SACRED YAŠNA!
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i wish this shitty mongol meme would just die out
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>>51608533
Best neighbor tbqh
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>>51609695
spurdo and other memes
thank god for finland
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>>51609765

The Finnish word for slave(orja) comes from Aryan. Aryans were slaves of Finns and later on Turks and Mongols.
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>>51609808
Not sure if that's much of an accomplishment but thanks familia.
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>>51608533
I'm a Finnish as well
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>>51609892
I live not far from the Finnish border - I have been to Finland hundreds of times and I love Finland tbqh. Too bad it's getting more expensive to buy beer and cigarettes there now
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>>51610130
>fraternizing with non-Aryans

Pha! Even the Jamaican black man who only speaks English is better than the Finn who babbles in his unsightly language half the time - the Jamaican is purer before the Thunder God. Do you not see the necessity of eliminating all who do not speak our languages? They are like the fattened serpent Vrithra in its false glory before being slain by our lord Indra, breaker of enclosures and chariot-lord!
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>>51608936

Samoyeds
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>>51610130
>when a Norwegian says he loves your country
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>>51611387
Kilpisjärvi is the best area in FInland tbqh
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>>51609426
LET'S CHERR YPICK, KIDS!
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>>51611133
>>51609611
>>51609222
>>51608936
Is it really that hard to guess?
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>>51609784

I bet you do Genghis.

Finns, like it or not are significantly mongoloid. People mistake blonde hair and blue eyes for Nordic. It just isn't so.

Pic related, lower 2 lines.
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>>51611664
precisely
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>>51611664
This. All those slant eyed "mongol" looking pics of Finns are cherry picked.
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>>51611665

23andmes maps demote where your ancestors came form about 500 years ago.

Before that your people come form the Urals. Your language is uralic, as are you chinkie eyes. Deal with it.
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>>51608845
bullshit
finns arent humans
back to /r9k/ with you
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>>51611755
>t. Russian
also nice meme
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>>51611921

About 1/15 of Finnish ancestors came from the Urals. Meanwhile Russians are Ukrainian+Uralic+Turco-Mongolian)))) good mix bro
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>>51608533
They're distant relatives of Turks and Magyars.
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>>51612047
finns are actually well ugro-finnic
so huns, hungarians, estonians mordvians and you are closest relatives
i believe finns were actually mongolic like huns but mixed with swedes quite a bit maybe russians/slavs too
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Swedes enriched them culturally and genetically. Russians too.
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>>51608533
We're finns
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>>51611896
I had a Finnish girl in my class and she looked like a fat eurasian
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>>51608533
They're pure unmixed Corded-Ware people thanks to the snowy region and isolation of Finland.
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>>51612047
>>51612024

Denial....

>Scandinavian flag
>Pretend they are Nordic
>Denial mongol heritage

Its quite sad.

Also:

>Russia is the largest country in the world - yes we have many eccentricities, none deny what they are.
>Ukrainian isn't an ethnicity.
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Look, you big bullies. Finnic peoples have nothing to do with Asians, okay?
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This meme would be a lot more ebin if you used an actual picture of a finn and not a picture of a half-japanese half-polish woman.

>>51611921
It's funny because the only white russians are northern russians who are basically just russified finns.
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>>51612213
>25% neolithic farmer blood
>unmixed
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>>51611921
Would if I could my friend.
t. >>51611665
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>>51612124

There's a difference between language and genetics. Serbians for example are mostly Illyrian like Albanians but speak Slavic.


>>51612151

Finns have about 10% Swedish admixture. We do have tons of Scandinavian ancestry(mainly maternal but also some paternal) but it's from 5000 years ago when modern Swedes didn't exist.
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>>51612217
You are probably just memeing but since you are Russian come for a visit in Finland if you want to see what we are like. If you are expecting to see meme mongol people you will be disappointed.
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Finns are cool

Love how they pushed back Russia in the Winter war
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>>51612247

Russified Finns? You mean Uralics and Turkics/Turanids.

"White" Russians (Rus) would be the same as "White" Finns - those who descend form Swedes

So much denial Fingolian bro.
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>>51608533
Finns are basically Estonians that flew after the reindeer, over the Baltic sea. Proven historic fact.
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>>51608533
Slav is not a genetic cathegory of any sort, even Nordic is meme tier but slav is too much.
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>>51612327
ok, so why are there differences between the looks of various ugrofinnic peoples? Obviously Finns are a lot blonder, probably blonder than Estonians even. And definitely blonder than the Mongolic people from the Urals. It seems like a short period of time for genetics.
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>>51608533
>Finns are not Mongolian
kek'd hard fampai
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>>51612333

I have been, its is a beautiful country with many blonde Baltid and Urlaid types, just like Russia.

All I'm saying is there is nothing pure, nordic, or "white" about Finns (Eastern in particular).

FWIW I'm not "Nordic" either, but I don't deny it.
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Whatever they are they are not white.

Those facial features don't lie desu
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>>51612490
i heard a theory that italian women have big breasts because romans brought various big chested slaves from the north to breastfeed their babies
and fugg :-DDD
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>>51612217
>>51612402
>Russia
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>>51608845

THE FEELINGS WERE BEATEN OUT OF THEM

LITTLE
CARDBOARD
BOXES
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>>51608845
Exactly.

>>51608936
Why must you dehumanise us? Do we not bleed black like you?
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>>51612306
Not all of them of course, but i don't care for Fenno-Swedes or Samis. Yamnaya were mostly hunter-gatherers who kept slaves.
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>>51612548
I know that, we Finns are quite unique genetics wise and I'm glad it's that way. But we are not slant eyed mongols for the most part.
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>>51612402
>Turkics/Turanids
lel stop projecting your steppe rapegenes on other people ivan

>descend form Swedes
All rurik and his warband did was enslave and rule over the local slavic and finnic tribes. You're as swedish as the serbian guy posting in this thread.
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>>51612598
>Lithuanians are the whitest

You learn something new everyday.
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>>51612508

Because Finno-Ugric people have been mixing for thousands of years. The original ones were probably most similar to Udmurts but only a part of Finnish DNA comes from them.
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>>51612748

Stop denying your non-nordic herritage and i'll stop pointing it out.

Never said I was Rus.
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>>51611665
hello my Scandinavian brother

>muh german heritage

special mention to all my chinese and african and southern american brethren
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>>51608845

Why are Finns so cute?
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>>51612831

Fucking coon. Day of the rope is coming.
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>>51612647
>Maltese


Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
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>>51612935
DARE you enter the SPECULATIVE REALM?
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>>51612831
a fellow jew? Welcome to one of the chosen
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According to the US court system, they are white

http://www.historymuseumeot.com/mfahs/htm/part8_0026.htm
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>>51613174

Just a Jewish plot to undermine the white race by mixing it with Finns.
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>>51612827
Finns are nordics and russia isn't. That's a fact.
You're confusing nordic with scandinavian again like the slav mongoloid that you are.
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>>51613109
*rubs hands vigorously*

I say, it sure feels good to be a master race jew.
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>>51613263

Nordic Finns.. hahhahhahahahahahaha

Maybe some, but not ethnic Finns that's for sure.

You guys are hilarious. Estonians don't pretend they are Nordic... you guys are in deep denial.
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>>51613361
Well...
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half finnish guy I know tells me, weird place, weird faces
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>>51613109
I've wanted to do this thing but I'm concerned I'll find out I'm like 2 percent Jewish and then if there's another Holocaust since that's recorded somewhere I'll be targeted
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>>51609680
>What are Estonians?
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>>51613486

Estonians are adopted Latvians. We don't have the heart to tell them it.
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We are Mongols
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>>51613361
You do realise nordic has nothing but political/cultural meaning, it's not linguistic or genetically.
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>>51608533
>>51608533
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r83ThBaWUE
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They are native americans from the Mississippi River Basin.

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1693788
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>>51613486
Well after all finns are only one tribe in what consists of modern Finland, there are savonians, tavastians, etc. Estonians are finnic tribe that settled south instead, probably arrived earlier too.
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>>51613692

Savonians are the product of inbreeding in the last 1000 years. They used to be normal Karelians but then they mixed with their sisters.
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>>51613421
Doubt it bru, take it, they just updated the site and added a bunch of new stuff, i'm discovering it all right now

pic related (they're right)
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>>51612955
I think the guy who compiled that confused the Mal'ta boy genome, a 24,000 years old remains found in Siberia as the remains of a Maltese person. All the others ones are all from regions that had plenty of Yamna/Corded-Ware influence.
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I just woke up to a terrible nightmare. I was lying in my ger and I saw a sight that there was a terrible dzud coming this winter. I have to warn the Khan and tell him that we need to go south.
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>>51608845
>Finnar
>feelings
Haha, good one.
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>>51613416

Hair and eye colour mean nothing. Phenotype does not equal phenotype, and your phenotype is part mongoloid.

>>51613578
You realize that Nordic is a well defined anthropological phenotype, of which finns do not belong.

See: >>51611755
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>>51614227

Correction: Phenotype does not equal Genotype and Genotype is part Mongolian
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>>51613421
Also, ashkenazi is unique on 23andme, since all it takes for them to say you're "0.1%" ashkenazi is: is this person related to other people who tick off the "i am ashkenazi"? yes? they are ashkenazi
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>>51614227
>You realize that Nordic is a well defined anthropological phenotype, of which finns do not belong.

Actually that chart is all wrong and those morphs are made by a German amateur with no anthropological degree.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Human_Phenotypes

To put it simply: that entire picture is pseudo-science

What anthropologists define as "Nordid phenotype" is completely different from Nordic people.

Nordid is a coined term for an specific cranial metric. You can find Nordid phenotype in Finland, Russia, hell even Bulgaria.

Pic related is Nordid Finn of East Nordid variety. Thing is, East Nordid phenotype is not from Scandinavia, the oldest East Nordid skull on earth is from the Steppe.
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>>51614269
well, here's the "genotype" >>51612598
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>>51614269
Why do so many Russians here know tons of science?
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>>51613786
Where is this on the site?

I can't see it.
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>>51614403

Exactly. This is why Autosomnal testing does not really work. It uses whatever peoples stated ethnicity are, and there is no way to even know if their statement is accurate.

You build a million person database with inaccurate data and you get skewed results.

>>51614269

Russia bro is 100% right

Phenotype = appearance. Some Finns are clearly Baltid and Uralid phenotypes and that is non-Nordic

Genotype = Genetics, and most Finns are firmly Finno-Urgic which is a Genotype that is non-European in origin (though has been in Europe for a very long time). No one would consider pure Finno Urgrics "white".

What you see is the admixture of Nordic elements which bring the blond hair and light eyes, and longer face.
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>>51614269

I'd prefer paleolithic East Asian plus Siberian over Mongolian because it's actually accurate. Anyway, Russians have actual Mongolian admixture from Turkic tribes who actually have a recent origin in Mongolia.
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>>51614539

Yes, it shows genetic distance for Baltids, and Baltids are significantly Mongoloid in Genetic origin.
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>>51614724

>Finns are firmly Finno-Urgic

That's just not true. Finns are genotypically part Finno-Ugric. Finnish maternal heritage is basically Corded Ware. Corded Ware were a mixture of Indo-European invaders from Russia and contemporary Central Europeans, who were a mixture of native Europeans and Anatolian Neolithic Farmers.
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>>51611665
>>51612831
>>51613109
c-can I join the ubermensch club?
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>>51614767

That would be more accurate, but most people don't understand what that means, and Mongolian annoys Finns more.
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>>51615087

Yes part. But firmly part. You can't deny that Finns are Finno Urgic, which is what makes you significantly different than your Nordic neighbors
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>>51615088
Good enough m8.

>oceana

W-wait, you're an aboriginal?
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>>51608936
The broad in the OP is Neanderthal
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>>51614724
But Finns are white. There is some some Sami admixture here and there but then again, so do Scandinavians.

>>51615021
There is no genetic proof Baltids are the result of Asian influence. But there is scientific proof the Baltid phenotype is the result of borealization AKA adaptation to cold environments.
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I lived in Oulu for 6 months

The Finns are a total enigma but once you figure it out you never want to leave
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>>51608533
you could ask the same thing about us.
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>>51615420
>The Finns are a total enigma but once you figure it out you never want to leave
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>>51615313
there is a bug on chromosome 6 for those who get less than 0.1 of Oceanian..it happens with their latest chips; nah, I'm mainly local with some roots in what is now Western Ukraine, but used to be part of Moldavia. Oceanian admixture should be alien around here.
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>>51615198

I don't identify with a Finno-Ugric fraction just because they were the dominant ones. I identify with all my ancestors back to the stone age since all were necessary to make me.
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>>51615568
Well I'm from Alabama, and I don't know if you've heard the term Southern hospitality but Finland was just about the exact opposite and was a mystery for a while. But once you get used to it, it really is quite nice. In Alabama, I probably waste a lot of time being overly nice to people but in Finland people just act efficiently in the social regard. I don't really see what's fedora tipper about my statement.
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>>51615021
Wat, so you're saying we are mongols?
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>>51615916

You are, about as much as Swedes.
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>>51615874
Finland sounds so autistic.

Treating social encounters "efficiently as possible".

Lel
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>>51616100
Well here in the South you waste a lot of time on formalities that you just do because that's the way it is, not for any real reason, I felt like they didn't have stuff like that there as much
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>>51615916
>paying attention to the Moor-viking rape child
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>>51612598
>tfw was too autistic to ask a Lithuanian qt out
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>>51617262
>ask out
What is with this autistic anglo relationship culture
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>>51608533

They have some of the highest admix tures of hunter-gatherer dna in europe, right after lithuania.
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>>51614496
>from the Steppe

Scythians confirmed for white?
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>>51617553

Mordvins have mostly Scythian heritage although their language is related to ours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57lWg1-Iam8
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>>51617553
By the time Scythians were roaming the steppe, those skulls were already buried in there and Yamnaya and Corded culture had already developed into localized Germanic, Slavic and Uralic cultures.
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>>51613560
FATHER?
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>>51614671
Click on reports at the home page, it looks like this
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Are fins friendly to asian people?

If you saw an asian person what would you do them?
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>>51622015
Ask them if they like anime.
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>>51621867
also fuck yes, based genes
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