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Do we know the gunmen's objectives yet?
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Well the objective was to kill people. The motive might have just been a terrorist attack, or one of the shooters freaked the fuck out after a party
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>>51588145
Their objective was to make you ask what their objective was.
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>>51588145
Some sources state that one of the shooters had an argument at the party(he shot up). Left and came back top shoot people.
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He targeted disabled people. unfortunately, he was in the right country for it. :^)
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>>51588215
Shit. I totally fell for it. The terrorists have won.
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>>51588238

Nigger detected
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>>51588145
I want to eat that cop's ass
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>>51588145
crashing this plane
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>>51590158
I don't know. A little too much fat for me.
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He killed his work colleagues forr pissing him off
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The amount of shootings in the USA is getting fucking unbelievable, I mean honestly what the hell is going on?
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>>51588145
>>51588145
To be the fastest rootinest tootinest gunho in the wild wild west.

at least thats my motive
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>>51590158
Because it's full of poo
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>>51588145
>Do we know the gunmen's objectives yet?
they were muslim
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>>51592386
We're becoming more like Europe with Muslim terrorists killing people by the 100's every day
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>>51592588
>Muslim terrorists killing people by the 100's every day

Is that what Fox News tells you?
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>>51592609
Nope, it's what your news tells us.

You guys regularly have mass shootings greater than the largest mass shooting in U.S. history. It's utterly ridiculous how fast Euromuslims can kill one another
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>>51592692
We don't regularly have mass shootings what the fuck are you on about.

The Madrid bombing had over 100 people dead but that was a decade ago.

More people died in shootings in the past year in the US than terror related attacks in Europe in the past 20.
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>>51592609
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>>51592778
What has that got to do with anything?

Go to bed.
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>>51592609
>Be Europoor
>Go outside
>Get raped
>Go to a theater
>Get shot
>Go to an island
>Get shot
>Go to watch soccer
>Get blown up
>Walk down the street
>Get beheaded
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>>51592790
t. mohammad

>oh it doesn't mean anything shoo shoo
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>>51592812
Thanks for your useful contribution to this discussion.
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>>51592790
I think he's pointing out that Islam is evil.

I don't know though, I may have got the wrong end of the stick.
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>>51592609
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I hate American /int/, /pol/ and /sp/ posters
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>>51592829
>>51592858
Keep going m8
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>nutjobs shooting random people
>terrorist attacks
>black and Mexican gangs
>Islamic gang-rapists
>chavs
>Syrian hordes
>trigger-happy police
>Stacy won't come to Croatia because Eastern Europe is dangerous
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>>51592749
>Brevik
>Charlie Hebob
>Bataclan
>Winnaden
>Kuahajoki
>Gothenborg shooting
>Malmö shootings
LITERALLY ONE EVERY TWO MONTHS IN EUROSHOOTLAND
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>>51592867
Brazil has no safe spaces
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>>51592939
>>Gothenborg shooting
>>Malmö shootings
the what
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was an autist who exercised his 2nd amendment rights after being bantered too hard at a party
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>>51592947
At least I can be sure that when I'm in a hotel room, work office or class I won't die to a neckbeard who got mad over losing an argument
desu
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>>51593035
But this was a terrorist shooting by muslims you fucking idiot.
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>Over the decade and a half studied, the researchers found 23 incidents of mass shootings in the other 10 countries, resulting in 400 dead and 231 wounded. In the United States over the same period, there were 133 incidents that left 487 dead and 505 wounded.
>It only takes 23 shootings for Euros to kill as many people as Americans do in 130
>European shootings happen less often, but when they happen they're utter massacres
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ken-shepherd/2015/12/01/matthews-mass-shootings-only-happen-us-when-reminded-paris-said-was#sthash.ggm25Mxd.dpu
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>>51592609
It's not that much off when you consider Boko Haram and Al-Qaeda's activities in the third world you know... oh and a little organization called ISIS, remember that one?
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>>51593060
most us mass shootings are gang wars

which is why regular innocent people deserve guns to have a chance
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>>51593055
See >>51592939
Compare the US with Mexico.
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So... are you going to start a "ban muslims" movement??

>>51592471
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>>51592939
This chart is pretty retarded though, you have way more than 133 shootings in your history.
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>>51593097
We'll do what we did to Japanese-Americans in WWII.
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>>51593012
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN0QE09F20150809?irpc=932
>The bomb and grenade attacks – in six months already near the total level of 2014 - came the same year as a mass shooting in the nearby city of Gothenburg. Two masked men opened fire in a bar, killing two and wounding at least 10 people.
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>be american
>get shot
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>>51588145
They wanted to destroy Christmas.
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>>51593121
>currently has worse mass shootings per capita
>b-but what about those that happened 20 years ago?
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>>51588238
Yes, this devout Muslim person went home to grab full gear, firearms, and somehow convinced a friend who had nothing to do with the argument to shoot up a bunch of disabled people attending a CHRISTMAS party.

Makes perfect sense
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>>51593136
It'd be even easier with a socialist democrat in office since FDR had no qualms with it
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>be american
>get shot
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>>51593157
>Grenade attacks
How in the fuck? Is Malmö a literal warzone?
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>>51593179
>be Russian
>get addicted to heroin/ vodka because the country is boring as fuck and the women look like shit
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>>51588145

>That fucking gun

Is that a Mini-14? Is California so California that they equip their officers with rifles that are not classified as assault rifles, even though it would probably be better (from training, quality, cost, practicality and commonality perspectives) to just equip them with AR pattern rifles?
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>>51593035
>Brazil
Any hope of you getting your kidney back anytime soon? They might have it at the favela near you
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>>51593264
>Be New Zealander
>sheep cheats on you with your neighbor
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>>51593198
holy fuck ISIS is now targeting Santa Claus? too fucking far
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>>51593302
They use Ruegers 10/22's, I shit you not.
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>>51593157
You don't think there's a far step between 2 and 14? And in the grenade case, non vs 14?

A shooting implies a mass murder spree, and for that you have to kill at least 3 people by the FBI definition.
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>>51593278
>be american
>get bantered
>try to retaliate
>fail miserably
>get shot
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>>51593358
Trump said himself he would save Christmas
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>>51593313
>he thinks organ kidnapping theft is a thing here
Truly an example of ignorance, keep proving your stereotypes true lad.
My point still stands by the way.
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>>51593275
Criminal yugo scum buy hand grenades from their home countries that they then chuck at each other. The joys of open borders in Europe.
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>>51593278
>Be this guy
>Be butthurt about the most overused bait on /int/
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>>51593201
good lord you are retarded
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>>51593278
Russian women look better than fake tanned plastic dolls from burgerland
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>>51593453
Did you really expect anything better from Americans though?
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>>51592812
>>51593278
>>51593341
>being this buttmad
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>>51593481
no but they still somehow manage to disappoint every time
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>>51593453
>Can't read basic statistics
>No, YOURE the retard
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>this triggers the americans
http://killedbypolice.net/
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>>51593525
dumb ameriposter
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>>51593496
>Aussie mad because they got out bantered
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>>51593524
It clearly shows that the U.S. has 0.15 fatalities to Finlands 0.34 in recent years. There's no reason for it to include shootings that happened over 20 years ago. In fact, it would probably make European countries look a lot worse.
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>>51593432
>Brazil
>if not for organ theft, any of the other myriad of shithole qualities that make up Brazil
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Americans failing to banter is the saddest, yet most common thing on /int/. How many mass shootings happened this year in western europe? Paris attacks and charlie hebdo. Burgerstan had at least three but i'm not sure
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>>51593552
>amerishoots
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>>51593400
3 people killed or wounded.
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>>51588145

I bet someone insulted islam at the christmas party
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>>51593413
Proofs?
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>>51593610
3 is barely any

3 people die in the us daily
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>>51592939
>133
>>51593552
>not 1091

>american statistics
:D
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>>51593413
">be american
>get bantered
>try to retaliate
>fail miserably
>get shot"
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>>51593374

That's not a 10/22 though..

>>51593400
>You don't think there's a far step between 2 and 14? And in the grenade case, non vs 14?

His point stands though: Shootings like this happen everywhere.. The actual amount of victims in these cases is a matter of many factors, not just the fact that someone decided to go on a spree. They could be unlucky, and have a weapon malfunction (Aurora).. They could be autists that plann things meticulously and literally murder dozens upon dozens of children trapped on an island (Utoya).. They could be near-mentally retarded and still pull of an uncanny kills-per-minute record and an impressive highschore (Port Arthur)... They could be Asian-tier and actually make a decent shot at the highscore with nothing more than a few 9mm handguns (Virginia Tech) or they could be failed-Asian tier with similar weaponry, in a similar setting and only manage to kill 2 people (Monash University). The the last one happened in 2002 in Australia by the way, well after Port Arthur and the effects that incident had on Australia gun laws.. Australian shitposters and politicians like to claim they've been free from massacres like Port Arthur because of their gun laws, but the reality is that if the Monash University shooter had the same skill/luck/training/juju Cho had, it might just as easily have been a new high score.

tl;dr: Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Also..
>Le nobody shoots in Europe meme
Negers pls. You all know that isn't true. We just don't die as frequently because we're smaller targets than the Yanks.
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>>51593672
>">be american
>>get bantered
>>try to retaliate
>>fail miserably
>>get shot"
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>Europoors get thoroughly blown the fuck out, no arguments.

>Proceed to respond with ad homenim
When are we going to ban Euros from this board already? We already have Aussies and Spics for banter. They just shit everything up.
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>>51593672
>failing at greentexting
Newfag confirmed. Fuck off
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The message is being covered up by the government like they tried to cover up the race. DON'T believe the lie about disgruntled work colleague, it makes 0 sense. They're trying not to spread a terrorist message because they think it means the terrorists won
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>>51593595
>eight. hundred. thousand

Give it time Hans, you'll catch up in time
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>>51593652
How else do you expect them to inflate the numbers with petty gang violence?
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>>51593667
Epic, I like it.
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>>51593759
they're still shootings you dip
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>>51593705
>When are we going to ban Euros from this board already?

This is the International section of a Japanese-owned Lao pattern knitting forum though Johnny... Maybe you just need to retreat to an American site if that bothers you.
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>>51593793
Never said they weren't, just not the "mass shootings" we think of.

Brazil and Mexico doesn't record that shit, just that they died. If they did we'd find it happens more often than we think.
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>>51593743
If it was a terrorist organisation, don't you think they'd tell the world it's their doing by now?
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>this triggers the burger
Also, can we agree Americans are, by far, the worst posters of /int/?
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>>51593755
Shit banter. Besides, we at one million already. If you want to banter do it right asshole
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America used to have workplace shootings all the time in the early 2000s. The disgruntled worker is going to make a comeback. There was a big thing about shootings at post offices at one point; you may remember the phrase "go postal". My dad actually got accosted by security at work around 2005 because he'd been reprimanded, and the brass thought he was going to blow away all the white shirts in the offices.
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>non americans will defend this
How keked can you get? Enjoy being the brown man's bitch until you die out. At least we can defend ourselves.
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>>51593858

>America
>Admitting they've suffered a terrorist attack on their own soil, AGAIN

I'm sure they will if it's actually what happened... But I'm also quite sure they'll hold off on that story untill they've exhausted all other options.
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>>51593866
only when it's being raided by poltards and stormblrs
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>>51593866
Yeah. I don't even know if they are actual retards or just very committed to looking stupid anymore
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>>51592935
Isn't the world great?
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>>51593866
It triggers me that there isn't something similar for Europe that shows it in a much more honest light

The agenda pushing is obvious

>Worst posters
that would be Canadians, who are just Americans lite so it makes sense
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>>51593866
>fatal mass shootings
>includes woundings and shootings where nobody died

fuck off
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>>51593921
Wow, rude.
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>>51593858
They've been encouraging lone wolf attacks. It doesn't necessarily have to be backed by a terrorist group to have been a terrorist attack.
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>>51593921
Because all the smart americans got shot.
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>>51593891
>At least we can defend ourselves.

Realistically you can't though.. Not really. If you're out in a theatre or cinema one night, odds are you won't be carrying a gun. If people then start firing (semi-) automatic rifles in the back of the venue, people will die. Lots of them... Perhaps the gunman are stopped a bit sooner by an armed citizen or security guard, but there are no guarantees. You might tilt the odds of survival in your favor, or you might have 3 bullets in your back before you even realise what's going on... And that's assuming you were even allowed to bring your gun into the venue.
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>>51593866
>>51593941
also

>includes gang shootings

hence why Chicago is ranked first.
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>>51593866
A very normal year in usa
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>>51593866
Michiganders are the most civilized people in the United States.
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>>51593976
But then why do niggers still exist?
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>>51593976
>smart americans
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Someone wanted to kill retarded person?
Must be from /pol/ screencap dis
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>>51594008
They were Muslims
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Murrica, why don't your shooters shoot muslims instead of people?
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>>51594048
Then they just join the army
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>>51594048
That would be racist you islamophobic shitlord
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>>51594048
give it time, year's not over yet
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>>51594048
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/03/us/mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/
Could've been France brah t bh f a m
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>>51593866

Was there disagreement?

>>51593939

>It triggers me that there isn't something similar for Europe that shows it in a much more honest light

What honesty? Shootings are more rare in western Europe, and if you look at the statistics, they demonstrate that.
>The agenda pushing is obvious
I agree with you on that, but those sorts of maps and stats are mostly made by Americans pushing their agendas in America.. Europe has little to do with it. Perhaps you should make those images yourself, and push them in America as well..

>>51593980

A gang shooting is still a shooting tbqh... Almost all of our high profile shootings are crime/gang related.. That doesn't mean they're not cause for concern.
>Yeah, there was another shooting in Amsterdam last night.. You know, the usual. Automatic gunfire in residential streets, burnt out BMWs, stray rounds in children's bedrooms...
>But it's ok though. It was just organised crime related
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>>51593866
Hey, bro, sorry the banter sometimes triggers you. But you guys aren't that intelligent when it comes to understanding how things work in America. I get it, you're all retarded. I mean, you guys don't even use Fahrenheit or foot measurement, how can I trust you to have an opinion that is capable of being taken seriously when it comes to America.
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>>51594163
>I mean, you guys don't even use Fahrenheit or foot measurement,
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>>51594163
stop posting you utter faggot
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>>51594184
I love le funn y bear meme. I love it when he says the funny things, please post more :DXXX
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>>51594081
>implying muslims are race
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>>51594155
I don't give a fuck if gangs shoot other gangs. It has nothing to do with mass shootings targetting random people.
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>>51594163
Oh man, people are actually going to believe you mean this anon.
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>>51593579
Well you included cases which are 7-8 years old for Finland some reason?
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>>51594155
Meh, it's all overblown anyway. It'll die down some days then start up the next.
Life will go on for 99.999% of people.
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>>51593941
>>51593980
It was made by a couple of pro-massive gun control ledditards, hence why it's a bit confusing and misleading
That being said though, when it comes to mass shootings, it doesn't imply death, just a shitload of people getting shot. And if someone made one for any Latin American cunt, it'd most likely include gang shootings as well.
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>>51594237

Only have this one to be honest.. But I'm always on the lookout for more gems.
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>>51593866
>literally nothing red within 100 miles of where I live

I'm ok with this.
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>>51594281
>I don't give a fuck if gangs shoot other gangs.
Not even if they shoot the wrong people, because they drive a similar car as their target? Or when their stray rounds perforate half a neighborhood block? Or when you're a guest at an establishment where such a shooting takes place?
>It has nothing to do with mass shootings targetting random people.
I agree, but it's not like bullets only kill the people they were meant to hit.. Surely a high frequency of shootings means something is wrong, even when they're gang bangers shooting each other?
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I wonder how well trained they were.
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>>51588145
>According to eye witnesses who were in the Inland Resource Center in Loma Linda, CA and attending the Christmas Party where the attacks took place, Muslim employees of the county had previously asked that Pork products not be served. When one of those Muslims arrived at the event and saw that, in addition to many other foods, Bacon and Pork Sausage was being served, he angrily confronted other party-goers and then stormed out of the event.

>Less than an hour later, he returned with two others in a pre-planned revenge attack and started shooting.
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>>51592386
Its normal. Stop thinking gun shooting is bad or rare
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>>51594502
The problem is not the tool, it is the operator. If we weren't such a bunch of idiots, then we would look further into ways to treat the mentally ill. To solve the inner city violence, we could promote education and encourage police to adopt a less "us v. them" attitude.
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>>51593866
Maine, Vermont, NewHampshire; 10 plus...fucking when? I'm from New England originally and never heard of anything like that and the news would have definately covered it.
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>>51593921
A bit late but its a combination of both. People smart enough to know you're expecting idiocy from Americans will fuck with you. Also, a lot of Americans use sarcasm in humor.
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