>Americans getting shot
How does it make you feel?
Makes me feel like popping a balloon for some reason.
Painful
Nothing surprising here
>tfw californian
At least I live in the good parts and will be out of here in two years
>>51578582
You're a big guy
>>51578527
It's just banter. I could handle it.
>>51578527
At this point it's just par for the course.
I'm a "take yer guns" liberal, so pretty mad
>>51578667
How can liberals be mad? This happened in California, the place with some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
What kind of sick son of a bitch shoots up a home for mentally challenged people. 3 sick sons of bitches no less.
>>51578527
Honestly? It makes me feel like I don't want to leave the house, but then again who the fuck would want to attack Minnesota? Nothing interesting here anyways even though I live in the capital.
>>51578725
Liberals from CA are now using the "it was probably AZ" meme
>>51578725
>>51578869
>muh liberulz
>>51578527
Not surprised at all.
This is becoming a daily occurance in burgerland
>>51578900
You're the one pushing your agenda before the bodies are even cold.
this shit is normal now so i really give no fucks
>>51578937
Which agenda is that, and where am I pushing it?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html
Jeez, americans have such short fuses.
>>51578527
Good enough to write a haiku about it.
Be american.
Go on my morning journey.
I have been shot dead.
>>51579015
If that makes you feel better about locking up old ladies for keeping their husband's war trophies, so be it.
>>51579015
I kek'd harder than I should have.
>>51578956
take dem ebul guns away.
>>51578527
Mehmet, it was ISIS. One of them was wearing a suicide vest.
>>51579052
>Immediately gets defensive of muh guns
>>51578527
makes me feel sorry for Americans, I have never seen a country of people in denial so hard they just refuse to fix a problem
'shootings aren't a problem to me because'
>I'm white
>shootings never happen where I live, so they obviously never will
>I own a rifle and can *unsheath* it and shoot down anyone trying to shoot me
>getting shot is the price of '''''''''''''freedom''''''''''''''
they will probably sort it out eventually and their ancestors will learn about the brainwashed culture america used to have, they were the least free citizens in the first world but believed they were the most free because guns = freedom
>>51579099
Where did I mention muh guns?
I don't own any.
>>51579099
>immediatelly gets defensive of muh gun control paradise
>>51579138
Your post implied it.
>>51579155
You inferred it, he didn't imply it.
>>51578626
This.
I can't wait to get out of this shit hole, just gonna come back here though.
>>51579015
That is not correct format.
Here:
Be American
My morning journey i now have began
I have been shot dead
But I thought guns were illegal in california?
At least snackbars aren't doing it.
>>51579148
I'm not super anti guns really.
It works in civilised countries like Switzerland.
But guys this never happens in texas!
Oh wait...
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/12/the-list-the-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-texas-history/
>>51578842
I wish I lived in one of the boring states
>>51578937
> AM I BEING DETAINED? DONT TREAD ON ME
dat projection
and the mental health problem continues to go unaddressed
but this latest thing in San Berdino was the work of a fairly organized group, or so I head on the radio home. Anyone know who is responsible yet?
>>51579226
>history
Texas didn't let you cary guns until recentily.
>>51579224
>>51579155
>>51579099
>Being this triggered over nothing
>>51579175
A logical inference. The poster he was replying to is American after all.
>>51579288
3 of the 4 on the list were after 1990.
You're saying in 1990 texas didn't let you carry guns???
>>51579119
>>51579119
Let's look at your shithole.
You don't have freedom of speech.
You ban airsoft, air rifles, and laser pointers.
You tax alcohol and tobacco to shit, you have retarded plain packaging laws.
You need a helmet to ride a fucking bike.
And you ban guns.
So yes, I have more freedom than you, and not just gun freedom. I'd take living in a more dangerous country than your authoritarian jail cell, any day. I hope to god we never become like you as long as I remain alive.
I feel sorry for you fucks. Enjoy your disgusting nanny state.
>>51579119
The problem in this case was Muslims and Edgelord Betas.
>>51579203
It was snackbars
>be american
>get shot
>be american
>go to primary school
>get shot
>be american
>go to high school
>get shot
>be american
>go to college
>get shot
>be american
>go to the cinema
>get shot
>be american
>get pulled over by police
>get shot
>be american
>go to the mall
>get shot
>be american
>go to USMC recruiting office
>get shot
>be american
>go to the store
>get shot
>be american
>go to a park
>get shot
>be american
>be retarded
>get shot
>be american
>get shot
It was an organized group attack with military equipment, so probably isis.
>>51578916
>Not purging the weak
>>51579288
And funnily enough the most recent one happened on a fucking military base, but our soldiers aren't allowed to carry weapons on base unless they are MP.
>>51579336
>This is what Americans actually believe about the outside world
>>51579314
So does high HDI correlate to high damage control after getting #btfo over a faulty assumption?
>>51579358
wouldn't be surprised, but why a mental health center?
>>51579389
Just Australia I think.
>>51579389
Prove me wrong you retard. All of that shit is banned in Australia.
Guaranteed I have more negative liberties than your country in my state.
what's the best obscure country that I can fuck off to and leave this festering joke of a nation
>>51579335
Yes. We passed it in June.
>>51579394
By "muh guns" I didn't mean directly "your guns".
More in "muh gun laws".
Lrn2 chanspeak Billy Bob
>>51579402
>Muslims oppose giving people mental health
Pottery really
>>51579394
>American
>Not obsessed with muh guns
Yeah, sure mate.
>>51579431
Europeans aren't so hung up on negative liberties, m8. In fact, lots of them like their positive ones (or "privileges" in case the former term triggers you)
>post yfw you realised the 14 people who survived San Retardino shooting might as well kill themselves because of the huge medical bills they'll receive
>>51579446
It conflicts directly with Islam.
>>51579445
But I'm talking about Britain's gun laws.
>>51579458
Not obsessed with guns, don't own any guns, haven't fired one in years.
>>51579431
Guns aren't banned in Australia.
>>51579491
I'm obsessed with guns for you anon.
>>51579336
>government enforced curfews for 80% of your cities
>can't drink under 21
>can't online gamble or go to a casino except specific designated areas
>can't pay for sex
Australia has some stupid laws sure, those laws are aimed at lowering public health expenditure on morons, your laws are specifically restricting freedoms for no logical reason
>>51579459
And positive "liberty" is not a freedom. Read Locke and Mill.
>>51579500
Draconian restrictions. You ban a shitload of gun types. They might as well be.
>>51579514
>government enforced curfews for 80% of your cities
u wot m8
>can't drink under 21
>can't online gamble or go to a casino except specific designated areas
>can't pay for sex
got me there senpai
>>51579500
They aren't banned here either, but unless you're a friend of someone in the federal police it's so hard (read impossible) to get a permit it might as well be banned.
>>51579500
true, but you know what should be? Lebs and Melbourners.
>>51579535
Reread the bit in parentheses.
Furthermore, liberalism was pretty based, but it wasn't the end-all-be-all of ideology. It has flaws like any other.
>>51579514
Most are just meme laws that people forget exist once they turn 60 and are in congress.
>>51579514
government curfews
Seldom enforced.
>can't drink until 21
I'll give you this. But booze is far cheaper here, plus my state has legal weed and ai can smoke indoors.
Get bent.
>can't gamble
False as fuck. Casinos exist in the great majority of states.
>muh public health
The most cancerous shit ever. Enjoy have everything remotely dangerous banned and restricted out the ass.
This is why I'm glad with having everyone pay for their own healthcosts.
>>51579536
Australia made a hundred threads about >americurfews
It's technically true.
>>51579535
>Draconian
I'd say reasonable.
>>51579514
>>51579590
And unlike kuckstralia, the laws you mentioned are on a state basis, not federal save for the 21 drinking age.
>>51579596
I don't see what's wrong with keeping children off the streets in dangerous hours.
And by children I mean any minor less than 18 years old.
>man I love being pro gun!!! people get shot daily and killed but I have my own gun which I'm never gonna use so what does it matter?? #buildwall 2016
fucking lards
>>51579609
No.
Switzerland has reaosnable laws.
Your laws are fucking draconian and bat shit insane.
>>51579460
croatia dropping the banter
>>51578667
The best part is they have reported the shooters were using long guns. It's now very likely that the guns were not Cali compliant and therefore all gun control morons will shoot themselves in the foot if they bring this one up.
Did they reveal the race of the shooters yet?
>>51579639
So a 17 year old shouldn't be allowed on the streets past 10 pm?
Sorry but this isn't Favelaland.
(I agree in principle though.)
>>51579643
People die daily to alcohol and drunk driving so we can enjoy alcohol you fucking idiot.
Every freedom we enjoy comes with costs to society, sometomes that cost is human lives.
>>51579500
All the good ones are
>>51579672
>California
Take a wild guess
>>51579643
what does the wall have to do with gun law ?
>>51579651
Says the guy whose country has daily mass shootings.
>>51579651
How about Japan?
>>51579672
That would be racist you pig.
>>51579536
>>51579573
>>51579590
>>51579622
>w-were free if we just hope the police don't enforce the law
>>51579622
even the drinking age isnt technically federal. But theres a good reason for the age anyway
>>51579712
If that's the cost for greater liberties, I'll take it any day.
At the end of the day I'd rather live in a more dangerous country with much greater freedom than vice versa. Given the choice between North Korea and Somalia, I'd always choose the latter.
>>51579672
One dark skinned other two not really, well organized, worked as a team, lots of equipment, attacked some sort of event (fundraiser?) held at a disability hospital
>>51579119
The interesting bit is this happened in one of the most strict states in the country as far as gun control is concerned. I'd bet good money the "long guns" they've been reported to have are illegal in Cali. Clearly banning them did not work... again.
what I don't understand is how they escaped. how could they have possibly escaped if they were surrounded by SWAT, and they're still missing? not to mention the shooters had body armor and everything
it's extremely bizarre
>>51579778
so, it was robbery, it was for money ?
>>51579778
I don't know how they got such a low kill count when their opposition were actual unarmed retards
>>51579677
>So a 17 year old shouldn't be allowed on the streets past 10 pm?
Why should kids in high school age be allowed on the streets past 10? What business do they have there?
>I should give up my guns because muslims shot up some place in a state with extremely strict gun laws, stricter than fucking Canada
Go fuck yourself. I'm going to go out and buy more guns tomorrow. I will give up my life defending my rights if necessary. Live free or die.
.
>>51579687
>it's okay that people die as long as I get enjoyment!
>>51579711
pro gun and voting for trump seems to go hand in hand more often than not
nothing new from these right wing lards on /int/ and /pol/
oh and dont get me wrong I'm right wing too, but Trump is a fucking meme
>>51579836
And why not?
That should be up to the parents and not the state.
>>51578991
3 shooters isn't just disgruntled something else was going on.
>>51579770
Yeah, but America always ranks shit in freedom indexes anyway.
>>51579843
>muslims are responsible for that shootout in California
Also remember that those who robbed that bank in North Hollywood, Phillips and Mataseranu, were muslims.
2bh with you.
Seriously.
Not joking.
Not edge posting.
Absolutely 100% honest.
Completely apathetic.
>>51579853
>it's okay that people die as long as I get enjoyment!
Yes you fucking idiot.
We do that with alcohol and tobacco ALL THE FUCKING TIME. We view the tens of thousands of alcohol deaths, all the drunk driving deaths being worth it so we can get drunk at bars.
Just like with alcohol, I view the same regarding mass shootings and guns.
>b-but alcohol isn't designed to kill
You are missing the point, idiot.
>>51579535
You're moving the goalposts Mr. Cheeseburger.
>>51579897
They didn't kill anybody, mudshit.
>>51579886
Only because those indexes count shit like "freedom from discrimination" or "freedom from violence" as liberties when they are really capacities.
>>51579459
>Europeans
Are you meaning to imply Australia is Europe?
>>51579960
>Spray and pray
It doesn't even work in CSGO mate.
>>51579952
Prove it, chink.
>>51578527
Bad things happen sometimes. And sometimes they don't.
What was their ethnicity?
>>51580019
>chink
>prove it
Are you 12?
>>51579925
I bet you don't even get enjoyment out of guns you lard.
You just keep one in case you get robbed even though you're a fucking pathetic and irrelevant fatass stuffing your face with hamburgers while being pro gun and saying you get "enjoyment" out of it on a taiwanese washing board.
I know I'm projecting, but I wouldn't be surprised one bit at all if I hit a nerve. Fucking classic.
>>51580052
Yes
>>51579925
we put restrictions on alcohol and it's forbidden to drink and drive, if a policeman arrest you behind your steeringwheel and you're drunk you get a huge fine and go to jail.
I'm pro gun because I'm pro liberties but guns should obviously be more controlled at every step of buying/owning them.
But I like how you think
>>51578527
The better question is why do non-Americans care?
>>51578527
I'll take the bantz but when the next attack ends up hitting Berlin or some shit will you?
this is like France all over again the more of these threads you make the more butthurt you and your countrymen will be when the same shit happens to you
just a fair warning that if something happens in Germany expect 10x what you give /int/ will literally be flooded with
>be kraut
>get shot
threads and shit for weeks
Oh btw remember that Germany is the country most open to Syrian immigrants at the moment and even based Merkel tossed away some flag waving
don't get so cocky
>french faggots get shot
>everyone on /int/ cries
>americans get shot
>xD cant make this up
>>51580053
seems like someone hit your nerve
>>51580127
#FrenchLivesMatter
>>51580118
You're right. The Internet and globalization have failed. Shut er down boys! We're shutting the borders!
>>51580109
non drunk people die in car wrecks too
>>51580127
sshhh babby just take it, it's called karma just sit back and laugh when [insert Euroshit] cried about their primeminster opening the front door with a red carpet to more potential hidden ISIS in refugees
>>51580174
#bantz
>>51580053
>You just keep one in case you get robbed
>Europeans think this is unreasonable.
How fucking kucked can you get?
>>51579836
Tyrone needs to sell drugs for nee rims since he dropped out at 15.
>>51580127
How can you feel sorry for a society that ensures mass shootings are a regular occurrence?
>>51580109
Guess what?
We put restrictions on guns too!
Felons can't own guns in the US, murdering somebody with guns is illegal, most states it's illegal to carry a gun in public without a license.
In regards to drunk driving, we punish the act, not the methods. We don't install breathalyzers in all cars to make sure you don't drive drunk, we don't ban alcohol either.
Treating guns like alcohol would mean looser laws, not stricter.
>>51580127
In France you don't hear about some social outcast shooting up a school or some spic killing people in some shithole in Mexico v2, I mean California every other day.
It's the same thing as hearing about a car bomb going off in Iraq or whatever. You do nott get surprised because it happens often.
>>51580182
American gun crime has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any other country, nor do American gun laws. This event doesn't affect any other country in any way at all.
>>51579979
Eurovision made it official
>>51580213
*new
>>51580228
In Europe, you here about a Muslim throwing grenades in Malmo and beheading people every otherday
>>51580230
It's cute that you think that. Most of the guns used in violent crime in Canada and Mexico were obtained in burgerland.
>>51580228
This shooting was done by muslim twrrorists. Not a spastic kid, idiot.
>>51580218
Are you implying Euros ensure anything is done when stuff happens?
>>51580278
Going to need legitimate citation on that clearly ludicrous claim.
>>51580210
I'm not from a shithole like US where you get robbed.
I would have a gun for protection, but I'm not pro gun because it ends up getting retarded hicks and spics to shoot people.
>>51580218
What could be done to ensure mass shootings stop?
Even if they go full nazi and confiscate every gun they can find there'd still be millions of guns out there relatively easily attainable to criminals.
>>51580278
>mexico
False.
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-myth
Most cartel guns come from central and south america.
>>51579195
Only for common folk. Celebs, LEO, and gangbangers are exempt.
>>51579234
San Bernandino is as boring as it gets. LA in general is a no-culture non-city, so I'm kinda glad we are finally getting some terrorism to put us back on the map. NYC has been stealing the limelight far too long.
>>51580224
How do you explain 97% of all people are against guns in the US then? Are 97% of people stupid?
>>51580318
Your country is top 10 in guns per capita.
>>51580336
Where the fuck did you pull that "statistic" from?
>>51580336
>97% are against guns
What the fuck?
>>51580336
you mean 97% of all non americans? who cares, its not their country they dont get a say
>>51580336
That statistic is made up and not even remotely close to true.
For you lefties/pro gun control fellows, is it okay if I own a 1300's replica handgonne, am I allowed to use it for self defense? It's less than what the founding fathers had.
>>51580309
Look up ATF gun walking scandal. Estimates place 70% of guns seized from cartels originated in the us.
Every shooting in Toronto for as long as I can remember has involved a handgun obtained south of the border.
>>51580361
French leftist media.
>>51580361
>>51580372
>>51580391
I'm just saying everyone is against you, outside the US and inside it too.
>>51580413
Still waiting on citation.
>>51580423
And I'm just saying that number is made up
>>51578527
Bretty good desu. People who go outside are normies, and we're full anyway
>>51580423
> outside the US
dont care what they think. not their country and they clearly dont understand the situation
> and inside it too
not even close
>>51580423
> inside it too
But you're objectively and mathematically wrong you dumb fucking nigger.
There is literally nothing wrong with 21 year old drinking age.
The brain isn't fully developed until 25 anyway.
>>51580357
Just because some insane retard decided to shoot some kids on an island four years ago does not mean you hear about shooting daily here like in the US.
>>51580413
>ATF gun walking scandal
>blaming that on liberal gun laws
That was a deliberate action by the ATF to provide justification for ATF Demand Letter #3.
>>51580218
This happened in a state with stricter gun laws than Canada. Fuck off libtard.
>>51580438
Shove it up your ass professor. I read it in the paper, I'm not digging through newspaper archives to prove a point to a dipshit on the Internet.
>>51580423
Kill yourself.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
>>51580507
>stricter gun laws than Canada
i really dont think thats true
>Not being allowed to drink when you are legally considered an adult
If you aren't allowed to drink at 18 you aren't free
>>51580484
Que tiene que ver que el cerebro no este del todo desarrollado con tomar alcohol? Pelotudo de mierda.
>>51580498
Not what I said you fucking cunt piece of shit. Fact is that there are lots of guns in Norway despite you being an anti-gun autist.
>>51578667
Bleedin' heart puspus. Go have a cry!
>>51580498
Just a matter of time, thought.
It's not fun being a an unarmed vekter searching for bombs and weapons in people's purses and backpacks because of terrorist threats.
>>51580511
That's because you made it up and have no ability to support your assertions.
LOS ANGELES
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>>51580534
They stricter than ours in some ways. We don't have a mag cap on .22's like California does, for example.
>>51580467
>dont care what they think. not their country and they clearly dont understand the situation
Guns aren't American.
We do have gun and gun laws in other countries too. I don't understand what's so different? Americans are immune to certain ammos or something ? What is so special?
>not even close
the majority is against guns, that's for sure.
>>51580578
It wasn't in Los Angeles. It wasn't even in Los Angeles County.
>>51580552
And? I rarely hear about people getting shot here.
>>51580484
>>51580545
the drinking age has more to do with preventing dumbass teens who just got their license from dying or killing others in a drunken car crash because they got access to alcohol on the same day as their license
>>51580525
you need to chill, insecure baby. I am pro guns, I just made a statement that every fucking person i come across is against guns.
>>51580585
Go fuck yourself you illiterate Algerian goat fucker.
see
>>51580525
>>51580585
No, it's not for sure, it's actually the complete opposite and you don't know what you're talking about.
BUT WHAT IF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET HAD GUNS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES
>>51580614
> still actively avoiding the point
LA can into terrorism! FUCK NYC, we terrorism now!
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>>51580585
There are A LOT of guns here. you could not possibly get rid of all or even most of them. If you make them illegal there will be a full scale revolution
>the majority is against guns, that's for sure.
not in this country
>>51580636
>American.
Jesus fuck i thought this was going to be about the planned parenthood guy again
Im actually very sad that this has to happen so much.
>>51580635
You got proven wrong by literally decades of statistics. It's time for you to shut up.
>>51580218
Are you talking about America or Europe?
>>51580688
And it's time for you to see a psychiatrist for your anger issues.
>>51580218
How can one feel sorry for a continent that started two World Wars?
>>51580604
LA metropolitan region. Look, I'm just sick of NYC getting all the attention. LA has been ignored too long, and Habib is helping us change that.
Thanks America. This is why we can't have good gun laws. You scare pussy ass liberals up here into thinking "gunz r evil" and we can never do anything to make our gun laws better because any mention of loosening them gets the same "WHY DON'T YOU MOVE TO AMERICA IF YOU LOVE GUNS SO MUCH, YOU FUCKING WANNABE AMERICAN" reaction from the fucking idiot leftist masses who base their opinions on emotion/ignorance
>>51580745
> get proven wrong by 50+ years of data
> totally avoids addressing this fact
That's you. You made a claim that took less that 10 seconds to prove wrong and you aren't even man enough to admit you lied.
>>51580797
That's something I do actually apologize for.
If we had anything like the police resources they have in burgerland, so many people on Utoya would be alive today.
>>51579590
wait until you learn how insurance works
>>51578527
Makes me wanna go to Russia. I actually wanted to go to Germany before all the Muslims came, but I think I'll wait until this all calms down a bit.
America has so many mass shooting that they should have their own board
/pol/ become a spam shithole everytime
>>51580839
But isn't it better that they died?
>>51580907
Russia has more mudslimes than Germany
>>51578916
You know burgers are from Germany? As in Hamburg-er?
>>51580912
/pol/ is a shithole 100% of the time. In some ways it's even worse than the old /new/ board it replaces.
You guys are mean. This was a Muslamic terrorist attack and you're bullying me.
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>>51580945
Wow!
This changes everything!
>>51578768
They said it's probably international terrorists not typical American spree shooting.
>>51580923
We don't actually have freedom of speech in my country anymore (partly because of that episode) so I can't answer that question. It may be ruled "hateful"
>>51580999
I feel sorry for you on some level. Thought crime is retarded.
>>51580923
>>51580999
3edgy5me
>>51580999
Well, I just mean that Breivik targeted them because they were future kuckolds. In a twisted way he may have saved lives from the influence they would have had.
Do you think this was motivated by Islam?
>>51578768
A home for Chromosome Warriors that serves 30K patients, and these fags only scored a 14
LA RELEVANT NOW
>>51581048
Killing kids is never justified, no matter their political views.
>>51581063
Doubt it.
>>51580928
Yeah maybe so, but are they Islamic refugees? Because I feel the refugees are the ones who tend to get more violent because of their false sense of entitlement and whatnot. Whereas in Russia, if they're citizens and not refugees, they wouldn't act that way.
>>51579770
So freedom = risk of getting shot?
>muh grandpa died in ww2 for freedom to get shot
See>>51579352
>>51581080
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>51581083
His name was Syed Farook.
>>51581106
> has never heard of Chechnya
>>51581122
Source? Haven't seen any name or specific weapon models in reports yet.
>>51581083
>news describes ME woman, "latino"(aka ME and they got confused 'cause arr rook same), and semiblack named Saeed Farooq
Can we stop looking for excuses to blame whitey and just enjoy the fact that LA matters again?
Pls someone take me, I am white, have an education, and will learn your language
>>51581146
I'm watching the news now and they said there was an AR-15 involved. Not sure how they know.
>>51581149
The media is so scared to step back from their "single, angry white supremacist shooter" narrative right now
>>51579665
your mum uses my long gun
>>51581146
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/02/police-id-suspect-in-san-bernardino-massacre-as-syed-farook.html
>>51579770
Also there are plenty if countries with civil liberties that don't have to "pay" for it with daily massacres. Somethint special about merica?
Police just announced the suspects they are looking for are named Sayeed Farook and his brother. Looks like a terrorist attack.
>>51581181
Gail Weathers promising hand jobs for information.
>>51581161
Try Mexico, you can just walk in
any word on the 3 faggot killers? 3 muslims? whitey?
>>51581209
I don't think all my liberal friends on fb can handle this after going on about evil white men all afternoon.
>>51581209
>Looks like a terrorist attack.
And this is why you people are fucking ridiculous.
>>51581125
But you realise how huge Russia is do you not?
>>51581259
Moderate extremists
>>51581282
It's very likely that it was terrorism. These were coordinated attacks and they were dressed in military-style clothing.
>>51581282
Everyone wants to call everything a terrorist attack now.
>>51581208
Yes there is...faggots like you let in terrorist.
Liberal millennials must burn
>>51581285
You realize how stupid you sound, right? There are vastly more Muslims and radical Muslims in Russia than in Germany.
>>51581282
I don't get it -- you're saying a three-person rampage killer team including a woman is more likely than ideologically motivated terrorists?
>>51581319
He's stuck in PC land. Ignore him.
>>51581282
>A well-planned attack by someone whose muslim
Oh fuck off with your PC bullshit.
>>51581310
Are you the same poster who ad homenims in every response? Real classy bro.
>>51581307
>guy was brown and had a paki name
>terrorist attack confirmed
That's my point.
If a bunch of Norteños bust into a Police Department and shoot the whole place, is it a terrorist attack?
>durr the goal is to TERRORIZE
A bunch of crazy wetbacks is pretty fucking terrifying. And so was the North Hollywood shootout.
That's my point.
>>51581345
Kill yourself kid.
>>51581110
No, it's more like that every liberty we enjoy comes with risks and costs.
>every news channel is blaming this 'massacre' on guns again, not the people doing them
>>51581359
>If a bunch of Norteños bust into a Police Department and shoot the whole place, is it a terrorist attack?
Yes. Why wouldn't it be?
>>51581399
>Why wouldn't it be?
The mass medias wouldn't call it a ''terrorist attack''.
>>51581399
The US should outlaw illegal guns. It's about time.
>>51581359
I'm as liberal as you get but I'm not as delusional as you to think that a coordinated attack by 3 people who happen to be Muslim is probably an act of terrorism rather than a three person shooting spree. Get fucked you delusional faggot. Sorry if I hurt your sensitivities by calling a spade a fucking spade.
Well considering there is a apparently a house undergoing a bomb investigation 5 minutes from mine I guess it makes me feel like tomorrow's bike ride'll be slightly more interesting.
>>51581359
When I say everything, people want all mass shootings by white people to be called terrorist attacks as well. Most of these shootings, regardless of the shooter's skin color, don't meet the criteria for a terrorist attack
>>51578527
BAD.
IT MAKES ME FEEL BAD
>>51581423
Yes, we should outlaw illegal guns.
>>51581423
>>51581498
You guys might be onto something.
>>51581359
How many dildos do you have in your ass right now?
>>51581434
Everything is coordinated. Open a book. Columbine was coordinated, they had pipebombs and a propane canister. The holocaust was coordinated. ''Coordinated'' is a buzzword to say that one guy told the two others to go here and there.
>>51581453
I don't share that point of view.
>>51581553
How many times have you been targeted by Obama's drones? What have you been doing when the ATF was confiscating guns during Katrina? What have you been doing when SWAT teams were raping your civil rights by entering and searching your homes after the Boston bombing?
>>51581635
Americans are keked by the gun jew. To an american, a gun is the ultimate symbol of liberty. As long as they have guns, they are free. It is a painful delusion
>>51581635
If you specifically target another cultural/ethnic/political group for political/ideological/religious reasons, you're a terrorist.
Breivik was a terrorist. School-shooters mostly just want to kill random people.
>>51581789
>normies
>not a cultural group
>not deserving of death
RREEEEEEEE
Seriously though, it's terrorism if it is associated with a broader political movement and pushing an agenda
>>51581750
They aren't as free as they think.
>>51581789
I don't recall Breivik being classified as a terrorist.
>>51581866
By who? It's certainly classified as that here.
>>51581866
>I don't recall Breivik being classified as a terrorist.
What fucking planet do you live on?
>>51581934
>>51581948
By any mainstream north american media. He was called a ''cold blooded mentally ill'' murderer at best, yet I think it was proven that he wasn't so mentally ill.
>>51578527
it's horrible, worst day in my life
>>51581989
That's kinda funny. The first court-psychiatrists (my mom is in the field - they were well respected before this) labeled him paranoid schizophrenic.
That just wasn't politically or publicly acceptable, so they were fired and a new pair of psychiatrists were hired to get a second opinion.
Why do people like guns so much? Threaten to try to regulate guns more and everybody flips a shit.
The only reason gun laws are so lax is because the NRA can afford to make campaign """""""""""""""""""""""""donations""""""""""""""""""(bribes) to politicians so they have half the government bought.
You can make the self defense argument but why not just own a pistol? Why do you need a submachine gun for self defense?
>gun control is inherently a left-wing issue
>there is a monolithic "left-wing" that is represented by random retards on tumblr
>democrats are left-wing
What are YOUR favorite /pol/ memes?
>>51582319
Also I'm adding that the 2nd amendment says
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
That's an outdated law that was meant to empower the citizens to be able to form a militia and overthrow a tyrannic government. It doesn't mean that you should be able to go to walmart and get an AR-15 so you can "hunt"
>>51582209
So was he? I think he was, but I read an article saying he was completely sane, but I fail to understand how someone doing such a thing can be sane.
Still, if he is labeled as being not mentally sane, he'll probably be acquitted for being mentally troubled, which is a doubled-edged sword.
>>51582319
Because it's a constitutional right.
>You can make the self defense argument but why not just own a pistol?
A pistol is absolutely enough.
>Why do you need a submachine gun for self defense?
Because it's your constitutional right, and because it's fun, of course.
>>51582350
They don't understand anything unless it's black and white.
>>51582400
How many people buy an AR-15 at Wal-Mart and go on a killing spree with it?
>>51582402
It isn't supposed to be your constitutional right. It's been misinterpreted to mean "its your constitutional right to have no restrictions on weapons" it means you have the right to use firearms to form a well regulated militia
see>>51582400
>>51582319
>The only reason gun laws are so lax is because the NRA can afford to make campaign """""""""""""""""""""""""donations""""""""""""""""""(bribes) to politicians so they have half the government bought
You're saying that like gun rights aren't widely supported in America.
Hell the only reason the Democrats don't dominate most elections is because of gun rights. Alot of liberals that own guns just don't vote for anybody because of that (me being one of them).
>>51582402
Can't use a pistol to overthrow a tyrannical government, son.
>muh locke and mills
>muh constitution
Americans are seriously stuck several hundred years in the past
>>51582492
You can use a pistol to shoot down a drone.
>>51582453
District of Columbia vs Heller says you're full of shit.
>>51582492
How many years did it take to upload your post?
>>51582463
Gun rights are widely supported in the sense that most people think that a sane adult should be able to own certain firearms.
>>51582447
Thats not the point. The point is that most guns used for these sprees are bought legally. Its too easy for someone with bad intent to acquire a gun. You should have to go through a gun safety course and state your intent for buying the gun. Check off 'hunting' and you are limited to guns used for hunting. No more ak-47s justified for "hunting." Theres no need for a civilian to have an ak-47 for an reason.
>>51582560
Most support for stricter gun rights pertains to stricter background checks. The majority of people don't want there to be less guns actually available.
>>51582602
>The point is that most guns used for these sprees are bought legally.
Are they?
>Its too easy for someone with bad intent to acquire a gun.
How do you propose we stop it?
>You should have to go through a gun safety course and state your intent for buying the gun.
I agree with the former, the latter is a bit iffy.
>Check off 'hunting' and you are limited to guns used for hunting. No more ak-47s justified for "hunting." Theres no need for a civilian to have an ak-47 for an reason.
How many civilians are using legally acquired AK47s in these shooting sprees?
>>51578527
>mass shooting
That's a wierd way to spell Islamic terrorist attack.
>>51582607
>Most support for stricter gun rights pertains to stricter background checks.
Stricted background checks?
One step away from Soviet Russia.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
TREE OF LIBERTY!
>>51582548
district of columbia vs heller ended with this result
'a 5-4 decision that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution applies to federal enclaves and protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home"
I don't see how that means I'm full of shit. Sure you can have a pistol or shotgun to defend your house if you really think thats necessary. But a machine gun? Because you're an "enthusiast?" Thats not what the founding fathers intended
>americans going full damage control
sorry, but like you, your defenses are full of holes.
>>51582687
Specifically.
>(1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
> a) The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 2–22.
>(b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation of the operative clause. The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved. Pp. 22–28.
>(c) The Court’s interpretation is confirmed by analogous arms-bearing rights in state constitutions that preceded and immediately followed the Second Amendment. Pp. 28–30.
> (d) The Second Amendment’s drafting history, while of dubious interpretive worth, reveals three state Second Amendment proposals that unequivocally referred to an individual right to bear arms. Pp. 30–32.
>(e) Interpretation of the Second Amendment by scholars, courts and legislators, from immediately after its ratification through the late 19th century also supports the Court’s conclusion. Pp. 32–47.
The part about the militia doesn't actually mean anything.
>>51579352
>be croatian
>stay poor
youre among those countries that own worthless passports. you enjoy making fun of us, but if the US was retarded enough to open its borders, you would be the first one to fly here.
>>51582643
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html
This answers your first question and 4th question
The third thing you quoted me for answers your second question.
Any word on if the shooters were middle eastern or not?
or maybe why the fuck they chose a help center for autists as a target?
>>51578527
getting shot is like getting bitten by a mosquito, it only bothers you if you keep thinking about it
i would rather walk outside with a 10% chance of getting shot every day than have 70% of my population replaced by Muhammadans to be sincere brothers
>>51582734
Thanks m8, but talk to me when you stop locking up old ladies for keeping their husband's war trophies.
It's a bit like a Stalinist defending UHC or worker's rights.
>>51582761
The two males have been confirmed to be middle eastern.
No word on the woman I think.
And just to fuck with people presumably.
>>51582402
Who knows beyond the professionals who followed home closely? The whole episode ruined the reputation of psychiatry in the country.
I think the argument was that the first pair didn't understand the political concepts he was talking about, didn't know enough about internet and gaming and thereby didn't understand his motivation or what he was talking about. They though he made most of it up in a psychosis or something.
>>51582779
>comparing one overblown incident to a mass shooting every day
>>51578527
What happened?
>>51582828
I'm all for some sensible gun regulations, I just really, really, REALLY don't need Brits or Aussies on my side for this one. No offense, but my emphasis here is on "sensible"
>>51582829
3 people shot up some home for the mentally ill
killed 17
wounded 14
Another day in the 3rd world shithole of America
>>51579352
good banter i like it
>>51582802
I heard "Arabic female" about 30 times on the police scanner.
Yup folks, it's sandpeople. Has been the whole time.
>>51582853
Sorry but Americans can't be "sensible" it's just not in your animalistic nature.
Don't get too upset here, we don't want you to shoot up another school.
>>51582743
Alright I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to have a gun for yourself. I'm trying to say that you don't need machine guns to protect yourself, you don't need them for hunting, and you shouldn't be allowed to have one just because you like guns. We can allow people to have guns, it should just be regulated.
Take driving, for instance. When I wanted to get my license, I had to take a 30 hour class on driving, then drive with an instructor for 8 hours on public roads. Then I had to have a parent in my car with me while I drove for 6 months until I could get my full license and drive by myself. This is how we should treat guns. Like they are dangerous tools and should only be used when absolutely necessary
>>51582761
yea the shooters are arab
>>51582829
>>51582855
Or you know, what actually happened was a fucking Islamic terrorist attack. Probably by ISIS.
>>51582829
Two men (I think brothers?) and a woman shot up a center for the disabled.
One of the men and the woman took off in a car throwing pipe bombs, both ended up shot. The other guy is in custody.
And yes they're kebab.
>Sandpeople attack France
>128 dead
>Sandpeople attack the US
>14 dead
>>51582860
B-But t-the stoned African-American gentlemen said he was a white dude??
>>51582855
>>51582898
Wew, fucking Muslims mate. We arrested some Muzzies that were planning on blowing up some shit in the UK today to.
>>51582916
>France
there's your problem
>>51582916
You'll be sure to make up the count with soon anyway
>>51582916
And when it happens to us there's no sympathy, just a bunch of yuropoors trying to frame it as if it's a gun problem and not the kebab problem that obviously exists everywhere.
>>51582886
Alri la, didn't mean to hurt the feelings.
It's just that you can have gun control without, and pardon my French here, "going full UK" about it.
>>51582917
Blacks think everyone who isn't black is white.
Also the average black is literally legally retarded even when they aren't stoned.
>>51582916
To be fair, European nations have alot of catching up to do to us.
>>51578725
I drove from AZ to CA with a gun in my car once. When I drove through the aperture science material emancipation grid, the gun disintegrated and my car caught fire.
>>51582492
>being this retarded
>>51582976
It was hilarious that she chose him for a live interview, though.
I think their video even proved he was the one driving the car as well.
>>51579336
You've never lived overseas, have you?
>>51582947
You have my sympathy burgers, for what it's worth.
Western civilization is in this together, and has been for the last 1300 years or so.
I wonder how mad this will make your BLM-crowd, though.
Don't fund isis then?
So apparently according to a neighbor there were ~5 men in their garage last night and they received alot of packages lately. So there might still be more out there.
>>51578527
Why should we care what the Americans do with their guns? Being armed religious zealots are what America's about! muh Freedom Fries!
We look at it and think they're nuts, but guns are culturally important to them. Taking away their guns is tantamount to castration; since it takes away what little power they're allowed.
The real problem is so many of them are just poorly socialized. Availability of weaponry just adds fuel to the flame.
Kill all Muslims
>>51583240
we absolutely fund ISIS there is no doubt about it. any american that doesn't know that by now is a complete retard. our foreign policy has just been ridiculous since WWII. but there's nothing we can do about it. you either vote for a democrat or republican and both have the same foreign policy. we're fucked.
>>51583857
This
>>51583613
>the real problem is so many of them are just poorly socialized
>says the person on 4chan
wew la
>>51583909
Not only did we fun ISIS but everything we did in middle east really created ISIS. Think about it if we left that region alone ISIS wouldn't exist. I don't like being American.
>>51583857
THIS
>>51583977
I meant to say Fund not fun
>>51583977
i know. its embarrassing that i find myself supporting a shithole like russia over my own country.
