Montenegro has been invited to join NATO.
Thoughts?
anime
Another leech and paychecks for the people who run NATO's expansion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/12/02/us-nato-montenegro-idUSKBN0TL0J620151202
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/324312-west-russia-nato-montenegro/
>>51563784
Why? They have no strategic use what so ever
>MY TEA, NIGGER !
>>51563784
serbia next
>>51563784
How could they help to stop Vlad's boogaloo?
>>51564022
That's what you think.
>>51564101
>>51564236
BASED
FRANCE
>>51563784
I heard there are mass protests right now
>>51563784
Good. Serb shits and russians blown the fuck out.
>>51564236
Any thing that you need from montenegro you can get a few km down in greece
>>51564293
Literally America jr right on your border.
>>51563784
We should make a European defense alliance tbqh without Britain, USA and Canada
>>51564820
Agree 100%
USSR doesn't exist anymore, why bother expanding NATO? It is provocation and to me it doesn't make sense. Aren't we trying to co-operate with Russia in Syria now?
>>51564236
God bless America.
>>51563784
I know nothing about them.
>>51565003
Backwards politicians think the cold war is still going on and continually oppose Russia and China rather than trying to deal with the real threat
THE TRAITORS WILL PERISH
literally american imperialism
But 95% of americans had never heard of that country right now
>>51565330
>5% have
You are being incredibly generous to Americans
losing a plane is something but this will make yellow bastard putin really mad rofl
>>51564820
Yeah it would be called Warsaw Pact 2
Montenegro is a corrupt mafia-state. The governing class will do whatever lines their pockets with the most money, even if the people they govern disapprove of the decisions they make. Montenegrins, for the most part, want nothing to do with NATO. There are full-scale protests and their is a possibility for a coup d'etat (though that is unlikely from what I gather).
I see it as unnecessary expansionism in the Balkans that serves no purpose but; deteriorating relations with Russia even further, contributing to instability in the region, and humiliating Serbs.
>>51565431
>yellow
>bastard
pls elaborate
>>51565480
Not a bad idea tbqh
No commonwealth allowed
>>51565127
What would the real threat be?
>>51563784
>NATO is making a wall around Serbia
Lmao
>>51565578
Dirty muslims obviously bulgar bro
>>51565578
Zetans
>>51564236
based south cone
anti kek league
>>51565636
Let's be real, terrorists will NEVER, be a real threat.
They kill few in a spectacular manner and make the news,
but in the great scheme of things they don't effect countries.
>>51564820
INTERMARIUM
>>51565811
>boasting about not being part of the great game v2.0
>>51565824
Not terrorists, muslims and their culture as they flood into Europe
>>51564820
>We should make a European defense alliance tbqh without Britain, USA and Canada
So you mean France and... France ? Because I don't see any other country in EU with a real military force actually. Maybe Italy.
>>51565973
You had a "real" force before WW2 too and what happened?
A country with no force like Poland defended itself against three countries as long as you did against one.
>>51566025
>three countries
Two ?
And we fought against Germans and Italians, but of course "huuuur they're Italians, it doesn't count xd"
>>51566351
Czehoslovakia, Germany (western, northern), Russia.
Italians are shit. There is no point in denying it.
>>51566351
They're Italians, it doesn't count.
>>51566430
huuuuur xd
>>51564820
>We should make a European defense alliance
Your economic alliance should serve as an illustrative example of why that would be a bad idea.
>>51566430
LE
HURR
>>51566025
Yeah, cool story but how about open a history book ?
Also Georgia with its poland tier military force standed 2 day against a bunch of Russian in 2008 and Ukraine lost Crimea and east of its country against rebels ans Russian mercenaries.
Your point ?
>>51566565
>Your point ?
You're shit since the fall of Napoleon.
>>51566663
Well meme'd but doesn't it change the fact we are the only country beside UK to have a real military force in europe ? I don't think so.
>>51566663
Oh, come on, m8
Since the end of WWI*
>>51563784
Who cares?
Montenegro doesn't offer anything to us, and can't threaten Russia, so I don't see what the fuss is about.
It's military is shit and the location is irrelevant.
pic related is the whole military. Not a part of it; it's the *whole thing*. Just under 2000 people Fucking nothing.
>>51567031
>Implying countries get invited into NATO for no good reason
>>51567146
Sure, it's always nice to have more allies, but in the case of Montenegro, it's not that big a deal.
They're irrelevant.
If Kiribati were invited to join NATO, Putin would also be having an aneurysm.
>>51566830
No one gives a shit about Europe.
The future war will be on Pacific.
>>51565973
>implying anybody in Europe has anything other than a bonsai military
>implying Europoors haven't buttressed their social welfare state spending knowing they don't have to spend it on defence since the US is protecting them
This describes Canada, too, but I'm not shitting up the board, grenouille.
>hurr what does it offer?! i dun ged it!11!!
>US will rue the day!11
Literally turning the Russian zone of influence against Russia using Russia's own actions.
>>51563784
Why the fuck would they? They got bombed by NATO just the same as Serbia.
>>51563784
Who tricked them into it?
>>51567948
When something Russia doesn't like politically happens to a country in it's zone of influence, and parts of that country start getting illegally occupied and annexed, It makes a lot of other little countries that are also in that sphere of influence very nervous.
And they start to consider things like joining an anti-Russian military alliance.
And it's our way of retaliating to the constant barrage of threats from them.
"You better not do this! This is a serious provocation!"
"You don't want to harm our relations, do you? Then obey!"
No.
Your zone of influence just got smaller.
And not only is it smaller, It's now working against you.
Now, go show them how brotherly you are and fund an insurgency that kills its own people and tears the country in half.
>>51563784
President of Montenegro is ruling only because of albanian and muslim votes. Expect this invitation will speed up the overthrow process of Milo Djukanovic.
>>51568459
Thank you, based ally.
why don't they just hold a referendum if there is so much opposition
If given the choice, why the fuck would someone choose Russia over us? They'd be stupid not to join.
>>51569025
Hopefully, it's a violent overthrow.
Hopefully, It has something to do with "ethnic Russians" being "protected" or something.
Because that's the type of shit that leads to more NATO members.
>>51569222
>If given the choice, why the fuck would someone choose Russia over us?
Because outside of your media propaganda, your gov is actually working with Russia.
what's a montenegro
>>51567794
>Literally turning the Russian zone of influence against Russia using Russia's own actions.
When has the Russian state in its current incarnation pulled something like this on NATO (i.e., pulling a pro-Western military neutral from our sphere of influence)? The equivalent to this move would be Russia expanding the Customs Union into Finland, which has not--and most likely will not--happen. Regardless, you fail to address how poaching another country from Russia's sphere of influence (deteriorating relations between our countries even further and increasing the possibility of war) provides tangible benefits for the United States.
>>51569222
maybe because you bombed the shit out of them like 20 years ago?
>>51569288
A strategic US military installation in the Balkans.
>>51563918
that map implies that Bosnia has any real sea access . It's more like this
>>51563784
Another battlefield joins us fighting gommunism. Feels good m8.
>>51568459
Your points are moot because:
A. Most Montenegrins are pro-Russian, but are ruled by an out-of-touch elite (the current president panders to the Albanian minority in the country).
B. Your reference to Ukraine is weak, seeing as the borders of the country were not drawn along religious and ethno-linguistic lines--which is the source of most of the country's problems (Galicians should get self-determination and "freedom", but the Russians and Orthodox Ukies in the east should not?)
C. You keep making vague references to "retaliation", please provide examples of the Russian Federation poaching countries from our sphere of influence and getting them to join a pro-Russian/anti-American military alliance.
>>51569262
this has nothing to do with ethnic russians you idiot
>>51565919
They wouldn't be infecting Europe if west Europe's leaders weren't super kucks.
>>51564453
for two euros or a sandwich
>>51569781
Oh it will.
If not Russians, Serbians.
Useless, but it will create a lot of Russian and Serb butthurt, so it's worth it.
who?
>>51570096
says texas lmao
>>51569350
Montenegro was mostly spared bombing. Although that's like saying you got a few slaps instead of getting thoroughly beaten.
>>51563784
Why would anyone want to join NATO?
>>51567031
If the other posters were right and Muntenegro was in its sfere of influence then NATO has just denied Moscow any chance of setting up a base in the Adriatic,unless Albania goes all russiaboo,which it might since it's a corrupt mob ran state but Russia can't match the american bribery lobby. It's a tit-for tat with Crimea,which is now under complete Russian control.
>>51564820
That's retarded. USA and Britain has done more for Norway than most of our european "friends".
>>51569288
it translates as The mountain of Niggers. But it's butifel,they shot Casino Royale over there.
>>51572819
It translates as Black Mountain (because it was a graveyard for Turks), and Casino Royale was not shot there (seriously, I have no idea why they put the setting in Montenegro if you ain't going to shoot it in fucking Montenegro at all).
>>51569025
Maybe. But more likely is about money;
>"Eh, mountainigger, enter le NATO and be a goyim of the "west" and you'll get 5dollars and 3 starbucks. Your elites, quite a bit more. Don't do, and you're a fugged shitole :-DDDDDDDDDDD"