How do frogs feel about the fact that the greatest person who ever lived actually hated the french?
>"As the nation was perishing I was born. Thirty thousand Frenchmen were vomited on to our shores, drowning the throne of liberty in waves of blood. Such was the odious sight which was the first to strike me."
At the very beginning of his life, yes he did
He quickly changed his mind though
>>51513370
He never ever learnt how to spell French properly
>>51513407
He had an accent, that's true, but absolutely everyone had an accent back then. "Standardized" French only came under the IIIrd Republic
>>51513407
Bullshit
make jokes about his height or prenis size if you care so much about your british master's attention
But Louis XIV loved France
>>51513407
>never ever
Of course he did, later in his life and even if he had a hard time spelling it he spoke it with great style. He had a strong accent thoug but pretty much everyone did back then.
"Soldats, du sommet de ces pyramides, quarante siècles vous contemplent !"
>>51513476
That's true though, some French marshals mocked him about his accent, but see : >>51513464
Also this >>51513514
>>51513514
>Louis
Shitposting aside I love that guy but his expensive wars kind of caused the revolution later on, coupled with incompetent successors
>>51513539
>>51513476
>>51513464
>>51513560
Of course he had an accent. He's talking about writing. He studied for years in France in a military academy, he could write french properly.
>>51513156
He adopted France, and France adopted him. Your quote is taken from a very early part in his life where he was a Corsican nationalist. He pretty much renounced that when he and his family were forced off the island by his rival's patriotic militia.
>>51513579
>coupled with incompetent successors
Louis XV was not "incompetent", he was just immensely conceited
Louis XVI was more unprepared than "incompetent"
>>51513579
Louis XV was competent, he was a pretty good king. Though his own wars damaged the kingdom's finances even more. Louis XVI wasn't really incompetent either, just at this point France was basically forced to bankroute. Terrible weather and social unrest did the rest
>>51513736
>>51513773
A competent leader would have been able to put down a rebellion ;^)
>>51513837
"It's not a rebellion Sire. It's a revolution"
Anyway glad to educate your lowlife ass
>>51513837
Actually he was such a good leader that he decided to not shot his own people. That's what I call a great leader.
>rebellion
Louis XVI : "Mais, c'est une révolte ?"
Larochefoucauld : "Non Sire, c'est une révolution."
>>51513156
Richelieu or Louis XIV loved France i think.
>>51513773
>>51513736
Also how can you see XV as competent? He was a bitch that gave up land to Britain and Austrian and in return he gave you Lorraine, if not for taking Corsica (which allowed you to take Napoleon from Italy) he would have been completely awful
>>51513994
>He was a bitch that gave up land to Britain and Austrian
You have such a simplistic vision of history
>>51514067
Considering he did nothing but lost wars and lands, I don't see how he could be seen differently
>>51513711
It also further ignores that up until the point at which the French Army occupied Corsica, Napoleon was decidedly pro-French and pro-revolution. Perhaps even leaning towards pro-Jacobin. For example he inaugurated a Patriots Club in Late August 1789 and founded the Globo Patriottico, a revolutionary political club in Ajaccio modelled after those established in Paris, on January 6 1791.
Napoleon, even during his Corsican nationalist days, wasn't really anti-French. He just disliked the commander because he kept blocking his election as adjutant, with the rank of lieutenant-colonel, in the 2nd Battalion of the Corsican National Guard. Thus as a matter of circumstance more than of principle Napoleon aligned himself with Paoli because he envisioned that would be the avenue through which he could rise fastest and highest. Which would be difficult in the Corsican regiment because of his existing commitments to his artillery command in Valence. So once again Napoleon was never anti-French, he was just (as ever) pro-Bonaparte.
>>51513972
He would have stayed king if he didn't go full retard and tried to escape
He was still very popular at the time, all he had to do was to stop vetoing every parliament decision
What do you think of this guy?
>>51514187
He loves heads...!
>>51514186
The death of the Dauphin deeply affected him, thus he fucked up with the Etats Généraux.
His flight was quite understandable though
>>51514187
One of the greatest man who ever lived, absolutely brilliant.
>>51514187
L'Incorruptible n'a rien fait de mal.
Being very uneducated on France, can someone explain to me why Napoleon was popular after the coronation? I thought the whole point of the revolution was to establish a republic but now he was re-establishing the monarchy?
>>51514187
Robespierre did nothing wrong
>>51514466
Also, do Historians, and history in general, in France look more kindly upon the Revolutionaries or the Monarchs/people who put them down eventually?
>>51514466
>the whole point of the revolution was to establish a republic
>>51514187
Absolutely based but his image was tainted by Heinous propaganda from Danton and his minions.
>>51514466
Napoleon wasn't a monarch, he was an emperor. He was a symbol of the revolution and the only way they'd stop the coalitions from shoving a monarch back on them.
Also the French are fickle and like to be important.
WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN?
>>51514618
>Napoleon wasn't a monarch, he was an emperor
Emperors are monarchs. And Napoléon didn't represent the revolution, even though he embraced its ideals. On the contrary, people were glad to have stability brought back, which revolutionary france didn't offer.
>Also the French are fickle and like to be important.
hurr durr
>>51514466
>why Napoleon was popular after the coronation?
That's pretty simple, people were completely tired of the instability of the Directoire.
Also see this : >>51514535
>>51514529
It really depends on the historians
But generally good historians try to understand both positions
>>51514466
The people valued stability and order after years of terror, unsuccessful war and worst of all: hyperinflation. Napoleon was also a master propagandist and styled himself as a defender of Republican values and of the Constitution (in practice he had the powers of an absolute monarch, although he never fully chose to exercise them). He used plebiscites and played politics with the legislature to justify his ascension. But from everything we can tell he was actually wildly popular, mainly because he was an outstanding reformer and administrator and won glory for France on the battlefield.
>>51514466
He was like Caesar in this regard, he needed to be in absolute power in order to restore the republic
>>51514466
>the whole point of the revolution was to establish a republic
That never was the point of the revolution
The point was to make laws fairer and most of all to give the people food.
Génocide des Thermidoriens quand ?
>>51514187
Why were all the revolutionaries so ugly?
>>51514529
In hard times, the French want a strong leader.
Napoléon basically put an end to the Revolutionary wars. The Revolution happened in 1789, Napoléon became Emperor in 1805, in the meantime hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of French died because of famine (caused by disorganization and continental embargo), civil war and the constant war against foreign monarchies.
>>51514926
>Millions
Not sure about that, France was the second most populous country in Europe, perhaps even first at its zenith
>>51513514
>This is considering a boy in France
Anglos will never stop to be obsessed with us.
What a traumatised people, we raped you good.
>>51514890
Get this hothead outta here.
>>51515176
I wish I was French desu, I don't think I'll stop shitposting until I get fluent and move there
Napoleon "If he's Anglo he's got to go" Bonaparte is my king
>>51515310
>>51515080
And under this guy, Europe was our bitch...
>>51514187
An example for all citizens ! He's the inventor of our motto.
>>51514186
He would have staed king if he wasn't criminaly dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzI8J0Y9IJE
>>51515219
C'est un grand gars.
>>51513370
>quickly changed his mind
He was anti-French until at least well into his 20s, and didn't really start liking France organically, but rather because it was his only safe haven after being expelled from Corsica.
>>51514799
It was not even the point for the majority of Convention at the beginning.
